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Okay calm down folks, stop balance whining or the bans are going to get long. |
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On February 17 2014 03:26 Baroninthetree wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 03:25 Bam Lee wrote: Please guys stop balance whining. This was just a beautiful PvT No this is a disgusting PvT, painful to watch such passive rain style. Then again, its always his style.
I personally love watching Rain play.
It is so smart and safe and he always knows what is going on with his observer play.
When you combine solid builds, constant knowledge and great execution you get a fantastic player like Rain.
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Seems as though if polt had somehow saved his ghosts in that engagement instead of losing them to the colossus, the game could have been a lot different
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On February 17 2014 03:26 Baroninthetree wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 03:25 Bam Lee wrote: Please guys stop balance whining. This was just a beautiful PvT No this is a disgusting PvT, painful to watch such passive rain style. Then again, its always his style. What is he supposed to do against sensor tower/Pf and Polt running a squad into his bases any time he tries to move out? Please.
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On February 17 2014 03:25 SiroKO wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 03:24 ffadicted wrote:On February 17 2014 03:23 Zenbrez wrote:On February 17 2014 03:21 kusto wrote: How is polt supposed to win this? Not having a pathetic amount of production all game long, especially with 6 bases would be a good start. Exactly, this was Polt's downfall Polt was never floating high in gaz or minerals after having trade his main army.
Don't bother. He'll nitpick at everything, even with contrary evidence, and then side-step into other arguments as if having made a point.
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such a beautiful pvt~!!! 
User was temp banned for this post.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Production wasn't why Polt lost. Let it go.
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On February 17 2014 03:26 juvenal wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 03:24 bo1b wrote:On February 17 2014 03:20 shid0x wrote:On February 17 2014 03:18 juvenal wrote: TIL: rain never uses the "select all army units" key. Defended everywhere. Any pro should not use this hotkey i think. I didn't think anyone used it above diamond almost all z pros use it all the time, majority of t players too, check the fp-streams. Protoss obviously is the most demanding in terms of static defense, p players should rarely use it. Even someone like stephano, who's hardly known for being mechanically gifted (with 4 fucking hotkeys total) didn't select his entire army with that button. I don't watch a lot of streams though to be fair, so maybe most z pros use it. Doubt it though
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On February 17 2014 03:26 juvenal wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 03:24 bo1b wrote:On February 17 2014 03:20 shid0x wrote:On February 17 2014 03:18 juvenal wrote: TIL: rain never uses the "select all army units" key. Defended everywhere. Any pro should not use this hotkey i think. I didn't think anyone used it above diamond almost all z pros use it all the time, majority of t players too, check the fp-streams. Protoss obviously is the most demanding in terms of static defense, p players should rarely use it.
But that's retarded. I play Terran myself and i can't see how the ''select all unit'' can be useful. By using that all your drops are gonna go full retard, any kind of multiple front attack you have prepared will not work, also it messes up unit priority (selecting ghost before bioball first ). Lastly you always need a few marines at home to defend against drops or whatever.
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On February 17 2014 03:29 stuchiu wrote: Production wasn't why Polt lost. Let it go. it was a terrible unit composition that made him lose every fight
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On February 17 2014 03:29 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 03:26 juvenal wrote:On February 17 2014 03:24 bo1b wrote:On February 17 2014 03:20 shid0x wrote:On February 17 2014 03:18 juvenal wrote: TIL: rain never uses the "select all army units" key. Defended everywhere. Any pro should not use this hotkey i think. I didn't think anyone used it above diamond almost all z pros use it all the time, majority of t players too, check the fp-streams. Protoss obviously is the most demanding in terms of static defense, p players should rarely use it. Even someone like stephano, who's hardly known for being mechanically gifted (with 4 fucking hotkeys total) didn't select his entire army with that button. I don't watch a lot of streams though to be fair, so maybe most z pros use it. Doubt it though jd uses it apparently (changed it to cap lock)
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On February 17 2014 03:29 shid0x wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 03:26 juvenal wrote:On February 17 2014 03:24 bo1b wrote:On February 17 2014 03:20 shid0x wrote:On February 17 2014 03:18 juvenal wrote: TIL: rain never uses the "select all army units" key. Defended everywhere. Any pro should not use this hotkey i think. I didn't think anyone used it above diamond almost all z pros use it all the time, majority of t players too, check the fp-streams. Protoss obviously is the most demanding in terms of static defense, p players should rarely use it. But that's retarded. I play Terran myself and i can't see how the ''select all unit'' can be useful. By using that all your drops are gonna go full retard, any kind of multiple front attack you have prepared will not work, also it messes up unit priority (selecting ghost before bioball first ). Also you always need a few marines at home to defend against drops or whatever.
Works great for deathballers.
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On February 17 2014 03:26 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 03:24 TheDwf wrote:On February 17 2014 03:23 Zenbrez wrote:On February 17 2014 03:21 kusto wrote: How is polt supposed to win this? Not having a pathetic amount of production all game long, especially with 6 bases would be a good start. Terran doesn't work like Zerg or Protoss, you know. It's funny how people don't realise you cant just make 25 barracks with reactors and pump out 50 marines at a time Bomber comes pretty close.
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TLADT24920 Posts
haven't watched most of IEM but glad to see Jaedong doing well. Also, Inno lost to HerO? what? unexpected >.> Either way, let's go Polt. Jaedong vs Polt finals with Jaedong winning 3-0 would be nice lol
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On February 17 2014 03:28 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 03:26 Baroninthetree wrote:On February 17 2014 03:25 Bam Lee wrote: Please guys stop balance whining. This was just a beautiful PvT No this is a disgusting PvT, painful to watch such passive rain style. Then again, its always his style. I personally love watching Rain play. It is so smart and safe and he always knows what is going on with his observer play. When you combine solid builds, constant knowledge and great execution you get a fantastic player like Rain. i admit it's the most solid play. Just not that entertaining. Saturated on 3 based, built an unbreakable army and take one base at a time, then push out, regardless of how terran response. I prefer hero Hero or MC's play much better.
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On February 17 2014 03:26 Frex wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 03:18 juvenal wrote: TIL: rain never uses the "select all army units" key. Defended everywhere. It is not that surprising. It didn´t even exist till HotS. Every single player that has played longer time has not used "select all army units" most of their career.
well that's wrong reasoning, professional players are effectively obligated to use new features if they're somehow useful. I don't use it (because pride!!), but it's quite useful for gathering reinforcements for example, or selecting all the swarmhosts on the map etc. etc.
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On February 17 2014 03:30 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 03:29 bo1b wrote:On February 17 2014 03:26 juvenal wrote:On February 17 2014 03:24 bo1b wrote:On February 17 2014 03:20 shid0x wrote:On February 17 2014 03:18 juvenal wrote: TIL: rain never uses the "select all army units" key. Defended everywhere. Any pro should not use this hotkey i think. I didn't think anyone used it above diamond almost all z pros use it all the time, majority of t players too, check the fp-streams. Protoss obviously is the most demanding in terms of static defense, p players should rarely use it. Even someone like stephano, who's hardly known for being mechanically gifted (with 4 fucking hotkeys total) didn't select his entire army with that button. I don't watch a lot of streams though to be fair, so maybe most z pros use it. Doubt it though jd uses it apparently (changed it to cap lock) He must know something I don't then, cause ling/hydra/ultra/infestor/queen simply doesn't work with 1 hotkey
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your Country52797 Posts
On February 17 2014 03:27 The_Templar wrote:IEM Cologne: RO4
Polt vs Rain 0-1
Map: Polar Night Polt spawns in the bottom Rain spawns in the top 2:00 Two assimilators after a gateway for Rain. Polt going barracks/refinery. Rain getting a cybernetics core. Polt starting a reaper.
3:00 Rain getting a zealot. Polt expanding. Rain getting a stalker and a mothership core.
4:00 Polt building a bunker at his natural. Polt getting two more barracks. Rain getting a twilight council and expanding.
5:00 Rain getting two more gateways. Rain researching blink. Rain getting warp gate.
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On February 17 2014 03:28 plogamer wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 03:25 SiroKO wrote:On February 17 2014 03:24 ffadicted wrote:On February 17 2014 03:23 Zenbrez wrote:On February 17 2014 03:21 kusto wrote: How is polt supposed to win this? Not having a pathetic amount of production all game long, especially with 6 bases would be a good start. Exactly, this was Polt's downfall Polt was never floating high in gaz or minerals after having trade his main army. Don't bother. He'll nitpick at everything, even with contrary evidence, and then side-step into other arguments as if having made a point.
It's not a matter of nitpicking lol It's pointing out mistakes when ppl say "omigawd polt played puurfect nothin else he cud do toss OPOPPOP", which is silly. And I'll often move on from arguments, yes. Unlike most ppl in the internet, I don't keep arguing against people who I know will never listen because they're so locked in their blinded ways tbh.
Anyway who isn't kidding themselves knwos that, while TvP is extremely tough, Rain was the better player with lesser mistakes that match and Polt made critical mistakes which eventually led to his loss.
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I love the Polt counter attack vs blink attacks. Just so risky!
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On February 17 2014 03:30 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 03:26 bo1b wrote:On February 17 2014 03:24 TheDwf wrote:On February 17 2014 03:23 Zenbrez wrote:On February 17 2014 03:21 kusto wrote: How is polt supposed to win this? Not having a pathetic amount of production all game long, especially with 6 bases would be a good start. Terran doesn't work like Zerg or Protoss, you know. It's funny how people don't realise you cant just make 25 barracks with reactors and pump out 50 marines at a time Bomber comes pretty close. bomber makes 15 marines in a cycle sometimes, thats pretty different to 50
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