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TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
November 28 2014 08:31 GMT
#2341
Isn't it more like a hobby investment for TB because there isn't that much money to grab anyway.
Science>Mechanics
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
November 28 2014 09:09 GMT
#2342
On November 28 2014 08:00 SatedSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 07:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 28 2014 07:49 Xoronius wrote:
On November 28 2014 07:44 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 28 2014 07:18 sigm wrote:
You know, TB, bottom line is that Impact just didn't cut it. I don't know whether it was a lack of preparation, or a lack of skill, but the simple fact is that he wasn't good enough to get out of the group. You can blame the format, the tournament, the weather, whatever you want, but that doesn't change that simple fact. I understand that you're angry and emotional about this, having invested money and received nothing for it, but you're not stupid, and you knew the risks beforehand. You knew what the format would be, as this isn't the first time it was used. You knew the kind of players that Impact would be going up against. At least, I assume you knew all that, since it was all common knowledge. You took the risk because you thought that Impact would be good enough to get through, despite the opposition and the format. If you really had thought that the format would make it impossible or highly unlikely for Impact to get through, I bet you wouldn't have put your money behind him, as like I said, I don't think you're stupid. The way you feel about this whole thing now is understandable, but you don't have to be an asshole about it and tell people to fuck off because you don't agree with them. That just makes you seem like a complete jackass.


I really don't give a shit about how you feel. You have no investment in any of these results, you can easily say whatever you like without any consequence.

Impact played like a moron against Snute in a ZvZ. Unfortunate, since Snute was arguably the worst player in the group. Had he not played like a moron certainly things would have turned out differently, but frankly since everyone in the group went 2-2 I find it laughable that you think any player was "good enough" more than any other, since they all scored the damn same.

You don't care. You're arguing for the sake of it. You have no investment. I have a reason to care. It's that simple. As far as I'm concerned Dreamhacks format sucks. The evidence presented is the fact that nobody else uses it, round-robin is largely abandoned in any form for major events and the GSL dual-tournament format is standard across the board for most events including WCS. That on its own is strong enough evidence to suggest that maybe Dreamhacks format is junk and that's before this ridiculous 5 people got the same series score result.

Your evidence can be turned around so easily though by saying, that noone outside of esports uses GSL system. Brackets have mostly died out in chess, becuase they are simply bad at determining all positions by skill. Just out of curiosity, what would you think about having a tournament trying out swiss system for a smaller event?

The format of other sports is irrelevant to Starcraft 2.

Clearly GOM are better at organising tournaments in a such a way as to determine the skill level of the participants than long-standing bodies like FIFA and FIDE...

Somehow I don't think that's true.

EDIT:

I don't even think round-robin is better; both formats are pretty even in that they're both flawed. Tournaments can pick whatever they want, I'll be happy as long as the games are good.


FIFA? They want the money and a GSL-Format-Tournament means 1 less game every group. Not something FIFA wants for sure xD
Hassan_RO
Profile Joined May 2012
Romania77 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-28 09:15:24
November 28 2014 09:10 GMT
#2343
Anyway, leaving the whole TB discussion aside, i will join the hypetrain here and say that i'm also rooting for LIFE!
GOGOGO Lifeuuuuuuhhhhhhhh make this the best year of your career, you can do it!

EDIT: Talking about FIFA as a good example at naming and organizing tournaments, after the whole Russia 2018 / Qatar 2022 bullcrap is just.....well dumb. I really cant wait until Russia 2018 and all the pictures start flowing in (hello #sochitoilet, #sochihotels #sochiroads) from the "finished" streets, hotels, stadiums etc.........
And just look at what they pulled off this year in Brazil...people fking rioted against it for weeks and months, a country without proper hospitals spent billions on stadiums, and the world cup was held with the army in the streets!

FIFA is good at two things, taking huge bribes and keeping 80-90 yr old men in charge.
"Long live the EMPEROR" Lim Yo Hwan!
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
November 28 2014 12:42 GMT
#2344
how did someone hack legend? That was wierd!
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-29 14:31:01
November 29 2014 14:23 GMT
#2345
It's weird how much PuMa dropped in relative skill in a short period of time.

Oops day 1 thread, sorry
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