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i.of.the.storm
Profile Joined April 2009
United States795 Posts
February 21 2014 09:59 GMT
#601
On February 21 2014 18:57 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 18:56 Big J wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:53 vthree wrote:
Serious, so many protoss are afraid of the blink cool down nerf. But nothing in that game made the blink cool down necessary...


What? everytime he was inside Marus base he was waiting for the cooldown to finish and lost units in the progress. When he was chasing the units in the middle, he was waiting for it to finish so he could blink forward first, and backwards later on.
There were so many situations in that game where +5seconds on blink might have been desastrous for classic!


Yea, he'd have to switch builds completely into one of the other 4-5 viable PvT builds.


Heaven forbid a Protoss actually have to commit to offensive play and the risks it entails.
Maru - The Terran hope is alive!
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 21 2014 09:59 GMT
#602
On February 21 2014 18:57 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 18:57 bo1b wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:54 Qwerty85 wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:53 teamamerica wrote:
I wonder how Classic vs Polt would do. Imo Polt goes into ghosts a bit quicker the Maru but he also tries to play a really drop heavy aggressive style, and Classic just handles this shit.

I don't know any Protoss outside Rain maybe who would have lost so little to Polts aggro from game 1. More power to Classic I guess. Glad to see such high level Protoss play.



Confirmed for no passion.


He's teamamerica not teameurope fool

Yeah but qxc and Polt were both there if you are American and you weren't watching gtfo communist.

I was watching, I got banned you corporatist pig
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
February 21 2014 09:59 GMT
#603
On February 21 2014 18:53 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 18:53 teamamerica wrote:
I wonder how Classic vs Polt would do. Imo Polt goes into ghosts a bit quicker the Maru but he also tries to play a really drop heavy aggressive style, and Classic just handles this shit.

I don't know any Protoss outside Rain maybe who would have lost so little to Polts aggro from game 1. More power to Classic I guess. Glad to see such high level Protoss play.


Polt already beat Classic at IEM


Haha, funny how this works. "Hey, I saw/heard Polt being a few good P lately... I wonder how he would do against this one!"
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
February 21 2014 09:59 GMT
#604
On February 21 2014 18:58 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 18:57 aZealot wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:55 tar wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:55 aZealot wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:53 opterown wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:52 dainbramage wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:50 opterown wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:50 Die4Ever wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:49 opterown wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:48 Talionis wrote:
Hallucinated colossus for high ground vision

a god

why not phoenix

hallu colossus soaks more damage anyways

yeah but costs more energy -> less FF

Isn't halluc 100 energy for all units?

oh i thought it cost more for bigger units


No, it is the same for all units. But, IIRC, you get two zealots for the price of one Hallucination. All the rest are single units.

you even get 4 probes!


Thanks, I've never considered hallucinating probes!

I've seen a few people do them as a manner mule type play


When I play protoss, I hallucinate 16 probes while going for an all-in. Then rally them, in his vision, to my pretend expansion.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
February 21 2014 09:59 GMT
#605
On February 21 2014 18:57 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 18:54 Qwerty85 wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:53 teamamerica wrote:
I wonder how Classic vs Polt would do. Imo Polt goes into ghosts a bit quicker the Maru but he also tries to play a really drop heavy aggressive style, and Classic just handles this shit.

I don't know any Protoss outside Rain maybe who would have lost so little to Polts aggro from game 1. More power to Classic I guess. Glad to see such high level Protoss play.



Confirmed for no passion.


He's teamamerica not teameurope fool


Ok beat this if you can: QXC and the mouse incident. Every Murican should have watched that.
As I said #noPassion
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
February 21 2014 09:59 GMT
#606
On February 21 2014 18:56 Big J wrote:
Btw, remove Colossus, force every Protoss to play like that! Such a great series!


Nerf Medivacs and Ghosts; buff Storm and maybe...

KT best KT ~ 2014
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
February 21 2014 09:59 GMT
#607
On February 21 2014 18:57 aZealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 18:55 tar wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:55 aZealot wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:53 opterown wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:52 dainbramage wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:50 opterown wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:50 Die4Ever wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:49 opterown wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:48 Talionis wrote:
Hallucinated colossus for high ground vision

a god

why not phoenix

hallu colossus soaks more damage anyways

yeah but costs more energy -> less FF

Isn't halluc 100 energy for all units?

oh i thought it cost more for bigger units


No, it is the same for all units. But, IIRC, you get two zealots for the price of one Hallucination. All the rest are single units.

you even get 4 probes!


Thanks, I've never considered hallucinating probes!


Hallucinate HT's to make it impossible to EMP/snipe all the real ones.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 21 2014 09:59 GMT
#608
On February 21 2014 18:59 Ghanburighan wrote:
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On February 21 2014 18:53 Darkhorse wrote:
Shit but Classic is really good. Hopefully Maru does well in TvZ


Hahahahahaa

...Explain yourself if you're just going to do that please. Or just don't do it.
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Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3711 Posts
February 21 2014 09:59 GMT
#609
On February 21 2014 18:55 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 18:54 Lorch wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:53 Shellshock wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:53 teamamerica wrote:
I wonder how Classic vs Polt would do. Imo Polt goes into ghosts a bit quicker the Maru but he also tries to play a really drop heavy aggressive style, and Classic just handles this shit.

I don't know any Protoss outside Rain maybe who would have lost so little to Polts aggro from game 1. More power to Classic I guess. Glad to see such high level Protoss play.


Polt already beat Classic at IEM


In a weekend tournament with no preparation and classic being outside of Korea for the first time in his life. I think what he meant was have classic and polt face off in a decent environment.


Classic was already in Cologne for a few days. How is the ESL studio not a decent enviroment.


I didn't say jetlagged I said it was his first time outside of Korea and Rain even talked about having to comfort Classic due to this. First and for most it doesn't even have booths, but my main point is rather that beating someone by 1 map with little to no preparation for that match is very different to having 1+ week to prepare for 1 opponent, so just because polt beat classic at IEM doesn't necessarily mean he would have performed better than Maru if he had played Classic today.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
February 21 2014 09:59 GMT
#610
On February 21 2014 18:56 Big J wrote:
Btw, remove Colossus, force every Protoss to play like that! Such a great series!

Yeah, out of last 10 TvP's I was watching, like 2-3 had Colossi in them, and all other games were amazing with constant back and forth action, harassment, fighting all over the map.
One can always hope that they will do something "interesting" with the Colossi, since removing them is impossible, it is Blizzard after all we are talking about.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
CutTheEnemy
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada373 Posts
February 21 2014 09:59 GMT
#611
Maru's micro in game 1 was impossible. I can't believe he lost. Classic is bad-ass, but still...
Can we help spread the word and create pressure to get Rob Pardo to replace Browder as head of Sc2? Pardo led the team for broodwar, frozen throne, and wow/BC. We need to make this a thing before LotV development starts. Think about it.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
February 21 2014 10:00 GMT
#612
I hope all the Protoss are sorry.

Poor Maru. Hopefully he can stomp himself some Z to make RO16.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-21 10:01:05
February 21 2014 10:00 GMT
#613
The thing is: Terran is on the back foot for the early game (oracles, dts) and a part of the midgame (blink). So it's hard for the terran to do any damage to the protoss at these points. This lets the protoss get a fast Templar's Archive, which means fast HT and Archons. But terran probably lost workers to harass earlier in the game, making it harder to get ghosts.

So unless the terran shuts down the early game shenanigans completely, I don't see terran winning against this style a lot.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 21 2014 10:00 GMT
#614
On February 21 2014 18:59 Ketch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 18:53 Shellshock wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:53 teamamerica wrote:
I wonder how Classic vs Polt would do. Imo Polt goes into ghosts a bit quicker the Maru but he also tries to play a really drop heavy aggressive style, and Classic just handles this shit.

I don't know any Protoss outside Rain maybe who would have lost so little to Polts aggro from game 1. More power to Classic I guess. Glad to see such high level Protoss play.


Polt already beat Classic at IEM


Haha, funny how this works. "Hey, I saw/heard Polt being a few good P lately... I wonder how he would do against this one!"


Classic Faceless Korean Syndrome.
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tar
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany991 Posts
February 21 2014 10:00 GMT
#615
On February 21 2014 18:57 aZealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 18:55 tar wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:55 aZealot wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:53 opterown wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:52 dainbramage wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:50 opterown wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:50 Die4Ever wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:49 opterown wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:48 Talionis wrote:
Hallucinated colossus for high ground vision

a god

why not phoenix

hallu colossus soaks more damage anyways

yeah but costs more energy -> less FF

Isn't halluc 100 energy for all units?

oh i thought it cost more for bigger units


No, it is the same for all units. But, IIRC, you get two zealots for the price of one Hallucination. All the rest are single units.

you even get 4 probes!


Thanks, I've never considered hallucinating probes!



I think I once did a fake probe slide on whirlwind which achieved absolutely nil
whoever I pick for my anti team turns gosu
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
February 21 2014 10:00 GMT
#616
On February 21 2014 18:59 aZealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 18:56 Big J wrote:
Btw, remove Colossus, force every Protoss to play like that! Such a great series!


Nerf Medivacs and Ghosts; buff Storm and maybe...



lol.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
February 21 2014 10:00 GMT
#617
On February 21 2014 18:56 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 18:53 vthree wrote:
Serious, so many protoss are afraid of the blink cool down nerf. But nothing in that game made the blink cool down necessary...


What? everytime he was inside Marus base he was waiting for the cooldown to finish and lost units in the progress. When he was chasing the units in the middle, he was waiting for it to finish so he could blink forward first, and backwards later on.
There were so many situations in that game where +5seconds on blink might have been desastrous for classic!


Yeah imagine an all in build actually being risky and committal for the attacker.
That would be so wrong....
random hero
Profile Joined October 2013
Germany31 Posts
February 21 2014 10:00 GMT
#618
On February 21 2014 18:58 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 18:57 Kasaraki wrote:
This goddamn music. x_x





Wow, you made it even worse. Thats an achievement´!
1984 is now
teamamerica
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States958 Posts
February 21 2014 10:00 GMT
#619
On February 21 2014 18:57 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 18:57 bo1b wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:54 Qwerty85 wrote:
On February 21 2014 18:53 teamamerica wrote:
I wonder how Classic vs Polt would do. Imo Polt goes into ghosts a bit quicker the Maru but he also tries to play a really drop heavy aggressive style, and Classic just handles this shit.

I don't know any Protoss outside Rain maybe who would have lost so little to Polts aggro from game 1. More power to Classic I guess. Glad to see such high level Protoss play.



Confirmed for no passion.


He's teamamerica not teameurope fool

Yeah but qxc and Polt were both there if you are American and you weren't watching gtfo communist.


Hahahaha I'll make it up to Polt! Watching it now.
RIP GOMTV. RIP PROLEAGUE.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16127 Posts
February 21 2014 10:01 GMT
#620
I missed the first set. Anyone got a quick sum up of what happened? Macro games? Blink All ins? Oracles?
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
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