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Okay calm down folks, stop balance whining or the bans are going to get long.
SiroKO
Profile Joined February 2012
France721 Posts
February 16 2014 18:25 GMT
#3081
On February 17 2014 03:24 ffadicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 03:23 Zenbrez wrote:
On February 17 2014 03:21 kusto wrote:
How is polt supposed to win this?

Not having a pathetic amount of production all game long, especially with 6 bases would be a good start.


Exactly, this was Polt's downfall

Polt was never floating high in gaz or minerals after having trade his main army.
Our envy always last longer than the happiness of those we envy
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
February 16 2014 18:26 GMT
#3082
Excellent game 1, now 4 more just like that
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
lopido
Profile Joined December 2013
Canada245 Posts
February 16 2014 18:26 GMT
#3083
Polt go back to america, you dont deserve to be in Katowice
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 16 2014 18:26 GMT
#3084
On February 17 2014 03:24 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 03:23 Zenbrez wrote:
On February 17 2014 03:21 kusto wrote:
How is polt supposed to win this?

Not having a pathetic amount of production all game long, especially with 6 bases would be a good start.

Terran doesn't work like Zerg or Protoss, you know.

It's funny how people don't realise you cant just make 25 barracks with reactors and pump out 50 marines at a time
Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
February 16 2014 18:26 GMT
#3085
On February 17 2014 03:25 Bam Lee wrote:
Please guys stop balance whining. This was just a beautiful PvT

No this is a disgusting PvT, painful to watch such passive rain style. Then again, its always his style.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
February 16 2014 18:26 GMT
#3086
On February 17 2014 03:24 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 03:23 Zenbrez wrote:
On February 17 2014 03:21 kusto wrote:
How is polt supposed to win this?

Not having a pathetic amount of production all game long, especially with 6 bases would be a good start.

Terran doesn't work like Zerg or Protoss, you know.

Not identically, obviously. Is that a legitimate reason to produce 12 supply per cycle?
Refer to my post.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
February 16 2014 18:26 GMT
#3087
On February 17 2014 03:26 lopido wrote:
Polt go back to america, you dont deserve to be in Katowice

Really? REALLY?
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
February 16 2014 18:26 GMT
#3088
On February 17 2014 03:24 bo1b wrote:
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On February 17 2014 03:20 shid0x wrote:
On February 17 2014 03:18 juvenal wrote:
TIL: rain never uses the "select all army units" key. Defended everywhere.


Any pro should not use this hotkey i think.

I didn't think anyone used it above diamond

almost all z pros use it all the time, majority of t players too, check the fp-streams. Protoss obviously is the most demanding in terms of static defense, p players should rarely use it.
Michael Probu
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3399 Posts
February 16 2014 18:26 GMT
#3089
On February 17 2014 03:24 cpower wrote:
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On February 17 2014 03:21 kusto wrote:
How is polt supposed to win this?

sky terran instead of banking 4000/2000 resource

Skyterran falls to tempest/templar.
I'd suggest refusing NR15 agreements.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 16 2014 18:26 GMT
#3090
Cheese this game? I could see it happening
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Frex
Profile Joined March 2012
Finland888 Posts
February 16 2014 18:26 GMT
#3091
On February 17 2014 03:18 juvenal wrote:
TIL: rain never uses the "select all army units" key. Defended everywhere.


It is not that surprising. It didn´t even exist till HotS. Every single player that has played longer time has not used "select all army units" most of their career.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 16 2014 18:27 GMT
#3092
On February 17 2014 03:25 ffadicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 03:24 TheDwf wrote:
On February 17 2014 03:23 Zenbrez wrote:
On February 17 2014 03:21 kusto wrote:
How is polt supposed to win this?

Not having a pathetic amount of production all game long, especially with 6 bases would be a good start.

Terran doesn't work like Zerg or Protoss, you know.


Everybody knows that lol Doesn't change the fact that it's 30 minutes into the game with like 6 bases and you've already started throwing out SCVs and you still have 8 rax to produce off of. Any non-biased terran would admit that was a mistake by Polt tbh

Lategame TvP doesn't play upon remax, but upon building a Ghosts/Vikings army, and 8 rax 2-3 port is fine for that.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
February 16 2014 18:27 GMT
#3093
IEM Cologne: RO4

(T)Polt vs (P)Rain
0-1


Map: Polar Night


Polt spawns in the bottom
Rain spawns in the top
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
cpower
Profile Joined October 2013
228 Posts
February 16 2014 18:27 GMT
#3094
On February 17 2014 03:25 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 03:24 cpower wrote:
On February 17 2014 03:21 kusto wrote:
How is polt supposed to win this?

sky terran instead of banking 4000/2000 resource

Yeah, because Terran air is so good vs Tempests/Templars + Archons...

so MMM is good vs toss tier 3 units?
ThePlagueJG
Profile Joined May 2013
Sweden1010 Posts
February 16 2014 18:27 GMT
#3095
Even as a terran it sucks to read the LR right now People cant appreciate this game and only want to points out how OP a race is :/
ThorZaIN | NaNiwa | SaSe | PartinG | sOs | Jaedong | sOs restored passion!
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 16 2014 18:27 GMT
#3096
On February 17 2014 03:25 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 03:25 bo1b wrote:
On February 17 2014 03:23 Godwrath wrote:
On February 17 2014 03:21 Fission wrote:
On February 17 2014 03:20 Godwrath wrote:
On February 17 2014 03:19 Fission wrote:
I'm a bit dissapointed in polt. A player of his quality should know that you shouldn't play late game vs Protoss, let alone a master of P lategame like Skt.Rain

You are wrong, P lategame is possible, if you get to a critical amount of CCs so you can be trading the whole time.


I'm sorry but this is just low-league nonsense reasoning. There are hardly any examples of terran players winning late game vs code S level P at all.

Just check the games when taeja destroyed Rain.

So to win late game you need to get into an incredible advantage midgame?

Pretty much. The point is if polt wasn't that overeager, he had the chance to do it, since Rain plays too safe to get advantadges midgame.

So why'd you say "You are wrong, P lategame is possible, if you get to a critical amount of CCs so you can be trading the whole time" to "I'm a bit dissapointed in polt. A player of his quality should know that you shouldn't play late game vs Protoss, let alone a master of P lategame like Skt.Rain"
Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
February 16 2014 18:27 GMT
#3097
On February 17 2014 03:25 SiroKO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 03:24 ffadicted wrote:
On February 17 2014 03:23 Zenbrez wrote:
On February 17 2014 03:21 kusto wrote:
How is polt supposed to win this?

Not having a pathetic amount of production all game long, especially with 6 bases would be a good start.


Exactly, this was Polt's downfall

Polt was never floating high in gaz or minerals after having trade his main army.

exactly, his macro is always just on point. Its rain who is floating money all the time because he lost barely anything.
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
February 16 2014 18:27 GMT
#3098
On February 17 2014 03:26 Baroninthetree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 03:25 Bam Lee wrote:
Please guys stop balance whining. This was just a beautiful PvT

No this is a disgusting PvT, painful to watch such passive rain style. Then again, its always his style.

Do you realise that 90% of P would crumble from multipronged attacks from Polt? Rain kept his cool and drove this one home, Polt was really close despite the final death animation of 5 minutes.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 16 2014 18:27 GMT
#3099
On February 17 2014 03:26 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 03:24 TheDwf wrote:
On February 17 2014 03:23 Zenbrez wrote:
On February 17 2014 03:21 kusto wrote:
How is polt supposed to win this?

Not having a pathetic amount of production all game long, especially with 6 bases would be a good start.

Terran doesn't work like Zerg or Protoss, you know.

Not identically, obviously. Is that a legitimate reason to produce 12 supply per cycle?

5 Marauders + 6 Marines + 6 port supply = 22 in my book.
Eliezar
Profile Joined May 2004
United States481 Posts
February 16 2014 18:27 GMT
#3100
I think Polt has had the best play I've seen so far in this tournament. Rain is doing the Rain thing of coming up with winning and uncommon end game unit combinations though. That game was awesome.
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