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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On November 28 2014 07:00 ptbl wrote: Juding from Snute's twitter, he seems to not mind getting knock out of the tournament. He lost his passion? I heard on BasetradeTV (don't know how true this is) that Snute has scaled down his practice recently, in favor of idk anymore. | ||
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On November 28 2014 06:53 TotalBiscuit wrote: Again the same fallacy. The GSL format is a bracket. Mapscore does not matter. What matters is you win two series. It's entirely in your control. Yes you can argue that if you want to advance out of a round robin you shouldn't lose any maps, but your success or failure is to some degree determined by how well other people in the group do, it's outside of your control. Brackets, especially double-elim are inherently about the fairest you can get and that's why the GSL group format is so widely used. There is no perfect format but to say we should just accept any format because none of them are 100% fair is a fallacy. This format sucks. You win against people, that aren't comparable to eachother. Put two average koreans, avilo and Zest in a group and look what happens: Winners and losers match are pre-determined, only match 1 and the final match count. Except that match 1 isn't worth shit and everything depends on the final match because hey, the other guy defeated avilo, while you lost to Zest and defeated him, so he is clearly as good as you and deserves an equal chance, right? GSL system is horrible Brackets are far from the fairest you can get. They are built to determine the single best player (who wins the group in both formats). Chess has moved away from brackets for hunderts of years now, because they are awful. Or do you think Chalifman/Kazmidshanov/Ponomarjow were worthy "world champions"? And yes, I know, chess=/=SC2, but both are things you do 1v1 and need a format to determine the better player, there is no difference in judging the format. | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On November 28 2014 07:00 ptbl wrote: Juding from Snute's twitter, he seems to not mind getting knock out of the tournament. He lost his passion? Ya win some ya lose some. He said he was out of practice so he's probably pleased and now he doesn't have to worry for the rest of the weekend and can think about San Jose. | ||
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Keeemy
Finland7855 Posts
On November 28 2014 07:00 ptbl wrote: Juding from Snute's twitter, he seems to not mind getting knock out of the tournament. He lost his passion? Flawless logic | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On November 28 2014 07:02 Xoronius wrote: You win against people, that aren't comparable to eachother. Put two average koreans, avilo and Zest in a group and look what happens: Winners and losers match are pre-determined, only match 1 and the final match count. Except that match 1 isn't worth shit and everything depends on the final match because hey, the other guy defeated avilo, while you lost to Zest and defeated him, so he is clearly as good as you and deserves an equal chance, right? GSL system is horrible Brackets are far from the fairest you can get. They are built to determine the single best player (who wins the group in both formats). Chess has moved away from brackets for hunderts of years now, because they are awful. Or do you think Chalifman/Kazmidshanov/Ponomarjow were worthy "world champions"? And yes, I know, chess=/=SC2, but both are things you do 1v1 and need a format to determine the better player, there is no difference in judging the format. For terrible brackets, I refer you to Blizzcon -_- | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On November 28 2014 07:03 KingofdaHipHop wrote: The real thing that we should be angry about is that they're not telling us the bracket. Brackets are on Liquipedia | ||
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kaykoose
United States2302 Posts
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Swede
New Zealand853 Posts
On November 28 2014 06:57 TotalBiscuit wrote: If this was GSL format Impact would already be through in first place after winning two matchs in a row. Whatever. People in LR think they know best as usual. They'd feel differently if they just saw a stack of money go up in smoke over a stupid format. The fact that you just lost a stack of money literally makes you less qualified to comment on the format, at least while you're upset. It's a conflict of interest. | ||
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GoloSC2
710 Posts
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plotspot
800 Posts
On November 28 2014 07:00 ptbl wrote: Juding from Snute's twitter, he seems to not mind getting knock out of the tournament. He lost his passion? No I think it's just Snute being Snute. I think he is a very agreeable person. He lost pretty badly in HSC but when I saw him on the couch and doing commentary he was just very emotionally solidified and professional. Just like Polt said, I may like him for the same reason. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
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Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
On November 28 2014 07:02 SC2Toastie wrote: I heard on BasetradeTV (don't know how true this is) that Snute has scaled down his practice recently, in favor of idk anymore. Yeah, he pushed himself pretty card in the attempted Blizzcon rush, so he's trying to give his wrists less of a stress test. | ||
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Keeemy
Finland7855 Posts
Ez bracket for Life. Ez tournament win. | ||
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
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