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On January 22 2014 18:42 pure.Wasted wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 18:38 Khaldor wrote:On January 22 2014 18:27 pure.Wasted wrote:
"The kiting by Innovation is amazing!"
"But the Time Warp hits everything."
Hahaha. I don't get what's funny about it tbh. Kiting =/= splitting. His kiting was good but the warp prism got a great time ward off because his bio was clumped up There is no such thing as a great time warp. It's retardedly easy to cast and BLOCKS MICRO. Remember Fungal Growth? Remember how Blizz reworked it so that it wouldn't stop micro? Then they just go and add more shit like that into the game. Not only does it take no skill, it prevents other people from using skill. Oook.
"great time warp" doesnt necessarily mean it was great as in "great display of skill to land it", but rather the fact that the time warp hit everyting was great for the protoss.
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All these delicious tears!
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On January 22 2014 18:43 Arceus wrote:
6 esport buck on herO in-base proxying gate
6 more on Stork dying to that (for the 25th times)
I will call your bet!
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On January 22 2014 18:41 Fjodorov wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 18:39 ETisME wrote:On January 22 2014 18:35 Mozdk wrote:On January 22 2014 18:33 ETisME wrote:On January 22 2014 18:30 Mozdk wrote:On January 22 2014 18:29 ETisME wrote:On January 22 2014 18:24 Mozdk wrote:On January 22 2014 18:22 Big J wrote:On January 22 2014 18:20 Mozdk wrote:On January 22 2014 18:19 Big J wrote:
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What hinders you from taking expansions as fast as Zerg if Zerg must not attack them...
I mean, 14Nexus, 15Nexus, 16Nexus... You'll be maxed with whatever you want/need at 15mins. Not about maxing fastest. It's about zerg hitting 80 drones way before. Meaning more money, meaning better army, remax and so on. which isn't true. You can do the math. Hell, with the existence of mules (and my extreme experiements with 4-5CC builds in WoL) it's rather so that Zerg is economically behind Terran in such a scenario. Ok I guess you just broke the meta where TERRAN AND PROTOSS have to preasure zerg to keep them from making drones. Are you really that stupid? wow don't go to personal insult if you lose an argument. You said zerg would win every single game if it was a 15mins no attack game and you can't even provide any counter argument except going back to the actual starcraft game where there is attack before 15mins. :S My argument is completely valid. You're not making sense. "meta where TERRAN AND PROTOSS have to preasure zerg to keep them from making drones." That is not "If starcraft was 15 min no attack " argument completely invalid, sorry So two things that are not exactly the same are not comparable? Are you listening to yourself? I think you are either confused or just lost in your own argument, sorry. Zerg does not win every game if it is a 15mins no attack game. T and P can produce workers faster than Z does if it is a 15 mins no attack game.And if it is a normal game, then P and T have to pressure Z because they can't expand as safely like Z can. So you can't use that argument to say he broke the meta because the meta is not a 15 mins no attack game. I hope you get it, it's actually quite simple, just read everything from the start again Thats impossible.
well I should have wrote optimal worker amount.
I am pretty sure Toss can get to ~80 faster than zerg if they don't need to make gateways and only focus on nexus and chrono.
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On January 22 2014 18:39 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 18:35 Mozdk wrote:On January 22 2014 18:33 ETisME wrote:On January 22 2014 18:30 Mozdk wrote:On January 22 2014 18:29 ETisME wrote:On January 22 2014 18:24 Mozdk wrote:On January 22 2014 18:22 Big J wrote:On January 22 2014 18:20 Mozdk wrote:On January 22 2014 18:19 Big J wrote:On January 22 2014 18:16 Mozdk wrote:
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Ok they wouldn't win a PvT... What hinders you from taking expansions as fast as Zerg if Zerg must not attack them... I mean, 14Nexus, 15Nexus, 16Nexus... You'll be maxed with whatever you want/need at 15mins. Not about maxing fastest. It's about zerg hitting 80 drones way before. Meaning more money, meaning better army, remax and so on. which isn't true. You can do the math. Hell, with the existence of mules (and my extreme experiements with 4-5CC builds in WoL) it's rather so that Zerg is economically behind Terran in such a scenario. Ok I guess you just broke the meta where TERRAN AND PROTOSS have to preasure zerg to keep them from making drones. Are you really that stupid? wow don't go to personal insult if you lose an argument. You said zerg would win every single game if it was a 15mins no attack game and you can't even provide any counter argument except going back to the actual starcraft game where there is attack before 15mins. :S My argument is completely valid. You're not making sense. "meta where TERRAN AND PROTOSS have to preasure zerg to keep them from making drones." That is not "If starcraft was 15 min no attack " argument completely invalid, sorry So two things that are not exactly the same are not comparable? Are you listening to yourself? T and P can produce workers faster than Z does if it is a 15 mins no attack game.
Lol, not even close. Zerg will always have most workers, followed by protoss and then terran. In a 15 min no attack game zerg can probably get around 70 drones by 10min mark, maybe even more, not sure. Terran can get around 50 SCVs and protos is somewhere in between.
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CMON STORK!!!!!!!!!!!
FUCKING DO IT MAN
I LOVE YOU SO MUCH
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Because theres a group with 3 P and 3 Z where one of each is guarenteed to advance. Terran doesnt
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On January 22 2014 18:44 Fjodorov wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 18:42 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 22 2014 18:38 Khaldor wrote:On January 22 2014 18:27 pure.Wasted wrote:
"The kiting by Innovation is amazing!"
"But the Time Warp hits everything."
Hahaha. I don't get what's funny about it tbh. Kiting =/= splitting. His kiting was good but the warp prism got a great time ward off because his bio was clumped up There is no such thing as a great time warp. It's retardedly easy to cast and BLOCKS MICRO. Remember Fungal Growth? Remember how Blizz reworked it so that it wouldn't stop micro? Then they just go and add more shit like that into the game. Not only does it take no skill, it prevents other people from using skill. Oook. "great time warp" doesnt necessarily mean it was great as in "great display of skill to land it", but rather the fact that the time warp hit everyting was great for the protoss.
I wasn't laughing at Wolf/Khaldor.
I was laughing at how stupid Time Warp is and the way it shut down Inno's attempts to use skill to quality into Code S.
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On January 22 2014 18:44 Heartland wrote:
All these delicious tears!
You must really like shitty-ass matches.
Also agree with above poster. Time warp is one of the worst spells to ever be implemented. At the VERY least, it could have friendly fire.
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On January 22 2014 18:39 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 18:35 Mozdk wrote:On January 22 2014 18:33 ETisME wrote:On January 22 2014 18:30 Mozdk wrote:On January 22 2014 18:29 ETisME wrote:On January 22 2014 18:24 Mozdk wrote:On January 22 2014 18:22 Big J wrote:On January 22 2014 18:20 Mozdk wrote:On January 22 2014 18:19 Big J wrote:On January 22 2014 18:16 Mozdk wrote:
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Ok they wouldn't win a PvT... What hinders you from taking expansions as fast as Zerg if Zerg must not attack them... I mean, 14Nexus, 15Nexus, 16Nexus... You'll be maxed with whatever you want/need at 15mins. Not about maxing fastest. It's about zerg hitting 80 drones way before. Meaning more money, meaning better army, remax and so on. which isn't true. You can do the math. Hell, with the existence of mules (and my extreme experiements with 4-5CC builds in WoL) it's rather so that Zerg is economically behind Terran in such a scenario. Ok I guess you just broke the meta where TERRAN AND PROTOSS have to preasure zerg to keep them from making drones. Are you really that stupid? wow don't go to personal insult if you lose an argument. You said zerg would win every single game if it was a 15mins no attack game and you can't even provide any counter argument except going back to the actual starcraft game where there is attack before 15mins. :S My argument is completely valid. You're not making sense. "meta where TERRAN AND PROTOSS have to preasure zerg to keep them from making drones." That is not "If starcraft was 15 min no attack " argument completely invalid, sorry So two things that are not exactly the same are not comparable? Are you listening to yourself? I think you are either confused or just lost in your own argument, sorry. Zerg does not win every game if it is a 15mins no attack game. T and P can produce workers faster than Z does if it is a 15 mins no attack game. And if it is a normal game, then P and T have to pressure Z because they can't expand as safely like Z can. So you can't use that argument to say he broke the meta because the meta is not a 15 mins no attack game. I hope you get it, it's actually quite simple, just read everything from the start again
I wouldn't go that far. But P/T can actually keep up with workers until 40-50 currently in a normal game in which Zerg pretty much only builds drones. Zerg drone production after that skyrockets, however at least Terran could somewhat equalize with extra OCs. And for either, P/T their own situation would be so much better as well if they had 4 Headquarters from the get go too, while for Zerg it wouldn't be that much better than the not so uncommon 3hatch before pool scenarios.
It would be just a different metagame.
Could be that at 15:00 30+mutalisks go on a rampage, could also be that at 15:00 the Protoss army that has been constructed with warpins in a Zerg base while continously forcefielding out zerg units just starts to kill everything, or the 30tanks do their last leapfrog to start killing everything.
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On January 22 2014 18:46 Blargh wrote:You must really like shitty-ass matches.
I LOVE it when Protoss wins vs Terran fan favourites.
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On January 22 2014 18:46 pure.Wasted wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 18:44 Fjodorov wrote:On January 22 2014 18:42 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 22 2014 18:38 Khaldor wrote:On January 22 2014 18:27 pure.Wasted wrote:
"The kiting by Innovation is amazing!"
"But the Time Warp hits everything."
Hahaha. I don't get what's funny about it tbh. Kiting =/= splitting. His kiting was good but the warp prism got a great time ward off because his bio was clumped up There is no such thing as a great time warp. It's retardedly easy to cast and BLOCKS MICRO. Remember Fungal Growth? Remember how Blizz reworked it so that it wouldn't stop micro? Then they just go and add more shit like that into the game. Not only does it take no skill, it prevents other people from using skill. Oook. "great time warp" doesnt necessarily mean it was great as in "great display of skill to land it", but rather the fact that the time warp hit everyting was great for the protoss. I wasn't laughing at Wolf/Khaldor. I was laughing at how stupid Time Warp is and the way it shut down Inno's attempts to use skill to quality into Code S.
Aye, I feel you on that, believe me 
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No proxies on DeadProtoss Point, I am highly surprised
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Pandemona
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WOOOOOOOOW
TWITCH LAGGING FFS
Why do we support this stupid streaming service, we should just pressure stupid YouTube to get a decent layout for their streamers so we can all use that ;_;
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On January 22 2014 18:36 Dodgin wrote:
Mvp looked better vs Protoss than Innovation, KESPAAAAAAA is too good after all.
heroic antitrolling right there.
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On January 22 2014 18:46 Blargh wrote:You must really like shitty-ass matches.
I bet he was one of those "the game is more balanced than it has ever been".
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If innovation wont make it to code S it would atleast be nice to see Stork have some success
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