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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/U8gQ3TI.png) Thursday, Apr 17 4:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_2/Code_A TL Preview: Click here
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 TRUE vs  Choya
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 SuperNova vs TY
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/l5YZ8.png) + Show Spoiler [kpop] ++ Show Spoiler [Live Reports] +TRUE vs Choya Game 1 TRUE vs Choya Game 2 TRUE vs Choya Game 3 SuperNova vs TY Game 1 SuperNova vs TY Game 2 SuperNova vs TY Game 3Winner's Match Game 1 Winner's Match Game 2 Winner's Match Game 3 Loser's Match Game 1 Loser's Match Game 2 Loser's Match Game 3 Final Match Game 1 Final Match Game 2 Final Match Game 3
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3wcCS.png) + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler [TRUE vs Choya] +Poll: Recommend TRUE vs Choya Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (3) 30% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6) 60% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend TRUE vs Choya Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend TRUE vs Choya Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (3) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 25% ★★★- Good game (6) 50% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend TRUE vs Choya Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend TRUE vs Choya Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 40% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4) 40% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 10% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend TRUE vs Choya Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend SuperNova vs TY Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 25% ★★★- Good game (3) 38% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (3) 38% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend SuperNova vs TY Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend SuperNova vs TY Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 5% ★★★- Good game (3) 14% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (11) 52% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (6) 29% 21 total votes Your vote: Recommend SuperNova vs TY Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend SuperNova vs TY Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (10) 63% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 13% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend SuperNova vs TY Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6) 75% ★★★- Good game (1) 13% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 13% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 6% ★★★- Good game (1) 6% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (12) 75% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 13% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (1) 7% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (13) 87% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 7% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 14% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 29% ★★★- Good game (2) 29% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 29% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 43% ★★★- Good game (1) 14% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (2) 29% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 14% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 14% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (4) 57% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 14% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 14% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (3) 21% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (4) 29% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (5) 36% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 14% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (9) 82% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 18% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 29% ★★★- Good game (2) 29% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 14% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 29% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
Poll: Head?TRUE & TY (11) 37% SuperNova & TY (11) 37% TRUE & Choya (4) 13% SuperNova & Choya (2) 7% TRUE & SuperNova (1) 3% Choya & TY (1) 3% 30 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): TRUE & Choya
(Vote): TRUE & SuperNova
(Vote): TRUE & TY
(Vote): SuperNova & Choya
(Vote): SuperNova & TY
(Vote): Choya & TY
Poll: Heart?SuperNova & TY (14) 40% SuperNova & Choya (12) 34% Choya & TY (4) 11% TRUE & Choya (3) 9% TRUE & SuperNova (1) 3% TRUE & TY (1) 3% 35 total votes Your vote: Heart? (Vote): TRUE & Choya
(Vote): TRUE & SuperNova
(Vote): TRUE & TY
(Vote): SuperNova & Choya
(Vote): SuperNova & TY
(Vote): Choya & TY
Top 2 1st 2nd 3rd 4th
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SuperNova 67.59% 38.09% 29.50% 18.13% 14.28%
TY 52.51% 23.87% 28.64% 26.06% 21.43%
TRUE 47.04% 23.28% 23.75% 26.30% 26.66%
Choya 32.86% 14.76% 18.11% 29.51% 37.63%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
WCS Predictor 2014-  SuperNova is at ~ 1.17 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 60.29 % of the time SuperNova wins and their chances go up to ~ 1.78 %. ~ 39.71 % of the time SuperNova loses and their chances go down to ~ 0.24 %. ------------------------------------------------- - TY is at ~ 1.13 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 52.27 % of the time TY wins and their chances go up to ~ 1.96 %. ~ 47.73 % of the time TY loses and their chances go down to ~ 0.22 %. ------------------------------------------------- -  Choya is at ~ 0.01 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 38.54 % of the time Choya wins and their chances go up to ~ 0.02 %. ~ 61.46 % of the time Choya loses and their chances go down to ~ 0.00 %. ------------------------------------------------- -  TRUE is at ~ 0.19 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 48.90 % of the time TRUE wins and their chances go up to ~ 0.36 %. ~ 51.10 % of the time TRUE loses and their chances go down to ~ 0.04 %.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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This is the hardest group for me to choose two because i like all the players 
My head says TY/TRUE, but my heart says Choya/SuNo.
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
TYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY FIGHTING
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tough group for the bonjwa, there were definetely easier groups t.t
still rooting for exfxo
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If Choya goes to Code S I gift a TL+ to Lorning.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On April 17 2014 03:35 Aeromi wrote:
If Choya goes to Code S I gift a TL+ to Lorning.
You are too kind, Aeromi
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Time for TY to do some work.
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I believe a Nestea Award is won or lost tonight, no?
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United States23455 Posts
Choya gonna get rekt here. DOUBLE TERRAN
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
I set 3 alarm clocks for this: 5:55am, 6:00am and 6:07 am
But I should wake up 5 minutes before the first one 'cause biological clock/I'm psychic/Hype
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I'm really hoping TY and SuNo make it, but then again Choya the ladder bonjwa is awesome too
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Choya + TRUE would make a lot of people sad, haha.
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Guess Wolf will have a field day with Choya playing..
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Glad to see such a bias-free banner form you Lorning
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United States97275 Posts
Choya bonjwa alert. Easy group for him
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
Heart: TY 1st Choya 2nd though Supernova would be cool as well
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your Country52797 Posts
Supernova and Choya to advance imo
Reasoning: This is group I. None of the players have an I in their ID, so the advancing players must have similar letters. I is a very thin letter, so the players with the smallest letters should advance. TY and TRUE are all-caps, so their letters are larger on average.
So,
Choya 2-0 TRUE
TY 0-2 Supernova
Choya 1-2 Supernova
TRUE 1-2 TY
TY 0-2 Choya
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I am with majority, TY and Supernova. I just don't see other two advancing, except if both Terrans have a really bad day.
And Code S really needs more solid Terran players so I really hope for them.
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On April 17 2014 06:21 The_Templar wrote:
Supernova and Choya to advance imo
Reasoning: This is group I. None of the players have an I in their ID, so the advancing players must have similar letters. I is a very thin letter, so the players with the smallest letters should advance. TY and TRUE are all-caps, so their letters are larger on average.
So,
Choya 2-0 TRUE
TY 0-2 Supernova
Choya 1-2 Supernova
TRUE 1-2 TY
TY 0-2 Choya
Artosis pronounces TY "tie."
With an "i."
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your Country52797 Posts
On April 17 2014 09:07 pure.Wasted wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 06:21 The_Templar wrote:
Supernova and Choya to advance imo
Reasoning: This is group I. None of the players have an I in their ID, so the advancing players must have similar letters. I is a very thin letter, so the players with the smallest letters should advance. TY and TRUE are all-caps, so their letters are larger on average.
So,
Choya 2-0 TRUE
TY 0-2 Supernova
Choya 1-2 Supernova
TRUE 1-2 TY
TY 0-2 Choya Artosis pronounces TY "tie." With an "i."
OK then, if Artosis is casting, the results will be:
Choya 2-0 TRUE
TY 2-1 Supernova
TY 2-1 Choya
TRUE 0-2 Supernova
Choya 1-2 Supernova
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If Choya loses, will he retire again?
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United States97275 Posts
Why would he? He's the ace of Prime
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Let's go Choya/Supernova!
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
Gogo choya and supernova!
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Gentlemen, gentlemen. We're all fans of Prime here, but be reasonable. TRUE needs to get into Code S.
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On April 17 2014 12:48 pure.Wasted wrote:
Gentlemen, gentlemen. We're all fans of Prime here, but be reasonable. TRUE needs to get into Code S.
Only if Fantasy goes with him.
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On April 17 2014 12:49 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 12:48 pure.Wasted wrote:
Gentlemen, gentlemen. We're all fans of Prime here, but be reasonable. TRUE needs to get into Code S. Only if Fantasy goes with him.
Obviously, Fantasy playing first would have been ideal. But that was not for us to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the bracket that is given to us.
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Choya sounded pretty confident in PvZ in his last interview. I wonder what he's got for us today >_>
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How did Choya even qualify? Anyway, TYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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Prime jerseys so fresh.
GO CHOYA!!
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
nOOOOOOOOOOO, its not a choya gate.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
2 base 4 gate pressure
Macro with a bit of Choya
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United States97275 Posts
worst sentry control code a TT
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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bad wall ins must be like the #1 cause of toss losses lol
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Choya needs to start singing to himself
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New strat. Zealot pressure transition into zergling pressure. Very interesting.
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United States97275 Posts
I still believe in choya. look at the worker count. he can do it
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That sucks that he lost those 4 sentries at the beginning.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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United States97275 Posts
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Choya just can't translate his ladder play to tournaments
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Canada16217 Posts
On April 17 2014 13:07 stuchiu wrote:
Yes its a 4 gate!!!!!!!
woah we saw a 4 gate????
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Well, choya being terrible is a hope that a terran will advance, at least
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On April 17 2014 13:13 NovemberstOrm wrote:woah we saw a 4 gate????
4 gate after nexus. Then he died.
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Meh Choya just doesn't belong in Code S. Still impressive as hell that he made it this far
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
TRUE is maxed on hydra ling. Maybe if he can get out enough collosi...
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
Poll: Recommend TRUE vs Choya Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (3) 30% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6) 60% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend TRUE vs Choya Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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United States97275 Posts
there have been some bad stomps in code a this season
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On April 17 2014 13:16 Lorning wrote:
TRUE is maxed on hydra ling. Maybe if he can get out enough collosi...
Don't doubt the best zerg comp aside from masses of slow lings popping between 10 and 20 supply
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I still don't know whether I'd rather have two terrans advance, or two TvTs
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
I wish there was someone on Prime that could teach Choya how to be clutch.
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Let's see if he can have a proper wall this time.
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On April 17 2014 13:18 stuchiu wrote:
I wish there was someone on Prime that could teach Choya how to be clutch.
Polt! Oh wait damn
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United States97275 Posts
On April 17 2014 13:18 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 13:18 stuchiu wrote:
I wish there was someone on Prime that could teach Choya how to be clutch. Polt! Oh wait damn
TerrOr
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On April 17 2014 13:19 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 13:18 Yorkie wrote:On April 17 2014 13:18 stuchiu wrote:
I wish there was someone on Prime that could teach Choya how to be clutch. Polt! Oh wait damn TerrOr
Byun?
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On April 17 2014 13:20 myxoma_strain wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 13:19 Shellshock wrote:On April 17 2014 13:18 Yorkie wrote:On April 17 2014 13:18 stuchiu wrote:
I wish there was someone on Prime that could teach Choya how to be clutch. Polt! Oh wait damn TerrOr Byun?
He can teach Choya how to be invisible, which may have helped with that hidden base last game
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On April 17 2014 13:20 myxoma_strain wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 13:19 Shellshock wrote:On April 17 2014 13:18 Yorkie wrote:On April 17 2014 13:18 stuchiu wrote:
I wish there was someone on Prime that could teach Choya how to be clutch. Polt! Oh wait damn TerrOr Byun?
where is Byun?
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ugh twitch lagging even on high
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United States97275 Posts
the good news is at least it won't take long for the tvt and then for Choya to beat both terrans to advance with TRUE
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
This is going waaaay better already
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On April 17 2014 13:21 Topin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 13:20 myxoma_strain wrote:On April 17 2014 13:19 Shellshock wrote:On April 17 2014 13:18 Yorkie wrote:On April 17 2014 13:18 stuchiu wrote:
I wish there was someone on Prime that could teach Choya how to be clutch. Polt! Oh wait damn TerrOr Byun? where is Byun?
He's off the grid like Rust was in True Detective.
Byun: It's all one ghetto man, giant gutter in outer space.
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Canada16217 Posts
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United States97275 Posts
Trying to decide if Choya or Tassadar had the worst performance. I guess Tassadar's proxy gate takes the cake
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Choya is a very relateable player, his games look a lot like mine when I used to play!
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
INCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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Choya has 2x the workers!
YAHHHH!
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Canada16217 Posts
could have been handled better but it doesn't matter
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Australia18228 Posts
On April 17 2014 13:27 stuchiu wrote:
INCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Can't be... there's no Archons
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The follow up soooooooul train!
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
INCA CAME BACK FROM HELL TO SAVE HIS FRIEND WHEN HE NEEDED HIM MOST
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United States97275 Posts
choya pulling out all the stops tonight
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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It's pretty hilarious how close the DTs are making this game. Protoss, never change.
Except immediately.
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United States97275 Posts
On April 17 2014 13:29 Lorning wrote:
No Choya, kill him
Wolf said he plays good macro games
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I love it when zergs use contaminate
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How do they decide the first map in GSL? I think it's loser pick for 2nd and 3rd, is 1st random with vetoes?
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Does True not like Spore and Spine Crawlers?
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United States97275 Posts
hooray he saw the ultralisk cavern and dropped the 2nd robo
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
oh god, True isnt throwing.
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I'm sure Choya knows that infestor ling vs. Toss turns into ultra/infestor/ling. With double robo he can get immortals really quick
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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United States97275 Posts
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Choya only down by 10 probes and up in army supply. True never got to that 80 drone level
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
This was way better, Choya
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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Only 54 drones jesus True how are you alive
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Can someone check if TRUE's keyboard is working? I'm noticing a distinct lack of banelings
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I can't seem to be able to vote "Don't see this game no matter what" for game 2. Tech support help!!!
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Canada16217 Posts
Mutalisks won't save you now TRUE.
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On April 17 2014 13:35 Yorkie wrote:
Only 54 drones jesus True how are you alive
The answer? He's not
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
Poll: Recommend TRUE vs Choya Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (3) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 25% ★★★- Good game (6) 50% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend TRUE vs Choya Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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I hope both Terrans advance
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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Aww Choya where's the bandana?
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Looking good for the terrans :D
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United States97275 Posts
unless I missed something on Aligulac this is actually the first map Choya has taken in the GSL since the Super Tournament in 2011. He got to Code A since then but was 2-0d
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On April 17 2014 13:37 imrusty269 wrote:
Looking good for the terrans :D
Cheer for Choya, you Prime fan
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Hmm I doubt he would pick Overgrowth. Seems faaairly strong for toss vs zerg
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On April 17 2014 13:36 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend TRUE vs Choya Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (3) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 25% ★★★- Good game (6) 50% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend TRUE vs Choya Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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On April 17 2014 13:38 Shellshock wrote:
unless I missed something on Aligulac this is actually the first map Choya has taken in the GSL since the Super Tournament in 2011. He got to Code A since then but was 2-0d
Choya too tenacious to give up.
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On April 17 2014 13:38 Lorning wrote:Cheer for Choya, you Prime fan
Your flair says Choya but your sig says TRUE
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On April 17 2014 13:39 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 13:38 Lorning wrote:On April 17 2014 13:37 imrusty269 wrote:
Looking good for the terrans :D Cheer for Choya, you Prime fan Your flair says Choya but your sig says TRUE
My sig has been a travesty for a while now
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On April 17 2014 13:39 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 13:38 Shellshock wrote:
unless I missed something on Aligulac this is actually the first map Choya has taken in the GSL since the Super Tournament in 2011. He got to Code A since then but was 2-0d Choya too tenacious to give up.
The last time Choya beat someone in one of the Gom studios in a non preseason game was when inori still played
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On April 17 2014 13:38 Lorning wrote:Cheer for Choya, you Prime fan
Quintessential "letter of the law" vs. "spirit of the law" debate.
TERRAN OVER CHOYA!
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There we go makes more sense for True to pick KSS
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On April 17 2014 13:38 Shellshock wrote:
unless I missed something on Aligulac this is actually the first map Choya has taken in the GSL since the Super Tournament in 2011. He got to Code A since then but was 2-0d
Woah thats crazy, he was 0-2/0-4 each time?
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On April 17 2014 13:41 vult wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 13:38 Shellshock wrote:
unless I missed something on Aligulac this is actually the first map Choya has taken in the GSL since the Super Tournament in 2011. He got to Code A since then but was 2-0d Woah thats crazy, he was 0-2/0-4 each time?
They were just the single elim brackets. Last time he was in Code A was in Season 2 2012 where he got 2-0d in the first round by IM.Happy. Then he lost 0-2 in GSL July Code A to CheckPrime
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On April 17 2014 13:41 vult wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 13:38 Shellshock wrote:
unless I missed something on Aligulac this is actually the first map Choya has taken in the GSL since the Super Tournament in 2011. He got to Code A since then but was 2-0d Woah thats crazy, he was 0-2/0-4 each time?
Tonight is how Choya plays during Protoss's most dominant era.
Are you honestly so surprised that this guy went 0-4 in Code A? Lol.
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On April 17 2014 13:38 Shellshock wrote:
unless I missed something on Aligulac this is actually the first map Choya has taken in the GSL since the Super Tournament in 2011. He got to Code A since then but was 2-0d
Something about Prime is helping, maybe it's that he's a player-coach instead of running the team?
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On April 17 2014 13:42 pure.Wasted wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 13:41 vult wrote:On April 17 2014 13:38 Shellshock wrote:
unless I missed something on Aligulac this is actually the first map Choya has taken in the GSL since the Super Tournament in 2011. He got to Code A since then but was 2-0d Woah thats crazy, he was 0-2/0-4 each time? Tonight is how Choya plays during Protoss's most dominant era. Are you honestly so surprised that this guy went 0-4 in Code A? Lol.
Hardly why he won, TRUE had bad defense against Choya's harass, had little to do with balance.
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Hmm this is what I would've expected if True picked Overgrowth, but I guess this works too
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Things that have happened to Choya since the last time he won a GSL main tournament match: lost to iNcontroL at MLG, eliminated Jinro in a GSL qualifier, won 2 GSTLs as coach, beat MarineKing in HoTS, retired as a player, come back from retirement, lose all his appearances in proleague. I'm sure there are more
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On April 17 2014 13:43 NovemberstOrm wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 13:42 pure.Wasted wrote:On April 17 2014 13:41 vult wrote:On April 17 2014 13:38 Shellshock wrote:
unless I missed something on Aligulac this is actually the first map Choya has taken in the GSL since the Super Tournament in 2011. He got to Code A since then but was 2-0d Woah thats crazy, he was 0-2/0-4 each time? Tonight is how Choya plays during Protoss's most dominant era. Are you honestly so surprised that this guy went 0-4 in Code A? Lol. Hardly why he won, TRUE had bad defense against Choya's harass, had little to do with balance.
Nonono, I'm just saying the dude is obviously getting outclassed.
Discovering that before Protoss dominance he would get eliminated 0-4 isn't much of a shocker for me.
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On April 17 2014 13:44 Shellshock wrote:
Things that have happened to Choya since the last time he won a GSL main tournament match: lost to iNcontroL at MLG, eliminated Jinro in a GSL qualifier, won 2 GSTLs as coach, beat MarineKing in HoTS, retired as a player, come back from retirement, lose all his appearances in proleague. I'm sure there are more
Beat Hurricane in HOTS
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Oh god. Choya just love letting lings in
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On April 17 2014 13:44 Shellshock wrote:
Things that have happened to Choya since the last time he won a GSL main tournament match: lost to iNcontroL at MLG, eliminated Jinro in a GSL qualifier, won 2 GSTLs as coach, beat MarineKing in HoTS, retired as a player, come back from retirement, lose all his appearances in proleague. I'm sure there are more
Got destroyed by a Jinro nuke at an MLG
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On April 17 2014 13:44 Shellshock wrote:
Things that have happened to Choya since the last time he won a GSL main tournament match: lost to iNcontroL at MLG, eliminated Jinro in a GSL qualifier, won 2 GSTLs as coach, beat MarineKing in HoTS, retired as a player, come back from retirement, lose all his appearances in proleague. I'm sure there are more
This reminds me of the old "events that have happened during the development of Duke Nukem Forever" pictures lol
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On April 17 2014 13:46 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 13:44 Shellshock wrote:
Things that have happened to Choya since the last time he won a GSL main tournament match: lost to iNcontroL at MLG, eliminated Jinro in a GSL qualifier, won 2 GSTLs as coach, beat MarineKing in HoTS, retired as a player, come back from retirement, lose all his appearances in proleague. I'm sure there are more Got destroyed by a Jinro nuke at an MLG
oh yea that's in the time frame but he still won the bo3 vs Jinro 2-1
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Well this isn't such a great start for Choya lollll
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Last time Choya won an offline map not in a tournament's prelims was February 17, 2013 vs TerrOr in the GSTL Preseason
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On April 17 2014 13:46 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 13:46 Yorkie wrote:On April 17 2014 13:44 Shellshock wrote:
Things that have happened to Choya since the last time he won a GSL main tournament match: lost to iNcontroL at MLG, eliminated Jinro in a GSL qualifier, won 2 GSTLs as coach, beat MarineKing in HoTS, retired as a player, come back from retirement, lose all his appearances in proleague. I'm sure there are more Got destroyed by a Jinro nuke at an MLG oh yea that's in the time frame but he still won the bo3 vs Jinro 2-1
Yeah but that one loss...
Day[9]: Ooooooohhh! Oh no! Oh no Choya! OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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95 lings vs 10 stalkers. Hmmmmm
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Welp on to the next series.
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On April 17 2014 13:48 stuchiu wrote:
95 lings vs 10 stalkers. Hmmmmm
if only the stalkers could shoot lazers
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(((
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Poll: Recommend TRUE vs Choya Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 40% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4) 40% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 10% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend TRUE vs Choya Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
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(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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I don't get why Choya doesn't just play solid, no need to go for these weird attacks
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On April 17 2014 13:49 Yorkie wrote:
I don't get why Choya doesn't just play solid, no need to go for these weird attacks
his old roots are still influencing him
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all of a sudden I'm worried for supernova.
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On April 17 2014 13:49 Yorkie wrote:
I don't get why Choya doesn't just play solid, no need to go for these weird attacks
He suffers from TheBest syndrome.
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On April 17 2014 13:49 Yorkie wrote:
I don't get why Choya doesn't just play solid, no need to go for these weird attacks
Based on this series my guess is he doesn't trust his multitasking. With good reason.
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Now for some real games
gogo SuNo
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On April 17 2014 13:51 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Now for some real games
gogo SuNo
time for a 2-1 with 3 build order losses
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On April 17 2014 13:50 pure.Wasted wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 13:49 Yorkie wrote:
I don't get why Choya doesn't just play solid, no need to go for these weird attacks Based on this series my guess is he doesn't trust his multitasking. With good reason.
He won when the game went later. Obviously not solely because of his multitasking, but he'd be much better off going for a strong 2 base all-in or going to three bases then a weird 1.5 base blink "attack"
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How does he pass the qualifier rounds with that execution. At least Huk completely blocks his natural with buildings when he moves out.
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I hope SuNo can get out of this group
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On April 17 2014 13:54 usethis2 wrote:
How does he pass the qualifier rounds with that execution
The same way Tassadar did I suppose
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Choya beat Action and Hurricane in the qualifiers. Action qualified for the GSL Global Championships.
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On Liquipedia, Supernova is listed as having an active Code S streak of 9. This IS a group for the Nestea Award, isn't it?
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On April 17 2014 13:56 Shellshock wrote:
Choya beat Action and Hurricane in the qualifiers. Action qualified for the GSL Global Championships.
_ _ _ also beat _ _ _ _ _ _ _. What are you gonna do?
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I want both of these guys to advance.
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holy shit, are we actually about to see a TvT??? I've heard legends of this matchup before...
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On April 17 2014 13:57 Circumstance wrote:
On Liquipedia, Supernova is listed as having an active Code S streak of 9. This IS a group for the Nestea Award, isn't it?
His streak of 9 was stopped when he failed to qualify for Code S in GSL S5 2012 where he played a really nice TvT against Flash in the up and downs but then fucked up against the other players
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On April 17 2014 13:57 Circumstance wrote:
On Liquipedia, Supernova is listed as having an active Code S streak of 9. This IS a group for the Nestea Award, isn't it?
That's old, he lost his chance for NesTea award awhile ago (IIRC he was one game away)
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On April 17 2014 13:57 pure.Wasted wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 13:56 Shellshock wrote:
Choya beat Action and Hurricane in the qualifiers. Action qualified for the GSL Global Championships. _ _ _ also beat _ _ _ _ _ _ _. What are you gonna do?
? people were asking how he got through the qualifiers. I was just naming who he beat
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On April 17 2014 13:57 Circumstance wrote:
On Liquipedia, Supernova is listed as having an active Code S streak of 9. This IS a group for the Nestea Award, isn't it?
No that's outdated. Supernova has been in code S since s3 of 2013 to begin his streak anew from what I can see.
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Alright, even the GSL voiceover man pronounces it "Tee wai" - that settles it, it's not "tie".
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On April 17 2014 13:58 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 13:57 pure.Wasted wrote:On April 17 2014 13:56 Shellshock wrote:
Choya beat Action and Hurricane in the qualifiers. Action qualified for the GSL Global Championships. _ _ _ also beat _ _ _ _ _ _ _. What are you gonna do? ? people were asking how he got through the qualifiers. I was just naming who he beat
He an sc2 elitist who is just shit talking Choya. Don't worry about it
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On April 17 2014 13:58 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 13:57 pure.Wasted wrote:On April 17 2014 13:56 Shellshock wrote:
Choya beat Action and Hurricane in the qualifiers. Action qualified for the GSL Global Championships. _ _ _ also beat _ _ _ _ _ _ _. What are you gonna do? ? people were asking how he got through the qualifiers. I was just naming who he beat
Yeah, and I'm just saying "shit happens." Like Has owning Jaedong.
edit: I think this is coming off ruder to you than I intended. Sorry for that. Hm.
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I like how TY assumed Supernova would go into the main, but he just stood around the natural killing 7 scvs.
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Not a single post about the game in four minutes. TvT killing esports.
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SuperNova probably has the best Banshee-micro while macroing
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Still blows my mind that Supernova doesn't have a team. He's such a consistently good player.
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Nice damage, but great control from TY too.
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This one banshee has 16 kills.
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On April 17 2014 14:06 Ben... wrote:
Still blows my mind that Supernova doesn't have a team. He's such a consistently good player.
I think I heard he might be looking for a foreign team again. Might not be anyone out there right now willing to fly him around to foreign stuff
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On April 17 2014 14:05 pure.Wasted wrote:
Not a single post about the game in four minutes. TvT killing esports.
GomTvT days still haunt some of us
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TY's 3 cloaked banshees did less than Supernova's 1 banshee.
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HUGE supply block for both players.
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On April 17 2014 14:07 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:06 Ben... wrote:
Still blows my mind that Supernova doesn't have a team. He's such a consistently good player. I think I heard he might be looking for a foreign team again. Might not be anyone out there right now willing to fly him around to foreign stuff
Liquid pls
man....
I think supernova + liquid has been wanted since he first left oGs
It makes me so sad that it hasn't happened yet
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i dont like the 3rd bases in this map in this position
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On April 17 2014 14:07 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:06 Ben... wrote:
Still blows my mind that Supernova doesn't have a team. He's such a consistently good player. I think I heard he might be looking for a foreign team again. Might not be anyone out there right now willing to fly him around to foreign stuff
Hopefully things work out for him and the timing lines up for him to eventually replace Taeja.
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seeing mech vs bio on this tile set really is bringing back the old days.
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On April 17 2014 14:08 GTPGlitch wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:07 Shellshock wrote:On April 17 2014 14:06 Ben... wrote:
Still blows my mind that Supernova doesn't have a team. He's such a consistently good player. I think I heard he might be looking for a foreign team again. Might not be anyone out there right now willing to fly him around to foreign stuff Liquid pls man.... I think supernova + liquid has been wanted since he first left oGs It makes me so sad that it hasn't happened yet
Liquid needs a Korean zerg to replace Zenio though. May I suggest...Kanghooooooo
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On April 17 2014 14:07 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:06 Ben... wrote:
Still blows my mind that Supernova doesn't have a team. He's such a consistently good player. I think I heard he might be looking for a foreign team again. Might not be anyone out there right now willing to fly him around to foreign stuff
I figured that would be the case. A while ago I thought I had heard he was in talks with a couple teams but that mustn't have been the case or they fell through or something. Still, he definitely needs a team. He's so good.
I want him on Liquid too. I'm sure a lot of people do.
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I assume those SCVs were on a bad rally point?
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Poll: Recommend SuperNova vs TY Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 25% ★★★- Good game (3) 38% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (3) 38% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend SuperNova vs TY Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
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On April 17 2014 14:11 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:08 GTPGlitch wrote:On April 17 2014 14:07 Shellshock wrote:On April 17 2014 14:06 Ben... wrote:
Still blows my mind that Supernova doesn't have a team. He's such a consistently good player. I think I heard he might be looking for a foreign team again. Might not be anyone out there right now willing to fly him around to foreign stuff Liquid pls man.... I think supernova + liquid has been wanted since he first left oGs It makes me so sad that it hasn't happened yet Liquid needs a Korean zerg to replace Zenio though. May I suggest...Kanghooooooo
Kangho is the second person on Kespa's MIA list.
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On April 17 2014 14:11 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend SuperNova vs TY Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 25% ★★★- Good game (3) 38% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (3) 38% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend SuperNova vs TY Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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On April 17 2014 14:11 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:08 GTPGlitch wrote:On April 17 2014 14:07 Shellshock wrote:On April 17 2014 14:06 Ben... wrote:
Still blows my mind that Supernova doesn't have a team. He's such a consistently good player. I think I heard he might be looking for a foreign team again. Might not be anyone out there right now willing to fly him around to foreign stuff Liquid pls man.... I think supernova + liquid has been wanted since he first left oGs It makes me so sad that it hasn't happened yet Liquid needs a Korean zerg to replace Zenio though. May I suggest...Kanghooooooo
ewwwwwwwwww
only a good zerg pls (Liquid'Ragnarok gogo) ;o
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On April 17 2014 14:12 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:11 Yorkie wrote:On April 17 2014 14:08 GTPGlitch wrote:On April 17 2014 14:07 Shellshock wrote:On April 17 2014 14:06 Ben... wrote:
Still blows my mind that Supernova doesn't have a team. He's such a consistently good player. I think I heard he might be looking for a foreign team again. Might not be anyone out there right now willing to fly him around to foreign stuff Liquid pls man.... I think supernova + liquid has been wanted since he first left oGs It makes me so sad that it hasn't happened yet Liquid needs a Korean zerg to replace Zenio though. May I suggest...Kanghooooooo Kangho is the second person on Kespa's MIA list.
at least he shows up to his qualifier games and beat Liquid HerO 2-0
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On April 17 2014 14:12 GTPGlitch wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:11 Yorkie wrote:On April 17 2014 14:08 GTPGlitch wrote:On April 17 2014 14:07 Shellshock wrote:On April 17 2014 14:06 Ben... wrote:
Still blows my mind that Supernova doesn't have a team. He's such a consistently good player. I think I heard he might be looking for a foreign team again. Might not be anyone out there right now willing to fly him around to foreign stuff Liquid pls man.... I think supernova + liquid has been wanted since he first left oGs It makes me so sad that it hasn't happened yet Liquid needs a Korean zerg to replace Zenio though. May I suggest...Kanghooooooo ewwwwwwwwww only a good zerg pls (Liquid'Ragnarok gogo) ;o
What ever happened to the rumors of Symbol and Mill? I guess that ended up not being true?
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On April 17 2014 14:12 GTPGlitch wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:11 Yorkie wrote:On April 17 2014 14:08 GTPGlitch wrote:On April 17 2014 14:07 Shellshock wrote:On April 17 2014 14:06 Ben... wrote:
Still blows my mind that Supernova doesn't have a team. He's such a consistently good player. I think I heard he might be looking for a foreign team again. Might not be anyone out there right now willing to fly him around to foreign stuff Liquid pls man.... I think supernova + liquid has been wanted since he first left oGs It makes me so sad that it hasn't happened yet Liquid needs a Korean zerg to replace Zenio though. May I suggest...Kanghooooooo ewwwwwwwwww only a good zerg pls (Liquid'Ragnarok gogo) ;o
Fk you he'd be in the GSL Global Qualifier if he didn't lose to Roro 2-1
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On April 17 2014 14:13 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:12 GTPGlitch wrote:On April 17 2014 14:11 Yorkie wrote:On April 17 2014 14:08 GTPGlitch wrote:On April 17 2014 14:07 Shellshock wrote:On April 17 2014 14:06 Ben... wrote:
Still blows my mind that Supernova doesn't have a team. He's such a consistently good player. I think I heard he might be looking for a foreign team again. Might not be anyone out there right now willing to fly him around to foreign stuff Liquid pls man.... I think supernova + liquid has been wanted since he first left oGs It makes me so sad that it hasn't happened yet Liquid needs a Korean zerg to replace Zenio though. May I suggest...Kanghooooooo ewwwwwwwwww only a good zerg pls (Liquid'Ragnarok gogo) ;o What ever happened to the rumors of Symbol and Mill? I guess that ended up not being true?
They wanted him as joker, but then the joker thing ended for ATC?
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On April 17 2014 14:12 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:12 stuchiu wrote:On April 17 2014 14:11 Yorkie wrote:On April 17 2014 14:08 GTPGlitch wrote:On April 17 2014 14:07 Shellshock wrote:On April 17 2014 14:06 Ben... wrote:
Still blows my mind that Supernova doesn't have a team. He's such a consistently good player. I think I heard he might be looking for a foreign team again. Might not be anyone out there right now willing to fly him around to foreign stuff Liquid pls man.... I think supernova + liquid has been wanted since he first left oGs It makes me so sad that it hasn't happened yet Liquid needs a Korean zerg to replace Zenio though. May I suggest...Kanghooooooo Kangho is the second person on Kespa's MIA list. at least he shows up to his qualifier games and beat Liquid HerO 2-0
He beats a ton of people in qualifiers, he came within one game of making the finals of his bracket in GSL Global Qualifier and within one game of making it to LSC 3 (both ZvZ)
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Plus Kangho is higher on ladder than even Choya. He is almost always the highest ranked player not under a barcode and hovers around rank 25-30. That doesn't sound so invisible to me. He is the anti Byun
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On April 17 2014 14:13 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:12 GTPGlitch wrote:On April 17 2014 14:11 Yorkie wrote:On April 17 2014 14:08 GTPGlitch wrote:On April 17 2014 14:07 Shellshock wrote:On April 17 2014 14:06 Ben... wrote:
Still blows my mind that Supernova doesn't have a team. He's such a consistently good player. I think I heard he might be looking for a foreign team again. Might not be anyone out there right now willing to fly him around to foreign stuff Liquid pls man.... I think supernova + liquid has been wanted since he first left oGs It makes me so sad that it hasn't happened yet Liquid needs a Korean zerg to replace Zenio though. May I suggest...Kanghooooooo ewwwwwwwwww only a good zerg pls (Liquid'Ragnarok gogo) ;o What ever happened to the rumors of Symbol and Mill? I guess that ended up not being true?
i guess that was just part of the
rumor mill
YEAAAAAAAAAAh
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who is Kangho? I have never heard of that player
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On April 17 2014 14:15 GTPGlitch wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:13 Shellshock wrote:On April 17 2014 14:12 GTPGlitch wrote:On April 17 2014 14:11 Yorkie wrote:On April 17 2014 14:08 GTPGlitch wrote:On April 17 2014 14:07 Shellshock wrote:On April 17 2014 14:06 Ben... wrote:
Still blows my mind that Supernova doesn't have a team. He's such a consistently good player. I think I heard he might be looking for a foreign team again. Might not be anyone out there right now willing to fly him around to foreign stuff Liquid pls man.... I think supernova + liquid has been wanted since he first left oGs It makes me so sad that it hasn't happened yet Liquid needs a Korean zerg to replace Zenio though. May I suggest...Kanghooooooo ewwwwwwwwww only a good zerg pls (Liquid'Ragnarok gogo) ;o What ever happened to the rumors of Symbol and Mill? I guess that ended up not being true? i guess that was just part of the rumor mill YEAAAAAAAAAAh
Wow those sunglasses you just put on, are they Raybans or Oakleys?
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Supernova sure does love his spidermines.
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On April 17 2014 14:16 Shellshock wrote:
who is Kangho? I have never heard of that player
Fk you LOSIRA is the shit and you wish prime would pick him up
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There was one guy in the LR who always always hated Losira. He has disappeared. Did you kill him Yorkie?
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On April 17 2014 14:17 stuchiu wrote:
There was one guy in the LR who always always hated Losira. He has disappeared. Did you kill him Yorkie?
I'm still here
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Hahhahahaha, this is soooooo Supernova. Hahahhahahahah
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good early game control again. Now SuNo needs to not shit his brains out his ears xD
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On April 17 2014 14:17 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:17 stuchiu wrote:
There was one guy in the LR who always always hated Losira. He has disappeared. Did you kill him Yorkie? I'm still here
guy, not robot~
E: damn that redivac
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This is how Suno always plays when he's on his game. What an awesome player.
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The most Supernova tactic possible, micro 2 marines, a mine and 2 hellions at the same time.
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On April 17 2014 14:17 stuchiu wrote:
There was one guy in the LR who always always hated Losira. He has disappeared. Did you kill him Yorkie?
His name was Darkhoarse. He is no more
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On April 17 2014 14:13 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:12 GTPGlitch wrote:On April 17 2014 14:11 Yorkie wrote:On April 17 2014 14:08 GTPGlitch wrote:On April 17 2014 14:07 Shellshock wrote:On April 17 2014 14:06 Ben... wrote:
Still blows my mind that Supernova doesn't have a team. He's such a consistently good player. I think I heard he might be looking for a foreign team again. Might not be anyone out there right now willing to fly him around to foreign stuff Liquid pls man.... I think supernova + liquid has been wanted since he first left oGs It makes me so sad that it hasn't happened yet Liquid needs a Korean zerg to replace Zenio though. May I suggest...Kanghooooooo ewwwwwwwwww only a good zerg pls (Liquid'Ragnarok gogo) ;o What ever happened to the rumors of Symbol and Mill? I guess that ended up not being true?
On April 11 2014 02:51 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2014 02:42 NovaMB wrote:On April 11 2014 02:40 Aeromi wrote:On April 11 2014 02:39 NovaMB wrote:On April 11 2014 02:39 Aeromi wrote:On April 11 2014 02:32 NovaMB wrote:
You'd think low CPM would be better than no CPM, guess not. Also I keep thinking Portuguese is spelled wrong, but Google keeps saying its correct Well, if they start streaming on Twitch they'll go bankrupt in less a year. And Millenium SC2 manager is trying to close the SC2 team, French are fucked. But now they arent doing anything ? I dont understand. Which structure ? O'GamingTV or Millenium ? No idea who would be doing the WCS cast. I understand that they want to use DM to cast, because of the higher CPM, but I dont understand how no show would be better than a show on twitch with low CPM. Especially since its via clean feed and you dont really need a production crew to do it I'm going to summarize the whole problem. First, aAa received to right to stream last year WCS but it was awful, sorry zidwait if you read me. This year, aAa, O'GamingTV and Millenium agreed on a partnership because O'GamingTV and Millenium have a studio on Paris, they can cast together and everything would be great. But ESL refused to let the French alliance to stream it on Dailymotion. Then, ToD tried to stream WCS but he was told not to do so because a big company, most likely Dailymotion to be honest, was talking with ESL. Moreover, Millenium and O'Gaming had several meetings with Blizzard in Versailles but none of them was really succesfull. There is an issue in France with Twitch, it's awful if you have the wrong ISP. And there is also a major issue, there is no ad between 14:00 and 00:00 CEST in France and Poland, it's weird but it's true. So, there is another problem, Llewellys wants to drop SC2 because the game is not that succesfull compared to LoL. Then, O'GamingTV/aAa/Millenium want to produce a great show. There are 4 casters working for O'GamingTV, one for Millenium and one for aAa. But there is a whole crew behind O'GamingTV which is favored to host the French broadcast because it's more friendly, there are huge sofas, beers... And with Twitch they can't afford this type of show, they want to produce a show with a great quality not a cast on a room with only two casters.
Also this
On April 17 2014 00:10 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 00:06 Otolia wrote:On April 17 2014 00:05 GumBa wrote:On April 17 2014 00:04 Otolia wrote:On April 17 2014 00:03 GumBa wrote:
If Millenium had a Zerg they could be like top 5 foreign team When Millenium had a full line-up they got a good results in team-league. Alas ... ForGG Dayshi BBK (Insert zerg preferbally korean) Wouldnt be bad Don't speak no more. We, Millenium fans, have been crying over a good korean zergs for a LONG TIME. You just don't know the pain. Symbol, HyuN are good friends of the manager but And Symbol wants to join Millenium but Llewellys does not agree. T_T
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On April 17 2014 14:17 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:17 stuchiu wrote:
There was one guy in the LR who always always hated Losira. He has disappeared. Did you kill him Yorkie? I'm still here
Don't make me quote your PM's about how you wish he was on Prime
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Terran doesn't have enough micro opportunities.
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On April 17 2014 14:20 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:17 Shellshock wrote:On April 17 2014 14:17 stuchiu wrote:
There was one guy in the LR who always always hated Losira. He has disappeared. Did you kill him Yorkie? I'm still here Don't make me quote your PM's about how you wish he was on Prime
What a monster
I would've never thought he would say such a thing
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Hhahahahahaha, what a coordinated attack. Banshee harass in main, then nat, then hellion drop coordinated back into the main with the banshee.
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SICK bait by Supernova. Wow.
I laugh in the general direction of other MUs
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On April 17 2014 14:20 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:20 Yorkie wrote:On April 17 2014 14:17 Shellshock wrote:On April 17 2014 14:17 stuchiu wrote:
There was one guy in the LR who always always hated Losira. He has disappeared. Did you kill him Yorkie? I'm still here Don't make me quote your PM's about how you wish he was on Prime What a monster I would've never thought he would say such a thing
Oh c'mon why do you hate him? He's better than your zergs, he was never on Startale, and I would cheer for Prime in every match besides vs. STIM if he joined. That's a hell of a bargain for you
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On April 17 2014 14:20 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:20 Yorkie wrote:On April 17 2014 14:17 Shellshock wrote:On April 17 2014 14:17 stuchiu wrote:
There was one guy in the LR who always always hated Losira. He has disappeared. Did you kill him Yorkie? I'm still here Don't make me quote your PM's about how you wish he was on Prime What a monster I would've never thought he would say such a thing
MvpPrime
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On April 17 2014 14:22 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:20 Lorning wrote:On April 17 2014 14:20 Yorkie wrote:On April 17 2014 14:17 Shellshock wrote:On April 17 2014 14:17 stuchiu wrote:
There was one guy in the LR who always always hated Losira. He has disappeared. Did you kill him Yorkie? I'm still here Don't make me quote your PM's about how you wish he was on Prime What a monster I would've never thought he would say such a thing Oh c'mon why do you hate him? He's better than your zergs, he was never on Startale, and I would cheer for Prime in every match besides vs. STIM if he joined. That's a hell of a bargain for you
he's not bad. I like him better than all the TSL zergs
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On April 17 2014 14:22 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:20 Lorning wrote:On April 17 2014 14:20 Yorkie wrote:On April 17 2014 14:17 Shellshock wrote:On April 17 2014 14:17 stuchiu wrote:
There was one guy in the LR who always always hated Losira. He has disappeared. Did you kill him Yorkie? I'm still here Don't make me quote your PM's about how you wish he was on Prime What a monster I would've never thought he would say such a thing MvpPrime
Would rather see MMAPrime, and I know you would too
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This reminds me of that one game Byun played on that stupid 3 player map. Xelnaga fortress?
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On April 17 2014 14:23 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:22 Yorkie wrote:On April 17 2014 14:20 Lorning wrote:On April 17 2014 14:20 Yorkie wrote:On April 17 2014 14:17 Shellshock wrote:On April 17 2014 14:17 stuchiu wrote:
There was one guy in the LR who always always hated Losira. He has disappeared. Did you kill him Yorkie? I'm still here Don't make me quote your PM's about how you wish he was on Prime What a monster I would've never thought he would say such a thing Oh c'mon why do you hate him? He's better than your zergs, he was never on Startale, and I would cheer for Prime in every match besides vs. STIM if he joined. That's a hell of a bargain for you he's not bad. I like him better than all the TSL zergs
This conversation just went full circle. It started with a TSL Zerg being compared to Losira.
what
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On April 17 2014 14:23 stuchiu wrote:
This reminds me of that one game Byun played on that stupid 3 player map. Xelnaga fortress?
One of the maps that facilitated Tassadar's run to the Code A championship match
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That was pretty damn sweet.
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this is how vikings were intended to be used
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TY must be confused. He's playing some mech version of himself.
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viking drop into big damage.
Err, viking land into big damage.
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I never knew the rocks were there
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On April 17 2014 14:25 Shellshock wrote:
this is how vikings were intended to be used
until assault viking mode got nerfed many years ago =(
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S3 needs to have 32 Terrans.
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Pretty back and forth but it finally normalized
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Poll: Recommend SuperNova vs TY Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 5% ★★★- Good game (3) 14% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (11) 52% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (6) 29% 21 total votes Your vote: Recommend SuperNova vs TY Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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cant wait for the loser of this to die to Choya
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Supernova and TY need to battle each other more often.
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On April 17 2014 14:30 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend SuperNova vs TY Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 5% ★★★- Good game (3) 14% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (11) 52% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (6) 29% 21 total votes Your vote: Recommend SuperNova vs TY Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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take a drink everytime tasteless says tty!
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very well played, from start to finish
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They're pretty evenly matched, but Suno looks a little bit better at both strategy and execution.
That Hellion flank of Marines baited by the Banshee might be one of the sickest plays this season of Code A.
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Hard drop vs Soft drop...?
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TIL i ladder in antarctica
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tasteless just killed off penguins. and polar bears.
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"Becoming a reality = you might see it actually used in 10 years. If they solve the power problem.
... you young mothercasters.
GET OFF MY LAWN!!
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On April 17 2014 14:32 Inflicted_ wrote:
Hard drop vs Soft drop...?
Commitment vs. no real commitment.
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damn I hate when they switch colors
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On April 17 2014 14:36 Shellshock wrote:
damn I hate when they switch colors
Yup. Drives me crazy.
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TY so scared of banshees. So scared of harass, he built his cc in his main.
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Well there goes TY's timing.
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They switched roles. TY going mech, Suno going bio.
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They switched colors AND comps? Come on
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lorniiiiiiiiing no one is bolded for game 3 of TRUE vs Choya in overall results.
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TY keeps throwing/nearly throwing so many units away.
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On April 17 2014 14:41 Darkhorse wrote:
lorniiiiiiiiing no one is bolded for game 3 of TRUE vs Choya in overall results.
TT
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Supernova!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOW
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Poll: Recommend SuperNova vs TY Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (10) 63% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 13% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend SuperNova vs TY Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
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(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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what's with that gg timing.
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Hahahhahaha, Suno is too god damn strategical with his attacks.
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SuNo's tricks are too good :p
get code S nao!
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Wowww well played Supernova! TY can still get through he seemed solid
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why was TY playing mech there? Doesn't he know bio is superior in general? lol.
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On April 17 2014 14:39 GTPGlitch wrote:
RIP Supernova :C
Who the fuck you think he is?
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On April 17 2014 14:39 GTPGlitch wrote:
RIP Supernova :C
sup
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Supernova is so good at picking apart his opponent. Hope he finds a team soon.
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On April 17 2014 14:42 Popkiller wrote:
what's with that gg timing.
Suno remembers to siege the tanks on the low ground -> Ty has what economy again?
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On April 17 2014 14:41 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:41 Darkhorse wrote:
lorniiiiiiiiing no one is bolded for game 3 of TRUE vs Choya in overall results. TT
<3
gogo Suno!
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TY played scared that whole game.
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On April 17 2014 14:41 Darkhorse wrote:
lorniiiiiiiiing no one is bolded for game 3 of TRUE vs Choya in overall results.
Who do you think you are correcting Lorning?!?!
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Both players played great. Hope they get out. Sorry TRUE.
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On April 17 2014 14:42 BigFan wrote:
why was TY playing mech there? Doesn't he know bio is superior in general? lol.
After getting schooled by Suno, he tried mech. Then Suno schooled him again in bio.
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On April 17 2014 14:42 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend SuperNova vs TY Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (10) 63% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 13% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend SuperNova vs TY Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
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(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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Who's the idiot that keeps saying 'outclassed' everytime he doesn't have anything to say?
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On April 17 2014 14:42 Die4Ever wrote:sup
He obviously meant Really Intense Pressure Supernova :D!
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On April 17 2014 14:43 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:42 BigFan wrote:
why was TY playing mech there? Doesn't he know bio is superior in general? lol. After getting schooled by Suno, he tried mech. Then Suno schooled him again in bio.
ah I see, makes sense then lol
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The rest of KT just decided to leave GSL to Zest while they head back to Proleague
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Oh man this group is so good to watch ! now a TvZ and a TvP !!!!
Lets go Terrans !
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On April 17 2014 14:44 NoGasfOu wrote:
Who's the idiot that keeps saying 'outclassed' everytime he doesn't have anything to say?
That would be Tastless, and yes it was definitely unnecessary and wrong.
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please Choya and True
squeeze some juicy terran tears for me
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On April 17 2014 14:42 stuchiu wrote:Who the fuck you think he is?
aaah i misoverestimated the damage at his natural :|
GG SUNO tho
gogo to code S ~~~~
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On April 17 2014 14:44 Shellshock wrote:
The rest of KT just decided to leave GSL to Zest while they head back to Proleague
following CJ's example
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In Summary, this is what happened in g3:
TY now scared shitless of banshees and goes raven, 8marines and viking and stays in base.
TY scared of marine medivac mine harass. Builds cc later and on high ground.
Suno's mine somehow killed 2 marines and a hellion and spotted a move out and forced a scan.
TY moved out to attack but Suno was in perfect positions with tanks and vikings and raven and did a counter drop.
Both do some crazy harass mid game.
Suno decide it is time to do a triple pronged attack. Medivac drop in main t kills 3 tanks, triple auto turret drop in nat, bunkers sieged on low ground and defense hellions in nat.
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On April 17 2014 14:45 gobbledydook wrote:
please Choya and True
squeeze some juicy terran tears for me
I'd be surprised if they did given the level of play in each series, which is a good sign for them
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On April 17 2014 14:45 GTPGlitch wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:42 stuchiu wrote:On April 17 2014 14:39 GTPGlitch wrote:
RIP Supernova :C Who the fuck you think he is? aaah i misoverestimated the damage at his natural :| GG SUNO tho gogo to code S ~~~~
TY was losing workers too there were two fights at once.
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On April 17 2014 14:44 -RusH wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:44 NoGasfOu wrote:
Who's the idiot that keeps saying 'outclassed' everytime he doesn't have anything to say? That would be Tastless, and yes it was definitely unnecessary and wrong.
It annoys the heck out of me that he keeps saying that everytime. Doesn't he have another word in his vocabulary as a caster.
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I am ambivalent towards TY, but my longstanding hatred of Choya makes me want TY to win really badly.
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This intermission song isn't as good as last season's
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On April 17 2014 14:47 Cheren wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:45 GTPGlitch wrote:On April 17 2014 14:42 stuchiu wrote:On April 17 2014 14:39 GTPGlitch wrote:
RIP Supernova :C Who the fuck you think he is? aaah i misoverestimated the damage at his natural :| GG SUNO tho gogo to code S ~~~~ TY was losing workers too there were two fights at once.
Yea but it was 17-9 worker kills in TY's favor
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On April 17 2014 14:47 NoGasfOu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:44 -RusH wrote:On April 17 2014 14:44 NoGasfOu wrote:
Who's the idiot that keeps saying 'outclassed' everytime he doesn't have anything to say? That would be Tastless, and yes it was definitely unnecessary and wrong. It annoys the heck out of me that he keeps saying that everytime. Doesn't he have another word in his vocabulary as a caster.
He's been doing this for a long time. Given that you didn't even know who he was shows you have a very small sample size to work with. Give him a chance
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On April 17 2014 14:48 Shellshock wrote:
This intermission song isn't as good as last season's
This reggae-rock not working for me.
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On April 17 2014 14:48 GTPGlitch wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:47 Cheren wrote:On April 17 2014 14:45 GTPGlitch wrote:On April 17 2014 14:42 stuchiu wrote:On April 17 2014 14:39 GTPGlitch wrote:
RIP Supernova :C Who the fuck you think he is? aaah i misoverestimated the damage at his natural :| GG SUNO tho gogo to code S ~~~~ TY was losing workers too there were two fights at once. Yea but it was 17-9 worker kills in TY's favor
TY lost out on early game in terms of cc build time and early harass so it was even.
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On April 17 2014 14:49 vult wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:48 Shellshock wrote:
This intermission song isn't as good as last season's This reggae-rock not working for me.
We need some ska
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As much as I understand SuNo wanting to get foreign money, it makes me sad that he's not in proleague
seeing him pull magic tricks 2-4 times a week would be so awesome ;;
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On April 17 2014 14:51 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:49 vult wrote:On April 17 2014 14:48 Shellshock wrote:
This intermission song isn't as good as last season's This reggae-rock not working for me. We need some ska
Yes please.
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On April 17 2014 14:49 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:47 NoGasfOu wrote:On April 17 2014 14:44 -RusH wrote:On April 17 2014 14:44 NoGasfOu wrote:
Who's the idiot that keeps saying 'outclassed' everytime he doesn't have anything to say? That would be Tastless, and yes it was definitely unnecessary and wrong. It annoys the heck out of me that he keeps saying that everytime. Doesn't he have another word in his vocabulary as a caster. He's been doing this for a long time. Given that you didn't even know who he was shows you have a very small sample size to work with. Give him a chance
Of course he knew who Tasteless was.
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On April 17 2014 14:51 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:49 vult wrote:On April 17 2014 14:48 Shellshock wrote:
This intermission song isn't as good as last season's This reggae-rock not working for me. We need some ska
Yes please. Something like this.
+ Show Spoiler +
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What is the current song btw?
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On April 17 2014 14:52 imrusty269 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:49 Yorkie wrote:On April 17 2014 14:47 NoGasfOu wrote:On April 17 2014 14:44 -RusH wrote:On April 17 2014 14:44 NoGasfOu wrote:
Who's the idiot that keeps saying 'outclassed' everytime he doesn't have anything to say? That would be Tastless, and yes it was definitely unnecessary and wrong. It annoys the heck out of me that he keeps saying that everytime. Doesn't he have another word in his vocabulary as a caster. He's been doing this for a long time. Given that you didn't even know who he was shows you have a very small sample size to work with. Give him a chance Of course he knew who Tasteless was.
"Who's the idiot..." he certainly didn't recognize him by voice, which is not a difficult to do for someone who knows him well
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On April 17 2014 14:49 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:47 NoGasfOu wrote:On April 17 2014 14:44 -RusH wrote:On April 17 2014 14:44 NoGasfOu wrote:
Who's the idiot that keeps saying 'outclassed' everytime he doesn't have anything to say? That would be Tastless, and yes it was definitely unnecessary and wrong. It annoys the heck out of me that he keeps saying that everytime. Doesn't he have another word in his vocabulary as a caster. He's been doing this for a long time. Given that you didn't even know who he was shows you have a very small sample size to work with. Give him a chance
I knows it's tasteless, just that he keeps spewing out that word so many times in the wrong situations. After hearing it for a thousand times over the years I think his English skill as a caster is not enough for this job anymore.
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Fuck yeah supernova! Show that elephant what's up!
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On April 17 2014 14:53 imrusty269 wrote:
What is the current song btw?
311-Sand Dollars, album Stereolithic
er jk
that was the reggae-rock song
i dunno what this other one is
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TY and True will make it out of this group easy
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On April 17 2014 14:52 imrusty269 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:49 Yorkie wrote:On April 17 2014 14:47 NoGasfOu wrote:On April 17 2014 14:44 -RusH wrote:On April 17 2014 14:44 NoGasfOu wrote:
Who's the idiot that keeps saying 'outclassed' everytime he doesn't have anything to say? That would be Tastless, and yes it was definitely unnecessary and wrong. It annoys the heck out of me that he keeps saying that everytime. Doesn't he have another word in his vocabulary as a caster. He's been doing this for a long time. Given that you didn't even know who he was shows you have a very small sample size to work with. Give him a chance Of course he knew who Tasteless was.
No, he didn't. He literally asked who it was. Literally. As in, the quoted parts above this.
It's not like Tastless doesn't have a distinctive, whiskey edged smoking deep voice, or that in a Tasteless/Wolf cast you have a Nathanias/Bitter vocal confusion situation going on.
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On April 17 2014 14:54 Emerson_H wrote:
Fuck yeah supernova! Show that elephant what's up!
Are we really still doing this?
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time for some glorious TRUE banelings
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On April 17 2014 14:56 Shellshock wrote:
time for some glorious TRUE banelings
It is the time of the teamless. Ragnarok showed the way. Supernova shall follow.
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let's go true. Get us that rematch with TY!
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TRUE confirmed cheating
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Shoulda lifted to the gold and done the MKP.
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Ohhhh so this is what DRG was trying to do every time he tried to defend a proxy 2 rax.
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haha badly done
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# ling runbys prevented today: 0
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How do you let those in...?
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That large zergling donation just evened this game out.
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On April 17 2014 15:01 vult wrote:
How do you let those in...?
no depot wall? didn't see it coming?
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SuNo in a decent position despite botching that second bunker. i think he anticipated hatch first or he wouldn't have put it so far up
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Whenever I see an exposed addon, I just of that one time where Byun kept making a tech lab and some zerg made banelings and kept killing it making it so Byun never got stim.
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On April 17 2014 14:54 GTPGlitch wrote:311-Sand Dollars, album Stereolithic er jk that was the reggae-rock song i dunno what this other one is
Yeah but knowing the band will help. Tks
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On April 17 2014 15:02 stuchiu wrote:
Whenever I see an exposed addon, I just of that one time where Byun kept making a tech lab and some zerg made banelings and kept killing it making it so Byun never got stim.
wasn't it Life on Icarus? or maybe Symbol. Pretty sure one of them. I know for sure the map was Icarus
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Roaches. Are we certain that isn't Revival in there?
*No gold. Not Revival.
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On April 17 2014 15:03 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 15:02 stuchiu wrote:
Whenever I see an exposed addon, I just of that one time where Byun kept making a tech lab and some zerg made banelings and kept killing it making it so Byun never got stim. wasn't it Life on Icarus? or maybe Symbol. Pretty sure one of them. I know for sure the map was Icarus
Life. Hilarious game. /adds to rewatch list
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SuNo really needs a proleague team, he clearly has enough potential to be a worthwhile investment and I think he could work out some of the weird mistakes in his play.
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This game's been a bit of a disaster.
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How careless of Supernova... Get it together, boy!
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Good stuff true! Now finish it! :D
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Damn, roaches vs terran OP? jk but SuNo really underestimated the potential of the roach all in
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Comon don't let this cheesy Zerg gets through.
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On April 17 2014 15:06 imrusty269 wrote:
Comon don't let this cheesy Zerg gets through.
It's like you completely forgot how the game opened.
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SuNo just donating a game so he can go into god mode for the 2-1
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stop it wolf, it will never catch on
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How was DRG not Peter Pan Zerg?
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On April 17 2014 15:06 imrusty269 wrote:
Comon don't let this cheesy Zerg gets through.
roaches are cheesy? :O
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On April 17 2014 15:09 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 15:06 imrusty269 wrote:
Comon don't let this cheesy Zerg gets through. roaches are cheesy? :O
No, but True is.
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On April 17 2014 15:10 imrusty269 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 15:09 BigFan wrote:On April 17 2014 15:06 imrusty269 wrote:
Comon don't let this cheesy Zerg gets through. roaches are cheesy? :O No, but True is.
is True = BW Shine?
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On April 17 2014 15:11 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 15:10 imrusty269 wrote:On April 17 2014 15:09 BigFan wrote:On April 17 2014 15:06 imrusty269 wrote:
Comon don't let this cheesy Zerg gets through. roaches are cheesy? :O No, but True is. is True = BW Shine?
Shine = BW Shine
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On April 17 2014 15:11 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 15:11 BigFan wrote:On April 17 2014 15:10 imrusty269 wrote:On April 17 2014 15:09 BigFan wrote:On April 17 2014 15:06 imrusty269 wrote:
Comon don't let this cheesy Zerg gets through. roaches are cheesy? :O No, but True is. is True = BW Shine? Shine = BW Shine
why can't we have more than one Shine? Given, there's no Bisu to knock out here
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Clap your hands if you believe in Mutas.
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Mutas vs. Mech. Let's see how Supernova handles it.
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Thor Banshee Hellbat is kimd of like a Protoss comp. It either instantly dies or rolls everything over.
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Oh great. Swarmhosts.
Edit: Oh man I never thought of taking the tower with swarm hosts. That's nuts.
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He killed like 13 drones there.
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Supernova playing ping pong with those drones
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True lost his mutas. This is over.
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Stomped by stampeding Thors.
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This is a sexy timing push from SuperNova. Damn I want that replay. I might sub just to get the VOD :D
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what the hell True? lol. Why would you just sit back and let him mass up thors and vikings and hellbats? >.>
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The legacy of the WARHOUND lives on!!!
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Thor is most definitely here.
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On April 17 2014 15:20 Qwerty85 wrote:
This is a sexy timing push from SuperNova. Damn I want that replay. I might sub just to get the VOD :D
The trick is to use multiple supply drops.
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On April 17 2014 15:20 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 6% ★★★- Good game (1) 6% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (12) 75% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 13% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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True was DESTROYED holy hell. That's a sick push.
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Lots of swarmhosts and mutas died. 5/5.
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On April 17 2014 15:20 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 15:20 Qwerty85 wrote:
This is a sexy timing push from SuperNova. Damn I want that replay. I might sub just to get the VOD :D The trick is to use multiple supply drops.
Possibly the only time it's a good choice. At least according to commonly accepted wisdom.
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Cmon SuNo, just one more sexy timing push!
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Wolf, you can't just jump in and say the player's name before the announcer. Like, c'mon, dude.
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On April 17 2014 15:23 Circumstance wrote:
Wolf, you can't just jump in and say the player's name before the announcer. Like, c'mon, dude.
He got confused and thought he was doing a Proleague cast.
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On April 17 2014 15:23 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Symbol wolf -_-
He hasn't achieved anything while teamless tho
edit: I guess SuperNova hasn't either lol
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haha I remember that.
I believe Polt was the one who BC rushed
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Who are they talking about? I missed the start of the story
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Supernova with some cool moves today.
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On April 17 2014 15:24 pure.Wasted wrote:
Who are they talking about? I missed the start of the story
old times with ogs and Spunky getting owned by a BC rush in the very first sc2 gsl
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This is how Leenock used to play ZvT. But then he was still bad in HotS.
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That's the first time I've heard anyone refer to Artosis by his first name during a cast.
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On April 17 2014 15:26 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 15:24 pure.Wasted wrote:
Who are they talking about? I missed the start of the story old times with ogs and Spunky getting owned by a BC rush in the very first sc2 gsl
Oh OK, thanks. I don't know any of those things.
On April 17 2014 15:26 Circumstance wrote:
That's the first time I've heard anyone refer to Artosis by his first name during a cast.
Someone doesn't watch enough Code S!
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On April 17 2014 15:26 stuchiu wrote:
This is how Leenock used to play ZvT. But then he was still bad in HotS.
In WoL midgame styles died as the game got older and more figured out, I expect HotS to be similar.
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SuNo was doing a great job limiting True's econ, then he made 17 drones lol
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On April 17 2014 15:27 pure.Wasted wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 15:26 Circumstance wrote:
That's the first time I've heard anyone refer to Artosis by his first name during a cast. Someone doesn't watch enough Code S!
I guess? Every time I tune into GOM, I don't hear any Dans (or Nicks, actually).
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pretty sick macro from Supernova
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Roach max and just throw them at Supernova I guess?
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With SCV train roaches probably wont work. Also banshees.
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True, get infestors! I hear that FG is a good spell
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He's gonna go for a massive shark attack.
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Could be a big roach max attack. Tank count is sooo low
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On April 17 2014 15:29 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 15:27 pure.Wasted wrote:On April 17 2014 15:26 Circumstance wrote:
That's the first time I've heard anyone refer to Artosis by his first name during a cast. Someone doesn't watch enough Code S! I guess? Every time I tune into GOM, I don't hear any Dans (or Nicks, actually).
It's rare but it happens. Like true love.
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On April 17 2014 15:30 stuchiu wrote:
Roach max and just throw them at Supernova I guess?
If at first you don´t succeed, make more roaches.
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On April 17 2014 15:32 Daswollvieh wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 15:30 stuchiu wrote:
Roach max and just throw them at Supernova I guess? If at first you don´t succeed, make more roaches.
Mondragon style
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With 80 drones on 4 bases he can remake all those roaches while preparing a tech switch. Good for True
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Lifted Contaminated Orbital actually looks pretty cool.
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Why are you making more roaches?!
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get rekt TRUE ^^
hate this guy, except for when he plays Fantasy.
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On April 17 2014 15:34 vult wrote:
Why are you making more roaches?!
I dont think he knows how to fight this.
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On April 17 2014 15:34 Shellshock wrote:
4 Terrans in Code S?!
Supernova always in Code S. Its where he belongs.
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Man, true's games are so disappointing ><
On April 17 2014 15:32 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Nicely held by Supernova
horrible execution though. He had the bottom roaches burrowed and only unburrowed by the time the army was back.
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Wow so many terrans in Code S GomTvT all over again smh
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Suuuuuuuuuuupeeeeeeeeeeernooooooooooovaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
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SuNoooooo00oooo!!!1
get on IM plox >_>
Mvp and him could combine their mech minds
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SuNo looking so happy
well played, love his mech style.
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So, could some team please get this consistent Code S player?
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On April 17 2014 15:36 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
SuNoooooo00oooo!!!1
get on IM plox >_>
Mvp and him could combine their mech minds
They have like a million mercenaries already. Maybe MVP.SuNo?
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That was fucking amazing by Supernova. Sick builds! TERRRRAAAAANNNNNNNNN!
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4/5. No discernable swarmhost death.
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Becoming a SuperNova fan! Definitely like his style of mech, makes it wayyyyyy more interesting all those others out there.
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Damn, SuperNova looked good today.
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On April 17 2014 15:35 Yorkie wrote:
Wow so many terrans in Code S GomTvT all over again smh
Four! That's more than last season's Three! Two is already too much. One is pushing it. Hopefully 0 make it through so that the game stays balanced! - Rain
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TY has a good chance now.
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Well as expected :D supernova is dead vs the good zergs though... Also he is set up to get rekt by the good tosses too.
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Now! Choya ! come on! :D :-P
(I'd love to see more Terrans and I dislike seeing too many Protoss - but it's Choya :D )
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On April 17 2014 15:37 NovemberstOrm wrote:
StarTale`SuperNova
please no
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Supernova made that look so easy. His mech build just rolled over everything. Very nice!
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On April 17 2014 15:38 Lorning wrote:please no
Please yes.
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On April 17 2014 15:37 NovemberstOrm wrote:
StarTale`SuperNova
That would be awesome.
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On April 17 2014 15:37 affect wrote:
Well as expected :D supernova is dead vs the good zergs though... Also he is set up to get rekt by the good tosses too.
He needs GOMTvT to return to truely shine.
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On April 17 2014 15:36 Cheren wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 15:36 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
SuNoooooo00oooo!!!1
get on IM plox >_>
Mvp and him could combine their mech minds They have like a million mercenaries already. Maybe MVP.SuNo?
No I mean to actually join the team. IM desperately needs more Terran
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On April 17 2014 15:38 Cheren wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 15:37 affect wrote:
Well as expected :D supernova is dead vs the good zergs though... Also he is set up to get rekt by the good tosses too. He needs GOMTvT to return to truely shine.
TRUEly Shine?
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On April 17 2014 15:39 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 15:36 Cheren wrote:On April 17 2014 15:36 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
SuNoooooo00oooo!!!1
get on IM plox >_>
Mvp and him could combine their mech minds They have like a million mercenaries already. Maybe MVP.SuNo? No I mean to actually join the team. IM desperately needs more Terran
Oh yeah, with Mvp and Yoda in EU that's a good point.
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On April 17 2014 15:39 Cheren wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 15:39 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On April 17 2014 15:36 Cheren wrote:On April 17 2014 15:36 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
SuNoooooo00oooo!!!1
get on IM plox >_>
Mvp and him could combine their mech minds They have like a million mercenaries already. Maybe MVP.SuNo? No I mean to actually join the team. IM desperately needs more Terran Oh yeah, with Mvp and Yoda in EU that's a good point.
Yoda isn't on IM anymore.
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On April 17 2014 15:37 NovemberstOrm wrote:
StarTale`SuperNova
does ST even still exist? wasn't there some news several weeks back saying otherwise or was that some other team? lol
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On April 17 2014 15:41 BigFan wrote:does ST even still exist? wasn't there some news several weeks back saying otherwise or was that some other team? lol
They exist but they play for IM in proleague.
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On April 17 2014 15:41 BigFan wrote:does ST even still exist? wasn't there some news several weeks back saying otherwise or was that some other team? lol
They still exist... somehow...
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On April 17 2014 15:41 Cheren wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 15:41 BigFan wrote:On April 17 2014 15:37 NovemberstOrm wrote:
StarTale`SuperNova does ST even still exist? wasn't there some news several weeks back saying otherwise or was that some other team? lol They exist but they play for IM in proleague.
On April 17 2014 15:41 Swisslink wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 15:41 BigFan wrote:On April 17 2014 15:37 NovemberstOrm wrote:
StarTale`SuperNova does ST even still exist? wasn't there some news several weeks back saying otherwise or was that some other team? lol They still exist... somehow...
oh lol. Guess I wasn't imagining things after all then XD
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On April 17 2014 15:41 Swisslink wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 15:41 BigFan wrote:On April 17 2014 15:37 NovemberstOrm wrote:
StarTale`SuperNova does ST even still exist? wasn't there some news several weeks back saying otherwise or was that some other team? lol They still exist... somehow...
StarTale is like Schroedinger's cat. We don't know what's in the box until we look, but people are scared to look because they don't want ST to be dead or living but as an appendage of IM.
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At least show some solid games here Choya.
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I know I can't be the only person who hates that 311ish sounding song they play during the breaks -____-. Is that 311?
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So if 2 terrans make it out of the group it'll be the first time in how long that that's happened?
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On April 17 2014 15:44 Vasoline73 wrote:
I know I can't be the only person who hates that 311ish sounding song they play during the breaks -____-. Is that 311?
I think so. I mute it and listen to ska instead.
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I like Choya, but with his play...just no. Please no.
Plus moar Terran
gogo TY!
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On April 17 2014 15:44 Cheren wrote:
So if 2 terrans make it out of the group it'll be the first time in how long that that's happened?
Somewhere between forever and an eternity
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On April 17 2014 15:44 Cheren wrote:
So if 2 terrans make it out of the group it'll be the first time in how long that that's happened?
Last time was Jjakji and Flash over First and Hyvaa in WCS Season 3 Ro32 last year.
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On April 17 2014 15:43 felisconcolori wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 15:41 Swisslink wrote:On April 17 2014 15:41 BigFan wrote:On April 17 2014 15:37 NovemberstOrm wrote:
StarTale`SuperNova does ST even still exist? wasn't there some news several weeks back saying otherwise or was that some other team? lol They still exist... somehow... StarTale is like Schroedinger's cat. We don't know what's in the box until we look, but people are scared to look because they don't want ST to be dead or living but as an appendage of IM.
the alternative is to just add the poison then you know what the outcome is without looking
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This should get ugly for Choya
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On April 17 2014 15:44 Vasoline73 wrote:
I know I can't be the only person who hates that 311ish sounding song they play during the breaks -____-. Is that 311?
eeyup
311 sand dollars
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On April 17 2014 15:47 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 15:43 felisconcolori wrote:On April 17 2014 15:41 Swisslink wrote:On April 17 2014 15:41 BigFan wrote:On April 17 2014 15:37 NovemberstOrm wrote:
StarTale`SuperNova does ST even still exist? wasn't there some news several weeks back saying otherwise or was that some other team? lol They still exist... somehow... StarTale is like Schroedinger's cat. We don't know what's in the box until we look, but people are scared to look because they don't want ST to be dead or living but as an appendage of IM. the alternative is to just add the poison then you know what the outcome is without looking
Not even then. How did you know Life drank the Kool-aid? You have to look.
+ Show Spoiler +
Just to mess with certain people... IM.Life
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Oh god, this is so hard to watch.
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That scantipede saved that marines life.
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Choya got murdered there. Someone call the police.
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On April 17 2014 15:51 TechNoTrance wrote:
That scantipede saved that marines life.
Choya hates scantipedes. So. Sooo much.
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That was a satisfying gg timing.
5/5. Choya lost.
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On April 17 2014 15:51 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 14% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 29% ★★★- Good game (2) 29% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 29% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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On April 17 2014 15:37 NovemberstOrm wrote:
StarTale`SuperNova
Supernova doesn´t look like he cares much for STIM. 
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On April 17 2014 15:52 stuchiu wrote:
Omg, MKP is the one thats gotta tell Choya to not choke.
As a Prime fan, that makes me laugh. (I'm also crying.)
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choya T_T That was one-sided lol. As much as I want a terran to advance, I can live with Choya advancing lol
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On April 17 2014 15:52 stuchiu wrote:
Omg, MKP is the one thats gotta tell Choya to not choke.
"look, at the end of this series you have to cry. i don't care if you win or lose, after this is over, you have to cry. trust me. it's the right thing to do."
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On April 17 2014 15:52 ssxsilver wrote:
MKP looks so terrible with the grey hair.
Kongdalf the Grey?
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On April 17 2014 15:53 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 15:52 stuchiu wrote:
Omg, MKP is the one thats gotta tell Choya to not choke. "look, at the end of this series you have to cry. i don't care if you win or lose, after this is over, you have to cry. trust me. it's the right thing to do."
If you cry enough, reddit will sponsor you to MLG...maybe....probably not...but at least itll make you feel better!
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They're having WAY too much fun with an eyelash on a nose.
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Wolf even obsessed about hair that is on TY's nose. What is it with him?
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Things you can't kill with one oracle: Command centers
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Choya being outmacroed again lol. He's doing pretty well though.
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Doom drops just a delay for getting 4th and vikings
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Man TY's macro is on point.
EDIT: Did he forget armor? Still on +1 compared to his soon +3 weapons.
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TY showing what Terran should do when playing this style. Constantly sniping observers. It makes it insanely hard to engage as Protoss and severely cuts into colossus production.
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At this rate Choya may just turn Byun over to Rain because of this game.
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On April 17 2014 03:35 Aeromi wrote:
If Choya goes to Code S I gift a TL+ to Lorning.
yay
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Yeah, Tasteless is actually right this time. TY is indeed on another level with this stomp.
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Well, that was hardly surprising. Maybe we´ll get to see some bio vs True?
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Oh god that was destruction. Just outclassed.
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On April 17 2014 16:08 Lorning wrote:
The dream is dead
NO!! Only deferred. The dream is only deferred. Next season.
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TY was just somehow ahead the whole game. In the beginning he had not done anything and it was about 66 SCVs to 50 probes.
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i still don't get why TY loaded up his whole army into medivacs, then flew right through the vision of two observers and a phoenix and then tried to drop into a bunch of units, but that was still a stomp.
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TY just too strong. Choya got so outplayed. Not surprising though, considering he was even losing to MKP when he just came back from LoL...
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I don't know what Prime needs to do in order to become a strong team again. 4 maps played in the GSL over the course of 2 seasons, all of them losses.
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On April 17 2014 16:09 Frex wrote:
TY was just somehow ahead the whole game. In the beginning he had not done anything and it was about 66 SCVs to 50 probes.
they were even in supply at one point but then TY skyrocketed right before the third. I think he just macro'd much harder than Choya did. Also, earlier cc, more rax, more units etc... overclassed for sure.
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On April 17 2014 16:09 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 43% ★★★- Good game (1) 14% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (2) 29% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 14% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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I just woke up to the news that SuperNova had advanced first from the group and that TY is still in it, fuck yeah!
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Don't get why people are voting 5 stars
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On April 17 2014 16:11 Lorning wrote:
Don't get why people are voting 5 stars
Choya haters I think.
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On April 17 2014 16:11 Destructicon wrote:
I just woke up to the news that SuperNova had advanced first from the group and that TY is still in it, fuck yeah!
The Supernova games were amazing. You should definitely watch them.
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On April 17 2014 16:11 Lorning wrote:
Don't get why people are voting 5 stars
Because a terran won TvP I think
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On April 17 2014 16:11 Destructicon wrote:
I just woke up to the news that SuperNova had advanced first from the group and that TY is still in it, fuck yeah!
Recommend you watch Supernova vs. TRUE, awesome mech timings.
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Now TY needs to not get run over by lings, roaches, or bane waves and he should be good.
Keep the 6 Terran code S dream alive >_>
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Tasteless doing his Choya impression for that intro.
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On April 17 2014 16:16 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Now TY needs to not get run over by lings, roaches, or bane waves and he should be good.
Keep the 6 Terran code S dream alive >_>
Twice as many as last season. I can hear Rain frothing.
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TY is 7-2 on TLPD in this matchup -.-. Is there something I'm missing with Wolf's reference (I don't really follow TY)?
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TY has been of my favorites to watch in SPL, I'd love if he were able to pull through and make it through!
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On April 17 2014 15:13 Circumstance wrote:
Clap your hands if you believe in Mutas.
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Majora's Mask best Zelda, then Windwaker HD.
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On April 17 2014 16:19 vult wrote:
Majora's Mask best Zelda, then Windwaker HD.
Yes! MM never gets enough love.
It's always OoT this! aLttP that! ugh
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so either a Terran or TRUE advances.
life is hard
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Oh yea, Link's awakening. You could technically say that Link destroyed that entire island by beating the game.
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Best Zelda game was Minish Cap on GB Advance
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On April 17 2014 16:22 Lorning wrote:
Best Zelda game was Minish Cap on GB Advance
Minish Cap was great, one of my favorites on GBA.
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So basically, Zelda is an amazing franchise.
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this game needs more banelings
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5 mutas vs 8 marines
FIGHT
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Wow they just stabbed each other to death.
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Mass muta/bane so good, but not handled well.
EDIT: Nevermind, SOMANYBANELINGSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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TRUE is going full Nestea.
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"The way TRUE looks at this is Banelings are the answer to everything." He's not wrong, Wolf!
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TY need some Tanks to fight that I think O.o
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If this was Fantasy, he would eventually win.
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Lorning
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Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (3) 21% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (4) 29% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (5) 36% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 14% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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suddenly, mass banelings.
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On April 17 2014 16:32 stuchiu wrote:
If this was Fantasy, he would eventually win.
Fantasy actually didn't do bad job splitting which helps a lot vs mass fucking baneling
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That was a tsunami of banelings that destroyed all of everything.
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When against True, kill the Extractors.
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Would be really sad if 0 out of 6 KT players make to Code S this week
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On April 17 2014 16:32 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (3) 21% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (4) 29% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (5) 36% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 14% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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haha mass banelings is so fun to watch
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Not enough banelings.
MOAR BANELINGS.
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NASL sound guy working the GSL overlays now?
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Is TY the next Zerg bonjwa?
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Come on TY! Take one game at least! :D
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Pandemona
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How come this is still going :3
Which was the long long game?
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On April 17 2014 16:35 Circumstance wrote:
Is TY the next Zerg bonjwa?
no
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not sure if this was worth it, TY could have gotten at least 10 more drones
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On April 17 2014 16:39 Pandemona wrote:
How come this is still going :3
Which was the long long game?
None of the games were particularly long, but some good Mech TvZ games from Supernova and True.
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On April 17 2014 16:40 Qwerty85 wrote:
not sure if this was worth it, TY could have gotten at least 10 more drones
I agree, he killed 11 drones but lost all his units, it looked quite even.
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TY lost game one? was it cheese?
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On April 17 2014 16:43 BigFan wrote:
TY lost game one? was it cheese?
it was SO MANY BANELINGS
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On April 17 2014 16:43 BigFan wrote:
TY lost game one? was it cheese?
macro game. And then TRUE made more banelings than TY had marines.
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oh good, he is making tanks
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ohhhh!
Reminds me of a very old game between Nestea and Mvp xD
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TRUE is throwing away mutas so he can max out on banes
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Does True hate Mutas, or does he have the need to see his units explode... all units?
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I hope people realize how well Tasteless is casting. Like, as a viewer who only likes a certain few casters (most of whom are analytical), he is sounding really good.
A lot of casters are like diamond or masters or whatever, and they try to introduce and explain concepts that they don't fully understand or are their level. Tasteless isn't trying to do that though, he's just talking about likely possibilities and scenarios and explaining them. As a top masters player it is really nice to hear.
Also Wolf is definitely improving.
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Hope Flash is tanking notes of those units called "Tanks".... ;_;
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On April 17 2014 16:47 Pandemona wrote:
Hope Flash is tanking notes of those units called "Tanks".... ;_;
Haha completely unintentional comedy
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TRUE plays so god damn messy with spurts of brilliance and finesse.
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wow that looks ridiculous
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Man this mass baneling style is fun to watch. It's like watching Michael Bay play SC.
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Pandemona
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On April 17 2014 16:48 vult wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 16:47 Pandemona wrote:
Hope Flash is tanking notes of those units called "Tanks".... ;_; Haha completely unintentional comedy
Oh wow lol, yeah 8am is not good times for me when im trying to type =P
But indeed, tank note on tanks Flash....lolool.
With Flash's macro as well Flash would win games if he made tanks as you can see, TY slipping in macro.
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Marine Tank vs MLB is so much fun to watch... I miss it
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TY playing badly :/
On April 17 2014 16:44 Ej_ wrote:it was SO MANY BANELINGS
:O
On April 17 2014 16:44 stuchiu wrote:macro game. And then TRUE made more banelings than TY had marines.
lol. cool.
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If True didnt throw so many mutas, hed have like 50 by now
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So many Banelings is the new "At What Cost".
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Tank is definitely more fun than wm. Sad that Flash played without both ._.
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How does True do it? I don´t get it.
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lol TRUE play doesn't make sense but it works
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On April 17 2014 16:51 Daswollvieh wrote:
How does True do it? I don´t get it.
He plays excellent muta control with superior mechanics compared to TY
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Pandemona
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Think you should run away quickly and leave the studio TY
Not good couple of days for KT best terrans xD
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On April 17 2014 16:51 Ace Frehley wrote:
If True didnt throw so many mutas, hed have like 50 by now
Yeah, but it's a really cool style he's using. He's getting a lot of mutas fast, putting on a lot of pressure while cutting production and going for a bigger ground army. It's really really smart. If he didn't lose those like 5 mutas or whatever in game 1 it would've been WAY more 1 sided because his strat would've worked way better.
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TRUE has more banelings than TY has army supply
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Then he rolls him over once hes gotten far enough ahead.
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Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (9) 82% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 18% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 29% ★★★- Good game (2) 29% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 14% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 29% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
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IMNESTEAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaa...
man that sucks. Funny game at least
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One more KT player dropped out.
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lol someone plz gif that horrifying banelings march
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On April 17 2014 16:46 Shebuha wrote:
I hope people realize how well Tasteless is casting. Like, as a viewer who only likes a certain few casters (most of whom are analytical), he is sounding really good.
A lot of casters are like diamond or masters or whatever, and they try to introduce and explain concepts that they don't fully understand or are their level. Tasteless isn't trying to do that though, he's just talking about likely possibilities and scenarios and explaining them. As a top masters player it is really nice to hear.
Also Wolf is definitely improving.
As a fan of Tasteless, I think he's doing a pretty terrible job today. Really out of his depth in the TvT and making a lot of outlandish remarks like "TY got outclassted." The analysis from these guys is all surface, when we get any at all.
Only thing that's working for me tonight is the passion.
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That was like the baneling farm single player mission
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On April 17 2014 16:52 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 16:51 Daswollvieh wrote:
How does True do it? I don´t get it. He plays excellent muta control with superior mechanics compared to TY
You really cant call that excellent, he most have lost +20 Mutas for nothing during the game O.o
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We Rollin', they Hate'n...
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just came. I saw all the banelings. then I saw GG . . . .
Both Flash & TY drop . .
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And TRUE is going back to Never Never Land!
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Turn on computer, see the baneling line and the score. wtf TY, wtf .
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I still want Marine Tank vs MLB back BLIZZARD >.<!!!
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Belgica34432 Posts
On April 17 2014 16:53 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (9) 82% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 18% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 29% ★★★- Good game (2) 29% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 14% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 29% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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Alright guys, 4am here. Gotta sleep .__.
GL to Squirtle and Stork!
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Nooooooooooooooooo TY
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now watch hitmaN/Action/MyungSick make it while Stats/Flash/Taeyang didnt
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On April 17 2014 16:52 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 16:51 Daswollvieh wrote:
How does True do it? I don´t get it. He plays excellent muta control with superior mechanics compared to TY
Yeah his muta control is vastly superior in every way, did you see how few of them he even lost over the course of that game?
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On April 17 2014 16:53 Glorfindel! wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 16:52 stuchiu wrote:On April 17 2014 16:51 Daswollvieh wrote:
How does True do it? I don´t get it. He plays excellent muta control with superior mechanics compared to TY You really cant call that excellent, he most have lost +20 Mutas for nothing during the game O.o
It was pretty good, even if super messy. By the time he was losing 20+ mutas or whatever he had slaughtered 50 scvs, had a bigger land army, more creep spread and more drones. No matter the losses, he always makes up for it in damage taken from the Terran.
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No Flash and no TY in Code S makes me sad.
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33% increase in Code S Terrans this season.
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I am disappointed. At least Supernova went through, but I love ZvT and it does not look like a matchup that we will see a lot of
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KT in individual competition, I shouldn´t be surprised.
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guys how do you beat those tons of banelings and mutas if ever a zerg got to it against you? as terran or protoss.
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Muta regen makes even mediocre muta control still cost efficient
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Its kind of like this. TRUE committs way further with his mutas than say DRG. But because hes pushing so far, he gets more from it. More dead scvs, stray marines, stray tanks, forces Terran to completely focus on trapping the mutas. Yea he loses some mutas to rallies, some to drops, but the pure amount of devastation he wrecks on the Terran while he is getting larvae injects and creep spread is pretty amazing.
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On April 17 2014 16:56 Levistus wrote:
guys how do you beat those tons of banelings and mutas if ever a zerg got to it against you? as terran or protoss.
As terran you add thors into your composition along with the masses of mines you should already be making, alternatively you go marine tank with thors later on.
As protoss, lol, sentries FF is auto-win against banes and later on colossus just rips lings and banes apart, phoenix obliterate mutas.
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Lol in the last game TY was so ahead after killing all those drones, after he caught all those mutas etc, still lost.
Flash, TY eliminated by Shine, Hydra, True? What would happen if they played the very best Zergs?
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On April 17 2014 16:56 Levistus wrote:
guys how do you beat those tons of banelings and mutas if ever a zerg got to it against you? as terran or protoss.
Mines and Tanks for Terran. Maybe Thors to soak up hits, but a smart Zerg knows to micro the Banes away from the Thors whenever possible.
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On April 17 2014 16:56 Daswollvieh wrote:
KT in individual competition, I shouldn´t be surprised.
Zest just won GSL -.-
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GomTvT is back
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On April 17 2014 16:56 Levistus wrote:
guys how do you beat those tons of banelings and mutas if ever a zerg got to it against you? as terran or protoss.
Spread out mines, tanks, marauders, good micro, building walls
Collosi, Forcefield, Archon, Immortal, Air Tech, Storm
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On April 17 2014 16:56 Levistus wrote:
guys how do you beat those tons of banelings and mutas if ever a zerg got to it against you? as terran or protoss.
He wasn't really babysitting that muta ball with an overseer right? TY could have probably pulled a Jjakji and prayed for a clutch minefield with how reckless True was with those mutas. Tanks just seem rather useless.
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On April 17 2014 16:56 Levistus wrote:
guys how do you beat those tons of banelings and mutas if ever a zerg got to it against you? as terran or protoss.
You go mech.
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On April 17 2014 16:56 Levistus wrote:
guys how do you beat those tons of banelings and mutas if ever a zerg got to it against you? as terran or protoss.
Forcefield, archon
That's how Nestea played one hell of an ugly game against Huk a long time ago
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Flash,Stats,TY :/ I believe in you Action!
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On April 17 2014 16:58 TW wrote:
Lol in the last game TY was so ahead after killing all those drones, after he caught all those mutas etc, still lost.
Flash, TY eliminated by Shine, Hydra, True? What would happen if they played the very best Zergs?
Hydra and True are really good players; Flash threw it against Shine. Don't whine.
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On April 17 2014 16:59 Ace Frehley wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 16:56 Levistus wrote:
guys how do you beat those tons of banelings and mutas if ever a zerg got to it against you? as terran or protoss. Forcefield, archon That's how Nestea played one hell of an ugly game against Huk a long time ago
Oh god no... that game on TDA... and he just kept on making banelings and threw a 100supply lead or something like that.
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As terran you add thors into your composition along with the masses of mines you should already be making, alternatively you go marine tank with thors later on.
Mines? Seriously? Zergs learned just to ignore them when swarming lings and banes into your army.
They will probably hurt more T army then Z because of friendly fire.
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On April 17 2014 16:59 ssxsilver wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 16:56 Levistus wrote:
guys how do you beat those tons of banelings and mutas if ever a zerg got to it against you? as terran or protoss. He wasn't really babysitting that muta ball with an overseer right? TY could have probably pulled a Jjakji and prayed for a clutch minefield with how reckless True was with those mutas. Tanks just seem rather useless.
You can still see the mines without an overseer, you just can't target them. True spend A LOT of attention on his mutalisk, look how he got out of those traps by TY.
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On April 17 2014 17:01 TW wrote:Show nested quote +As terran you add thors into your composition along with the masses of mines you should already be making, alternatively you go marine tank with thors later on. Mines? Seriously? Zergs learned just to ignore them when swarming lings and banes into your army. They will probably hurt more T army then Z because of friendly fire.
Then you missmicro and deserve to lose.
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On April 17 2014 16:58 TW wrote:
Lol in the last game TY was so ahead after killing all those drones, after he caught all those mutas etc, still lost.
Flash, TY eliminated by Shine, Hydra, True? What would happen if they played the very best Zergs?
Had he built workers during that attack, yes. As it was, he was on 37SCVs at 10mins. Fucked up his macro.
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On April 17 2014 17:02 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 16:58 TW wrote:
Lol in the last game TY was so ahead after killing all those drones, after he caught all those mutas etc, still lost.
Flash, TY eliminated by Shine, Hydra, True? What would happen if they played the very best Zergs? Had he built workers during that attack, yes. As it was, he was on 37SCVs at 10mins. Fucked up his macro.
Also lost a good number IIRC.
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BTW, in the last game TY was ahead after killing all those drones, after he caught all those mutas, failed baneling runbies etc, still lost.
Flash, TY eliminated by Shine, Hydra, True? What would happen if they played the very best Zergs?
How many Terrans we need in Code S to force DK to react? 1, 2 none?
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On April 17 2014 17:03 TW wrote:
BTW, in the last game TY was ahead after killing all those drones, after he caught all those mutas, failed baneling runbies etc, still lost.
Flash, TY eliminated by Shine, Hydra, True? What would happen if they played the very best Zergs?
How many Terrans we need in Code S to force DK to react? 1, 2 none?
If you're going to aimlesly whine and just not even read the responses of the people giving you advise/discussing with you, what the hell are you doing in a discussion forum?
Go away plz.
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On April 17 2014 16:55 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 16:53 Glorfindel! wrote:On April 17 2014 16:52 stuchiu wrote:On April 17 2014 16:51 Daswollvieh wrote:
How does True do it? I don´t get it. He plays excellent muta control with superior mechanics compared to TY You really cant call that excellent, he most have lost +20 Mutas for nothing during the game O.o It was pretty good, even if super messy. By the time he was losing 20+ mutas or whatever he had slaughtered 50 scvs, had a bigger land army, more creep spread and more drones. No matter the losses, he always makes up for it in damage taken from the Terran.
I don't think that had anything to do with superior mechanics to be honest. True showed some very sloppy moves in both games. I missed 2/3 games against Supernova but his ling-muta counter attack was also just a waste of units when SuNo was doing his mech timing push. So his mechanics are not actually the best. He won because he basically plays ling-bane-muta with almost no lings. So basically mass bane-muta.
And that beats bio+mine, bio+hellbat+thor and bio+tanks. On top of that add the superior mobility and regen of the Hots mutas (which makes it even easier to harass a bio+tank player than in WoL). TY could have added thors in as well but if he is doing both tanks and thors + bio, why just not go mech instead of that crappy hybrid style? He can save the money he is spending on bio upgrades and barracks and go for a straight up mech composition instead, hit a nice timing and roll over True.
Just like SuperNova did.
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On April 17 2014 17:05 SC2Toastie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 17:03 TW wrote:
BTW, in the last game TY was ahead after killing all those drones, after he caught all those mutas, failed baneling runbies etc, still lost.
Flash, TY eliminated by Shine, Hydra, True? What would happen if they played the very best Zergs?
How many Terrans we need in Code S to force DK to react? 1, 2 none? If you're going to aimlesly whine and just not even read the responses of the people giving you advise/discussing with you, what the hell are you doing in a discussion forum? Go away plz.
he s got about 60 posts, don't waste your time on him, he s likely just a troll.
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If you're going to aimlesly whine and just not even read the responses of the people giving you advise/discussing with you, what the hell are you doing in a discussion forum?
What kind of responses? He should have built more mines, or make more Thors?
I am tired of people saying what should Terrans do, how sloppy they were, that their micro wasn't good enough, failed at macro etc.
What is a fact, is that Terrans are losing left and right. Tell me why almost no one said that True didn't play very well either, but so many people are pointing out TYs mistakes.
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On April 17 2014 17:17 TW wrote:Show nested quote +If you're going to aimlesly whine and just not even read the responses of the people giving you advise/discussing with you, what the hell are you doing in a discussion forum? What kind of responses? He should have built more mines, or make more Thors? I am tired of people saying what should Terrans do, how sloppy they were, that their micro wasn't good enough, failed at macro etc. What is a fact, is that Terrans are losing left and right. Tell me why almost no one said that True didn't play very well either, but so many people are pointing out TYs mistakes.
The numerous responses to your 'questions'.
How to deal with mass banes? Tanks do it perfectly fine.
TY did deal poorly with the mutalisk, wasn't prepared for the 2 base mutalisk transition.
TY did make mistakes, and True did not and went for a really powerful attack when TY was low on AoE against the Tanks and had his forth denied and damaged multiple times. Flash and TY lost because their opposition was stronger. Because they made obvious mistakes. Stop complaining. Makes you sound stupid.
On one hand you're whining T UP T UP, on the other, Supernova went 2-0 over Zerg using the same build twice.
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On April 17 2014 17:22 SC2Toastie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 17:17 TW wrote:If you're going to aimlesly whine and just not even read the responses of the people giving you advise/discussing with you, what the hell are you doing in a discussion forum? What kind of responses? He should have built more mines, or make more Thors? I am tired of people saying what should Terrans do, how sloppy they were, that their micro wasn't good enough, failed at macro etc. What is a fact, is that Terrans are losing left and right. Tell me why almost no one said that True didn't play very well either, but so many people are pointing out TYs mistakes. The numerous responses to your 'questions'. How to deal with mass banes? Tanks do it perfectly fine. TY did deal poorly with the mutalisk, wasn't prepared for the 2 base mutalisk transition. TY did make mistakes, and True did not and went for a really powerful attack when TY was low on AoE against the Tanks and had his forth denied and damaged multiple times. Flash and TY lost because their opposition was stronger. Because they made obvious mistakes. Stop complaining. Makes you sound stupid. On one hand you're whining T UP T UP, on the other, Supernova went 2-0 over Zerg using the same build twice.
Actually I'd argue TY dealt with the 2 base mutas excellently, he didn't take much damage and scored several kills on the mutas. It went down hill in the mid game though, especially when he failed to scout and punish the 4th of True. Also TY made one huge mistake, he started 2/2 super, you're supposed to start your 3/3 at like 14 or 15 mins, TY started his 2/2 at around 16.
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On April 17 2014 16:58 SC2Toastie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 16:56 Daswollvieh wrote:
KT in individual competition, I shouldn´t be surprised. Zest just won GSL -.-
Yes, one player is doing great. SKT has what 7 players in Code S. Considering how strong KT is in PL, they surely have been failing "as a team" in individual competitions. They´re probably cursed.
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On April 17 2014 17:27 Destructicon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 17:22 SC2Toastie wrote:On April 17 2014 17:17 TW wrote:If you're going to aimlesly whine and just not even read the responses of the people giving you advise/discussing with you, what the hell are you doing in a discussion forum? What kind of responses? He should have built more mines, or make more Thors? I am tired of people saying what should Terrans do, how sloppy they were, that their micro wasn't good enough, failed at macro etc. What is a fact, is that Terrans are losing left and right. Tell me why almost no one said that True didn't play very well either, but so many people are pointing out TYs mistakes. The numerous responses to your 'questions'. How to deal with mass banes? Tanks do it perfectly fine. TY did deal poorly with the mutalisk, wasn't prepared for the 2 base mutalisk transition. TY did make mistakes, and True did not and went for a really powerful attack when TY was low on AoE against the Tanks and had his forth denied and damaged multiple times. Flash and TY lost because their opposition was stronger. Because they made obvious mistakes. Stop complaining. Makes you sound stupid. On one hand you're whining T UP T UP, on the other, Supernova went 2-0 over Zerg using the same build twice. Actually I'd argue TY dealt with the 2 base mutas excellently, he didn't take much damage and scored several kills on the mutas. It went down hill in the mid game though, especially when he failed to scout and punish the 4th of True. Also TY made one huge mistake, he started 2/2 super, you're supposed to start your 3/3 at like 14 or 15 mins, TY started his 2/2 at around 16.
Might be amiss in my memory, I don't find True was behind as much as Wolf and Tasteless thought.
But that about the 2/2 is true. TY was behind on upgrades from where he was supposed to be.
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On April 17 2014 17:17 TW wrote:Show nested quote +If you're going to aimlesly whine and just not even read the responses of the people giving you advise/discussing with you, what the hell are you doing in a discussion forum? What kind of responses? He should have built more mines, or make more Thors? I am tired of people saying what should Terrans do, how sloppy they were, that their micro wasn't good enough, failed at macro etc. What is a fact, is that Terrans are losing left and right. Tell me why almost no one said that True didn't play very well either, but so many people are pointing out TYs mistakes.
It doesn't matter what mistakes your opponent makes if you make more mistakes then he does.
TY made more mistakes.
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On April 17 2014 17:30 Flonomenalz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 17:17 TW wrote:If you're going to aimlesly whine and just not even read the responses of the people giving you advise/discussing with you, what the hell are you doing in a discussion forum? What kind of responses? He should have built more mines, or make more Thors? I am tired of people saying what should Terrans do, how sloppy they were, that their micro wasn't good enough, failed at macro etc. What is a fact, is that Terrans are losing left and right. Tell me why almost no one said that True didn't play very well either, but so many people are pointing out TYs mistakes. It doesn't matter what mistakes your opponent makes if you make more mistakes then he does. TY made more mistakes.
I think the frustration derives merely from expectations. People expect Ty or Flash, for that matter, to smash their opposition in GSL, after seeing great games from them in PL. When they lose to "lesser" players (who do worse in PL) like Shine and True, they´re frustrated, the games imbalanced, or too volatile.
Maybe we have to accept that some players surpass others in well-prepared bo1 scenarios, only to get walked over by the same people in a bo3+ format?
I mean, not everyone´s a Bbyongjwa.
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On April 17 2014 17:30 Flonomenalz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 17:17 TW wrote:If you're going to aimlesly whine and just not even read the responses of the people giving you advise/discussing with you, what the hell are you doing in a discussion forum? What kind of responses? He should have built more mines, or make more Thors? I am tired of people saying what should Terrans do, how sloppy they were, that their micro wasn't good enough, failed at macro etc. What is a fact, is that Terrans are losing left and right. Tell me why almost no one said that True didn't play very well either, but so many people are pointing out TYs mistakes. It doesn't matter what mistakes your opponent makes if you make more mistakes then he does. TY made more mistakes.
I dont want to get into a balance discussion - but you need to point out what mistakes TY did similar to True loosing like ten mutas (like 1000/1000 resources) that justifies the small errors in TYs play. I dont think TY played nowhere near perfect, but True made some really big blunders that costed him (from a Terrans point of view infinitive resources) and in the end it seemed to make no difference at all.
Personally I feel the Muta-Bling-composition is reaching BL-Infestor level where everyone points out all mistakes of the Terran players. Truth is, the maps are getting so extremly big that it is incredible hard for a Bio-playing Terran to ever get far enough out on creep to seriously hurt a Zerg to do damage without being counter-harassed to death. As of now, we still have not seen a really good answer to this. Perhaps Fantasy hybrid unit comp vs Life is an execption.
Personally I feel Terrans, at the highest level, needs to either play mech or they wont stand a fighting chance against the best Zerg players in the world. That or find something different in the bio-style they can work on. Flash got masscred yesterday, TY was not even close today. And these are two of the best perfoming Terrans in PL. Add do that the fact that we might end up with 4 Terrans in GSL for another season (atleast that is +1) either Terrans are playing extremly bad or they need to find new solutions or their race just aint good enought to fight at the highest level.
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On April 17 2014 17:39 Daswollvieh wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 17:30 Flonomenalz wrote:On April 17 2014 17:17 TW wrote:If you're going to aimlesly whine and just not even read the responses of the people giving you advise/discussing with you, what the hell are you doing in a discussion forum? What kind of responses? He should have built more mines, or make more Thors? I am tired of people saying what should Terrans do, how sloppy they were, that their micro wasn't good enough, failed at macro etc. What is a fact, is that Terrans are losing left and right. Tell me why almost no one said that True didn't play very well either, but so many people are pointing out TYs mistakes. It doesn't matter what mistakes your opponent makes if you make more mistakes then he does. TY made more mistakes. I think the frustration derives merely from expectations. People expect Ty or Flash, for that matter, to smash their opposition in GSL, after seeing great games from them in PL. When they lose to "lesser" players (who do worse in PL) like Shine and True, they´re frustrated, the games imbalanced, or too volatile. Maybe we have to accept that some players surpass others in well-prepared bo1 scenarios, only to get walked over by the same people in a bo3+ format? I mean, not everyone´s a Bbyongjwa.
People need to get rid of the thought Flash is a top contender, he's a code A level player and doesn't belong in Code S, however sad that may be to some people.
TY is another story, he played a bit sloppily and forgot important, basic things (upgrades/scouting forth/defending bases).
And lastly, I don't consider True a lesser player.
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On April 17 2014 17:40 Glorfindel! wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 17:30 Flonomenalz wrote:On April 17 2014 17:17 TW wrote:If you're going to aimlesly whine and just not even read the responses of the people giving you advise/discussing with you, what the hell are you doing in a discussion forum? What kind of responses? He should have built more mines, or make more Thors? I am tired of people saying what should Terrans do, how sloppy they were, that their micro wasn't good enough, failed at macro etc. What is a fact, is that Terrans are losing left and right. Tell me why almost no one said that True didn't play very well either, but so many people are pointing out TYs mistakes. It doesn't matter what mistakes your opponent makes if you make more mistakes then he does. TY made more mistakes. I dont want to get into a balance discussion - but you need to point out what mistakes TY did similar to True loosing like ten mutas (like 1000/1000 resources) that justifies the small errors in TYs play. I dont think TY played nowhere near perfect, but True made some really big blunders that costed him (from a Terrans point of view infinitive resources) and in the end it seemed to make no difference at all. Personally I feel the Muta-Bling-composition is reaching BL-Infestor level where everyone points out all mistakes of the Terran players. Truth is, the maps are getting so extremly big that it is incredible hard for a Bio-playing Terran to ever get far enough out on creep to seriously hurt a Zerg to do damage without being counter-harassed to death. As of now, we still have not seen a really good answer to this. Perhaps Fantasy hybrid unit comp vs Life is an execption. Personally I feel Terrans, at the highest level, needs to either play mech or they wont stand a fighting chance against the best Zerg players in the world.
The big Muta catch on marines he only lost like 6, it was not as bad as it seemed.
A big part of it is that TY didn't use his better upgrade potential, failed to scout his opponents bases and fell behind on economy. He managed to get half his army stuck and lost 5 tanks and a thor far from efficiently. Those are way more costly mistakes than losing some mutalisk.
Bio Terran vs Zerg might be on the weak side, but TY just lost because he played worse.
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On April 17 2014 17:42 SC2Toastie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 17:39 Daswollvieh wrote:On April 17 2014 17:30 Flonomenalz wrote:On April 17 2014 17:17 TW wrote:If you're going to aimlesly whine and just not even read the responses of the people giving you advise/discussing with you, what the hell are you doing in a discussion forum? What kind of responses? He should have built more mines, or make more Thors? I am tired of people saying what should Terrans do, how sloppy they were, that their micro wasn't good enough, failed at macro etc. What is a fact, is that Terrans are losing left and right. Tell me why almost no one said that True didn't play very well either, but so many people are pointing out TYs mistakes. It doesn't matter what mistakes your opponent makes if you make more mistakes then he does. TY made more mistakes. I think the frustration derives merely from expectations. People expect Ty or Flash, for that matter, to smash their opposition in GSL, after seeing great games from them in PL. When they lose to "lesser" players (who do worse in PL) like Shine and True, they´re frustrated, the games imbalanced, or too volatile. Maybe we have to accept that some players surpass others in well-prepared bo1 scenarios, only to get walked over by the same people in a bo3+ format? I mean, not everyone´s a Bbyongjwa. People need to get rid of the thought Flash is a top contender, he's a code A level player and doesn't belong in Code S, however sad that may be to some people. TY is another story, he played a bit sloppily and forgot important, basic things (upgrades/scouting forth/defending bases). And lastly, I don't consider True a lesser player.
If we cannot count Flash in as contender for Code S - how many Terrans do we have left then to actually consider to be solid Code S-players?
Like, how many good Korean Terrans can we actually claim is straight up better than Flash?
If the logic is: Flash is not good enough for Code S. Then anyone rated below him should be good enough for Code S either.
The stable Code S-players feels like.. TY (who apparently is not), Bbyong, Maru and Innovation. Supernova made it this season, but I would not count on him being there season to season anymore.
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On April 17 2014 17:42 SC2Toastie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 17:39 Daswollvieh wrote:On April 17 2014 17:30 Flonomenalz wrote:On April 17 2014 17:17 TW wrote:If you're going to aimlesly whine and just not even read the responses of the people giving you advise/discussing with you, what the hell are you doing in a discussion forum? What kind of responses? He should have built more mines, or make more Thors? I am tired of people saying what should Terrans do, how sloppy they were, that their micro wasn't good enough, failed at macro etc. What is a fact, is that Terrans are losing left and right. Tell me why almost no one said that True didn't play very well either, but so many people are pointing out TYs mistakes. It doesn't matter what mistakes your opponent makes if you make more mistakes then he does. TY made more mistakes. I think the frustration derives merely from expectations. People expect Ty or Flash, for that matter, to smash their opposition in GSL, after seeing great games from them in PL. When they lose to "lesser" players (who do worse in PL) like Shine and True, they´re frustrated, the games imbalanced, or too volatile. Maybe we have to accept that some players surpass others in well-prepared bo1 scenarios, only to get walked over by the same people in a bo3+ format? I mean, not everyone´s a Bbyongjwa. People need to get rid of the thought Flash is a top contender, he's a code A level player and doesn't belong in Code S, however sad that may be to some people. TY is another story, he played a bit sloppily and forgot important, basic things (upgrades/scouting forth/defending bases). And lastly, I don't consider True a lesser player.
Flash not Code S caliber? That's a joke if I ever heard one.
Last season the big excuse for Terrans underperforming was "all the top tier Terrans like Taeja/Bomber/MMA/Polt are abroad, it's no wonder Korean leftover Terrans can't get into Code S!" But the reality is, those Terrans who are abroad lose to everyone. MC, Alicia, Stardust, San, Oz, Hyun, Revival, Welmu, Vortix, JYP, Patience, Hero can all consistently kill Korean Terrans. Put all those players back into the GSL system? Not a single Terran is a safe bet to get through. Not one.
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On April 17 2014 17:44 Glorfindel! wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 17:42 SC2Toastie wrote:On April 17 2014 17:39 Daswollvieh wrote:On April 17 2014 17:30 Flonomenalz wrote:On April 17 2014 17:17 TW wrote:If you're going to aimlesly whine and just not even read the responses of the people giving you advise/discussing with you, what the hell are you doing in a discussion forum? What kind of responses? He should have built more mines, or make more Thors? I am tired of people saying what should Terrans do, how sloppy they were, that their micro wasn't good enough, failed at macro etc. What is a fact, is that Terrans are losing left and right. Tell me why almost no one said that True didn't play very well either, but so many people are pointing out TYs mistakes. It doesn't matter what mistakes your opponent makes if you make more mistakes then he does. TY made more mistakes. I think the frustration derives merely from expectations. People expect Ty or Flash, for that matter, to smash their opposition in GSL, after seeing great games from them in PL. When they lose to "lesser" players (who do worse in PL) like Shine and True, they´re frustrated, the games imbalanced, or too volatile. Maybe we have to accept that some players surpass others in well-prepared bo1 scenarios, only to get walked over by the same people in a bo3+ format? I mean, not everyone´s a Bbyongjwa. People need to get rid of the thought Flash is a top contender, he's a code A level player and doesn't belong in Code S, however sad that may be to some people. TY is another story, he played a bit sloppily and forgot important, basic things (upgrades/scouting forth/defending bases). And lastly, I don't consider True a lesser player. If we cannot count Flash in as contender for Code S - how many Terrans do we have left then to actually consider to be solid Code S-players? Like, how many good Korean Terrans can we actually claim is straight up better than Flash? If the logic is: Flash is not good enough for Code S. Then anyone rated below him should be good enough for Code S either. The stable Code S-players feels like.. TY (who apparently is not), Bbyong, Maru and Innovation. Supernova made it this season, but I would not count on him being there season to season anymore.
Flash could compete in Code S imo, but a lot of other players could as well.
Of the top of my head Terrans that are around Flash's level (or better):
Maru, Bbyong, INnoVation, Taeja, Polt, Bomber, Ty, MarineKing, Fantasy, Supernova, Reality. Maybe Jjakji.
The 42-45% Code A/S statistics in TvZ do bother me, but I find it hard to find real imbalance in the matchup. Especially since Proleague stats were 67% for both of the last seasons and is currently at 60%. Blame the format all you want, but at the end of the day it's still Flash and Ty wrecking the same or better(!) Zergs that they lost to in Code A.
Not to mention that especially in Flash's case, he got cheesed out making terrible decisions after scouting possible and definite cheese BOs.
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On April 17 2014 18:26 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 17:44 Glorfindel! wrote:On April 17 2014 17:42 SC2Toastie wrote:On April 17 2014 17:39 Daswollvieh wrote:On April 17 2014 17:30 Flonomenalz wrote:On April 17 2014 17:17 TW wrote:If you're going to aimlesly whine and just not even read the responses of the people giving you advise/discussing with you, what the hell are you doing in a discussion forum? What kind of responses? He should have built more mines, or make more Thors? I am tired of people saying what should Terrans do, how sloppy they were, that their micro wasn't good enough, failed at macro etc. What is a fact, is that Terrans are losing left and right. Tell me why almost no one said that True didn't play very well either, but so many people are pointing out TYs mistakes. It doesn't matter what mistakes your opponent makes if you make more mistakes then he does. TY made more mistakes. I think the frustration derives merely from expectations. People expect Ty or Flash, for that matter, to smash their opposition in GSL, after seeing great games from them in PL. When they lose to "lesser" players (who do worse in PL) like Shine and True, they´re frustrated, the games imbalanced, or too volatile. Maybe we have to accept that some players surpass others in well-prepared bo1 scenarios, only to get walked over by the same people in a bo3+ format? I mean, not everyone´s a Bbyongjwa. People need to get rid of the thought Flash is a top contender, he's a code A level player and doesn't belong in Code S, however sad that may be to some people. TY is another story, he played a bit sloppily and forgot important, basic things (upgrades/scouting forth/defending bases). And lastly, I don't consider True a lesser player. If we cannot count Flash in as contender for Code S - how many Terrans do we have left then to actually consider to be solid Code S-players? Like, how many good Korean Terrans can we actually claim is straight up better than Flash? If the logic is: Flash is not good enough for Code S. Then anyone rated below him should be good enough for Code S either. The stable Code S-players feels like.. TY (who apparently is not), Bbyong, Maru and Innovation. Supernova made it this season, but I would not count on him being there season to season anymore. Flash could compete in Code S imo, but a lot of other players could as well. Of the top of my head Terrans that are around Flash's level (or better): Maru, Bbyong, INnoVation, Taeja, Polt, Bomber, Ty, MarineKing, Fantasy, Supernova, Reality. Maybe Jjakji. The 42-45% Code A/S statistics in TvZ do bother me, but I find it hard to find real imbalance in the matchup. Especially since Proleague stats were 67% for both of the last seasons and is currently at 60%. Blame the format all you want, but at the end of the day it's still Flash and Ty wrecking the same or better(!) Zergs that they lost to in Code A. Not to mention that especially in Flash's case, he got cheesed out making terrible decisions after scouting possible and definite cheese BOs.
GTFO MKP, Fantasy, Reality and Jjakji are not Flash level. Flash and TY are top 5 Korean T's. The others aren't around the same level unless you'd consider Stork/Yonghwa as around Classic/Parting level.
While being 1 game out of Code S several times isn't terrible it's less than we'd expect from their proleague results. If the format was more preparation reliant rather than these group formats with 3 potential opponents and a lot of different maps. Having set maps and opponents for group play (like the old OSL format) would probably see the proleague titans do a lot better.
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Are people seriously balance whining in a group where SuNo made it out as 1st? -.-
On April 17 2014 18:35 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 18:26 Big J wrote:On April 17 2014 17:44 Glorfindel! wrote:On April 17 2014 17:42 SC2Toastie wrote:On April 17 2014 17:39 Daswollvieh wrote:On April 17 2014 17:30 Flonomenalz wrote:On April 17 2014 17:17 TW wrote:If you're going to aimlesly whine and just not even read the responses of the people giving you advise/discussing with you, what the hell are you doing in a discussion forum? What kind of responses? He should have built more mines, or make more Thors? I am tired of people saying what should Terrans do, how sloppy they were, that their micro wasn't good enough, failed at macro etc. What is a fact, is that Terrans are losing left and right. Tell me why almost no one said that True didn't play very well either, but so many people are pointing out TYs mistakes. It doesn't matter what mistakes your opponent makes if you make more mistakes then he does. TY made more mistakes. I think the frustration derives merely from expectations. People expect Ty or Flash, for that matter, to smash their opposition in GSL, after seeing great games from them in PL. When they lose to "lesser" players (who do worse in PL) like Shine and True, they´re frustrated, the games imbalanced, or too volatile. Maybe we have to accept that some players surpass others in well-prepared bo1 scenarios, only to get walked over by the same people in a bo3+ format? I mean, not everyone´s a Bbyongjwa. People need to get rid of the thought Flash is a top contender, he's a code A level player and doesn't belong in Code S, however sad that may be to some people. TY is another story, he played a bit sloppily and forgot important, basic things (upgrades/scouting forth/defending bases). And lastly, I don't consider True a lesser player. If we cannot count Flash in as contender for Code S - how many Terrans do we have left then to actually consider to be solid Code S-players? Like, how many good Korean Terrans can we actually claim is straight up better than Flash? If the logic is: Flash is not good enough for Code S. Then anyone rated below him should be good enough for Code S either. The stable Code S-players feels like.. TY (who apparently is not), Bbyong, Maru and Innovation. Supernova made it this season, but I would not count on him being there season to season anymore. Flash could compete in Code S imo, but a lot of other players could as well. Of the top of my head Terrans that are around Flash's level (or better): Maru, Bbyong, INnoVation, Taeja, Polt, Bomber, Ty, MarineKing, Fantasy, Supernova, Reality. Maybe Jjakji. The 42-45% Code A/S statistics in TvZ do bother me, but I find it hard to find real imbalance in the matchup. Especially since Proleague stats were 67% for both of the last seasons and is currently at 60%. Blame the format all you want, but at the end of the day it's still Flash and Ty wrecking the same or better(!) Zergs that they lost to in Code A. Not to mention that especially in Flash's case, he got cheesed out making terrible decisions after scouting possible and definite cheese BOs. GTFO MKP, Fantasy, Reality and Jjakji are not Flash level. Flash and TY are top 5 Korean T's. The others aren't around the same level unless you'd consider Stork/Yonghwa as around Classic/Parting level. While being 1 game out of Code S several times isn't terrible it's less than we'd expect from their proleague results. If the format was more preparation reliant rather than these group formats with 3 potential opponents and a lot of different maps. Having set maps and opponents for group play (like the old OSL format) would probably see the proleague titans do a lot better.
Who are the other top3 Korean Ts then?
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Jesus, say Flash is not Code S level and all of a sudden the world explodes. Sorry guys, he's not invincible anymore. He's borderline Code S/Code A. Last week, he made some inexcusable mistakes - he makes really bad mistakes more often. His play is far from flawless.
Terrans I would put above him;
Maru, TY
At least same level, probably higher;
Innovation, Fantasy, Polt, Taeja (on his game), Bbyong
Around the same level;
Jjakji, Bomber, Supernova, MMA.
Possible slightly worse;
Reality, Cure
I'm probably missing some and this list is obviously personal, but seriously, you simply CANNOT argue Flash is 'up there' with the best. He just is not.(yet?) His preparation from the BO1 is excellent, but I think that is partially because KT is still supporting him as their ubersuperace and as such, he gets more resources to work with than most players in Proleague.
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On April 17 2014 19:25 SC2Toastie wrote:
Jesus, say Flash is not Code S level and all of a sudden the world explodes. Sorry guys, he's not invincible anymore. He's borderline Code S/Code A. Last week, he made some inexcusable mistakes - he makes really bad mistakes more often. His play is far from flawless.
Terrans I would put above him;
Maru, TY
At least same level, probably higher;
Innovation, Fantasy, Polt, Taeja (on his game), Bbyong
Around the same level;
Jjakji, Bomber, Supernova, MMA.
Possible slightly worse;
Reality, Cure
I'm probably missing some and this list is obviously personal, but seriously, you simply CANNOT argue Flash is 'up there' with the best. He just is not.(yet?) His preparation from the BO1 is excellent, but I think that is partially because KT is still supporting him as their ubersuperace and as such, he gets more resources to work with than most players in Proleague.
Looks like the conclusion from your posts is that there are 2 terran at code S level (not boderline)
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On April 17 2014 19:25 SC2Toastie wrote:
Jesus, say Flash is not Code S level and all of a sudden the world explodes. Sorry guys, he's not invincible anymore.
You do realize saying someone is Code S level isn't the same as saying someone is invincible right. I mean, did you watch the recent Code S finals and how much of a throw like 3 (arguably 4-5) out of 7 matches were? The Code S finalists played really badly and made really stupid mistakes in some games. And I'm saying this despite the fact that a KT player won.
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I didn't say Code S players are invincible. Don't put words into my mouth.
The Code S finals were really close, with really clutch plays and some pretty understandable mistakes from both sides.
I don't know what you guys are angry about.
Just face it and deal with it - Flash isn't the best Terran around.
Same goes for imrusty. Interpret my words any way you want, but don't parafrase them so you can put other words into my mouth.
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On April 17 2014 20:07 SC2Toastie wrote:
I didn't say Code S players are invincible. Don't put words into my mouth.
The Code S finals were really close, with really clutch plays and some pretty understandable mistakes from both sides.
I don't know what you guys are angry about.
Just face it and deal with it - Flash isn't the best Terran around.
Same goes for imrusty. Interpret my words any way you want, but don't parafrase them so you can put other words into my mouth.
I quoted you word for word in the exact same sequence as you starting your post, how's that putting words in your mouth.
Code S finals had understandable mistakes, same as mistakes being made by people who don't qualify for Code S.
People are pissed because you turn "not the best terran around" into "not fit to qualify for Code S". People just want to see TY/Flash in Code S so they see more of them in Bo3+ environment. I don't see anybody saying Flash is the best in any thread any more.
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On April 17 2014 20:19 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 20:07 SC2Toastie wrote:
I didn't say Code S players are invincible. Don't put words into my mouth.
The Code S finals were really close, with really clutch plays and some pretty understandable mistakes from both sides.
I don't know what you guys are angry about.
Just face it and deal with it - Flash isn't the best Terran around.
Same goes for imrusty. Interpret my words any way you want, but don't parafrase them so you can put other words into my mouth. I quoted you word for word in the exact same sequence as you starting your post, how's that putting words in your mouth. Code S finals had understandable mistakes, same as mistakes being made by people who don't qualify for Code S. People are pissed because you turn "not the best terran around" into "not fit to qualify for Code S". People just want to see TY/Flash in Code S so they see more of them in Bo3+ environment. I don't see anybody saying Flash is the best in any thread any more.
On April 17 2014 19:50 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 19:25 SC2Toastie wrote:
Jesus, say Flash is not Code S level and all of a sudden the world explodes. Sorry guys, he's not invincible anymore. You do realize saying someone is Code S level isn't the same as saying someone is invincible right.
Flash is not Code S level.
Flash is not invincible.
I didn't state Code S players are invincible.
I just don't get the angry responses in here.
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wtf I overslept and TY lost? NOOOOO
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Can someone tell me how the TY games went?
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Supernova games were good, lots of aggression.
True games were sloppy.
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On April 17 2014 21:51 GumBa wrote:
Can someone tell me how the TY games went?
TY vs Supernova was epic. They looked about even but Supernova's tactical plays were just superior.
TY vs Choya was a complete and utter stomp. He totally outclassed Choya
TY vs True: "SO MANY BANELINGS!". TY just couldn't cut it in the two macro TvZs, though it seemed at first like he was outplaying True in the 2nd game.
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TY wtf is wrong with you :'(
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On April 17 2014 22:35 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 21:51 GumBa wrote:
Can someone tell me how the TY games went? TY vs Supernova was epic. They looked about even but Supernova's tactical plays were just superior. TY vs Choya was a complete and utter stomp. He totally outclassed Choya TY vs True: "SO MANY BANELINGS!". TY just couldn't cut it in the two macro TvZs, though it seemed at first like he was outplaying True in the 2nd game.
Oh lol it was such a stomp I completely forgot it even happened in the first place!
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Terrans
Please, Fantasy...
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On April 17 2014 22:35 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 21:51 GumBa wrote:
Can someone tell me how the TY games went? TY vs Supernova was epic. They looked about even but Supernova's tactical plays were just superior. TY vs Choya was a complete and utter stomp. He totally outclassed Choya TY vs True: "SO MANY BANELINGS!". TY just couldn't cut it in the two macro TvZs, though it seemed at first like he was outplaying True in the 2nd game.
Oh ok one day TY will get to Code S
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On April 17 2014 22:54 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 22:35 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On April 17 2014 21:51 GumBa wrote:
Can someone tell me how the TY games went? TY vs Supernova was epic. They looked about even but Supernova's tactical plays were just superior. TY vs Choya was a complete and utter stomp. He totally outclassed Choya TY vs True: "SO MANY BANELINGS!". TY just couldn't cut it in the two macro TvZs, though it seemed at first like he was outplaying True in the 2nd game. Oh ok one day TY will get to Code S
I was actually surprised at how his TvZ was. He never split once against True, only picked up from the engagements I saw(mostly 2nd game). Considering someone of his level, splitting should be a piece of cake and something I think most terrans should have down well with practice. True didn't even play particularly well. His muta harass was great but then he donated so many mutas at one point and start making a lot of mistakes. Disappointing for TY :/
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Well, I'm the single poll voter that picked these two to move on I'm here to claim my prize. And to provide you all with the opportunity to bask in my radiance. Can you feel it? Oooooh hooo hoooo, you've never felt so fine.
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On April 17 2014 19:25 SC2Toastie wrote:
Jesus, say Flash is not Code S level and all of a sudden the world explodes. Sorry guys, he's not invincible anymore. He's borderline Code S/Code A. Last week, he made some inexcusable mistakes - he makes really bad mistakes more often. His play is far from flawless.
Terrans I would put above him;
Maru, TY
At least same level, probably higher;
Innovation, Fantasy, Polt, Taeja (on his game), Bbyong
Around the same level;
Jjakji, Bomber, Supernova, MMA.
Possible slightly worse;
Reality, Cure
I'm probably missing some and this list is obviously personal, but seriously, you simply CANNOT argue Flash is 'up there' with the best. He just is not.(yet?) His preparation from the BO1 is excellent, but I think that is partially because KT is still supporting him as their ubersuperace and as such, he gets more resources to work with than most players in Proleague.
In s1 2013, Flash got knocked out of the group of death by Innovation in in RO16. In s2, he got knocked out of the group of death with Bomber, Innovation, and Bbyong (who is nowhere near as good as Flash, but you seem to think he is, so this should count) in... RO16. In s3, he got knocked out of the group of death with Maru and Parting... in RO16.
Since then, he and Innovation, both renowned macro players, both dropped out of Code A in s1 2014 against an onslaught of cheesy Protoss in an era of Protoss dominance. S2 saw Innovation scrape his way back tooth and nail while Flash didn't manage to do it. This isn't a coincidence. These guys need a stable meta game to excel. That doesn't make them anything below the best of the best of the best. I'll put Maru above them in skill, but even him not without reservation, because he sacrifices a little of their macro domination for crazy versatility.
You're defining 'Code S player' by results, but the results are skewed by balance and meta. Ask yourself this, when Terran is strong enough to field upwards of 10 players in Code S again, do you expect Flash to be among those 10+ players? If the answer is 'obviously yes,' -- which I think it is -- then he's a Code S level player.
And I'm not a Flash fanboy. I never followed BW and thus have zero expectations of the guy in SC2.
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