he's definitely a strong player and if he can't be #1 in korea, he can def dominate elsewhere
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Deathstar
9150 Posts
he's definitely a strong player and if he can't be #1 in korea, he can def dominate elsewhere | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On October 04 2014 23:10 Deathstar wrote: I think soO should join a foreign team he's definitely a strong player and if he can't be #1 in korea, he can def dominate elsewhere soO is #1 in Korea every day except the days when there are GSL finals | ||
Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On October 04 2014 21:43 liberate71 wrote: Current line? Including Polt and MMA is just as crazy. Not really on the same level... | ||
Topin
Peru10039 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On October 04 2014 23:10 Deathstar wrote: I think soO should join a foreign team he's definitely a strong player and if he can't be #1 in korea, he can def dominate elsewhere I think he should retire. If he falls off now, people will say he has been broken, make Kong jokes and so on. But anything other than winning a GSL (or something comparable) in the near future will be regarded as falling off. He should retire while being in the spotlight. | ||
rotta
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sharkie
Austria18327 Posts
On October 04 2014 23:02 Neemi wrote: Through travelling and through actually winning games at those events, too. His failures this year are terribly overstated, while his victores are undersold. Both years he made 6 semi-finals before Blizzcon. This year he won 2, and got stuck at semi's 4 times. Last year he got second 5 times, which is about equal. The competition wasn't very different, either (besides his first miracle run in WCS Season 2). He had a 54.3% win-rate against offline Korean competition and everyone was excited to see him. This year he's at 52.7% and suddenly he doesn't deserve to be there, while making the finals with his 54.3% last time. If he makes it this year, I won't be surprised if he makes it to Ro8/Ro4 again. I know Snute is a foreigner and I'd absolutely love to see him there too, but he got the points the same way Jaedong did. Same for Naniwa last year, or even Taeja this year. Fact is, Taeja was better than Jaedong at many of those tournaments, but Jaedong was better than many other people. I love Mvp, but I feel Jaedong has more right to a spot than Mvp had last year, as Mvp basically dropped off completely after an amazing first season. But that's how a yearly point system works. Don't hate the player, hate the game. But on-topic: The final game was really well played from both sides, which I'm glad I got to watch. Congrats Innovation for winning, and for having an amazing shot at reaching Blizzcon now. Poor soO, he really deserves a win by now. He's kind of like Taeja in GSL, who during his prime had his absolute solidness carry him very far, but then never being able to bring that little extra in the final stages. I hope for his sake he ends up anywhere but second at Blizzcon, that would just be crushing. naniwa totally deserved his blizzcon spot last year... he performed very well at the season 2 finals and got top2/top4 in several tournaments | ||
SNSeigifried
United States1640 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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tehfleet
2 Posts
On October 04 2014 22:42 orvinreyes wrote: yeah it looked like he was looking into the crowd or something? or was this off cam? yeah, pretty sure he was in a very comfortable position compared to earlier | ||
WombaT
Northern Ireland24203 Posts
On October 04 2014 23:11 Zealously wrote: soO is #1 in Korea every day except the days when there are GSL finals Or the days he plays Kespa Cup or Proleague. Can't really argue with his GSL runs though, hopefully he can regroup mentally for Blizzcon. Speaking of said event, despite feeling horrible for soO I do think a Blizzcon without a resurgent Inno would have been lacking something | ||
WombaT
Northern Ireland24203 Posts
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kaykoose
United States2302 Posts
They both go on my list of terran legends before Inno and Maru | ||
lastride
2390 Posts
On October 04 2014 21:37 [PkF] Wire wrote: A lot of people seem to not count it as a GSL win since it was technically OSL. Of course it's stupid, but I don't think that was an oversight. All we can say is that the current line of T korean champions is pretty crazy : Mvp, Maru, INno. and hopefully Flash is the next ![]() | ||
WombaT
Northern Ireland24203 Posts
On October 05 2014 00:20 kaykoose wrote: They both go on my list of terran legends before Inno and Maru Under what rationale? I'd definitely have MMA and Polt on a list of greatest Terrans, but not necessarily ahead of Maru and Inno | ||
[PkF] Wire
France24192 Posts
I'm absolutely OK with it ! | ||
Musicus
Germany23573 Posts
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
On October 04 2014 23:29 Shellshock wrote: STX SouL is the new Zenex. All their players end up on other teams and get great results 3 GSL, 2 WCS season finals, 1 MLG... God I wish We could see more of Mini, hyvaa and Last. P.S: late as always, congrats to INno. Can we expect a lenghty Gumba blog? Also poor soO, dw tho he will win blizzcon | ||
kaykoose
United States2302 Posts
On October 05 2014 00:36 Wombat_NI wrote: Under what rationale? I'd definitely have MMA and Polt on a list of greatest Terrans, but not necessarily ahead of Maru and Inno To me, if we're talking the greatest in any sport then we're talking numbers. Overall stats, achievements/titles, years of relevence... 7 and 6 titles for MMA and Polt respectively along with their longevity puts them over those guys in ranking the greatest. I don't feel like there is a debate here. And it's no shade on Inno or especially Maru who is super young. They are the better players now but they haven't done enough to be put over MMA and Polt on a greatest list. Inno winning this GSL doesn't suddenly throw him above these guys to me. | ||
StarStruck
25339 Posts
On October 04 2014 23:02 Neemi wrote: Through travelling and through actually winning games at those events, too. His failures this year are terribly overstated, while his victores are undersold. Both years he made 6 semi-finals before Blizzcon. This year he won 2, and got stuck at semi's 4 times. Last year he got second 5 times, which is about equal. The competition wasn't very different, either (besides his first miracle run in WCS Season 2). He had a 54.3% win-rate against offline Korean competition and everyone was excited to see him. This year he's at 52.7% and suddenly he doesn't deserve to be there, while making the finals with his 54.3% last time. If he makes it this year, I won't be surprised if he makes it to Ro8/Ro4 again. I know Snute is a foreigner and I'd absolutely love to see him there too, but he got the points the same way Jaedong did. Same for Naniwa last year, or even Taeja this year. Fact is, Taeja was better than Jaedong at many of those tournaments, but Jaedong was better than many other people. I love Mvp, but I feel Jaedong has more right to a spot than Mvp had last year, as Mvp basically dropped off completely after an amazing first season. But that's how a yearly point system works. Don't hate the player, hate the game. But on-topic: The final game was really well played from both sides, which I'm glad I got to watch. Congrats Innovation for winning, and for having an amazing shot at reaching Blizzcon now. Poor soO, he really deserves a win by now. He's kind of like Taeja in GSL, who during his prime had his absolute solidness carry him very far, but then never being able to bring that little extra in the final stages. I hope for his sake he ends up anywhere but second at Blizzcon, that would just be crushing. I think you've been drinking the EG juice fella. Not undersold at all. The point system is a joke. Cue "Who's Line is it Anyway" where the points don't matter. | ||
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