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SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
August 03 2014 10:49 GMT
#241
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duckk
Profile Joined March 2013
United States622 Posts
August 03 2014 10:49 GMT
#242
On August 03 2014 19:47 SatedSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2014 19:45 duckk wrote:
On August 03 2014 19:42 Faust852 wrote:
Now we might see why SH might require a nerf soon.

they cant nerf the sh or the raven because nerfing one without the other would break the matchup to 90/10 either way... and goodluck appropriately nerfing both of those units.

I don't think Swarm Hosts are a balance problem. They're a design problem. Like other people have pointed out, free units in a resource-based game just doesn't make that much sense irrespective of win %.



Yeah I agree they are a horribly designed unit, but ravens are sort of kind of the same thing, but with their energy and the ability to make everything invulnerable unless abducted... I cant even fathom how blizzard would rework the swarmhost without making zerg too weak.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
August 03 2014 10:49 GMT
#243
dis' is a good game
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
August 03 2014 10:50 GMT
#244
Snute wins= IMBA SH.
MMA wins= godlike terran hero.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24592 Posts
August 03 2014 10:50 GMT
#245
On August 03 2014 19:49 Foreverkul wrote:
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On August 03 2014 19:44 Lorning wrote:
The whine is strong today

People starting to catch on that the alleged "Terran Buffs" actually didn't do anything. The whine will return with vengeance.


Yeah.. right.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
August 03 2014 10:50 GMT
#246
MMA's not using any PDDs....
Liquipedia"Expert"
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
August 03 2014 10:51 GMT
#247
What a treat to watch
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
August 03 2014 10:51 GMT
#248
Poor MMA, this kind of game does not play his strengths at all.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18537 Posts
August 03 2014 10:51 GMT
#249
major played way way better mech than MMA
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
August 03 2014 10:51 GMT
#250
On August 03 2014 19:47 Inflicted wrote:
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On August 03 2014 19:46 RaFox17 wrote:
Not sure if going mech against one of the best SH players in the world is the best idea.


Don't think Zerg can do anything against 7-base SkyTerran

You can hope he's dumb and seekers a bunch of mutas and then fly them into the viking/raven cloud. Otherwise, I dunno Kev.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
August 03 2014 10:52 GMT
#251
oh i tune in and its one of these games again
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
August 03 2014 10:52 GMT
#252
Mech doesn't fit MMA, he just can't switch his mind to correct approach seems like.
Noc-
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland850 Posts
August 03 2014 10:52 GMT
#253
On August 03 2014 19:50 RaFox17 wrote:
Snute wins= IMBA SH.
MMA wins= godlike terran hero.


Yea thats true actually. You need to be at least 2x better to win that free unit composition
SEKO SEKO MMA<3 SEKO SEKO
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
August 03 2014 10:53 GMT
#254
Swarm host horror... poor MMA. If he wins this game I will be amazed.

On the other hand... go foreign hope (tm)
I play random | I like Hots | INnoVation | sOs | Tefel TOP1!
Foreverkul
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1649 Posts
August 03 2014 10:53 GMT
#255
On August 03 2014 19:49 duckk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2014 19:47 SatedSC2 wrote:
On August 03 2014 19:45 duckk wrote:
On August 03 2014 19:42 Faust852 wrote:
Now we might see why SH might require a nerf soon.

they cant nerf the sh or the raven because nerfing one without the other would break the matchup to 90/10 either way... and goodluck appropriately nerfing both of those units.

I don't think Swarm Hosts are a balance problem. They're a design problem. Like other people have pointed out, free units in a resource-based game just doesn't make that much sense irrespective of win %.



Yeah I agree they are a horribly designed unit, but ravens are sort of kind of the same thing, but with their energy and the ability to make everything invulnerable unless abducted... I cant even fathom how blizzard would rework the swarmhost without making zerg too weak.

Give them energy, spawn swarmling becomes an ability with a cool down and energy cost. Can't infinitely spam and have to play strategically.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
August 03 2014 10:54 GMT
#256
On August 03 2014 19:52 Noc- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2014 19:50 RaFox17 wrote:
Snute wins= IMBA SH.
MMA wins= godlike terran hero.


Yea thats true actually. You need to be at least 2x better to win that free unit composition

you know what free units of zerg do not attack? Air
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
August 03 2014 10:54 GMT
#257
sacrifice your scvs ffs.
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
August 03 2014 10:55 GMT
#258
i still dont think SH are OP as a whole, they're just OP against mech, which has always kinda sucked anyway throughout hots except on some very specific maps
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
August 03 2014 10:55 GMT
#259
On August 03 2014 19:54 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2014 19:52 Noc- wrote:
On August 03 2014 19:50 RaFox17 wrote:
Snute wins= IMBA SH.
MMA wins= godlike terran hero.


Yea thats true actually. You need to be at least 2x better to win that free unit composition

you know what free units of zerg do not attack? Air


You know who cannot build 30 ravens instantly after losing his army? Terran!
I play random | I like Hots | INnoVation | sOs | Tefel TOP1!
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
August 03 2014 10:55 GMT
#260
Snute got this
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
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