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On April 07 2014 05:50 mostevil wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2014 05:48 TotalBiscuit wrote:On April 07 2014 05:46 Wintex wrote:
I wonder if TotalBiscuit is proud of his players, even if they play these styles. The difference between a professional and an amateur is a professional does whatever it takes to win. Winning is quite literally all that matters. I don't pay my players to handicap themselves by not using every build they have at their disposal and any player that does that is not going to get very far. Use what works, simple as that. Balance whine on forums is irrelevant to professional play. That could do with qualification or it sounds a bit Lance Armstrong. It's a fair point, if you win with blink, go blink. It's blizzards problem not cranks.
If that was true as you think there wouldn't be any professional games on Heavy Rain that isn't blink.
It was more of a decision to try something drastic on a terran favored map.
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your Country52798 Posts
On April 07 2014 05:51 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2014 05:47 The_Templar wrote:WCS AM Premier RO16: Group D
 Bomber vs  CranK
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Map: Frost Bomber spawns in the top left Crank spawns in the bottom right 2:00 Crank getting a gateway followed by an assimilator. Bomber constructing a barracks after a gas. 3:00 Factory for Bomber. Crank getting a cybernetics core. Crank expanding. 4:00 Mothership core for Crank. Reactor on Bomber's barracks. Command center for Bomber. Bomber lifting his factory towards the factor. Bomber building hellions. Mothership core kills a scouting SCV. 5:00 Crank scouts an expansion but not the hellions. Barracks is put back on the reactor. Double forge from Crank. Bomber kills probes and scouts with hellions.
6:00 Bomber 34 vs CranK 39
+1/1 with armor for Crank.
Two more assimilators for Crank.
Crank patrolling a stalker on the edge of his main.
Bomber getting a starport.
7:00 Bomber 46 vs CranK 49
Stim for Bomber.
Four more gateways for Crank, as well as a templar archives.
Bomber scans Crank's main.
9:00 Bomber 72 vs CranK 60
+2/2 for Crank.
Bomber getting +1 attack.
Hallucinated phoenixes scouting the map.
Storm for Crank.
10:00 Bomber 91 vs CranK 72
Bomber drops a widow mine in Crank's natural but doesn't manage to kill more than one probe.
Combat shields for Bomber.
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On April 07 2014 05:53 ssxsilver wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2014 05:50 PhoenixVoid wrote:
As much as we hate cheese and Blink play they will always be a consistent part of the game like it or not. Professionals need to win and if the opportunity presents itself to use those builds then why not take it? Nothing wrong with players playing to win, but don't criticize spectators for voicing their hate (so long as it's within reason ofc).
So long as they're directing their hate in the right direction.
Hating on Crank for using tools at his disposal is not acceptable. Hate on Blizzard, it's their problem to fix.
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On April 07 2014 05:54 SoulCapsule wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2014 05:53 TheDwf wrote:On April 07 2014 05:52 Vindicare605 wrote:On April 07 2014 05:51 SoulCapsule wrote:
in before 2forges into hidden base If this was Maru he'd just kill him anyway without even caring about the hidden base. God that game was so good. F2 saving hidden expansions from destruction. does Maru really use F2?
Unsure, but otherwise why would this Marine that was patrolling in the bottom of the map would have stopped doing so? I don't think he had it in a group.
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On April 07 2014 05:53 ssxsilver wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2014 05:50 PhoenixVoid wrote:
As much as we hate cheese and Blink play they will always be a consistent part of the game like it or not. Professionals need to win and if the opportunity presents itself to use those builds then why not take it? Nothing wrong with players playing to win, but don't criticize spectators for voicing their hate (so long as it's within reason ofc).
The problem is, that it never stays within reason for long.
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United States97277 Posts
On April 07 2014 05:54 SoulCapsule wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2014 05:53 TheDwf wrote:On April 07 2014 05:52 Vindicare605 wrote:On April 07 2014 05:51 SoulCapsule wrote:
in before 2forges into hidden base If this was Maru he'd just kill him anyway without even caring about the hidden base. God that game was so good. F2 saving hidden expansions from destruction. does Maru really use F2?
looked like he used it against Dear because he had a marine moving around the map to scout for hidden bases and right before it found it all his units turned and headed for the protoss base
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On April 07 2014 05:55 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2014 05:54 SoulCapsule wrote:On April 07 2014 05:53 TheDwf wrote:On April 07 2014 05:52 Vindicare605 wrote:On April 07 2014 05:51 SoulCapsule wrote:
in before 2forges into hidden base If this was Maru he'd just kill him anyway without even caring about the hidden base. God that game was so good. F2 saving hidden expansions from destruction. does Maru really use F2? Unsure, but otherwise why would this Marine that was patrolling in the bottom of the map would have stopped doing so? I don't think he had it in a group.
yeah Maru actually said in the interview later that he had just a-moved his entire army, including the marine
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On April 07 2014 05:55 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2014 05:54 SoulCapsule wrote:On April 07 2014 05:53 TheDwf wrote:On April 07 2014 05:52 Vindicare605 wrote:On April 07 2014 05:51 SoulCapsule wrote:
in before 2forges into hidden base If this was Maru he'd just kill him anyway without even caring about the hidden base. God that game was so good. F2 saving hidden expansions from destruction. does Maru really use F2? Unsure, but otherwise why would this Marine that was patrolling in the bottom of the map would have stopped doing so? I don't think he had it in a group.
yeah that's what i thought when i saw the game live
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Nice play by Crank in this game
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Cute moves but he's just getting overrun by the money. But his upgrades might just let him winnow.
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These fucking Storms.
Crank has been practicing his drop play with Starbow. He's looking fresh with it.
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Psi Storms on workers makes me sick a little, I feel bad for them.
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Sloppy by Bomber. He forces the Warp prism to drop the HT with a Viking, and leaves his SCVs there to get stormed.
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your Country52798 Posts
On April 07 2014 05:54 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2014 05:51 The_Templar wrote:On April 07 2014 05:47 The_Templar wrote:WCS AM Premier RO16: Group D
Bomber vs CranK
1-1
Map: Frost Bomber spawns in the top left Crank spawns in the bottom right 2:00 Crank getting a gateway followed by an assimilator. Bomber constructing a barracks after a gas. 3:00 Factory for Bomber. Crank getting a cybernetics core. Crank expanding. 4:00 Mothership core for Crank. Reactor on Bomber's barracks. Command center for Bomber. Bomber lifting his factory towards the factor. Bomber building hellions. Mothership core kills a scouting SCV. 5:00 Crank scouts an expansion but not the hellions. Barracks is put back on the reactor. Double forge from Crank. Bomber kills probes and scouts with hellions. 6:00 Bomber 34 vs CranK 39 +1/1 with armor for Crank. Two more assimilators for Crank. Crank patrolling a stalker on the edge of his main. Bomber getting a starport. 7:00 Bomber 46 vs CranK 49 Stim for Bomber. Four more gateways for Crank, as well as a templar archives. Bomber scans Crank's main. 9:00 Bomber 72 vs CranK 60 +2/2 for Crank. Bomber getting +1 attack. Hallucinated phoenixes scouting the map. Storm for Crank. 10:00 Bomber 91 vs CranK 72 Bomber drops a widow mine in Crank's natural but doesn't manage to kill more than one probe. Combat shields for Bomber.
11:00 Bomber 117 vs CranK 88
Bomber going for a large double drop.
Crank has 6 HTs.
Crank harasses the third of Bomber.
12:00 Bomber 135 vs CranK 106
Crank does a storm drop and kills ~15 workers.
Crank harassing with more zealots.
13:00 Bomber 137 vs CranK 110
Turrets for Bomber.
Crank drops the natural with zealots and threatens the main base with the HTs.
Crank storming a bunch of marines in the main of Bomber.
15:00 Bomber 134 vs CranK 115
Crank forces a lift on the third CC and charges into the natural area.
Some storms miss bio and Bomber manages to hold.
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Bomber's too rich. Greed is good.
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MADNESS!
Although Bomber is 40 supply ahead all the time.
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Belgica34432 Posts
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Christ Bomber's macro is insane. He must have lost 100 supply there.
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LOL That army was so badass. Bathing in storms and protoss blood.
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