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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 17 2014 20:24 GMT
#381
On June 18 2014 05:22 Josh_Video wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 05:20 Exarl25 wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:19 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:18 SC2Toastie wrote:
That sentry drop forcefield bullshit should have been fixed years ago, but nevertheless, awesome game!


Sadly that's how the game is balanced. You can't 'get rid' of it no matter how bullshit that aspect of forcefield is. Increasing rampsize just doesnt work and changing the size of forcefields would royally fuck with all of protoss


There is absolutely nothing wrong with the tactic in the first place. It is always 100% a mistake from the Zerg when it works.


What are you supposed to do? keep a force capable of defeating 4 sentries and infinite zealots in your main at all times?

Yeah i think it's unreasonable to be able to have a force defend that. Scarlett should've had at least one overlord in the dead space on that map for vision, usually she's very good with overlord spread.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
June 17 2014 20:24 GMT
#382
On June 18 2014 05:21 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 05:18 SC2Toastie wrote:
That sentry drop forcefield bullshit should have been fixed years ago, but nevertheless, awesome game!

FF should be removed, give them something other. FF killed so many exciting games.

You mean made them more exciting, right? #protossforlyfe
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
June 17 2014 20:25 GMT
#383
I remember when San beat Life in GSTL with one of the first sentry drop games. People loved it
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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10165 Posts
June 17 2014 20:25 GMT
#384
So, what is a TvT ?
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
June 17 2014 20:25 GMT
#385
You guys are in a tournament thread -,-
I already regret mentioning it....
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
June 17 2014 20:25 GMT
#386
On June 18 2014 05:23 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 05:23 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:20 Exarl25 wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:19 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:18 SC2Toastie wrote:
That sentry drop forcefield bullshit should have been fixed years ago, but nevertheless, awesome game!


Sadly that's how the game is balanced. You can't 'get rid' of it no matter how bullshit that aspect of forcefield is. Increasing rampsize just doesnt work and changing the size of forcefields would royally fuck with all of protoss


There is absolutely nothing wrong with the tactic in the first place. It is always 100% a mistake from the Zerg when it works.


The fact that 3 sentries (the amount needed for 'unlimited forcefields') can win someone the game shouldn't be possible.

The amount for unlimited FF is 6.


Pretty sure its 3 full energy sentries (which would be 6 non full). These attacks only work because the 3 can hold the main for as long as the protoss hits their FF
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
June 17 2014 20:25 GMT
#387
On June 18 2014 05:25 Shellshock wrote:
I remember when San beat Life in GSTL with one of the first sentry drop games. People loved it

NO! It DESTROYs exciting games and by that eSports, ya' heard?!!
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 17 2014 20:25 GMT
#388
On June 18 2014 05:23 stuchiu wrote:
Huk should pick Scarlett. He's 4-1 against her I think?


He will.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 17 2014 20:25 GMT
#389
On June 18 2014 05:24 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 05:22 Josh_Video wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:20 Exarl25 wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:19 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:18 SC2Toastie wrote:
That sentry drop forcefield bullshit should have been fixed years ago, but nevertheless, awesome game!


Sadly that's how the game is balanced. You can't 'get rid' of it no matter how bullshit that aspect of forcefield is. Increasing rampsize just doesnt work and changing the size of forcefields would royally fuck with all of protoss


There is absolutely nothing wrong with the tactic in the first place. It is always 100% a mistake from the Zerg when it works.


What are you supposed to do? keep a force capable of defeating 4 sentries and infinite zealots in your main at all times?

Yeah i think it's unreasonable to be able to have a force defend that. Scarlett should've had at least one overlord in the dead space on that map for vision, usually she's very good with overlord spread.


She did have one, and in fact had the warp prism move right by it.
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
June 17 2014 20:25 GMT
#390
On June 18 2014 05:23 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 05:20 Exarl25 wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:19 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:18 SC2Toastie wrote:
That sentry drop forcefield bullshit should have been fixed years ago, but nevertheless, awesome game!


Sadly that's how the game is balanced. You can't 'get rid' of it no matter how bullshit that aspect of forcefield is. Increasing rampsize just doesnt work and changing the size of forcefields would royally fuck with all of protoss


There is absolutely nothing wrong with the tactic in the first place. It is always 100% a mistake from the Zerg when it works.


The fact that 3 sentries (the amount needed for 'unlimited forcefields') can win someone the game shouldn't be possible.


On June 18 2014 05:22 Josh_Video wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 05:20 Exarl25 wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:19 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:18 SC2Toastie wrote:
That sentry drop forcefield bullshit should have been fixed years ago, but nevertheless, awesome game!


Sadly that's how the game is balanced. You can't 'get rid' of it no matter how bullshit that aspect of forcefield is. Increasing rampsize just doesnt work and changing the size of forcefields would royally fuck with all of protoss


There is absolutely nothing wrong with the tactic in the first place. It is always 100% a mistake from the Zerg when it works.


What are you supposed to do? keep a force capable of defeating 4 sentries and infinite zealots in your main at all times?


And here come the Scarlett fanboys. Funny how we don't see this move more often if it's apparently so broken. Violet gave no fucks about Pucks' forcefields. The Sentry drop has been deflected with ease time and time again.
WTCO
Profile Joined September 2013
United States646 Posts
June 17 2014 20:26 GMT
#391
On June 18 2014 05:23 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 05:23 stuchiu wrote:
Huk should pick Scarlett. He's 4-1 against her I think?

Yea in the qualifiers for this


But only 7-14 all time.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
June 17 2014 20:26 GMT
#392
On June 18 2014 05:25 Godwrath wrote:
So, what is a TvT ?

An endangered match-up in this generation, the previous generations enjoyed them aplenty but sadly due to years of overuse they are now growing rare.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 17 2014 20:26 GMT
#393
On June 18 2014 05:26 WTCO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 05:23 Shellshock wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:23 stuchiu wrote:
Huk should pick Scarlett. He's 4-1 against her I think?

Yea in the qualifiers for this


But only 7-14 all time.


Recent results matter a lot more than historical ones.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
June 17 2014 20:26 GMT
#394
On June 18 2014 05:22 bluQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 05:18 SC2Toastie wrote:
That sentry drop forcefield bullshit should have been fixed years ago, but nevertheless, awesome game!

I always wonder what those people had said to Reaver or Stormdrops....

They are ok because you can react immediately. FF can prevent your reaction.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 17 2014 20:27 GMT
#395
On June 18 2014 05:26 WTCO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 05:23 Shellshock wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:23 stuchiu wrote:
Huk should pick Scarlett. He's 4-1 against her I think?

Yea in the qualifiers for this


But only 7-14 all time.

Still I feel like HuK will feel confident against Scarlett. Likely choice right there.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8160 Posts
June 17 2014 20:27 GMT
#396
On June 18 2014 05:23 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 05:19 Jer99 wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:18 SC2Toastie wrote:
That sentry drop forcefield bullshit should have been fixed years ago, but nevertheless, awesome game!

A legit strategy that punishes players for being out of position? nerf it

Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 05:19 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:18 SC2Toastie wrote:
That sentry drop forcefield bullshit should have been fixed years ago, but nevertheless, awesome game!


Sadly that's how the game is balanced. You can't 'get rid' of it no matter how bullshit that aspect of forcefield is. Increasing rampsize just doesnt work and changing the size of forcefields would royally fuck with all of protoss

I don't want to devolve this thread to a discussion on how retarded forcefield is. Sorries.

PS Jer99, I sincerely hope you are being sarcastic there.


Why would you think I'm being sarcastic? Scarletts army wasn't even near her main base, and if she had overlords in decent position on the map she would have seen the warp prism in enough time to bring back the army. Lots of mistakes on Scarletts side.

Take the previous game for example where puck wasn't looking and Scarlett was able to get her entire army on pucks army, completely demolishing it. That's also an exmaple of being out of position, and lost the game only because of that.

Not to mention the fact hat she was floating almost 2k minerals for at least half the game, she could have had well over 4 expansions at that point with a higher drone count.

... i don't know what else to say, she only lost ~20 drones (which she could have replaced easily with 2k minerals..), and a lair which she remade pretty fast.
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
June 17 2014 20:27 GMT
#397
On June 18 2014 05:26 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 05:22 bluQ wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:18 SC2Toastie wrote:
That sentry drop forcefield bullshit should have been fixed years ago, but nevertheless, awesome game!

I always wonder what those people had said to Reaver or Stormdrops....

They are ok because you can react immediately. FF can prevent your reaction.

What? Like ... whaaaat? When they are dropped its too late to pull ... Sentries were dropped on creep, away from ramp, units were warpd in before a FF was placed ... really?
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 17 2014 20:28 GMT
#398
Bad challenge from Scarlett looks like :D oh well. She should do well against most of the rest.
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bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
June 17 2014 20:29 GMT
#399
On June 18 2014 05:28 Darkhorse wrote:
Bad challenge from Scarlett looks like :D oh well. She should do well against most of the rest.

Well the worst player of those, maybe on par with HuK. But yea puCK is way more unpredictable/cheesy than HuK I guess.
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
Josh_Video
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada798 Posts
June 17 2014 20:29 GMT
#400
On June 18 2014 05:25 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 05:23 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:20 Exarl25 wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:19 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:18 SC2Toastie wrote:
That sentry drop forcefield bullshit should have been fixed years ago, but nevertheless, awesome game!


Sadly that's how the game is balanced. You can't 'get rid' of it no matter how bullshit that aspect of forcefield is. Increasing rampsize just doesnt work and changing the size of forcefields would royally fuck with all of protoss


There is absolutely nothing wrong with the tactic in the first place. It is always 100% a mistake from the Zerg when it works.


The fact that 3 sentries (the amount needed for 'unlimited forcefields') can win someone the game shouldn't be possible.


Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 05:22 Josh_Video wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:20 Exarl25 wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:19 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:18 SC2Toastie wrote:
That sentry drop forcefield bullshit should have been fixed years ago, but nevertheless, awesome game!


Sadly that's how the game is balanced. You can't 'get rid' of it no matter how bullshit that aspect of forcefield is. Increasing rampsize just doesnt work and changing the size of forcefields would royally fuck with all of protoss


There is absolutely nothing wrong with the tactic in the first place. It is always 100% a mistake from the Zerg when it works.


What are you supposed to do? keep a force capable of defeating 4 sentries and infinite zealots in your main at all times?


And here come the Scarlett fanboys. Funny how we don't see this move more often if it's apparently so broken. Violet gave no fucks about Pucks' forcefields. The Sentry drop has been deflected with ease time and time again.


In this particular case it was 100% Scarlett's fault, she seen it coming. I probably shouldn't have even said anything.
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