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[Code A] Group I Season 2 2014 - Page 34
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On April 17 2014 16:56 Levistus wrote: guys how do you beat those tons of banelings and mutas if ever a zerg got to it against you? as terran or protoss. Spread out mines, tanks, marauders, good micro, building walls Collosi, Forcefield, Archon, Immortal, Air Tech, Storm | ||
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ssxsilver
United States4409 Posts
On April 17 2014 16:56 Levistus wrote: guys how do you beat those tons of banelings and mutas if ever a zerg got to it against you? as terran or protoss. He wasn't really babysitting that muta ball with an overseer right? TY could have probably pulled a Jjakji and prayed for a clutch minefield with how reckless True was with those mutas. Tanks just seem rather useless. | ||
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Frex
Finland888 Posts
On April 17 2014 16:56 Levistus wrote: guys how do you beat those tons of banelings and mutas if ever a zerg got to it against you? as terran or protoss. You go mech. | ||
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Ace Frehley
2030 Posts
On April 17 2014 16:56 Levistus wrote: guys how do you beat those tons of banelings and mutas if ever a zerg got to it against you? as terran or protoss. Forcefield, archon That's how Nestea played one hell of an ugly game against Huk a long time ago | ||
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On April 17 2014 16:58 TW wrote: Lol in the last game TY was so ahead after killing all those drones, after he caught all those mutas etc, still lost. Flash, TY eliminated by Shine, Hydra, True? What would happen if they played the very best Zergs? Hydra and True are really good players; Flash threw it against Shine. Don't whine. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On April 17 2014 16:59 Ace Frehley wrote: Forcefield, archon That's how Nestea played one hell of an ugly game against Huk a long time ago Oh god no... that game on TDA... and he just kept on making banelings and threw a 100supply lead or something like that. | ||
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TW
Poland255 Posts
As terran you add thors into your composition along with the masses of mines you should already be making, alternatively you go marine tank with thors later on. Mines? Seriously? Zergs learned just to ignore them when swarming lings and banes into your army. They will probably hurt more T army then Z because of friendly fire. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On April 17 2014 16:59 ssxsilver wrote: He wasn't really babysitting that muta ball with an overseer right? TY could have probably pulled a Jjakji and prayed for a clutch minefield with how reckless True was with those mutas. Tanks just seem rather useless. You can still see the mines without an overseer, you just can't target them. True spend A LOT of attention on his mutalisk, look how he got out of those traps by TY. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On April 17 2014 17:01 TW wrote: Mines? Seriously? Zergs learned just to ignore them when swarming lings and banes into your army. They will probably hurt more T army then Z because of friendly fire. Then you missmicro and deserve to lose. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On April 17 2014 16:58 TW wrote: Lol in the last game TY was so ahead after killing all those drones, after he caught all those mutas etc, still lost. Flash, TY eliminated by Shine, Hydra, True? What would happen if they played the very best Zergs? Had he built workers during that attack, yes. As it was, he was on 37SCVs at 10mins. Fucked up his macro. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On April 17 2014 17:02 Big J wrote: Had he built workers during that attack, yes. As it was, he was on 37SCVs at 10mins. Fucked up his macro. Also lost a good number IIRC. | ||
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TW
Poland255 Posts
Flash, TY eliminated by Shine, Hydra, True? What would happen if they played the very best Zergs? How many Terrans we need in Code S to force DK to react? 1, 2 none? | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On April 17 2014 17:03 TW wrote: BTW, in the last game TY was ahead after killing all those drones, after he caught all those mutas, failed baneling runbies etc, still lost. Flash, TY eliminated by Shine, Hydra, True? What would happen if they played the very best Zergs? How many Terrans we need in Code S to force DK to react? 1, 2 none? If you're going to aimlesly whine and just not even read the responses of the people giving you advise/discussing with you, what the hell are you doing in a discussion forum? Go away plz. | ||
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Qwerty85
Croatia5536 Posts
On April 17 2014 16:55 stuchiu wrote: It was pretty good, even if super messy. By the time he was losing 20+ mutas or whatever he had slaughtered 50 scvs, had a bigger land army, more creep spread and more drones. No matter the losses, he always makes up for it in damage taken from the Terran. I don't think that had anything to do with superior mechanics to be honest. True showed some very sloppy moves in both games. I missed 2/3 games against Supernova but his ling-muta counter attack was also just a waste of units when SuNo was doing his mech timing push. So his mechanics are not actually the best. He won because he basically plays ling-bane-muta with almost no lings. So basically mass bane-muta. And that beats bio+mine, bio+hellbat+thor and bio+tanks. On top of that add the superior mobility and regen of the Hots mutas (which makes it even easier to harass a bio+tank player than in WoL). TY could have added thors in as well but if he is doing both tanks and thors + bio, why just not go mech instead of that crappy hybrid style? He can save the money he is spending on bio upgrades and barracks and go for a straight up mech composition instead, hit a nice timing and roll over True. Just like SuperNova did. | ||
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WGT-Baal
France3414 Posts
On April 17 2014 17:05 SC2Toastie wrote: If you're going to aimlesly whine and just not even read the responses of the people giving you advise/discussing with you, what the hell are you doing in a discussion forum? Go away plz. he s got about 60 posts, don't waste your time on him, he s likely just a troll. | ||
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TW
Poland255 Posts
If you're going to aimlesly whine and just not even read the responses of the people giving you advise/discussing with you, what the hell are you doing in a discussion forum? What kind of responses? He should have built more mines, or make more Thors? I am tired of people saying what should Terrans do, how sloppy they were, that their micro wasn't good enough, failed at macro etc. What is a fact, is that Terrans are losing left and right. Tell me why almost no one said that True didn't play very well either, but so many people are pointing out TYs mistakes. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On April 17 2014 17:17 TW wrote: What kind of responses? He should have built more mines, or make more Thors? I am tired of people saying what should Terrans do, how sloppy they were, that their micro wasn't good enough, failed at macro etc. What is a fact, is that Terrans are losing left and right. Tell me why almost no one said that True didn't play very well either, but so many people are pointing out TYs mistakes. The numerous responses to your 'questions'. How to deal with mass banes? Tanks do it perfectly fine. TY did deal poorly with the mutalisk, wasn't prepared for the 2 base mutalisk transition. TY did make mistakes, and True did not and went for a really powerful attack when TY was low on AoE against the Tanks and had his forth denied and damaged multiple times. Flash and TY lost because their opposition was stronger. Because they made obvious mistakes. Stop complaining. Makes you sound stupid. On one hand you're whining T UP T UP, on the other, Supernova went 2-0 over Zerg using the same build twice. | ||
Destructicon
4713 Posts
On April 17 2014 17:22 SC2Toastie wrote: The numerous responses to your 'questions'. How to deal with mass banes? Tanks do it perfectly fine. TY did deal poorly with the mutalisk, wasn't prepared for the 2 base mutalisk transition. TY did make mistakes, and True did not and went for a really powerful attack when TY was low on AoE against the Tanks and had his forth denied and damaged multiple times. Flash and TY lost because their opposition was stronger. Because they made obvious mistakes. Stop complaining. Makes you sound stupid. On one hand you're whining T UP T UP, on the other, Supernova went 2-0 over Zerg using the same build twice. Actually I'd argue TY dealt with the 2 base mutas excellently, he didn't take much damage and scored several kills on the mutas. It went down hill in the mid game though, especially when he failed to scout and punish the 4th of True. Also TY made one huge mistake, he started 2/2 super, you're supposed to start your 3/3 at like 14 or 15 mins, TY started his 2/2 at around 16. | ||
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