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mines look like it deals more damage to friendlies than the zerg .. buy maybe its just this time due to meta
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heart overextended with half his army supply on creep. He was at 175 supply so he should have maxed out and made a big push instead. Snowballing effect leaves almost no room for comebacks for terran. Back in WoL you would still have 2 tank at home but 3-4 WM wont do shit.
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On November 22 2013 20:40 Swiipii wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 20:39 Squat wrote:On November 22 2013 20:36 Niko_Thien wrote:
Are the WMs doing more friendly fire since the new patch or am I just a whiny terran? :D Scarlett actually said that she didn't like the change since she felt she could not kill bio with friendly fire as well any more. Make of that what you will. Actually mines seem better in big supply fights because it's really hard to detonate them now (and with the bio in support it's nearly impossible). In low supply fights however ...
Did you watch todays games with your eyes shut? 
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On November 22 2013 20:40 Swiipii wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 20:39 Squat wrote:On November 22 2013 20:36 Niko_Thien wrote:
Are the WMs doing more friendly fire since the new patch or am I just a whiny terran? :D Scarlett actually said that she didn't like the change since she felt she could not kill bio with friendly fire as well any more. Make of that what you will. Actually mines seem better in big supply fights because it's really hard to detonate them now (and with the bio in support it's nearly impossible). In low supply fights however ...
Yes they are very good in big supply fights? What are you saying man. Ridiculous. We saw how "GOOD" they are in INnoVations bigger fights, they scratched a few units-_-
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On November 22 2013 20:40 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 20:38 NarutO wrote:On November 22 2013 20:37 Dodgin wrote:On November 22 2013 20:36 Weavel wrote:
Zergs seems a lot stronger when terrans go biomine nowdays. Needs more tanks just ask BOMBER I am sure those 30 mutalisks cross position whirlwind would love to see tanks, easy targets BOMBER CARES NOT FOR YOUR MUTALISKS
Nor does he care for GSTL 
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On November 22 2013 20:39 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 20:36 Niko_Thien wrote:
Are the WMs doing more friendly fire since the new patch or am I just a whiny terran? :D Scarlett actually said that she didn't like the change since she felt she could not kill bio with friendly fire as well any more. Make of that what you will.
Except Mines are supposed to deal more damage to Zerg than to Terran anyway. Mines doing less friendly fire is fairly insignificant since the Zerg army can comfortably slaughter Terran's troops on its own.
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On November 22 2013 20:41 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 20:40 Swiipii wrote:On November 22 2013 20:39 Squat wrote:On November 22 2013 20:36 Niko_Thien wrote:
Are the WMs doing more friendly fire since the new patch or am I just a whiny terran? :D Scarlett actually said that she didn't like the change since she felt she could not kill bio with friendly fire as well any more. Make of that what you will. Actually mines seem better in big supply fights because it's really hard to detonate them now (and with the bio in support it's nearly impossible). In low supply fights however ... Yes they are very good in big supply fights? What are you saying man. Ridiculous. We saw how "GOOD" they are in INnoVations bigger fights, they scratched a few units-_-
Well if you watched HSC Jjajkji and Taeja had no problems to win with it.
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On November 22 2013 20:40 Swiipii wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 20:39 Squat wrote:On November 22 2013 20:36 Niko_Thien wrote:
Are the WMs doing more friendly fire since the new patch or am I just a whiny terran? :D Scarlett actually said that she didn't like the change since she felt she could not kill bio with friendly fire as well any more. Make of that what you will. Actually mines seem better in big supply fights because it's really hard to detonate them now (and with the bio in support it's nearly impossible). In low supply fights however ...
how has detonating them become harder?
They are just worse. They are still costefficient against MLB, but biomine all game long may not stand up to Zerg anymore and transitions or other styles don't look viable.
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On November 22 2013 20:42 Swiipii wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 20:41 NarutO wrote:On November 22 2013 20:40 Swiipii wrote:On November 22 2013 20:39 Squat wrote:On November 22 2013 20:36 Niko_Thien wrote:
Are the WMs doing more friendly fire since the new patch or am I just a whiny terran? :D Scarlett actually said that she didn't like the change since she felt she could not kill bio with friendly fire as well any more. Make of that what you will. Actually mines seem better in big supply fights because it's really hard to detonate them now (and with the bio in support it's nearly impossible). In low supply fights however ... Yes they are very good in big supply fights? What are you saying man. Ridiculous. We saw how "GOOD" they are in INnoVations bigger fights, they scratched a few units-_- Well if you watched HSC Jjajkji and Taeja had no problems to win with it.
Well jjakji is about three times good as the terrans that played today. Very hard to include him when talking balance.
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On November 22 2013 20:42 Swiipii wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 20:41 NarutO wrote:On November 22 2013 20:40 Swiipii wrote:On November 22 2013 20:39 Squat wrote:On November 22 2013 20:36 Niko_Thien wrote:
Are the WMs doing more friendly fire since the new patch or am I just a whiny terran? :D Scarlett actually said that she didn't like the change since she felt she could not kill bio with friendly fire as well any more. Make of that what you will. Actually mines seem better in big supply fights because it's really hard to detonate them now (and with the bio in support it's nearly impossible). In low supply fights however ... Yes they are very good in big supply fights? What are you saying man. Ridiculous. We saw how "GOOD" they are in INnoVations bigger fights, they scratched a few units-_- Well if you watched HSC Jjajkji and Taeja had no problems to win with it.
Might have something to do with the fact they were the best players there.
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On November 22 2013 20:41 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 20:40 Swiipii wrote:On November 22 2013 20:39 Squat wrote:On November 22 2013 20:36 Niko_Thien wrote:
Are the WMs doing more friendly fire since the new patch or am I just a whiny terran? :D Scarlett actually said that she didn't like the change since she felt she could not kill bio with friendly fire as well any more. Make of that what you will. Actually mines seem better in big supply fights because it's really hard to detonate them now (and with the bio in support it's nearly impossible). In low supply fights however ... Yes they are very good in big supply fights? What are you saying man. Ridiculous. We saw how "GOOD" they are in INnoVations bigger fights, they scratched a few units-_-
NarutO, no disrespect, I really value your opinion a lot, but are you really surprised at this? Both Zerg and Terran players complained a lot about the mine being stupid in the beta. It's either too strong or too weak. Simply a badly designed unit.
But this is not the topic for a LR thread. Why not open a thread about it? I'm sure you have a lot to say about this and people are interested in your opinion(Being honest here, no sarcasm included.)
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On November 22 2013 20:41 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 20:40 Dodgin wrote:On November 22 2013 20:38 NarutO wrote:On November 22 2013 20:37 Dodgin wrote:On November 22 2013 20:36 Weavel wrote:
Zergs seems a lot stronger when terrans go biomine nowdays. Needs more tanks just ask BOMBER I am sure those 30 mutalisks cross position whirlwind would love to see tanks, easy targets BOMBER CARES NOT FOR YOUR MUTALISKS Nor does he care for GSTL
Smart guy
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On November 22 2013 20:42 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 20:42 Swiipii wrote:On November 22 2013 20:41 NarutO wrote:On November 22 2013 20:40 Swiipii wrote:On November 22 2013 20:39 Squat wrote:On November 22 2013 20:36 Niko_Thien wrote:
Are the WMs doing more friendly fire since the new patch or am I just a whiny terran? :D Scarlett actually said that she didn't like the change since she felt she could not kill bio with friendly fire as well any more. Make of that what you will. Actually mines seem better in big supply fights because it's really hard to detonate them now (and with the bio in support it's nearly impossible). In low supply fights however ... Yes they are very good in big supply fights? What are you saying man. Ridiculous. We saw how "GOOD" they are in INnoVations bigger fights, they scratched a few units-_- Well if you watched HSC Jjajkji and Taeja had no problems to win with it. Well jjakji is about three times good as the terrans that played today. Very hard to include him when talking balance.
Jjakji better than Innovation? -_- And Heart is no sloutch either
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We need to make FBH to do some ceremonies for Azubu :0
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On November 22 2013 20:42 Swiipii wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 20:41 NarutO wrote:On November 22 2013 20:40 Swiipii wrote:On November 22 2013 20:39 Squat wrote:On November 22 2013 20:36 Niko_Thien wrote:
Are the WMs doing more friendly fire since the new patch or am I just a whiny terran? :D Scarlett actually said that she didn't like the change since she felt she could not kill bio with friendly fire as well any more. Make of that what you will. Actually mines seem better in big supply fights because it's really hard to detonate them now (and with the bio in support it's nearly impossible). In low supply fights however ... Yes they are very good in big supply fights? What are you saying man. Ridiculous. We saw how "GOOD" they are in INnoVations bigger fights, they scratched a few units-_- Well if you watched HSC Jjajkji and Taeja had no problems to win with it.
Sure you name two examples in which one is actually outmatching the competition (hyun) by a lot and the other one also a former code S champion. Should I continue to name examples of Terran players not succeeding with mines? Most Terrans did actually struggle in recent TvZ before the patch. Now mines are worse doesn't make the situation better, but keep being delusional.
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Loving the reverse WM whine, looking forward to the games tomorrow.
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On November 22 2013 20:43 KeksX wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 20:41 NarutO wrote:On November 22 2013 20:40 Swiipii wrote:On November 22 2013 20:39 Squat wrote:On November 22 2013 20:36 Niko_Thien wrote:
Are the WMs doing more friendly fire since the new patch or am I just a whiny terran? :D Scarlett actually said that she didn't like the change since she felt she could not kill bio with friendly fire as well any more. Make of that what you will. Actually mines seem better in big supply fights because it's really hard to detonate them now (and with the bio in support it's nearly impossible). In low supply fights however ... Yes they are very good in big supply fights? What are you saying man. Ridiculous. We saw how "GOOD" they are in INnoVations bigger fights, they scratched a few units-_- NarutO, no disrespect, I really value your opinion a lot, but are you really surprised at this? Both Zerg and Terran players complained a lot about the mine being stupid in the beta. It's either too strong or too weak. Simply a badly designed unit. But this is not the topic for a LR thread. Why not open a thread about it? I'm sure you have a lot to say about this and people are interested in your opinion(Being honest here, no sarcasm included.)
Because people act like INnoVation suddenly playes badly which is not the case. He still playes brilliantly and shows amazing control, but the reward he gets is diminishing as the units he gets are simply not going to cut it.
Its like saying Jacky Chan is fighting poorly when he is up against the russian tank forces-_-
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On November 22 2013 20:43 Swiipii wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 20:42 DJHelium wrote:On November 22 2013 20:42 Swiipii wrote:On November 22 2013 20:41 NarutO wrote:On November 22 2013 20:40 Swiipii wrote:On November 22 2013 20:39 Squat wrote:On November 22 2013 20:36 Niko_Thien wrote:
Are the WMs doing more friendly fire since the new patch or am I just a whiny terran? :D Scarlett actually said that she didn't like the change since she felt she could not kill bio with friendly fire as well any more. Make of that what you will. Actually mines seem better in big supply fights because it's really hard to detonate them now (and with the bio in support it's nearly impossible). In low supply fights however ... Yes they are very good in big supply fights? What are you saying man. Ridiculous. We saw how "GOOD" they are in INnoVations bigger fights, they scratched a few units-_- Well if you watched HSC Jjajkji and Taeja had no problems to win with it. Well jjakji is about three times good as the terrans that played today. Very hard to include him when talking balance. Jjakji better than Innovation? -_- And Heart is no sloutch either
By far, jjakji shows sick plays like no other player.
And yeah, Heart is solid!
+ Show Spoiler +I'm just fanboying, disregard my opinions!!
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so dissapointed GG azubu
tomorrow time for rvenge 
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On November 22 2013 20:42 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 20:40 Swiipii wrote:On November 22 2013 20:39 Squat wrote:On November 22 2013 20:36 Niko_Thien wrote:
Are the WMs doing more friendly fire since the new patch or am I just a whiny terran? :D Scarlett actually said that she didn't like the change since she felt she could not kill bio with friendly fire as well any more. Make of that what you will. Actually mines seem better in big supply fights because it's really hard to detonate them now (and with the bio in support it's nearly impossible). In low supply fights however ... how has detonating them become harder? They are just worse. They are still costefficient against MLB, but biomine all game long may not stand up to Zerg anymore and transitions or other styles don't look viable.
They were equal in costs against muta ling bane against a good player before the patch and now they get flat out overrun. If you don't see that yourself, I cannot help you realize it-_-
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