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On August 16 2014 06:50 Shellshock wrote:
what is this tankless mech
Bad
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ZigguratOfUr
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On August 16 2014 06:46 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2014 06:44 Squat wrote:On August 16 2014 06:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 16 2014 06:39 Squat wrote:On August 16 2014 06:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 16 2014 06:34 AWalker9 wrote:On August 16 2014 06:32 dark1882 wrote:
geez what is up with the sudden MC hate it was like this last redbull quali too, what's the point of even complaining that your sick of him? It's not like the bracket was made for you specifically, he's the most consistent(as in he never really fell off not that his skill didn't go up and down like a roller coaster) player throughout all of sc2 and he deserves our respect. It's not about respect, it's not even hate. A lot of people are just bored of seeing the same players invited to tournaments. Is it a bad thing that people want to see other or less well known players playing? Not at all. I guess some people just have different opinions on this matter ; I personally love to see the best players doing their job. You deserve exposure. If Journey for instance had beaten MC, maybe he'd be on main stream, alas for him he didn't. But MC is nowhere near the best, just one of the most popular. I disagree. He's definitely not tier 1 anymore, but he's not only an entertainer. He's not one of the best as in he's not one of the 16 best players in the world, and as such I don't want to see him at blizzcon. He's also not a top 5 protoss, and as such I'd like to see others invited over him instead. He's good, but not good enough to warrant all the freebies he's getting. WCS points system works this way. I would like WCS KR to have a far heavier weigh (for instance, Bunny got more points in Gfinity than you'd get for a GSL ro8, which is outrageous, if you ask me the mere fact of entering code S should at least be worth 500 pts), but it's not MC's fault if the system is like that.
Making entering code S worth 500 points is completely ridiculous. That would put someone with 3 Code S ro64 be at the 23rd rank of the current system.
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United States97277 Posts
On August 16 2014 06:51 Faust852 wrote:Bad
seems that way
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That was a really cool build, maybe with refinement he can get it to work? Thors are pretty awesome!
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Dammit MarineKing needs to learn to build tanks.
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MKP looked good for awhile
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On August 16 2014 06:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2014 06:46 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 16 2014 06:44 Squat wrote:On August 16 2014 06:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 16 2014 06:39 Squat wrote:On August 16 2014 06:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 16 2014 06:34 AWalker9 wrote:On August 16 2014 06:32 dark1882 wrote:
geez what is up with the sudden MC hate it was like this last redbull quali too, what's the point of even complaining that your sick of him? It's not like the bracket was made for you specifically, he's the most consistent(as in he never really fell off not that his skill didn't go up and down like a roller coaster) player throughout all of sc2 and he deserves our respect. It's not about respect, it's not even hate. A lot of people are just bored of seeing the same players invited to tournaments. Is it a bad thing that people want to see other or less well known players playing? Not at all. I guess some people just have different opinions on this matter ; I personally love to see the best players doing their job. You deserve exposure. If Journey for instance had beaten MC, maybe he'd be on main stream, alas for him he didn't. But MC is nowhere near the best, just one of the most popular. I disagree. He's definitely not tier 1 anymore, but he's not only an entertainer. He's not one of the best as in he's not one of the 16 best players in the world, and as such I don't want to see him at blizzcon. He's also not a top 5 protoss, and as such I'd like to see others invited over him instead. He's good, but not good enough to warrant all the freebies he's getting. WCS points system works this way. I would like WCS KR to have a far heavier weigh (for instance, Bunny got more points in Gfinity than you'd get for a GSL ro8, which is outrageous, if you ask me the mere fact of entering code S should at least be worth 500 pts), but it's not MC's fault if the system is like that. Making entering code S worth 500 points is completely ridiculous. That would put someone with 3 Code S ro64 be at the 23rd rank of the current system.
There's no ro64. That's Code A. Code S only has 32 players.
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On August 16 2014 06:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2014 06:46 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 16 2014 06:44 Squat wrote:On August 16 2014 06:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 16 2014 06:39 Squat wrote:On August 16 2014 06:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 16 2014 06:34 AWalker9 wrote:On August 16 2014 06:32 dark1882 wrote:
geez what is up with the sudden MC hate it was like this last redbull quali too, what's the point of even complaining that your sick of him? It's not like the bracket was made for you specifically, he's the most consistent(as in he never really fell off not that his skill didn't go up and down like a roller coaster) player throughout all of sc2 and he deserves our respect. It's not about respect, it's not even hate. A lot of people are just bored of seeing the same players invited to tournaments. Is it a bad thing that people want to see other or less well known players playing? Not at all. I guess some people just have different opinions on this matter ; I personally love to see the best players doing their job. You deserve exposure. If Journey for instance had beaten MC, maybe he'd be on main stream, alas for him he didn't. But MC is nowhere near the best, just one of the most popular. I disagree. He's definitely not tier 1 anymore, but he's not only an entertainer. He's not one of the best as in he's not one of the 16 best players in the world, and as such I don't want to see him at blizzcon. He's also not a top 5 protoss, and as such I'd like to see others invited over him instead. He's good, but not good enough to warrant all the freebies he's getting. WCS points system works this way. I would like WCS KR to have a far heavier weigh (for instance, Bunny got more points in Gfinity than you'd get for a GSL ro8, which is outrageous, if you ask me the mere fact of entering code S should at least be worth 500 pts), but it's not MC's fault if the system is like that. Making entering code S worth 500 points is completely ridiculous. That would put someone with 3 Code S ro64 be at the 23rd rank of the current system.
But people who live in korea are obviously better than everyone living somewhere else, of course they should get free points!
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United States97277 Posts
just saw petraeus beat EffOrt too
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On August 16 2014 06:53 LoneYoShi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2014 06:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On August 16 2014 06:46 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 16 2014 06:44 Squat wrote:On August 16 2014 06:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 16 2014 06:39 Squat wrote:On August 16 2014 06:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 16 2014 06:34 AWalker9 wrote:On August 16 2014 06:32 dark1882 wrote:
geez what is up with the sudden MC hate it was like this last redbull quali too, what's the point of even complaining that your sick of him? It's not like the bracket was made for you specifically, he's the most consistent(as in he never really fell off not that his skill didn't go up and down like a roller coaster) player throughout all of sc2 and he deserves our respect. It's not about respect, it's not even hate. A lot of people are just bored of seeing the same players invited to tournaments. Is it a bad thing that people want to see other or less well known players playing? Not at all. I guess some people just have different opinions on this matter ; I personally love to see the best players doing their job. You deserve exposure. If Journey for instance had beaten MC, maybe he'd be on main stream, alas for him he didn't. But MC is nowhere near the best, just one of the most popular. I disagree. He's definitely not tier 1 anymore, but he's not only an entertainer. He's not one of the best as in he's not one of the 16 best players in the world, and as such I don't want to see him at blizzcon. He's also not a top 5 protoss, and as such I'd like to see others invited over him instead. He's good, but not good enough to warrant all the freebies he's getting. WCS points system works this way. I would like WCS KR to have a far heavier weigh (for instance, Bunny got more points in Gfinity than you'd get for a GSL ro8, which is outrageous, if you ask me the mere fact of entering code S should at least be worth 500 pts), but it's not MC's fault if the system is like that. Making entering code S worth 500 points is completely ridiculous. That would put someone with 3 Code S ro64 be at the 23rd rank of the current system. There's no ro64. That's Code A. Code S only has 32 players.
ro32. The point remains.
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On August 16 2014 06:53 Shellshock wrote:
just saw petraeus beat EffOrt too
yeah he's on a roll! hope to see him vs cure on stream
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On August 16 2014 06:53 Shellshock wrote:
just saw petraeus beat EffOrt too
#NewForeignHope ?
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On August 16 2014 06:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2014 06:46 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 16 2014 06:44 Squat wrote:On August 16 2014 06:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 16 2014 06:39 Squat wrote:On August 16 2014 06:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 16 2014 06:34 AWalker9 wrote:On August 16 2014 06:32 dark1882 wrote:
geez what is up with the sudden MC hate it was like this last redbull quali too, what's the point of even complaining that your sick of him? It's not like the bracket was made for you specifically, he's the most consistent(as in he never really fell off not that his skill didn't go up and down like a roller coaster) player throughout all of sc2 and he deserves our respect. It's not about respect, it's not even hate. A lot of people are just bored of seeing the same players invited to tournaments. Is it a bad thing that people want to see other or less well known players playing? Not at all. I guess some people just have different opinions on this matter ; I personally love to see the best players doing their job. You deserve exposure. If Journey for instance had beaten MC, maybe he'd be on main stream, alas for him he didn't. But MC is nowhere near the best, just one of the most popular. I disagree. He's definitely not tier 1 anymore, but he's not only an entertainer. He's not one of the best as in he's not one of the 16 best players in the world, and as such I don't want to see him at blizzcon. He's also not a top 5 protoss, and as such I'd like to see others invited over him instead. He's good, but not good enough to warrant all the freebies he's getting. WCS points system works this way. I would like WCS KR to have a far heavier weigh (for instance, Bunny got more points in Gfinity than you'd get for a GSL ro8, which is outrageous, if you ask me the mere fact of entering code S should at least be worth 500 pts), but it's not MC's fault if the system is like that. Making entering code S worth 500 points is completely ridiculous. That would put someone with 3 Code S ro64 be at the 23rd rank of the current system.
I don't think this would be bad. Who is better according to you, Bunny (I've nothing against him guys, he's just close to 1500 pts in current rankings) or a player who was able to retain his GSL code S status three times in a row (who would have 300 pts in the current system) ? I genuinely think the later has done a much more amazing performance. ro32 code S players don't get any acknowledgement of their skill, code B/code A brackets are so stacked...
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On August 16 2014 06:55 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2014 06:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On August 16 2014 06:46 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 16 2014 06:44 Squat wrote:On August 16 2014 06:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 16 2014 06:39 Squat wrote:On August 16 2014 06:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 16 2014 06:34 AWalker9 wrote:On August 16 2014 06:32 dark1882 wrote:
geez what is up with the sudden MC hate it was like this last redbull quali too, what's the point of even complaining that your sick of him? It's not like the bracket was made for you specifically, he's the most consistent(as in he never really fell off not that his skill didn't go up and down like a roller coaster) player throughout all of sc2 and he deserves our respect. It's not about respect, it's not even hate. A lot of people are just bored of seeing the same players invited to tournaments. Is it a bad thing that people want to see other or less well known players playing? Not at all. I guess some people just have different opinions on this matter ; I personally love to see the best players doing their job. You deserve exposure. If Journey for instance had beaten MC, maybe he'd be on main stream, alas for him he didn't. But MC is nowhere near the best, just one of the most popular. I disagree. He's definitely not tier 1 anymore, but he's not only an entertainer. He's not one of the best as in he's not one of the 16 best players in the world, and as such I don't want to see him at blizzcon. He's also not a top 5 protoss, and as such I'd like to see others invited over him instead. He's good, but not good enough to warrant all the freebies he's getting. WCS points system works this way. I would like WCS KR to have a far heavier weigh (for instance, Bunny got more points in Gfinity than you'd get for a GSL ro8, which is outrageous, if you ask me the mere fact of entering code S should at least be worth 500 pts), but it's not MC's fault if the system is like that. Making entering code S worth 500 points is completely ridiculous. That would put someone with 3 Code S ro64 be at the 23rd rank of the current system. I don't think this would be bad. Who is better according to you, Bunny (I've nothing against him guys, he's just close to 1500 pts in current rankings) or a player who was able to retain his GSL code S status three times in a row (who would have 300 pts in the current system) ? I genuinely think the later has done a much more amazing performance. ro32 code S players don't get any acknowledgement of their skill, code B/code A brackets are so stacked they should be considered major tournaments.
Yeah it's kinda sad that soO might not keep his place in the top 16 despite finishing 2nd twice.
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Cure got this qualifier easy peasy?
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On August 16 2014 06:56 AWalker9 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2014 06:55 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 16 2014 06:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On August 16 2014 06:46 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 16 2014 06:44 Squat wrote:On August 16 2014 06:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 16 2014 06:39 Squat wrote:On August 16 2014 06:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 16 2014 06:34 AWalker9 wrote:On August 16 2014 06:32 dark1882 wrote:
geez what is up with the sudden MC hate it was like this last redbull quali too, what's the point of even complaining that your sick of him? It's not like the bracket was made for you specifically, he's the most consistent(as in he never really fell off not that his skill didn't go up and down like a roller coaster) player throughout all of sc2 and he deserves our respect. It's not about respect, it's not even hate. A lot of people are just bored of seeing the same players invited to tournaments. Is it a bad thing that people want to see other or less well known players playing? Not at all. I guess some people just have different opinions on this matter ; I personally love to see the best players doing their job. You deserve exposure. If Journey for instance had beaten MC, maybe he'd be on main stream, alas for him he didn't. But MC is nowhere near the best, just one of the most popular. I disagree. He's definitely not tier 1 anymore, but he's not only an entertainer. He's not one of the best as in he's not one of the 16 best players in the world, and as such I don't want to see him at blizzcon. He's also not a top 5 protoss, and as such I'd like to see others invited over him instead. He's good, but not good enough to warrant all the freebies he's getting. WCS points system works this way. I would like WCS KR to have a far heavier weigh (for instance, Bunny got more points in Gfinity than you'd get for a GSL ro8, which is outrageous, if you ask me the mere fact of entering code S should at least be worth 500 pts), but it's not MC's fault if the system is like that. Making entering code S worth 500 points is completely ridiculous. That would put someone with 3 Code S ro64 be at the 23rd rank of the current system. I don't think this would be bad. Who is better according to you, Bunny (I've nothing against him guys, he's just close to 1500 pts in current rankings) or a player who was able to retain his GSL code S status three times in a row (who would have 300 pts in the current system) ? I genuinely think the later has done a much more amazing performance. ro32 code S players don't get any acknowledgement of their skill, code B/code A brackets are so stacked they should be considered major tournaments. Yeah it's kinda sad that soO might not keep his place in the top 16 despite finishing 2nd twice.
Exactly. soO not making it to Blizzcon would be an aberration of the system (he should make a good run this season too though if his play today is a good indicator of his form and get the points he needs).
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On August 16 2014 06:53 Zheryn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2014 06:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On August 16 2014 06:46 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 16 2014 06:44 Squat wrote:On August 16 2014 06:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 16 2014 06:39 Squat wrote:On August 16 2014 06:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 16 2014 06:34 AWalker9 wrote:On August 16 2014 06:32 dark1882 wrote:
geez what is up with the sudden MC hate it was like this last redbull quali too, what's the point of even complaining that your sick of him? It's not like the bracket was made for you specifically, he's the most consistent(as in he never really fell off not that his skill didn't go up and down like a roller coaster) player throughout all of sc2 and he deserves our respect. It's not about respect, it's not even hate. A lot of people are just bored of seeing the same players invited to tournaments. Is it a bad thing that people want to see other or less well known players playing? Not at all. I guess some people just have different opinions on this matter ; I personally love to see the best players doing their job. You deserve exposure. If Journey for instance had beaten MC, maybe he'd be on main stream, alas for him he didn't. But MC is nowhere near the best, just one of the most popular. I disagree. He's definitely not tier 1 anymore, but he's not only an entertainer. He's not one of the best as in he's not one of the 16 best players in the world, and as such I don't want to see him at blizzcon. He's also not a top 5 protoss, and as such I'd like to see others invited over him instead. He's good, but not good enough to warrant all the freebies he's getting. WCS points system works this way. I would like WCS KR to have a far heavier weigh (for instance, Bunny got more points in Gfinity than you'd get for a GSL ro8, which is outrageous, if you ask me the mere fact of entering code S should at least be worth 500 pts), but it's not MC's fault if the system is like that. Making entering code S worth 500 points is completely ridiculous. That would put someone with 3 Code S ro64 be at the 23rd rank of the current system. But people who live in korea are obviously better than everyone living somewhere else, of course they should get free points!
Are you seriously arguing Korea isn't orders of magnitude harder than the other regions? Korea should have more spots and points because it's harder, and difficult achievements should be rewarded proportionally.
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On August 16 2014 06:46 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2014 06:44 Squat wrote:On August 16 2014 06:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 16 2014 06:39 Squat wrote:On August 16 2014 06:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 16 2014 06:34 AWalker9 wrote:On August 16 2014 06:32 dark1882 wrote:
geez what is up with the sudden MC hate it was like this last redbull quali too, what's the point of even complaining that your sick of him? It's not like the bracket was made for you specifically, he's the most consistent(as in he never really fell off not that his skill didn't go up and down like a roller coaster) player throughout all of sc2 and he deserves our respect. It's not about respect, it's not even hate. A lot of people are just bored of seeing the same players invited to tournaments. Is it a bad thing that people want to see other or less well known players playing? Not at all. I guess some people just have different opinions on this matter ; I personally love to see the best players doing their job. You deserve exposure. If Journey for instance had beaten MC, maybe he'd be on main stream, alas for him he didn't. But MC is nowhere near the best, just one of the most popular. I disagree. He's definitely not tier 1 anymore, but he's not only an entertainer. He's not one of the best as in he's not one of the 16 best players in the world, and as such I don't want to see him at blizzcon. He's also not a top 5 protoss, and as such I'd like to see others invited over him instead. He's good, but not good enough to warrant all the freebies he's getting. WCS points system works this way. I would like WCS KR to have a far heavier weigh (for instance, Bunny got more points in Gfinity than you'd get for a GSL ro8, which is outrageous, if you ask me the mere fact of entering code S should at least be worth 500 pts), but it's not MC's fault if the system is like that.
The simplest way to make the system work is to bring 32 players to Blizzcon, 2012 style (and modify the prize pool accordingly). The 16 to 32 list of this year is insane.
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