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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-15 21:42:41
August 15 2014 21:41 GMT
#1181
On August 16 2014 06:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 06:39 Squat wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:34 AWalker9 wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:32 dark1882 wrote:
geez what is up with the sudden MC hate it was like this last redbull quali too, what's the point of even complaining that your sick of him? It's not like the bracket was made for you specifically, he's the most consistent(as in he never really fell off not that his skill didn't go up and down like a roller coaster) player throughout all of sc2 and he deserves our respect.


It's not about respect, it's not even hate. A lot of people are just bored of seeing the same players invited to tournaments. Is it a bad thing that people want to see other or less well known players playing?


Not at all. I guess some people just have different opinions on this matter ; I personally love to see the best players doing their job. You deserve exposure. If Journey for instance had beaten MC, maybe he'd be on main stream, alas for him he didn't.

But MC is nowhere near the best, just one of the most popular.


I disagree. He's definitely not tier 1 anymore, but he's not only an entertainer.


His jokes and BM seem so forced though. Nothing like the years of past.

On August 16 2014 06:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 06:35 TheDwf wrote:
(T)Cure 2-1 (Z)ByuL


Cure is on a tear. I honestly even wonder if he's not the best Terran player of the moment.


LOL tell that to Bunny!
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46626 Posts
August 15 2014 21:41 GMT
#1182
Wow MC, fail.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
dark1882
Profile Joined October 2012
Ireland529 Posts
August 15 2014 21:42 GMT
#1183
On August 16 2014 06:34 AWalker9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 06:32 dark1882 wrote:
geez what is up with the sudden MC hate it was like this last redbull quali too, what's the point of even complaining that your sick of him? It's not like the bracket was made for you specifically, he's the most consistent(as in he never really fell off not that his skill didn't go up and down like a roller coaster) player throughout all of sc2 and he deserves our respect.


It's not about respect, it's not even hate. A lot of people are just bored of seeing the same players invited to tournaments. Is it a bad thing that people want to see other or less well known players playing?

i'm sorry but the unkown player are never going to be invites because they're unkown, they're also not reliable. if they don't have a reason to think they have a chance at a tourney chances are an unkown will turn down a spot unless it's in a local area or paid trip. You are NEVER going to see an unkown korean invited to a foreign tournament you MIGHT see them make a good quali run which will bring notability but outside of sora how often has that happened recently? Also like i said it's very hard to get KESPA players at a tourney especially when proleague is on we might see an increase of them but even then it will be the proleague stars not players like terror and panic or terminator etc.
forge fast expand or die trying~Naniwa
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8324 Posts
August 15 2014 21:42 GMT
#1184
Rofl. Outch. I dunno if I've seen a loss that embarrassing since San put a pylon where his expo should be...
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-15 21:43:18
August 15 2014 21:42 GMT
#1185
On August 16 2014 06:41 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 06:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:35 TheDwf wrote:
(T)Cure 2-1 (Z)ByuL


Cure is on a tear. I honestly even wonder if he's not the best Terran player of the moment.

No, not even close.


You're more of a specialist than me on this topic. Who are the best T players atm then according to you ?
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
August 15 2014 21:43 GMT
#1186
I missed the game, what happened?
Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
August 15 2014 21:43 GMT
#1187
On August 16 2014 06:39 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 06:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:34 AWalker9 wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:32 dark1882 wrote:
geez what is up with the sudden MC hate it was like this last redbull quali too, what's the point of even complaining that your sick of him? It's not like the bracket was made for you specifically, he's the most consistent(as in he never really fell off not that his skill didn't go up and down like a roller coaster) player throughout all of sc2 and he deserves our respect.


It's not about respect, it's not even hate. A lot of people are just bored of seeing the same players invited to tournaments. Is it a bad thing that people want to see other or less well known players playing?


Not at all. I guess some people just have different opinions on this matter ; I personally love to see the best players doing their job. You deserve exposure. If Journey for instance had beaten MC, maybe he'd be on main stream, alas for him he didn't.

But MC is nowhere near the best, just one of the most popular.


They didn't give him all those WCS points for free you know. He did win WCS EU and got 3 second places in premier tournaments this year.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-15 21:45:00
August 15 2014 21:44 GMT
#1188
On August 16 2014 06:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 06:39 Squat wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:34 AWalker9 wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:32 dark1882 wrote:
geez what is up with the sudden MC hate it was like this last redbull quali too, what's the point of even complaining that your sick of him? It's not like the bracket was made for you specifically, he's the most consistent(as in he never really fell off not that his skill didn't go up and down like a roller coaster) player throughout all of sc2 and he deserves our respect.


It's not about respect, it's not even hate. A lot of people are just bored of seeing the same players invited to tournaments. Is it a bad thing that people want to see other or less well known players playing?


Not at all. I guess some people just have different opinions on this matter ; I personally love to see the best players doing their job. You deserve exposure. If Journey for instance had beaten MC, maybe he'd be on main stream, alas for him he didn't.

But MC is nowhere near the best, just one of the most popular.


I disagree. He's definitely not tier 1 anymore, but he's not only an entertainer.

He's not one of the best as in he's not one of the 16 best players in the world, and as such I don't want to see him at blizzcon. He's also not a top 5 protoss, and as such I'd like to see others invited over him instead. He's good, but not good enough to warrant all the freebies he's getting.
They didn't give him all those WCS points for free you know. He did win WCS EU and got 3 second places in premier tournaments this year.

You're right, he got them from mostly invite tournaments against medium level opposition.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
LoneYoShi
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
France1348 Posts
August 15 2014 21:44 GMT
#1189
MKP going for Thor hellbat ?
LoneYoShi
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
France1348 Posts
August 15 2014 21:45 GMT
#1190
No way MKP gets through those tanks
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-15 21:47:50
August 15 2014 21:46 GMT
#1191
On August 16 2014 06:44 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 06:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:39 Squat wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:34 AWalker9 wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:32 dark1882 wrote:
geez what is up with the sudden MC hate it was like this last redbull quali too, what's the point of even complaining that your sick of him? It's not like the bracket was made for you specifically, he's the most consistent(as in he never really fell off not that his skill didn't go up and down like a roller coaster) player throughout all of sc2 and he deserves our respect.


It's not about respect, it's not even hate. A lot of people are just bored of seeing the same players invited to tournaments. Is it a bad thing that people want to see other or less well known players playing?


Not at all. I guess some people just have different opinions on this matter ; I personally love to see the best players doing their job. You deserve exposure. If Journey for instance had beaten MC, maybe he'd be on main stream, alas for him he didn't.

But MC is nowhere near the best, just one of the most popular.


I disagree. He's definitely not tier 1 anymore, but he's not only an entertainer.

He's not one of the best as in he's not one of the 16 best players in the world, and as such I don't want to see him at blizzcon. He's also not a top 5 protoss, and as such I'd like to see others invited over him instead. He's good, but not good enough to warrant all the freebies he's getting.


WCS points system works this way. I would like WCS KR to have a far heavier weigh (for instance, Bunny got more points in Gfinity than you'd get for a GSL ro8, which is outrageous, if you ask me the mere fact of entering code S should at least be worth 500 pts), but it's not MC's fault if the system is like that.
Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
August 15 2014 21:46 GMT
#1192
On August 16 2014 06:44 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 06:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:39 Squat wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:34 AWalker9 wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:32 dark1882 wrote:
geez what is up with the sudden MC hate it was like this last redbull quali too, what's the point of even complaining that your sick of him? It's not like the bracket was made for you specifically, he's the most consistent(as in he never really fell off not that his skill didn't go up and down like a roller coaster) player throughout all of sc2 and he deserves our respect.


It's not about respect, it's not even hate. A lot of people are just bored of seeing the same players invited to tournaments. Is it a bad thing that people want to see other or less well known players playing?


Not at all. I guess some people just have different opinions on this matter ; I personally love to see the best players doing their job. You deserve exposure. If Journey for instance had beaten MC, maybe he'd be on main stream, alas for him he didn't.

But MC is nowhere near the best, just one of the most popular.


I disagree. He's definitely not tier 1 anymore, but he's not only an entertainer.

He's not one of the best as in he's not one of the 16 best players in the world, and as such I don't want to see him at blizzcon. He's also not a top 5 protoss, and as such I'd like to see others invited over him instead. He's good, but not good enough to warrant all the freebies he's getting.
Show nested quote +
They didn't give him all those WCS points for free you know. He did win WCS EU and got 3 second places in premier tournaments this year.

You're right, he got them from mostly invite tournaments against medium level opposition.


Call Kespa. Tell them to get with the program and make more players available for WCS events/organize some themselves. Don't harp on progamers who just do their jobs: play in tournaments.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
August 15 2014 21:48 GMT
#1193
MKP vs Bbyong is really weird.
Foreverkul
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1649 Posts
August 15 2014 21:48 GMT
#1194
This is one of the sickest TvTs ever! Those THORS man! :D
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
August 15 2014 21:48 GMT
#1195
On August 16 2014 06:42 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 06:41 TheDwf wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:35 TheDwf wrote:
(T)Cure 2-1 (Z)ByuL


Cure is on a tear. I honestly even wonder if he's not the best Terran player of the moment.

No, not even close.


You're more of a specialist than me on this topic. Who are the best T players atm then according to you ?

Recently in Korea, Maru, Flash and TY.
LoneYoShi
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
France1348 Posts
August 15 2014 21:49 GMT
#1196
This tank-less mech style is really interesting. Does any of you have experience with this ? How well does it work ? First tim I'm seeing it, doesn't seem that good tbh...
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
August 15 2014 21:49 GMT
#1197
On August 16 2014 06:46 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 06:44 Squat wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:39 Squat wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:34 AWalker9 wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:32 dark1882 wrote:
geez what is up with the sudden MC hate it was like this last redbull quali too, what's the point of even complaining that your sick of him? It's not like the bracket was made for you specifically, he's the most consistent(as in he never really fell off not that his skill didn't go up and down like a roller coaster) player throughout all of sc2 and he deserves our respect.


It's not about respect, it's not even hate. A lot of people are just bored of seeing the same players invited to tournaments. Is it a bad thing that people want to see other or less well known players playing?


Not at all. I guess some people just have different opinions on this matter ; I personally love to see the best players doing their job. You deserve exposure. If Journey for instance had beaten MC, maybe he'd be on main stream, alas for him he didn't.

But MC is nowhere near the best, just one of the most popular.


I disagree. He's definitely not tier 1 anymore, but he's not only an entertainer.

He's not one of the best as in he's not one of the 16 best players in the world, and as such I don't want to see him at blizzcon. He's also not a top 5 protoss, and as such I'd like to see others invited over him instead. He's good, but not good enough to warrant all the freebies he's getting.


WCS points system works this way. I would like WCS KR to have a far heavier weigh (for instance, Bunny got more points in Gfinity than you'd get for a GSL ro8, which is outrageous, if you ask me the mere fact of entering code S should at least be worth 500 pts), but it's not MC's fault if the system is like that.

True, it's important to stress, I don't blame MC at all, I'd do the exact same thing in his shoes. It's just general irritation with the bad joke WCS has become.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 15 2014 21:50 GMT
#1198
On August 16 2014 06:48 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 06:42 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:41 TheDwf wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:35 TheDwf wrote:
(T)Cure 2-1 (Z)ByuL


Cure is on a tear. I honestly even wonder if he's not the best Terran player of the moment.

No, not even close.


You're more of a specialist than me on this topic. Who are the best T players atm then according to you ?

Recently in Korea, Maru, Flash and TY.

I am a TY fanboy myself, but honestly there is nothing which suggests that he is better than cure tbh
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
August 15 2014 21:50 GMT
#1199
what is this tankless mech
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
August 15 2014 21:50 GMT
#1200
On August 16 2014 06:48 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 06:42 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:41 TheDwf wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 16 2014 06:35 TheDwf wrote:
(T)Cure 2-1 (Z)ByuL


Cure is on a tear. I honestly even wonder if he's not the best Terran player of the moment.

No, not even close.


You're more of a specialist than me on this topic. Who are the best T players atm then according to you ?

Recently in Korea, Maru, Flash and TY.


Those are definitely fair choices, but I'll be curious to see how Cure does in this GSL. His recent games impressed me in many ways and I really think this could be his breakout tournament.
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