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Okay calm down folks, stop balance whining or the bans are going to get long.
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3382 Posts
February 16 2014 18:24 GMT
#3061
On February 17 2014 03:22 kusto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 03:21 kusto wrote:
How is polt supposed to win this?



Yes, i wonder why he doesn't make Ghosts...

Can't afford them.
He build them earlier but Rain kept too many observers and they got fried.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 16 2014 18:24 GMT
#3062
On February 17 2014 03:23 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 03:21 kusto wrote:
How is polt supposed to win this?

Not having a pathetic amount of production all game long, especially with 6 bases would be a good start.

Terran doesn't work like Zerg or Protoss, you know.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
February 16 2014 18:24 GMT
#3063
Great game!
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
February 16 2014 18:24 GMT
#3064
On February 17 2014 03:21 Fission wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 03:20 Godwrath wrote:
On February 17 2014 03:19 Fission wrote:
I'm a bit dissapointed in polt. A player of his quality should know that you shouldn't play late game vs Protoss, let alone a master of P lategame like Skt.Rain

You are wrong, P lategame is possible, if you get to a critical amount of CCs so you can be trading the whole time.


I'm sorry but this is just low-league nonsense reasoning. There are hardly any examples of terran players winning late game vs code S level P at all.

Polt just destroyed Classic yesterday.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
February 16 2014 18:24 GMT
#3065
On February 17 2014 03:24 Storm-Giant wrote:
Rain played much better than Polt. amazing reactions :O

Much better? Not really.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
February 16 2014 18:24 GMT
#3066
On February 17 2014 03:23 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 03:21 kusto wrote:
How is polt supposed to win this?

Not having a pathetic amount of production all game long, especially with 6 bases would be a good start.


Exactly, this was Polt's downfall
SooYoung-Noona!
cpower
Profile Joined October 2013
228 Posts
February 16 2014 18:24 GMT
#3067
On February 17 2014 03:21 kusto wrote:
How is polt supposed to win this?

sky terran instead of banking 4000/2000 resource
GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
February 16 2014 18:25 GMT
#3068
Great play by Rain, he had a solid drop defence and some sick storms.
JD is BONJWA!
Rescawen
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland1028 Posts
February 16 2014 18:25 GMT
#3069
if rain were a digimon he would be wargreymon!
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
February 16 2014 18:25 GMT
#3070
Please guys stop balance whining. This was just a beautiful PvT
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 16 2014 18:25 GMT
#3071
On February 17 2014 03:23 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 03:21 Fission wrote:
On February 17 2014 03:20 Godwrath wrote:
On February 17 2014 03:19 Fission wrote:
I'm a bit dissapointed in polt. A player of his quality should know that you shouldn't play late game vs Protoss, let alone a master of P lategame like Skt.Rain

You are wrong, P lategame is possible, if you get to a critical amount of CCs so you can be trading the whole time.


I'm sorry but this is just low-league nonsense reasoning. There are hardly any examples of terran players winning late game vs code S level P at all.

Just check the games when taeja destroyed Rain.

So to win late game you need to get into an incredible advantage midgame?
Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
February 16 2014 18:25 GMT
#3072
On February 17 2014 03:23 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 03:21 Fission wrote:
On February 17 2014 03:20 Godwrath wrote:
On February 17 2014 03:19 Fission wrote:
I'm a bit dissapointed in polt. A player of his quality should know that you shouldn't play late game vs Protoss, let alone a master of P lategame like Skt.Rain

You are wrong, P lategame is possible, if you get to a critical amount of CCs so you can be trading the whole time.


I'm sorry but this is just low-league nonsense reasoning. There are hardly any examples of terran players winning late game vs code S level P at all.

Just check the games when taeja destroyed Rain.

which is long before the patch bear in mind. And even that, thats one game only throughout entire year, So be logic
architecture
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States643 Posts
February 16 2014 18:25 GMT
#3073
The problem with late game TvP is that you need to trade well, but it's super hard to find a good position to get a good trade. The toss army moves with fewer constraints, the T army needs to move slow and constantly watch for storm flanks. So for T to get anywhere, P can just dodge and not be there.
tpfkan
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 16 2014 18:25 GMT
#3074
On February 17 2014 03:24 cpower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 03:21 kusto wrote:
How is polt supposed to win this?

sky terran instead of banking 4000/2000 resource

Yeah, because Terran air is so good vs Tempests/Templars + Archons...
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
February 16 2014 18:25 GMT
#3075
On February 17 2014 03:24 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 03:23 Zenbrez wrote:
On February 17 2014 03:21 kusto wrote:
How is polt supposed to win this?

Not having a pathetic amount of production all game long, especially with 6 bases would be a good start.

Terran doesn't work like Zerg or Protoss, you know.


Everybody knows that lol Doesn't change the fact that it's 30 minutes into the game with like 6 bases and you've already started throwing out SCVs and you still have 8 rax to produce off of. Any non-biased terran would admit that was a mistake by Polt tbh
SooYoung-Noona!
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
February 16 2014 18:25 GMT
#3076
On February 17 2014 03:24 SoFrOsTy wrote:
Imagine if Polt made ghots and/or dodged storms. I really think he could have had that game. Just during engagments he eats storms pretty hard.

Indeed, at least he could have made a few Ghosts in the end, would help a ton against all those Archons.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
February 16 2014 18:25 GMT
#3077
this looks like Rain's PvT in the first half of 2013. No matter how well the terran plays, he still has the upper hand in most defenses & engagements
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
February 16 2014 18:25 GMT
#3078
jeeeesus that was an insane game
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10137 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 18:26:18
February 16 2014 18:25 GMT
#3079
On February 17 2014 03:25 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 03:23 Godwrath wrote:
On February 17 2014 03:21 Fission wrote:
On February 17 2014 03:20 Godwrath wrote:
On February 17 2014 03:19 Fission wrote:
I'm a bit dissapointed in polt. A player of his quality should know that you shouldn't play late game vs Protoss, let alone a master of P lategame like Skt.Rain

You are wrong, P lategame is possible, if you get to a critical amount of CCs so you can be trading the whole time.


I'm sorry but this is just low-league nonsense reasoning. There are hardly any examples of terran players winning late game vs code S level P at all.

Just check the games when taeja destroyed Rain.

So to win late game you need to get into an incredible advantage midgame?

Pretty much. The point is if polt wasn't that overeager, he had the chance to do it, since Rain plays too safe to get advantadges midgame.
VeNoM HaZ Skill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
February 16 2014 18:25 GMT
#3080
On February 17 2014 03:24 SoFrOsTy wrote:
Imagine if Polt made ghots and/or dodged storms. I really think he could have had that game. Just during engagments he eats storms pretty hard.

He had ghosts in the initial engagement, which he lost. After that, he couldn't afford to produce them or he would die to collo/tempest. With so few barracks, a round of no marauders = death.
#1 MMA fan! I like you too Taeja. Still patiently waiting for the Crown Prince to become the King.
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