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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 14 2014 22:54 GMT
#581
On August 15 2014 07:53 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2014 07:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On August 15 2014 07:52 geokilla wrote:
On August 15 2014 07:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 15 2014 07:50 DJHelium wrote:
storms.


Yeah turns out walking straight into them while being shot at by stalkers and colossi isn't a good idea. How overconfidence can lose you games.

You mean Storms just break the game in general.

You know you should really cut it out with the balance whine

Fine. Deleted. Though I fail to see how it's balance whining... Just stating the obvious?

This is still balance whine
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
August 14 2014 22:55 GMT
#582
On August 15 2014 07:53 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2014 07:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On August 15 2014 07:52 geokilla wrote:
On August 15 2014 07:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 15 2014 07:50 DJHelium wrote:
storms.


Yeah turns out walking straight into them while being shot at by stalkers and colossi isn't a good idea. How overconfidence can lose you games.

You mean Storms just break the game in general.

You know you should really cut it out with the balance whine

Fine. Deleted. Though I fail to see how it's balance whining... Just stating the obvious?


You're making your case worse.
Foreverkul
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1649 Posts
August 14 2014 22:56 GMT
#583
How does 100 supply Protoss stand up to 200 supply Terran? Im confused
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 14 2014 22:56 GMT
#584
On August 15 2014 07:53 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2014 07:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On August 15 2014 07:52 geokilla wrote:
On August 15 2014 07:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 15 2014 07:50 DJHelium wrote:
storms.


Yeah turns out walking straight into them while being shot at by stalkers and colossi isn't a good idea. How overconfidence can lose you games.

You mean Storms just break the game in general.

You know you should really cut it out with the balance whine

Fine. Deleted. Though I fail to see how it's balance whining... Just stating the obvious?


take if from someone who is pretty familiar with balance whine and getting banned... just don't agrue.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 14 2014 22:56 GMT
#585
On August 15 2014 07:56 Foreverkul wrote:
How does 100 supply Protoss stand up to 200 supply Terran? Im confused


Haha, but Tear was ahead in supply after those storms. Yoda's econ won him this game.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
August 14 2014 22:56 GMT
#586
On August 15 2014 07:56 Foreverkul wrote:
How does 100 supply Protoss stand up to 200 supply Terran? Im confused

Yoda took a bad engagement and didn't split when he got hit by Storms. He might have been looking elsewhere or thought that he can just rambo his way through it as Rotti said.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
August 14 2014 22:56 GMT
#587
On August 15 2014 07:56 Foreverkul wrote:
How does 100 supply Protoss stand up to 200 supply Terran? Im confused


There was never 100 vs 200 supply in this game. Protoss is cost efficient and can win 140-180 or even 140-200 fights, yes, but this is how the race works.
RaNgeD
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States733 Posts
August 14 2014 22:57 GMT
#588
I'm just curious, do replays ever get released from these types of events? Because this bracket has been $tacked.
Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance. 1 Corinthians 13:7
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
August 14 2014 22:57 GMT
#589
On August 15 2014 07:56 Foreverkul wrote:
How does 100 supply Protoss stand up to 200 supply Terran? Im confused


Luckily, in this game, micro and army control is also important and not only having the bigger army.
Terran players should know this pretty well since they've been calling themselves the most micro intensive race since the release.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
August 14 2014 22:57 GMT
#590
Yoda has one of the sickest ghost control I ever seen.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
August 14 2014 22:58 GMT
#591
On August 15 2014 07:54 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2014 07:53 geokilla wrote:
On August 15 2014 07:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On August 15 2014 07:52 geokilla wrote:
On August 15 2014 07:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 15 2014 07:50 DJHelium wrote:
storms.


Yeah turns out walking straight into them while being shot at by stalkers and colossi isn't a good idea. How overconfidence can lose you games.

You mean Storms just break the game in general.

You know you should really cut it out with the balance whine

Fine. Deleted. Though I fail to see how it's balance whining... Just stating the obvious?

This is still balance whine

he is just stating the obvious man
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 14 2014 22:58 GMT
#592
On August 15 2014 07:56 Foreverkul wrote:
How does 100 supply Protoss stand up to 200 supply Terran? Im confused


It didn't, he lost the game.

But if you talk about that engagement where Yoda lost a lot to storm, just imagine a terran player walking 30+ marines into a couple of banelings. It's not cost effective if the terran splits, but if you clump up and tank the hits you lose all your units.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 14 2014 23:02 GMT
#593
On August 15 2014 07:56 Foreverkul wrote:
How does 100 supply Protoss stand up to 200 supply Terran? Im confused

…

This not so subtle balance whining can best be equated to a protoss player asking why he lost to a Terran after being up 100 supply and then walking into a nuke. YoDa took a really bad fight and walked into storms with no splits. That'll happen.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 14 2014 23:03 GMT
#594
Damn nice job by Hurricane, but it sounds like YoDa was close to having it in the bag.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Foreverkul
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1649 Posts
August 14 2014 23:04 GMT
#595
On August 15 2014 07:58 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2014 07:56 Foreverkul wrote:
How does 100 supply Protoss stand up to 200 supply Terran? Im confused


It didn't, he lost the game.

But if you talk about that engagement where Yoda lost a lot to storm, just imagine a terran player walking 30+ marines into a couple of banelings. It's not cost effective if the terran splits, but if you clump up and tank the hits you lose all your units.

How come Terran don't have anything that can do that? I guess there is widow mine but they aren't mobile like storm and banelings. Terran should be able to manual cast widow mines!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 14 2014 23:04 GMT
#596
On August 15 2014 08:03 vult wrote:
Damn nice job by Hurricane, but it sounds like YoDa was close to having it in the bag.

YoDa won 2-1
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 14 2014 23:05 GMT
#597
On August 15 2014 08:04 Foreverkul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2014 07:58 DJHelium wrote:
On August 15 2014 07:56 Foreverkul wrote:
How does 100 supply Protoss stand up to 200 supply Terran? Im confused


It didn't, he lost the game.

But if you talk about that engagement where Yoda lost a lot to storm, just imagine a terran player walking 30+ marines into a couple of banelings. It's not cost effective if the terran splits, but if you clump up and tank the hits you lose all your units.

How come Terran don't have anything that can do that? I guess there is widow mine but they aren't mobile like storm and banelings. Terran should be able to manual cast widow mines!

If widow mines were manual cast how would one both split and cast widow mines at the same time? There are probably like 30 Terrans in the world who could multitask well enough to make that work
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 14 2014 23:05 GMT
#598
On August 15 2014 08:04 Foreverkul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2014 07:58 DJHelium wrote:
On August 15 2014 07:56 Foreverkul wrote:
How does 100 supply Protoss stand up to 200 supply Terran? Im confused


It didn't, he lost the game.

But if you talk about that engagement where Yoda lost a lot to storm, just imagine a terran player walking 30+ marines into a couple of banelings. It's not cost effective if the terran splits, but if you clump up and tank the hits you lose all your units.

How come Terran don't have anything that can do that? I guess there is widow mine but they aren't mobile like storm and banelings. Terran should be able to manual cast widow mines!


Not all races are the same man. If widow mines get manual casting, they need to cost a hell of a lot more than they do now and need to come way later in the game.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
August 14 2014 23:06 GMT
#599
On August 15 2014 08:04 Foreverkul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2014 07:58 DJHelium wrote:
On August 15 2014 07:56 Foreverkul wrote:
How does 100 supply Protoss stand up to 200 supply Terran? Im confused


It didn't, he lost the game.

But if you talk about that engagement where Yoda lost a lot to storm, just imagine a terran player walking 30+ marines into a couple of banelings. It's not cost effective if the terran splits, but if you clump up and tank the hits you lose all your units.

How come Terran don't have anything that can do that? I guess there is widow mine but they aren't mobile like storm and banelings. Terran should be able to manual cast widow mines!


All races shouldn't have the same tools. And EMP / widow mines are pretty good.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-14 23:07:22
August 14 2014 23:06 GMT
#600
On August 15 2014 08:04 Foreverkul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2014 07:58 DJHelium wrote:
On August 15 2014 07:56 Foreverkul wrote:
How does 100 supply Protoss stand up to 200 supply Terran? Im confused


It didn't, he lost the game.

But if you talk about that engagement where Yoda lost a lot to storm, just imagine a terran player walking 30+ marines into a couple of banelings. It's not cost effective if the terran splits, but if you clump up and tank the hits you lose all your units.

How come Terran don't have anything that can do that? I guess there is widow mine but they aren't mobile like storm and banelings. Terran should be able to manual cast widow mines!


I can't find it right now, but someone made a vid of a terran and a protoss army of equal value a-moving onto eachother. Without EMP, protoss won slightly. With EMP, the protoss army got slaughtered.

So EMP is what terran has!

Also, every race is unique. For example, during the lategame terran can get a bigger army thanks to mules.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
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