EPT[Code A] Group I Season 2 2014 - Page 36
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
True games were sloppy. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On April 17 2014 21:51 GumBa wrote: Can someone tell me how the TY games went? TY vs Supernova was epic. They looked about even but Supernova's tactical plays were just superior. TY vs Choya was a complete and utter stomp. He totally outclassed Choya TY vs True: "SO MANY BANELINGS!". TY just couldn't cut it in the two macro TvZs, though it seemed at first like he was outplaying True in the 2nd game. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On April 17 2014 22:35 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: TY vs Supernova was epic. They looked about even but Supernova's tactical plays were just superior. TY vs Choya was a complete and utter stomp. He totally outclassed Choya TY vs True: "SO MANY BANELINGS!". TY just couldn't cut it in the two macro TvZs, though it seemed at first like he was outplaying True in the 2nd game. Oh lol it was such a stomp I completely forgot it even happened in the first place! | ||
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purakushi
United States3308 Posts
 Please, Fantasy... | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On April 17 2014 22:35 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: TY vs Supernova was epic. They looked about even but Supernova's tactical plays were just superior. TY vs Choya was a complete and utter stomp. He totally outclassed Choya TY vs True: "SO MANY BANELINGS!". TY just couldn't cut it in the two macro TvZs, though it seemed at first like he was outplaying True in the 2nd game. Oh ok one day TY will get to Code S | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
I was actually surprised at how his TvZ was. He never split once against True, only picked up from the engagements I saw(mostly 2nd game). Considering someone of his level, splitting should be a piece of cake and something I think most terrans should have down well with practice. True didn't even play particularly well. His muta harass was great but then he donated so many mutas at one point and start making a lot of mistakes. Disappointing for TY :/ | ||
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Lumi
United States1616 Posts
 I'm here to claim my prize. And to provide you all with the opportunity to bask in my radiance. Can you feel it? Oooooh hooo hoooo, you've never felt so fine. | ||
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
On April 17 2014 19:25 SC2Toastie wrote: Jesus, say Flash is not Code S level and all of a sudden the world explodes. Sorry guys, he's not invincible anymore. He's borderline Code S/Code A. Last week, he made some inexcusable mistakes - he makes really bad mistakes more often. His play is far from flawless. Terrans I would put above him; Maru, TY At least same level, probably higher; Innovation, Fantasy, Polt, Taeja (on his game), Bbyong Around the same level; Jjakji, Bomber, Supernova, MMA. Possible slightly worse; Reality, Cure I'm probably missing some and this list is obviously personal, but seriously, you simply CANNOT argue Flash is 'up there' with the best. He just is not.(yet?) His preparation from the BO1 is excellent, but I think that is partially because KT is still supporting him as their ubersuperace and as such, he gets more resources to work with than most players in Proleague. In s1 2013, Flash got knocked out of the group of death by Innovation in in RO16. In s2, he got knocked out of the group of death with Bomber, Innovation, and Bbyong (who is nowhere near as good as Flash, but you seem to think he is, so this should count) in... RO16. In s3, he got knocked out of the group of death with Maru and Parting... in RO16. Since then, he and Innovation, both renowned macro players, both dropped out of Code A in s1 2014 against an onslaught of cheesy Protoss in an era of Protoss dominance. S2 saw Innovation scrape his way back tooth and nail while Flash didn't manage to do it. This isn't a coincidence. These guys need a stable meta game to excel. That doesn't make them anything below the best of the best of the best. I'll put Maru above them in skill, but even him not without reservation, because he sacrifices a little of their macro domination for crazy versatility. You're defining 'Code S player' by results, but the results are skewed by balance and meta. Ask yourself this, when Terran is strong enough to field upwards of 10 players in Code S again, do you expect Flash to be among those 10+ players? If the answer is 'obviously yes,' -- which I think it is -- then he's a Code S level player. And I'm not a Flash fanboy. I never followed BW and thus have zero expectations of the guy in SC2. | ||
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