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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 24 2014 21:12 GMT
#981
On March 25 2014 06:06 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 06:05 ssxsilver wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:04 NovaMB wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:03 stuchiu wrote:
Whats a joker team?

Bounty Hunters

I thought you're allowed to do partnerships (Bounty Hunters team withstanding)?

Its still a bunch of teamless guys + ROCCAT


GEM looks like a team, works like a team and plays like a team. I call it a team.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
March 24 2014 21:13 GMT
#982
So thanks to Starnan (and mYi.Zervas) we finally have players and results for Team Property vs A.I.:


(P)Mekar <Polar Night> (P)Patience
(T)MorroW <Frost> (P)Patience
(P)StarNaN <Yeonsu> (P)Patience
(P)RunA <Habitation Station> (P)Patience
(P)RunA <Heavy Rain> (T)Strelok
(P)RunA <Daedalus Point> (Z)Golden
(T)MorroW <Alterzim Stronghold> (Z)Golden
(T)MorroW <Polar Night> (T)Revenge(not sure this one, at least terran)
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-24 21:15:30
March 24 2014 21:14 GMT
#983
On March 25 2014 06:06 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 06:05 ssxsilver wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:04 NovaMB wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:03 stuchiu wrote:
Whats a joker team?

Bounty Hunters

I thought you're allowed to do partnerships (Bounty Hunters team withstanding)?

Its still a bunch of teamless guys + ROCCAT


It's the +Roccat bit I have a problem with there. Bunch of teamless players form a clan? Alright I can get behind that. Bunch of teamless players form a clan then partner with an actual team? Ermm no, that's not a thing and the whole management agency thing is nonsense as well. Same with XMG. You can't partner with a team that doesn't exist.

The way this should have been done imho is to specify that a partnership must include a team consisting of X minimum players of which Y minimum players must participate.

Don't get me started on Empire partnering with Fnatic and bringing Fnatic into the league without Fnatic actually having to qualify. That's not the same team that played last season, not even close, they should have had to requalify at that point.

GEM looks like a team, works like a team and plays like a team. I call it a team.


A management group is not a team. Bounty Hunters you can argue are a team, GEM is not. Bounty Hunters + HyuN = Bounty Hunters + Joker imho. Partnering with teams for just one player is not ok and definitely fits the Joker rule from last year.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-24 21:18:48
March 24 2014 21:17 GMT
#984
On March 25 2014 06:10 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 06:08 ssxsilver wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:06 NovaMB wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:05 ssxsilver wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:04 NovaMB wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:03 stuchiu wrote:
Whats a joker team?

Bounty Hunters

I thought you're allowed to do partnerships (Bounty Hunters team withstanding)?

Its still a bunch of teamless guys + ROCCAT

No no I mean, TB said two of the joker teams got eliminated so I assume he means XMG-CSN. I haven't followed since the start, was there a rule violation earlier?

The Joker ruler (mercenary from a different team) was revoked this season, but teams found a loophole and "partnered" with player agencies. I guess nobody at TaKeTV took player agencies into account when doing the rulebook

What's the difference between the Joker and Cooperation rule in the rulebook? I agree that the Bounty Hunter team is silly, but Vega-RoX and XMG-CSA (Violet being a mercenary so I can see that as a violation) is just two groups no?

Sorry for asking so many questions, I'm just curious.

Edit: Thanks guys. That makes sense now.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
March 24 2014 21:18 GMT
#985
On March 25 2014 06:17 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 06:10 NovaMB wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:08 ssxsilver wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:06 NovaMB wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:05 ssxsilver wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:04 NovaMB wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:03 stuchiu wrote:
Whats a joker team?

Bounty Hunters

I thought you're allowed to do partnerships (Bounty Hunters team withstanding)?

Its still a bunch of teamless guys + ROCCAT

No no I mean, TB said two of the joker teams got eliminated so I assume he means XMG-CSN. I haven't followed since the start, was there a rule violation earlier?

The Joker ruler (mercenary from a different team) was revoked this season, but teams found a loophole and "partnered" with player agencies. I guess nobody at TaKeTV took player agencies into account when doing the rulebook

What's the difference between the Joker and Cooperation rule in the rulebook? I agree that the Bounty Hunter team is silly, but Vega-RoX and XMG-CSA (Violet being a mercenary so I can see that as a violation) is just two groups no?

Sorry for asking so many questions, I'm just curious.

CSA is a player agency, not a team, Vega-RoX is a partnership between teams, XMG-CSA not so much.
Basically why everyone was upset is the player agency nonsense
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
March 24 2014 21:19 GMT
#986
I wish my liquipedia edits wouldnt need to be approved every time
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-24 21:21:30
March 24 2014 21:20 GMT
#987
On March 25 2014 06:17 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 06:10 NovaMB wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:08 ssxsilver wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:06 NovaMB wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:05 ssxsilver wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:04 NovaMB wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:03 stuchiu wrote:
Whats a joker team?

Bounty Hunters

I thought you're allowed to do partnerships (Bounty Hunters team withstanding)?

Its still a bunch of teamless guys + ROCCAT

No no I mean, TB said two of the joker teams got eliminated so I assume he means XMG-CSN. I haven't followed since the start, was there a rule violation earlier?

The Joker ruler (mercenary from a different team) was revoked this season, but teams found a loophole and "partnered" with player agencies. I guess nobody at TaKeTV took player agencies into account when doing the rulebook

What's the difference between the Joker and Cooperation rule in the rulebook? I agree that the Bounty Hunter team is silly, but Vega-RoX and XMG-CSA (Violet being a mercenary so I can see that as a violation) is just two groups no?

Sorry for asking so many questions, I'm just curious.


The difference is taking two rosters and merging them vs cherry-picking from a roster. Jokers are effectively ringers at that point, plus it causes a bunch of problems when those players can't play in the finals (see Western Wolves getting slaughtered because their Joker San couldn't participate). I really think there should either be a minimum quota of players from the other team you have to field or some other requirement that ensures relatively even participation. If I suddenly announced Axiom-KT and all I did was pay Zest to come and stomp on people, would people be ok with that? They shouldn't be, that's not a partnership, that's hiring a mercenary to do your heavy lifting.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-24 21:20:43
March 24 2014 21:20 GMT
#988
On March 25 2014 06:19 NovaMB wrote:
I wish my liquipedia edits wouldnt need to be approved every time


did you enter the results for AI vs prop? Because I just wanted to do that and they are in the edit but not approved yet :p
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
March 24 2014 21:21 GMT
#989
On March 25 2014 06:20 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 06:19 NovaMB wrote:
I wish my liquipedia edits wouldnt need to be approved every time


did you enter the results for AI vs prop? Because I just wanted to do that and they are in the edit but not approved yet :p

Yep. Fucked up twice though and fixed it. Guess thats why I need approval
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4137 Posts
March 24 2014 21:23 GMT
#990
On March 25 2014 06:14 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
GEM looks like a team, works like a team and plays like a team. I call it a team.


A management group is not a team. Bounty Hunters you can argue are a team, GEM is not. Bounty Hunters + HyuN = Bounty Hunters + Joker imho. Partnering with teams for just one player is not ok and definitely fits the Joker rule from last year.

What about Roccat.Dimaga?
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 24 2014 21:24 GMT
#991
Welmu not a fan of the joker.
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ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
March 24 2014 21:24 GMT
#992
WTF WELMU?!
Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
March 24 2014 21:24 GMT
#993
On March 25 2014 06:23 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 06:14 TotalBiscuit wrote:
GEM looks like a team, works like a team and plays like a team. I call it a team.


A management group is not a team. Bounty Hunters you can argue are a team, GEM is not. Bounty Hunters + HyuN = Bounty Hunters + Joker imho. Partnering with teams for just one player is not ok and definitely fits the Joker rule from last year.

What about Roccat.Dimaga?

Well in theory he is allowed to play.
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
March 24 2014 21:24 GMT
#994
Welmu ain't fucking around
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-24 21:25:08
March 24 2014 21:24 GMT
#995
On March 25 2014 06:21 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 06:20 Yello wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:19 NovaMB wrote:
I wish my liquipedia edits wouldnt need to be approved every time


did you enter the results for AI vs prop? Because I just wanted to do that and they are in the edit but not approved yet :p

Yep. Fucked up twice though and fixed it. Guess thats why I need approval


I think it's for everyone who is still new to doing LP stuff. All my changes have to be approved as well. Keep editing till you get those bronze coins I guess ^.^
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 24 2014 21:25 GMT
#996
Welmu too strong.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
March 24 2014 21:25 GMT
#997
Welmu is insane
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-24 21:25:43
March 24 2014 21:25 GMT
#998
On March 25 2014 06:24 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 06:21 NovaMB wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:20 Yello wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:19 NovaMB wrote:
I wish my liquipedia edits wouldnt need to be approved every time


did you enter the results for AI vs prop? Because I just wanted to do that and they are in the edit but not approved yet :p

Yep. Fucked up twice though and fixed it. Guess thats why I need approval


I think it's for everyone who is still new to doing LP stuff. All my changes have to be approved as well. Keep editing till you get those bronze coins I guess ^.^

But I have a bronze coin already

Also gogogo Welmu!
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
March 24 2014 21:26 GMT
#999
On March 25 2014 06:20 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 06:17 ssxsilver wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:10 NovaMB wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:08 ssxsilver wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:06 NovaMB wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:05 ssxsilver wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:04 NovaMB wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:03 stuchiu wrote:
Whats a joker team?

Bounty Hunters

I thought you're allowed to do partnerships (Bounty Hunters team withstanding)?

Its still a bunch of teamless guys + ROCCAT

No no I mean, TB said two of the joker teams got eliminated so I assume he means XMG-CSN. I haven't followed since the start, was there a rule violation earlier?

The Joker ruler (mercenary from a different team) was revoked this season, but teams found a loophole and "partnered" with player agencies. I guess nobody at TaKeTV took player agencies into account when doing the rulebook

What's the difference between the Joker and Cooperation rule in the rulebook? I agree that the Bounty Hunter team is silly, but Vega-RoX and XMG-CSA (Violet being a mercenary so I can see that as a violation) is just two groups no?

Sorry for asking so many questions, I'm just curious.


The difference is taking two rosters and merging them vs cherry-picking from a roster. Jokers are effectively ringers at that point, plus it causes a bunch of problems when those players can't play in the finals (see Western Wolves getting slaughtered because their Joker San couldn't participate). I really think there should either be a minimum quota of players from the other team you have to field or some other requirement that ensures relatively even participation. If I suddenly announced Axiom-KT and all I did was pay Zest to come and stomp on people, would people be ok with that? They shouldn't be, that's not a partnership, that's hiring a mercenary to do your heavy lifting.

100% agree with what you've been saying the whole time. If you're going to be getting a single player to all-kill for your team do it like Liquid and actually pay the guy.
GreenMash
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway1746 Posts
March 24 2014 21:26 GMT
#1000
WELMU WELMU
I love hellbats
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