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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 30 2013 17:42 GMT
#1581
On December 01 2013 02:41 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 02:41 Darkhoarse wrote:
On December 01 2013 02:40 TylerThaCreator wrote:
On December 01 2013 02:38 Undead1993 wrote:
On December 01 2013 02:37 Darkhoarse wrote:
Is he purposely leaving a gap on the ramp with his FF? If not, he whiffed 3 in a row.

he is certainly nervous no real sense to leave this gap there


He's funnelling the army/scv's of MMA for easier pickoff, if he completely ffs the ramp then it's possible that MMA just does some damage from outside Patience's vision

Yeah but he overlapped them a lot which leads me to believe he was trying to fix it.

Or just mistimed in overexcitement.

In bed.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
November 30 2013 17:43 GMT
#1582
MMA played too smart for his own good as far as his army positioning was concerned. His position was good, but after Patience "scouted" where MMA's army was (by losing a roaming stalker) MMA needed to move somewhere else, preferably into a more defensive posture. Patience simply went into the main by sneaking around where he presumed MMA's army still was.
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
November 30 2013 17:43 GMT
#1583
Such a silly format by the way that the winners final is already played. Would have made much more sense to have that now I feel. Taeja just get's to wait around all day to see who he's up against while his opponent may have had to play 4 matches in a row or in case of Life just had to showcase a couple ZvT strats already.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10137 Posts
November 30 2013 17:43 GMT
#1584
On December 01 2013 02:42 painkilla wrote:
Laughing so hard at blizzard now. "Terrans are stronger early mid game .." sure.

We only need to get some more nerfs to stim and bunkers to balance it.
xongnox
Profile Joined November 2011
540 Posts
November 30 2013 17:43 GMT
#1585
free loose 4 stalkers, go for a scouted all-in, proceeds to win... seems legit !

MMA's defense was about denying the pylon and using high-ground, he failed to kill a pylon behind so he insta-loose. But WTF he was doing on his choke. Haha if only terran had photon-orbital, hit would be easy to win vs those patchtoss all-ins... !
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
November 30 2013 17:43 GMT
#1586
On December 01 2013 02:42 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 02:41 lolfail9001 wrote:
On December 01 2013 02:41 Darkhoarse wrote:
On December 01 2013 02:40 TylerThaCreator wrote:
On December 01 2013 02:38 Undead1993 wrote:
On December 01 2013 02:37 Darkhoarse wrote:
Is he purposely leaving a gap on the ramp with his FF? If not, he whiffed 3 in a row.

he is certainly nervous no real sense to leave this gap there


He's funnelling the army/scv's of MMA for easier pickoff, if he completely ffs the ramp then it's possible that MMA just does some damage from outside Patience's vision

Yeah but he overlapped them a lot which leads me to believe he was trying to fix it.

Or just mistimed in overexcitement.

In bed.

Nevermind.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 30 2013 17:43 GMT
#1587
On December 01 2013 02:43 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 02:42 painkilla wrote:
Laughing so hard at blizzard now. "Terrans are stronger early mid game .." sure.

We only need to get some more nerfs to stim and bunkers to balance it.


MSC should be able to shoot Terran from across the map IMO.
Moderator
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
November 30 2013 17:43 GMT
#1588
Gerrard is knocking his head on his desk right now
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NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
November 30 2013 17:44 GMT
#1589
On December 01 2013 02:43 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 02:42 painkilla wrote:
Laughing so hard at blizzard now. "Terrans are stronger early mid game .." sure.

We only need to get some more nerfs to stim and bunkers to balance it.

While we're at it we should buff the Oracle. Give it a AoE attack
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 30 2013 17:44 GMT
#1590
On December 01 2013 02:42 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 02:41 Jer99 wrote:
2 terrans
1 zerg
1 protoss

very nice ro4

?? Terran has twice the representation, bring the nerf hammer already.

"So cutting the range on mines by ~50% has had some affect, but we'd like to try the same % nerf on range for the marine. Thoughts?" - David Kim 2013
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
November 30 2013 17:44 GMT
#1591
On December 01 2013 02:43 Markwerf wrote:
Such a silly format by the way that the winners final is already played. Would have made much more sense to have that now I feel. Taeja just get's to wait around all day to see who he's up against while his opponent may have had to play 4 matches in a row or in case of Life just had to showcase a couple ZvT strats already.


advantage to Taeja's opponent because he is already all warmed up.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
November 30 2013 17:44 GMT
#1592
On December 01 2013 02:41 goody153 wrote:
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On December 01 2013 02:41 Spinoza wrote:
Smix (?) the interpreter/interviewer seems to have an extraordinary short term memory. She is very good at this.

she is pretty though so it doesnt matter

??? he said she has a good memory. not sure where your uncalled-for comment is coming from.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 30 2013 17:44 GMT
#1593
On December 01 2013 02:43 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 02:42 Darkhoarse wrote:
On December 01 2013 02:41 lolfail9001 wrote:
On December 01 2013 02:41 Darkhoarse wrote:
On December 01 2013 02:40 TylerThaCreator wrote:
On December 01 2013 02:38 Undead1993 wrote:
On December 01 2013 02:37 Darkhoarse wrote:
Is he purposely leaving a gap on the ramp with his FF? If not, he whiffed 3 in a row.

he is certainly nervous no real sense to leave this gap there


He's funnelling the army/scv's of MMA for easier pickoff, if he completely ffs the ramp then it's possible that MMA just does some damage from outside Patience's vision

Yeah but he overlapped them a lot which leads me to believe he was trying to fix it.

Or just mistimed in overexcitement.

In bed.

Nevermind.

Maturity overwhelming.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
November 30 2013 17:44 GMT
#1594
On December 01 2013 02:43 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 02:42 painkilla wrote:
Laughing so hard at blizzard now. "Terrans are stronger early mid game .." sure.

We only need to get some more nerfs to stim and bunkers to balance it.

Maybe barracks building time as well.
ValM
Profile Joined May 2010
India408 Posts
November 30 2013 17:44 GMT
#1595
On December 01 2013 02:40 Stress wrote:
Not to take anything away from Patience but MMA played both games poorly....


This
On December 01 2013 02:40 Keeemy wrote:
I'm still baffled because of that game. Was there a reason for MMA to not make any bunkers AND to be outside of his base like that?


Could someone please answer?
The Terran Prince is now the king. Maru | MMA | Mvp forever
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18572 Posts
November 30 2013 17:44 GMT
#1596
On December 01 2013 02:43 Markwerf wrote:
Such a silly format by the way that the winners final is already played. Would have made much more sense to have that now I feel. Taeja just get's to wait around all day to see who he's up against while his opponent may have had to play 4 matches in a row or in case of Life just had to showcase a couple ZvT strats already.


But Taeja can't lose in return...

The others all had a second chance if Taeja loses once - its over.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
November 30 2013 17:44 GMT
#1597
On December 01 2013 02:43 xongnox wrote:
free loose 4 stalkers, go for a scouted all-in, proceeds to win... seems legit !

MMA's defense was about denying the pylon and using high-ground, he failed to kill a pylon behind so he insta-loose. But WTF he was doing on his choke. Haha if only terran had photon-orbital, hit would be easy to win vs those patchtoss all-ins... !

Difference between all-in and cheese is that scouted all-in needs to be defended still. MMA failed defense into his own loss.
In fact, photon overcharge in PvP does not save you from 4 gate if it does hit you and you fail to defend it :D
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
November 30 2013 17:44 GMT
#1598
Please dont balance whine.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
November 30 2013 17:45 GMT
#1599
On December 01 2013 02:43 xongnox wrote:
free loose 4 stalkers, go for a scouted all-in, proceeds to win... seems legit !

MMA's defense was about denying the pylon and using high-ground, he failed to kill a pylon behind so he insta-loose. But WTF he was doing on his choke. Haha if only terran had photon-orbital, hit would be easy to win vs those patchtoss all-ins... !

WoL: Queens range 5.
HotS: Nexus range 13.
LotV: PF Orbital.

The cycle of macro mechanics making you virtually impervious to pre-10 minuts agression will finally be complete!
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10102 Posts
November 30 2013 17:45 GMT
#1600
On December 01 2013 02:43 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 02:43 Godwrath wrote:
On December 01 2013 02:42 painkilla wrote:
Laughing so hard at blizzard now. "Terrans are stronger early mid game .." sure.

We only need to get some more nerfs to stim and bunkers to balance it.


MSC should be able to shoot Terran from across the map IMO.

DT should have stim
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
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