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Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands656 Posts
November 10 2013 03:04 GMT
#11121
On November 10 2013 12:02 liberate71 wrote:
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On November 10 2013 12:01 Neemi wrote:
So in over 3 years of starcraft 2, did anyone ever do anything interesting with a corrupter?


Someone used one to kill an Immortal yesterday


It's still the unit with the least immortal kills in the entire game probably. Even lower than medivacs.
Cute
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
November 10 2013 03:04 GMT
#11122
On November 10 2013 12:03 liberate71 wrote:
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On November 10 2013 12:02 jakethesnake wrote:
On November 10 2013 12:01 liberate71 wrote:
On November 10 2013 12:00 jakethesnake wrote:
Such a great day of matches. Too bad the barcraft I was at only had three people. lol.

Sorry to disappoint my LR fanclub with my absence.


Do you know DiLiGu?


No, was he at a tiny barcraft?


He was here earlier talking about how he had a very tiny barcraft haha :o

I thought he mentioned that his barcraft was good, but everyone was disappointed because a faceless man won? (Valar Morghulis)
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
November 10 2013 03:05 GMT
#11123
"Jaedong ‏@EGJaedong 8m
Do you know my Broodwar id? My id was "Neverdie Jaedong" It means Never ever die Jaedong!!!Don't forget. The Tyrant will be back soon!"
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
November 10 2013 03:05 GMT
#11124
On November 10 2013 12:04 chatuka wrote:
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On November 10 2013 11:57 StarStruck wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:56 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:48 Faruko wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:44 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:40 bourne117 wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:37 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:33 liberate71 wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:27 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:26 Uncultured wrote:
I will never forget S.O.S's leaping fist-pump after stealing the victory and leaving his booth. One of the best celebratory moments I've seen.

i would have been more humble after mentally destroying JD that way by psyching him out. It wasnt a classy way or a hard drawn out way of winning like 5 set tennis matches or overtime games.


hahahha what?

He won $100,000 and the biggest SC2 tournament ever, and he isnt allowed to cheer because he mind-gamed a fan favourite?

DiLiGu just said almost the exact opposite, hes faceless and has no personality.

You and him should discuss this at his next barcraft.

If you jump up and cheer after someone gets injured in a match and beat the team or player in a game. you should not jump up and down. There are appropriate moments to cheer like a maniac, IF SoS beat JD in a 7 game intense fight, I would have understood it. This series felt like a let-down since game one. I would not really cheer like a maniac after wiinning in 5 games to cheezing and psycing out the opponent. that's just how i feel

What the fuck is your problem dude. He just won 100k dollars and the biggest tournament of the year. It wasn't like cheering for someone being injured at all. It was like cheering for winning the superbowl. It doesn't matter how you did it. You won and deserve to celebrate.

if you win after scoring on a hail mary, you are going to react differently after winning 70-0. It a compeltely different feeling and emotional reaction. That is the point i am making. this series was one-sided and very disappointing from game one. it was like a football game like 50-7 or something like that. I would not cheer crazily after winning that easily.

Have you ever win something ? Serious question

nothing as big as this. but i can put my self in their shoes and see how to handle yourself in a very polite manner. These are the unwritten rules i guess in sports we don't talk about. But i can see why some of you would be like , why are you criticizing a guy who won a big tournament winning 100K. you guys are probably right in questioning my cynicism i guess. I just didn't like the way he handled it.

when the Korean team SKT beat Royal in LoL 3-0, that was a subdued and pretty appropriate. they did not jump up and down, it was a pretty easy victory throughout. had they been going bonkers, i would have though of SKT differently. Yes they won 1 Mil, that was a big deal of course. And that makes the reactions more understandable after winning a big tournament.



How would you react if Jaedong or any other player you liked did the same thing? Come on now.

JD is a veteran and a grizzled warrior I expect him to handle the victory with class. If he won in a game seven in a thrilling manner, that's different. I expect anybody to go crazy then. IF JD did the same thing, i guess with rose colored glasses i might give him a pass. So yes there bias, i agree and you are right in your accusations to a certain degree. but i try to be fair, and i would realize that JD needs to be held to certain standards of behavior in celebration activity if he was destroying opponents and going crazy all the time. it can be intrepreted as showing up the opponent in certain minds.

i will let sOs have it. He deserved it and JD didn't. sOs should be happy, no question about this victory. just the way he won it, i wish he could act like he was there before.


He hasn't been there before, why should he be expected to act like he has?
BW forever || Thall
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
November 10 2013 03:05 GMT
#11125
On November 10 2013 12:01 seoul_kiM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 11:59 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:52 gobbledydook wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:50 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:47 bourne117 wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:44 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:40 bourne117 wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:37 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:33 liberate71 wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:27 chatuka wrote:
[quote]
i would have been more humble after mentally destroying JD that way by psyching him out. It wasnt a classy way or a hard drawn out way of winning like 5 set tennis matches or overtime games.


hahahha what?

He won $100,000 and the biggest SC2 tournament ever, and he isnt allowed to cheer because he mind-gamed a fan favourite?

DiLiGu just said almost the exact opposite, hes faceless and has no personality.

You and him should discuss this at his next barcraft.

If you jump up and cheer after someone gets injured in a match and beat the team or player in a game. you should not jump up and down. There are appropriate moments to cheer like a maniac, IF SoS beat JD in a 7 game intense fight, I would have understood it. This series felt like a let-down since game one. I would not really cheer like a maniac after wiinning in 5 games to cheezing and psycing out the opponent. that's just how i feel

What the fuck is your problem dude. He just won 100k dollars and the biggest tournament of the year. It wasn't like cheering for someone being injured at all. It was like cheering for winning the superbowl. It doesn't matter how you did it. You won and deserve to celebrate.

if you win after scoring on a hail mary, you are going to react differently after winning 70-0. It a compeltely different feeling and emotional reaction. That is the point i am making. this series was one-sided and very disappointing from game one. it was like a football game like 50-7 or something like that. I would not cheer crazily after winning that easily.

It is very different in SC2 though. A football game is a singular game that can be obviously over for a long time. SC2 is a box format and each game is always close because the player ends it as soon as it is over. The game never turns into a 70-0 mess (unless its like fantasy gg timings). A better comparison would be winning the NBA title 4-1 after 4 really close games. And you better believe those players are celebrating. (And they would be celebrating the 70-0 if it meant winning the title like this game meant for sOs.

well said. It's how you celebrate which is what we're discussing. jumping up and down like a little child is not approved, but it is a free world i guess. If sOs won in a game 7 or game 6 in intense matches, i would be very happy for him and expect him to go nuts. but you make good points.

what do you mean jumping up and down is not approved. This man just won the most important tournament of his life.
you're just sore that JD lost and everyone has to sulk like you.

go to my previous posts. winning ugly or hard fought yields different emotions than winning easily and completely demoralizing the opponent. Soccer teams beating clubs 5-0 4-1 will yield different celebrations than winning a close won. that is the point. And yes i am upset JD lost, but that is the game, someone must win someone must lose. I am not sore that sOs won. I just heard he was jumping up and down a bit crazily, i was a bit disappointed in the reaction. that's all.



If I won 100k after playing through two days of the hardest games in my career and now hold the title of the best in the world with the whole Starcraft scene looking up at me, I'd jump up and down crazily. Either your trolling or you're a robot. I'm not sure which one.

no just a JD fan that felt like sOs over-reacted. that's the truth
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
November 10 2013 03:05 GMT
#11126
On November 10 2013 11:56 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 11:48 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:45 Rostam wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:42 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:40 Zorkmid wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:37 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:33 liberate71 wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:27 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:26 Uncultured wrote:
I will never forget S.O.S's leaping fist-pump after stealing the victory and leaving his booth. One of the best celebratory moments I've seen.

i would have been more humble after mentally destroying JD that way by psyching him out. It wasnt a classy way or a hard drawn out way of winning like 5 set tennis matches or overtime games.


hahahha what?

He won $100,000 and the biggest SC2 tournament ever, and he isnt allowed to cheer because he mind-gamed a fan favourite?

DiLiGu just said almost the exact opposite, hes faceless and has no personality.

You and him should discuss this at his next barcraft.

If you jump up and cheer after someone gets injured in a match and beat the team or player in a game. you should not jump up and down. There are appropriate moments to cheer like a maniac, IF SoS beat JD in a 7 game intense fight, I would have understood it. This series felt like a let-down since game one. I would not really cheer like a maniac after wiinning in 5 games to cheezing and psycing out the opponent. that's just how i feel


That's kinda silly. Are you saying that sOs should apologize for outplaying his opponent?

It was more of a psychological meltdown from JD from the mindgaming. there are moments to jump for joy like winning a game 7 or palying intense series or matches. This whole series was let-down since game one in my view. JD was already tanked mentally after not being mentally prepared for a sneaky player that is willing to risk it all. It was too easy at that point once JD was on full tilt.


There are moments to jump for joy like winning the biggest tournament of your life and $100,000.

The guy practiced unknowable thousands of hours, he's poured his entire heart and soul into this game, and when he finally achieves a big success to validate all his efforts you criticize him for being too happy?

yes i did. I don't like people who over-celebrate after drubbing opponents. It's not classy IMO. I am all for cheering, and being happy for winning. like shaking hands, a small fist pump. But going beserk would not be appropriate. I respect SoS as a player and his hard work and sacrifice to win money and fame. But, I think ettiquette is a big factor as well, when you handle losing and winning


I don't really know what to say at this point. He didn't do anything disrespectful to Jaedong. He didn't strip his clothes off and jump into the ocean. He didn't even throw rice at anyone. He was just happy. I find it really hard to believe you don't find a few moments of cheering to be appropriate for winning the biggest tournament of the year.


Yea needed more pelvic thrusts imo
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 10 2013 03:05 GMT
#11127
Someone is happy that he might get the story of Jaedong's first sc2 win, I wouldn't mind .

BossDH ‏@robertohlen 3m
@EGJaedong now WIN @DREAMHACK

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
November 10 2013 03:05 GMT
#11128
On November 10 2013 12:04 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 12:03 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On November 10 2013 12:01 Neemi wrote:
So in over 3 years of starcraft 2, did anyone ever do anything interesting with a corrupter?


Nestea continued to mass them against the void rays of Alicia on Whirlwind

>_______>


Well Jaedong killed an immortal with Corruptors yesterday .


Wait how?
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 03:07:32
November 10 2013 03:06 GMT
#11129
On November 10 2013 12:05 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 12:04 Musicus wrote:
On November 10 2013 12:03 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On November 10 2013 12:01 Neemi wrote:
So in over 3 years of starcraft 2, did anyone ever do anything interesting with a corrupter?


Nestea continued to mass them against the void rays of Alicia on Whirlwind

>_______>


Well Jaedong killed an immortal with Corruptors yesterday .


Wait how?


Dear accidentally lifted it with his pheonixes. It was pretty funny.

EDIT: Brain fart. fixed names.
Community Newsjjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji nshoseo.jpg
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
November 10 2013 03:06 GMT
#11130
On November 10 2013 12:05 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 12:04 Musicus wrote:
On November 10 2013 12:03 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On November 10 2013 12:01 Neemi wrote:
So in over 3 years of starcraft 2, did anyone ever do anything interesting with a corrupter?


Nestea continued to mass them against the void rays of Alicia on Whirlwind

>_______>


Well Jaedong killed an immortal with Corruptors yesterday .


Wait how?

In a warp prism I assumed.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 10 2013 03:06 GMT
#11131
On November 10 2013 12:05 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 12:04 Musicus wrote:
On November 10 2013 12:03 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On November 10 2013 12:01 Neemi wrote:
So in over 3 years of starcraft 2, did anyone ever do anything interesting with a corrupter?


Nestea continued to mass them against the void rays of Alicia on Whirlwind

>_______>


Well Jaedong killed an immortal with Corruptors yesterday .


Wait how?


Dear lifted the immortal with a phoenix to save it from roach/ling.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
November 10 2013 03:06 GMT
#11132
On November 10 2013 12:05 Musicus wrote:
Someone is happy that he might get the story of Jaedong's first sc2 win, I wouldn't mind .
Show nested quote +

BossDH ‏@robertohlen 3m
@EGJaedong now WIN @DREAMHACK


disgusting biased tournament organizer. .lost all respect. like today's disgusting bias tournament commentators. lost all respect for them too. it's a shameful thing to act like that in ESportSTSTS
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
November 10 2013 03:07 GMT
#11133
On November 10 2013 12:04 tshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 12:03 liberate71 wrote:
On November 10 2013 12:02 jakethesnake wrote:
On November 10 2013 12:01 liberate71 wrote:
On November 10 2013 12:00 jakethesnake wrote:
Such a great day of matches. Too bad the barcraft I was at only had three people. lol.

Sorry to disappoint my LR fanclub with my absence.


Do you know DiLiGu?


No, was he at a tiny barcraft?


He was here earlier talking about how he had a very tiny barcraft haha :o

I thought he mentioned that his barcraft was good, but everyone was disappointed because a faceless man won? (Valar Morghulis)


Cousin It is my favourite SC2 personality!
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
November 10 2013 03:07 GMT
#11134
On November 10 2013 12:05 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 12:04 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:57 StarStruck wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:56 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:48 Faruko wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:44 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:40 bourne117 wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:37 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:33 liberate71 wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:27 chatuka wrote:
[quote]
i would have been more humble after mentally destroying JD that way by psyching him out. It wasnt a classy way or a hard drawn out way of winning like 5 set tennis matches or overtime games.


hahahha what?

He won $100,000 and the biggest SC2 tournament ever, and he isnt allowed to cheer because he mind-gamed a fan favourite?

DiLiGu just said almost the exact opposite, hes faceless and has no personality.

You and him should discuss this at his next barcraft.

If you jump up and cheer after someone gets injured in a match and beat the team or player in a game. you should not jump up and down. There are appropriate moments to cheer like a maniac, IF SoS beat JD in a 7 game intense fight, I would have understood it. This series felt like a let-down since game one. I would not really cheer like a maniac after wiinning in 5 games to cheezing and psycing out the opponent. that's just how i feel

What the fuck is your problem dude. He just won 100k dollars and the biggest tournament of the year. It wasn't like cheering for someone being injured at all. It was like cheering for winning the superbowl. It doesn't matter how you did it. You won and deserve to celebrate.

if you win after scoring on a hail mary, you are going to react differently after winning 70-0. It a compeltely different feeling and emotional reaction. That is the point i am making. this series was one-sided and very disappointing from game one. it was like a football game like 50-7 or something like that. I would not cheer crazily after winning that easily.

Have you ever win something ? Serious question

nothing as big as this. but i can put my self in their shoes and see how to handle yourself in a very polite manner. These are the unwritten rules i guess in sports we don't talk about. But i can see why some of you would be like , why are you criticizing a guy who won a big tournament winning 100K. you guys are probably right in questioning my cynicism i guess. I just didn't like the way he handled it.

when the Korean team SKT beat Royal in LoL 3-0, that was a subdued and pretty appropriate. they did not jump up and down, it was a pretty easy victory throughout. had they been going bonkers, i would have though of SKT differently. Yes they won 1 Mil, that was a big deal of course. And that makes the reactions more understandable after winning a big tournament.



How would you react if Jaedong or any other player you liked did the same thing? Come on now.

JD is a veteran and a grizzled warrior I expect him to handle the victory with class. If he won in a game seven in a thrilling manner, that's different. I expect anybody to go crazy then. IF JD did the same thing, i guess with rose colored glasses i might give him a pass. So yes there bias, i agree and you are right in your accusations to a certain degree. but i try to be fair, and i would realize that JD needs to be held to certain standards of behavior in celebration activity if he was destroying opponents and going crazy all the time. it can be intrepreted as showing up the opponent in certain minds.

i will let sOs have it. He deserved it and JD didn't. sOs should be happy, no question about this victory. just the way he won it, i wish he could act like he was there before.


He hasn't been there before, why should he be expected to act like he has?

i'm just being idealistic dude. I wish all the professional could act like professionals, but they're human. certain players due hand victory with dignity and class. I am always attracted by that quality, class and humility. Federer, Sanders, Lin, Tebow, etcetera
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 03:08:25
November 10 2013 03:08 GMT
#11135
DarkLordOlli should be the photon cannon
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lichter can be baneling
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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
November 10 2013 03:08 GMT
#11136
On November 10 2013 12:06 tshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 12:05 Musicus wrote:
Someone is happy that he might get the story of Jaedong's first sc2 win, I wouldn't mind .

BossDH ‏@robertohlen 3m
@EGJaedong now WIN @DREAMHACK


disgusting biased tournament organizer. .lost all respect. like today's disgusting bias tournament commentators. lost all respect for them too. it's a shameful thing to act like that in ESportSTSTS


BossDH was in charge of cutting off Day[9], I just know it.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
November 10 2013 03:08 GMT
#11137
On November 10 2013 12:05 Louuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 11:56 Rostam wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:48 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:45 Rostam wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:42 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:40 Zorkmid wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:37 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:33 liberate71 wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:27 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:26 Uncultured wrote:
I will never forget S.O.S's leaping fist-pump after stealing the victory and leaving his booth. One of the best celebratory moments I've seen.

i would have been more humble after mentally destroying JD that way by psyching him out. It wasnt a classy way or a hard drawn out way of winning like 5 set tennis matches or overtime games.


hahahha what?

He won $100,000 and the biggest SC2 tournament ever, and he isnt allowed to cheer because he mind-gamed a fan favourite?

DiLiGu just said almost the exact opposite, hes faceless and has no personality.

You and him should discuss this at his next barcraft.

If you jump up and cheer after someone gets injured in a match and beat the team or player in a game. you should not jump up and down. There are appropriate moments to cheer like a maniac, IF SoS beat JD in a 7 game intense fight, I would have understood it. This series felt like a let-down since game one. I would not really cheer like a maniac after wiinning in 5 games to cheezing and psycing out the opponent. that's just how i feel


That's kinda silly. Are you saying that sOs should apologize for outplaying his opponent?

It was more of a psychological meltdown from JD from the mindgaming. there are moments to jump for joy like winning a game 7 or palying intense series or matches. This whole series was let-down since game one in my view. JD was already tanked mentally after not being mentally prepared for a sneaky player that is willing to risk it all. It was too easy at that point once JD was on full tilt.


There are moments to jump for joy like winning the biggest tournament of your life and $100,000.

The guy practiced unknowable thousands of hours, he's poured his entire heart and soul into this game, and when he finally achieves a big success to validate all his efforts you criticize him for being too happy?

yes i did. I don't like people who over-celebrate after drubbing opponents. It's not classy IMO. I am all for cheering, and being happy for winning. like shaking hands, a small fist pump. But going beserk would not be appropriate. I respect SoS as a player and his hard work and sacrifice to win money and fame. But, I think ettiquette is a big factor as well, when you handle losing and winning


I don't really know what to say at this point. He didn't do anything disrespectful to Jaedong. He didn't strip his clothes off and jump into the ocean. He didn't even throw rice at anyone. He was just happy. I find it really hard to believe you don't find a few moments of cheering to be appropriate for winning the biggest tournament of the year.


Yea needed more pelvic thrusts imo

LoL
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
November 10 2013 03:08 GMT
#11138
On November 10 2013 12:08 Shellshock wrote:
DarkLordOlli should be the photon cannon
[image loading]

lichter can be baneling

HAHAHA I replied, and my response was in your edit
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 10 2013 03:09 GMT
#11139
On November 10 2013 12:08 Shellshock wrote:
DarkLordOlli should be the photon cannon
[image loading]

lichter can be baneling

pshhh ahahahah
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Ingsoc
Profile Joined September 2012
59 Posts
November 10 2013 03:10 GMT
#11140
On November 10 2013 12:08 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 12:06 tshi wrote:
On November 10 2013 12:05 Musicus wrote:
Someone is happy that he might get the story of Jaedong's first sc2 win, I wouldn't mind .

BossDH ‏@robertohlen 3m
@EGJaedong now WIN @DREAMHACK


disgusting biased tournament organizer. .lost all respect. like today's disgusting bias tournament commentators. lost all respect for them too. it's a shameful thing to act like that in ESportSTSTS


BossDH was in charge of cutting off Day[9], I just know it.

sOs forced him to... somehow
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