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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 30 2014 01:28 GMT
#161
On September 30 2014 10:16 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2014 09:39 Crot4le wrote:
On September 30 2014 09:07 Dodgin wrote:
On September 30 2014 08:54 Crot4le wrote:
On September 30 2014 08:43 Dodgin wrote:
On September 30 2014 08:42 Crot4le wrote:
On September 30 2014 03:16 Faefae wrote:
I only heard of Winter because of this stream bot story. Hopefully he does such a good job that vierwership will be crazy high


He was proven innocent by Twitch by the way who looked into it when he applied for his premium partnership.


source?


Well there's this statistical analysis from Reddit which proved him innocent, the fact that he has never shown up in The Twitch Bot Detector. I don't have a source for the Twitch but it is true and there's no way Twitch would allow someone to get a Premium Partnership (which allows the streamer to get more sub and and ad revenue from Twitch) if they viewbotted.

Winter has said (as has Ketroc) that he has on a couple of isolated occasions had a view bot run on his channel without permission as a sort of free sample. But that is not in his control and not something he can be blamed for.


I'm going to help you since you apparently haven't researched twitch view bots at all.

1. Bots not only watch streams, they also talk in the chat(source: found this in 5 seconds using google: https://onlinestreambot.com/ ). The reddit link is worthless.


Not it's not at all worthless. It is analysing several data points, chat activity is only one of them. And besides, the numbers Winter pulls goes way beyond of the bot you are linking (only 40 chatters and 200 live viewers a month). Besides, if you ever have been in Winter's chat you would know how authentic it is. No different to BaseTradeTV's chat with similar numbers.


On September 30 2014 09:07 Dodgin wrote:2. " there's no way Twitch would allow someone to get a Premium Partnership (which allows the streamer to get more sub and and ad revenue from Twitch) if they view botted. "

One of the major advertisement points for these view bot selling companies is helping you get partnered quickly.



Well obviously it doesn't work because Twitch has more about them, hence why Winter was recently cleared by them.


On September 30 2014 09:07 Dodgin wrote:3. What Winter says on the topic doesn't matter, you could easily claim that someone else is view botting you and there's nothing you can do about it while actually being the one doing it yourself. Who in the fuck would spend their own money on view botting someone else's channel?(Okay I'm sure It's been done, but really how unlikely is this)


Are you calling Ketroc a liar too? And I'm pretty sure that Rifkin has talked about some dodgy stuff with the viewer count that he was unsure about too.

I mean at this stage despite all the evidence you are clearly just believing what you want to believe because the reality contradicts your preconceived beliefs and opinion of the guy.


I don't care enough about this to write another long post but your idea of " evidence " is fucking hilarious

I'll leave it at this: there are twitch staff that are in on this shit, it's a corrupt business just like any other in the world.

I always knew it, twitch chat is 90% bots, there was no way real people are that retarded
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deathly rat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom911 Posts
September 30 2014 01:42 GMT
#162
If I didn't live thousands of miles away I would be going to homestory cup X in a heartbeat
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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
September 30 2014 04:16 GMT
#163
On September 30 2014 10:11 AWalker9 wrote:
I'm not a fan and I don't like his stream, so I would have preferred someone like RifKing instead. I also believe other comuinity members merit/deserve it more.


I would totally support that. Rifkin is #DaPassion - even though he plays terran :p
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3408 Posts
September 30 2014 04:26 GMT
#164
What is the nearest major airport near Krefeld?
김택용 Fighting!
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
September 30 2014 04:51 GMT
#165
Winter? Interesting...
Long live the Boss Toss!
HomeWorld
Profile Joined December 2011
Romania903 Posts
September 30 2014 05:09 GMT
#166
Interesting indeed, might not watch it.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
September 30 2014 05:10 GMT
#167
Lmao, some of you guys are so pathetic.

You'd really not watch an entire amazing tournament because Winter will be casting a few games? Get real guys.
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
September 30 2014 05:12 GMT
#168
Even if winter has viewbotted in the past, what's there to be done now? He got the gig and we'll see how he does. If he spaghettis he'll disappear and if he's good he'll continue on. It's not like other people in esports haven't done questionable things to get a breakthrough.

On September 30 2014 13:16 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2014 10:11 AWalker9 wrote:
I'm not a fan and I don't like his stream, so I would have preferred someone like RifKing instead. I also believe other comuinity members merit/deserve it more.


I would totally support that. Rifkin is #DaPassion - even though he plays terran :p


Only people with passion play terran
This is a fact. Patron Saint Boxer has set the example.

But Rifkin would def be a good addition. I watch his casts a lot of times.
rip passion
Applesmack
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada680 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-30 05:27:57
September 30 2014 05:17 GMT
#169
I personally am excited BECAUSE Winter is casting it. Oh and I love all the GM players confused about why Winter has lots of viewers even though he is "only mid-Masters". Nobody gives a shit that you are GM, people watch players because of personality and commentary. Winter is easily the best streamer at that and that is why he is popular. Only way to get viewers based on skill is if you are a RO4+ WCS Premier league player or a champion of a major tournament. Even then, your viewers will be lower than streamers with good commentary unless you match it.
stefan16
Profile Joined June 2014
103 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-30 05:54:09
September 30 2014 05:52 GMT
#170
Have checked winter's stream a few times, purely out of curiosity because the high viewership. I gotta say that he's far from impressive, mostly only describe whatever happen atm, analysis kind of shallow, don't know much about player history or style. Then again, he's a community streamer, not a full time caster and I don't think he put so much effort like a pro caster, so the casting style is kind of understandable.

This event might be his window of opportunity to step higher, but somehow I doubt he could deliver

Oh, and I agree with the guy above, viewership isn't solely depend on skill. I see MC, Bomber, and Stardust streaming, their viewership is far below incontrol or demuslim. Skillwise, we know which one is better
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
September 30 2014 05:57 GMT
#171
Anyway, winter casting is good for viewership
oh in the sun sun having fun
TaKeSeN
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany197 Posts
September 30 2014 06:03 GMT
#172
Düsseldorf (Dus) would be the best airport to come over for HSC
Frankfurt is like 2,5 hours by train to HSC but is a way bigger airport

Düsseldorf is just 20mins ride with the car or 30mins train


//Dennis

SO EXCITED!
We have 1 Winner but really 2 Losers ;)
projectChaos
Profile Joined December 2011
154 Posts
September 30 2014 06:17 GMT
#173
We want more trash-castercombos like Inc, Apo, 2GD !!!!

and please make sure that any caster combination has at least one guy who can speak english properly. (no full korean caster set e.g.)

(it is a good thing that Incontrol goes as an official full caster. The guy is funny PLUS one more seat for a serious programer, no hate)
Wormi
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany181 Posts
September 30 2014 06:18 GMT
#174
On September 30 2014 14:52 stefan16 wrote:
Have checked winter's stream a few times, purely out of curiosity because the high viewership. I gotta say that he's far from impressive, mostly only describe whatever happen atm, analysis kind of shallow, don't know much about player history or style.


ye, i was thinking the same. also his chat was really quiet for 3k people watching it. kinda boring tbh.
even if i don´t think his appearance at hsc will change my mind about his stream, maybe i´ll understand why people like it.
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
September 30 2014 06:32 GMT
#175
I was like what ? 245 ?? then i saw 4days.

Hope it's going to fun like a normal HSC.

Is winter that guy that stream from day 1 and have like ... 300 viewers ? (or maybe it's 3K ?) I remember that name but i'm not sure i'm on thhe good guy. Hope so, he was cool
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Chylvain
Profile Joined July 2012
France43 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-30 07:07:58
September 30 2014 07:07 GMT
#176
Winter casting ?
I will turn off the sound, fuck it.
"No GG, No Skill", that's why I never say "gg".
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
September 30 2014 07:50 GMT
#177
On September 30 2014 13:16 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2014 10:11 AWalker9 wrote:
I'm not a fan and I don't like his stream, so I would have preferred someone like RifKing instead. I also believe other comuinity members merit/deserve it more.


I would totally support that. Rifkin is #DaPassion - even though he plays terran :p


I think Take mentioned on stream that Winter offered to do this for free of his own and just wanted to come over and do this. Say what you want but he has #passion and makes his own opportunities. It's not lilke Take was looking for another caster he'd pay (I'm pretty sure it would've only been Rotti and iNcontrol originally) and decided on Winter. Winter made this happen on his own and I respect that. He will also be doing more interviews than casting (I can hear NarutO exhaling in relief).
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
September 30 2014 07:54 GMT
#178
On September 30 2014 02:18 GumBa wrote:
OMG. I might have to crack into my savings for this D: sooo cool.

so, are we going for yet another #passion run?
wishr
Profile Joined February 2012
Russian Federation262 Posts
September 30 2014 08:11 GMT
#179
More SC2 action!
But seriously, Winter?!
* Only girls complain about balance! *
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
September 30 2014 09:58 GMT
#180
On September 30 2014 13:26 Yaqoob wrote:
What is the nearest major airport near Krefeld?


Düsseldorf
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