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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8693 Posts
May 13 2014 20:27 GMT
#1361
On May 14 2014 05:25 dsousa wrote:
These ZvZ's are 1000x more entertaining than Roach/Hydra.


yeah. however, what isn't better than roach/hydra wars? :D

GO STEPHANO!
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 13 2014 20:27 GMT
#1362
On May 14 2014 05:24 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 05:23 Bagration wrote:
On May 14 2014 05:21 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 14 2014 05:20 Bagration wrote:
On May 14 2014 05:19 Nebuchad wrote:
Like it or not, you certainly can't say after a game like this that there's no skill in using swarmhosts...


There is no skill in using swarm hosts. There, I said it


You're entitled to saying dumb shit, I suppose^^


I personally feel swarm hosts are a cancer to the game, and I'm going to bash the unit until I die.


Bashing the unit is one thing but they clearly require skill. Stephano wouldn't be miles better than other SH players if that wasn't true


As another user pointed out, Stephano's burrowed roach harass was the key. Swarm hosts you just rally. You and I can both do the same thing. You just place overlords and rally to where the enemy is.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
vjcamarena
Profile Joined October 2013
Spain493 Posts
May 13 2014 20:27 GMT
#1363
On May 14 2014 05:25 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 05:23 Yorkie wrote:
On May 14 2014 05:21 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 14 2014 05:20 Bagration wrote:
On May 14 2014 05:19 Nebuchad wrote:
Like it or not, you certainly can't say after a game like this that there's no skill in using swarmhosts...


There is no skill in using swarm hosts. There, I said it


You're entitled to saying dumb shit, I suppose^^

The skill came in with the roach harass. his hosts were just used to sit in his natural and defend


There were at least two occasions where his locust waves were microed to victory against Nerchio's. One at the center when he picked off three swarmhosts for free, and the battle at the top where Nerchio couldn't break the line despite being closer to the base than Stephano was.


Agreed. You can like SH or not (I don't really like them), but Stephano did things with them than Nerchio couldn't.
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Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 20:28:06
May 13 2014 20:27 GMT
#1364
On May 14 2014 05:25 dsousa wrote:
These ZvZ's are 1000x more entertaining than Roach/Hydra.


Well some roach hydras are good

This was a good game

Bad roach vs roach games exists
Bad SH vs SH games exists

This game was cool. Maybe we need more option versus swarmhost than going swarmhost so that we could have more fun. I mostly miss the fact that it's so hard to end a game when playing versus swarmhost.
SH range is maybe too big, they zone out every units too easily.
Wherewolf
Profile Joined December 2010
United States353 Posts
May 13 2014 20:27 GMT
#1365
On May 14 2014 05:25 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 05:23 Wherewolf wrote:
On May 14 2014 05:22 Ej_ wrote:
On May 14 2014 05:21 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
On May 14 2014 05:20 Bagration wrote:
On May 14 2014 05:19 Nebuchad wrote:
Like it or not, you certainly can't say after a game like this that there's no skill in using swarmhosts...


There is no skill in using swarm hosts. There, I said it


but why is stephano consistently playing the swarm host end game better than other zergs?

because hes the only guy devoted to practice it every single ladder game so he actually knows HOW to do it



So.. you have to practice using swarm hosts... almost as if.. it required skill to use them (???)

I believe his point is that every top zerg has the ability to use them, they just don't bother to learn how.

I certainly hope top players of a race have the ability to practice and get good at using an extremely important unit!
Nauseam
Profile Joined May 2013
Sweden191 Posts
May 13 2014 20:28 GMT
#1366
On May 14 2014 05:26 johnbongham wrote:
Stephano is the only zerg player who is boring enough to actually practice shitty swarmhost lategames and his fans try and make it seem as though it is because he is just so much better still than eveyrbody when in reality he is just abusing some broken shit better than anyone because nobody else actually wants to do the same. Yeah im a hater because I dont like watching garbage games.


Best thing that's been said in this thread.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
May 13 2014 20:28 GMT
#1367
Stephano is pretty much working only of his ZvZ so far isnt he? If i remember correctly, he got through challanger playing only ZvZ and a TvZ vs Demuslim.
I'd be interesting to see how he can compete in a potential ro16 group with good Ts/Ps
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
May 13 2014 20:28 GMT
#1368
On May 14 2014 05:23 b0rt_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 05:22 johnbongham wrote:
Really wish Stephano would stay retired.

he is


It's like we have different definitions of the word "retired"
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
ReMinD_
Profile Joined May 2013
Croatia846 Posts
May 13 2014 20:28 GMT
#1369
I thought people would give more credit to Stephano after that win. Come on, 3 bases vs 1, in a SH vs. SH situation. That was a total outplay.

Stephano's multitask is just better in these kinds of situation and his early ling / bling control is more than good enough to survive long enough for these situations to arrive.
Parting: Well, even I can make better maps than these.
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
May 13 2014 20:28 GMT
#1370
On May 14 2014 05:25 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 05:23 GTPGlitch wrote:
On May 14 2014 05:20 Integra wrote:
Stephano is simply too good. You can tell that Stephano has a better grasp of the game compared to his opponent. That game was sick.


yes, sitting on 1base with swarmhosts is a great grasp of the game....


Winning in that situation? Absolutely yes, and great grasp of his opponents.


That had basically nothing to do with stephano and everything to do with Nerchio

If nerchio did anything right he could have won easily, but he got overconfident and didn't expand at all, didn't remake drones, didn't handle the roaches well, and so he killed himself.
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pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
May 13 2014 20:28 GMT
#1371
On May 14 2014 05:25 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 05:23 Wherewolf wrote:
On May 14 2014 05:22 Ej_ wrote:
On May 14 2014 05:21 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
On May 14 2014 05:20 Bagration wrote:
On May 14 2014 05:19 Nebuchad wrote:
Like it or not, you certainly can't say after a game like this that there's no skill in using swarmhosts...


There is no skill in using swarm hosts. There, I said it


but why is stephano consistently playing the swarm host end game better than other zergs?

because hes the only guy devoted to practice it every single ladder game so he actually knows HOW to do it



So.. you have to practice using swarm hosts... almost as if.. it required skill to use them (???)

I believe his point is that every top zerg has the ability to use them, they just don't bother to learn how.

If other Zergs don't want to practice long games that's their problem. I'm enjoying watching a high-APM GoOdy.
owenose
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany108 Posts
May 13 2014 20:28 GMT
#1372
On May 14 2014 05:23 Wherewolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 05:22 Ej_ wrote:
On May 14 2014 05:21 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
On May 14 2014 05:20 Bagration wrote:
On May 14 2014 05:19 Nebuchad wrote:
Like it or not, you certainly can't say after a game like this that there's no skill in using swarmhosts...


There is no skill in using swarm hosts. There, I said it


but why is stephano consistently playing the swarm host end game better than other zergs?

because hes the only guy devoted to practice it every single ladder game so he actually knows HOW to do it



So.. you have to practice using swarm hosts... almost as if.. it required skill to use them (???)

Besides the game itself, this totally made my day :D
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 20:29:13
May 13 2014 20:29 GMT
#1373
On May 14 2014 05:27 vjcamarena wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 05:25 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 14 2014 05:23 Yorkie wrote:
On May 14 2014 05:21 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 14 2014 05:20 Bagration wrote:
On May 14 2014 05:19 Nebuchad wrote:
Like it or not, you certainly can't say after a game like this that there's no skill in using swarmhosts...


There is no skill in using swarm hosts. There, I said it


You're entitled to saying dumb shit, I suppose^^

The skill came in with the roach harass. his hosts were just used to sit in his natural and defend


There were at least two occasions where his locust waves were microed to victory against Nerchio's. One at the center when he picked off three swarmhosts for free, and the battle at the top where Nerchio couldn't break the line despite being closer to the base than Stephano was.


Agreed. You can like SH or not (I don't really like them), but Stephano did things with them than Nerchio couldn't.


+Stephano narrowing the path for locusts with changling : Brilliant.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 13 2014 20:29 GMT
#1374
It's sad, Stephano used to be such an interesting player. This is like a black stain on his legacy
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
May 13 2014 20:29 GMT
#1375
On May 14 2014 05:28 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 05:23 b0rt_ wrote:
On May 14 2014 05:22 johnbongham wrote:
Really wish Stephano would stay retired.

he is


It's like we have different definitions of the word "retired"

He is kind of retired.

Source : (Wiki)Stephano
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 13 2014 20:29 GMT
#1376
Poll: Odds of Stephano going Swarm Hosts are..

..harder than Artosis Curse (3)
 
33%

..better than TLO's creativity (3)
 
33%

..bigger than Incontrol's brawns (2)
 
22%

..sicker than Zealously Curse (1)
 
11%

..none (0)
 
0%

9 total votes

Your vote: Odds of Stephano going Swarm Hosts are..

(Vote): ..harder than Artosis Curse
(Vote): ..sicker than Zealously Curse
(Vote): ..bigger than Incontrol's brawns
(Vote): ..better than TLO's creativity
(Vote): ..none


Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
May 13 2014 20:29 GMT
#1377
On May 14 2014 05:27 Insoleet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 05:25 dsousa wrote:
These ZvZ's are 1000x more entertaining than Roach/Hydra.


Well some roach hydras are good

This was a good game

Bad roach vs roach games exists
Bad SH vs SH games exists

This game was cool. Maybe we need more option versus swarmhost than going swarmhost so that we could have more fun. I mostly miss the fact that it's so hard to end a game when playing versus swarmhost.
SH range is maybe too big, they zone out every units too easily.


Well, Nerchio could easily have ended the game. I'd say the casters were completely right: Dropping the roaches would just have straight up killed Stephano.
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
May 13 2014 20:29 GMT
#1378
On May 14 2014 05:26 b0rt_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 05:23 GTPGlitch wrote:
On May 14 2014 05:20 Integra wrote:
Stephano is simply too good. You can tell that Stephano has a better grasp of the game compared to his opponent. That game was sick.


yes, sitting on 1base with swarmhosts is a great grasp of the game....

If you know anything about this game you'll know Stephano has a great grasp of it.


He has a great grasp of ZvZ, and is playing in a format that lets him advance to the Ro16 on ZvZ alone.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
May 13 2014 20:29 GMT
#1379
Ah threads go to shit so fast when Stephano plays.
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Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
May 13 2014 20:30 GMT
#1380
On May 14 2014 05:23 GTPGlitch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 05:20 Integra wrote:
Stephano is simply too good. You can tell that Stephano has a better grasp of the game compared to his opponent. That game was sick.


yes, sitting on 1base with swarmhosts is a great grasp of the game....

I think he did a bit more...
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