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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 21 2014 11:21 GMT
#1561
On March 21 2014 20:19 Snake.69 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 20:17 Incognoto wrote:
If this strat works so well on this map why doesn't zerg all-in before it hits or something?

Sure, what all in do you recommand a zerg doing against a protoss whos sitting on 2 bases and making nothing but sentries and imortal, with warp prism and mothership core of course.

Zerg doesnt have any all in that can kill a protoss making sentries with mothership core before the 10minute mark


There are some crazy risks you can take to beat it.

You can either 10 pool and hope he did Nexus first.

You can roach slow ling all-in on 1 base and hope he doesnt scout.

You can 2 bsae roach slow-ling all-in and hope he skipped his MsC.

You can go 2 base nydus, 10 spines on top of main ramp and nydus afterhe's attacing you and pray you win the base trade.

But all of these are like 5% gambles.
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
March 21 2014 11:21 GMT
#1562
Does the Suppy response still work vs soul train? Mutas are obv weaker due to the MSC, but still seems strong. Just spine up natural like crazy using the drones from the third and only mine gas there.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 21 2014 11:21 GMT
#1563
On March 21 2014 20:20 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 20:19 Undead1993 wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:18 Heartland wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:17 Frex wrote:
Sometimes I feel like switching to protoss and see how long it takes me to get masters with 2 proxy gate vP, soul train vZ and blink all-in vT.



good luck sjow!

you might as well change to hearthstone after weeks trying

but make sure you only play classes in hearthstone that are perceived as weak so you have something to fall back on

But... the hearthstone meta changes like every week
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looken
Profile Joined September 2011
727 Posts
March 21 2014 11:21 GMT
#1564
On March 21 2014 20:20 Nimix wrote:
forfefields are an interefting spell *drools*
Really hope after all those immortal all ins games they'll look into it for LoV.. It's really too stupid to stay, when you get wrecked even when you know it's coming and prepare the best you can there is a problem indeed..

Keep dreaming man! Maybe one day!!
"Jingle Bells, Tasteless smells" Artosis 17.12.15
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
March 21 2014 11:21 GMT
#1565
Since when did balloons flap?
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
b0rt_
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway931 Posts
March 21 2014 11:21 GMT
#1566
I just don't see the point in watching this crap any more.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
March 21 2014 11:21 GMT
#1567
On March 21 2014 20:18 r691175002 wrote:
After watching that I dont think the push is holdable on that map no matter what you do. You get a free choke within forcefield range of the ramp, and firing range of the natural. No way to flank.

Blizzard seriously needs to reevaluate their mapmaking team.


soO was close to holding it. He would have held it if he knocked down the collapsible rocks before parting was there so Parting had to either take the longer way or destroy the rocks himself so then soO would have had one more attack path. If soO had had a little more time for more hydras and his zerglings in for a surround he would have defended.

I really don't understand why it isn't standard for Zerg to destroy the collapsible rock tower with his first 4 zerglings
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
March 21 2014 11:21 GMT
#1568
On March 21 2014 20:21 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 20:20 Shellshock wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:19 Undead1993 wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:18 Heartland wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:17 Frex wrote:
Sometimes I feel like switching to protoss and see how long it takes me to get masters with 2 proxy gate vP, soul train vZ and blink all-in vT.



good luck sjow!

you might as well change to hearthstone after weeks trying

but make sure you only play classes in hearthstone that are perceived as weak so you have something to fall back on

But... the hearthstone meta changes like every week

idk I'm just repeating what people posted in the announcement thread
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
March 21 2014 11:22 GMT
#1569
On March 21 2014 20:21 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 20:18 Zealously wrote:
Hello Paljas, I trust you are well? Leaving the LR thread open and ready to spoil me was unwise. That said, see you in two weeks.

see ya

A god I would pray to
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VmY
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands1286 Posts
March 21 2014 11:22 GMT
#1570
On March 21 2014 20:21 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 20:18 Zealously wrote:
Hello Paljas, I trust you are well? Leaving the LR thread open and ready to spoil me was unwise. That said, see you in two weeks.

see ya


RIP
Why can't I quit you, siege tank? FanTaSy, Mvp.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2958 Posts
March 21 2014 11:22 GMT
#1571
On March 21 2014 20:20 Nimix wrote:
forfefields are an interefting spell *drools*
Really hope after all those immortal all ins games they'll look into it for LoV.. It's really too stupid to stay, when you get wrecked even when you know it's coming and prepare the best you can there is a problem indeed..


Well, it's mainly a map problem.

I mean, yes, Forcefields are stupid, but on decent maps the problem isn't as huge.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
March 21 2014 11:22 GMT
#1572
On March 21 2014 20:21 Hassybaby wrote:
Since when did balloons flap?

Right after you lost your passion
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Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8160 Posts
March 21 2014 11:22 GMT
#1573
Seems like every time I liquibet maru on the ro8 onward he loses
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
VmY
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands1286 Posts
March 21 2014 11:23 GMT
#1574
On March 21 2014 20:22 Jer99 wrote:
Seems like every time I liquibet maru on the ro8 onward he loses


Literally Artosis
Why can't I quit you, siege tank? FanTaSy, Mvp.
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
March 21 2014 11:23 GMT
#1575
Well, I picked SoO 3 - 1. So far, on track.
KT best KT ~ 2014
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
March 21 2014 11:23 GMT
#1576
On March 21 2014 20:21 b0rt_ wrote:
I just don't see the point in watching this crap any more.


So.... don't?
looken
Profile Joined September 2011
727 Posts
March 21 2014 11:23 GMT
#1577
On March 21 2014 20:21 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 20:18 r691175002 wrote:
After watching that I dont think the push is holdable on that map no matter what you do. You get a free choke within forcefield range of the ramp, and firing range of the natural. No way to flank.

Blizzard seriously needs to reevaluate their mapmaking team.


soO was close to holding it. He would have held it if he knocked down the collapsible rocks before parting was there so Parting had to either take the longer way or destroy the rocks himself so then soO would have had one more attack path. If soO had had a little more time for more hydras and his zerglings in for a surround he would have defended.

I really don't understand why it isn't standard for Zerg to destroy the collapsible rock tower with his first 4 zerglings

How would another attack path change anything? He use like 20 out of the 40 FF he had available to him.
"Jingle Bells, Tasteless smells" Artosis 17.12.15
reapsen
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany559 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 11:24:31
March 21 2014 11:23 GMT
#1578
On March 21 2014 20:21 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 20:19 Snake.69 wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:17 Incognoto wrote:
If this strat works so well on this map why doesn't zerg all-in before it hits or something?

Sure, what all in do you recommand a zerg doing against a protoss whos sitting on 2 bases and making nothing but sentries and imortal, with warp prism and mothership core of course.

Zerg doesnt have any all in that can kill a protoss making sentries with mothership core before the 10minute mark


There are some crazy risks you can take to beat it.

You can either 10 pool and hope he did Nexus first.

You can roach slow ling all-in on 1 base and hope he doesnt scout.

You can 2 bsae roach slow-ling all-in and hope he skipped his MsC.

You can go 2 base nydus, 10 spines on top of main ramp and nydus afterhe's attacing you and pray you win the base trade.

But all of these are like 5% gambles.


You can rush overlord drops and drop directly on the protoss army.. that might hover around 7%...

or good old 7RR from back in the day :D
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
March 21 2014 11:24 GMT
#1579
On March 21 2014 20:22 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 20:21 Hassybaby wrote:
Since when did balloons flap?

Right after you lost your passion


Damn son. These guys better file for copyright, because Flappy Balloon's been out for yeeeeeeeeeears
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
March 21 2014 11:24 GMT
#1580
On March 21 2014 20:21 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 20:19 Snake.69 wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:17 Incognoto wrote:
If this strat works so well on this map why doesn't zerg all-in before it hits or something?

Sure, what all in do you recommand a zerg doing against a protoss whos sitting on 2 bases and making nothing but sentries and imortal, with warp prism and mothership core of course.

Zerg doesnt have any all in that can kill a protoss making sentries with mothership core before the 10minute mark


There are some crazy risks you can take to beat it.

You can either 10 pool and hope he did Nexus first.

You can roach slow ling all-in on 1 base and hope he doesnt scout.

You can 2 bsae roach slow-ling all-in and hope he skipped his MsC.

You can go 2 base nydus, 10 spines on top of main ramp and nydus afterhe's attacing you and pray you win the base trade.

But all of these are like 5% gambles.

You can also use soO's villain stare and win because your opponent is busy begging for mercy.
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