EPTOn September 30 2014 10:16 Dodgin wrote:
I don't care enough about this to write another long post but your idea of " evidence " is fucking hilarious
I'll leave it at this: there are twitch staff that are in on this shit, it's a corrupt business just like any other in the world.
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On September 30 2014 09:39 Crot4le wrote:
Not it's not at all worthless. It is analysing several data points, chat activity is only one of them. And besides, the numbers Winter pulls goes way beyond of the bot you are linking (only 40 chatters and 200 live viewers a month). Besides, if you ever have been in Winter's chat you would know how authentic it is. No different to BaseTradeTV's chat with similar numbers.
Well obviously it doesn't work because Twitch has more about them, hence why Winter was recently cleared by them.
Are you calling Ketroc a liar too? And I'm pretty sure that Rifkin has talked about some dodgy stuff with the viewer count that he was unsure about too.
I mean at this stage despite all the evidence you are clearly just believing what you want to believe because the reality contradicts your preconceived beliefs and opinion of the guy.
On September 30 2014 09:07 Dodgin wrote:
I'm going to help you since you apparently haven't researched twitch view bots at all.
1. Bots not only watch streams, they also talk in the chat(source: found this in 5 seconds using google: https://onlinestreambot.com/ ). The reddit link is worthless.
On September 30 2014 08:54 Crot4le wrote:
Well there's this statistical analysis from Reddit which proved him innocent, the fact that he has never shown up in The Twitch Bot Detector. I don't have a source for the Twitch but it is true and there's no way Twitch would allow someone to get a Premium Partnership (which allows the streamer to get more sub and and ad revenue from Twitch) if they viewbotted.
Winter has said (as has Ketroc) that he has on a couple of isolated occasions had a view bot run on his channel without permission as a sort of free sample. But that is not in his control and not something he can be blamed for.
On September 30 2014 08:43 Dodgin wrote:
source?
On September 30 2014 08:42 Crot4le wrote:
He was proven innocent by Twitch by the way who looked into it when he applied for his premium partnership.
On September 30 2014 03:16 Faefae wrote:
I only heard of Winter because of this stream bot story. Hopefully he does such a good job that vierwership will be crazy high
I only heard of Winter because of this stream bot story. Hopefully he does such a good job that vierwership will be crazy high
He was proven innocent by Twitch by the way who looked into it when he applied for his premium partnership.
source?
Well there's this statistical analysis from Reddit which proved him innocent, the fact that he has never shown up in The Twitch Bot Detector. I don't have a source for the Twitch but it is true and there's no way Twitch would allow someone to get a Premium Partnership (which allows the streamer to get more sub and and ad revenue from Twitch) if they viewbotted.
Winter has said (as has Ketroc) that he has on a couple of isolated occasions had a view bot run on his channel without permission as a sort of free sample. But that is not in his control and not something he can be blamed for.
I'm going to help you since you apparently haven't researched twitch view bots at all.
1. Bots not only watch streams, they also talk in the chat(source: found this in 5 seconds using google: https://onlinestreambot.com/ ). The reddit link is worthless.
Not it's not at all worthless. It is analysing several data points, chat activity is only one of them. And besides, the numbers Winter pulls goes way beyond of the bot you are linking (only 40 chatters and 200 live viewers a month). Besides, if you ever have been in Winter's chat you would know how authentic it is. No different to BaseTradeTV's chat with similar numbers.
On September 30 2014 09:07 Dodgin wrote:2. " there's no way Twitch would allow someone to get a Premium Partnership (which allows the streamer to get more sub and and ad revenue from Twitch) if they view botted. "
One of the major advertisement points for these view bot selling companies is helping you get partnered quickly.
One of the major advertisement points for these view bot selling companies is helping you get partnered quickly.
Well obviously it doesn't work because Twitch has more about them, hence why Winter was recently cleared by them.
On September 30 2014 09:07 Dodgin wrote:3. What Winter says on the topic doesn't matter, you could easily claim that someone else is view botting you and there's nothing you can do about it while actually being the one doing it yourself. Who in the fuck would spend their own money on view botting someone else's channel?(Okay I'm sure It's been done, but really how unlikely is this)
Are you calling Ketroc a liar too? And I'm pretty sure that Rifkin has talked about some dodgy stuff with the viewer count that he was unsure about too.
I mean at this stage despite all the evidence you are clearly just believing what you want to believe because the reality contradicts your preconceived beliefs and opinion of the guy.
I don't care enough about this to write another long post but your idea of " evidence " is fucking hilarious
I'll leave it at this: there are twitch staff that are in on this shit, it's a corrupt business just like any other in the world.
I always knew it, twitch chat is 90% bots, there was no way real people are that retarded
