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DO NOT! unleash the sheep army. Quoting them is the same as posting them.

Stop the balance whine or bans will be handed out like candy.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 09 2013 17:18 GMT
#601
sos is probably the most overlooked good player of the entire year, bomber is going to beat him though.
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 17:19:42
November 09 2013 17:18 GMT
#602
On November 10 2013 02:10 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 02:04 Keeemy wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:03 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:56 75 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:54 alexiii wrote:
Lol at all the people blindly picking Jaedong over Maru. Do you guys only watch WCS America or something?

no, we also watched jaedong beating dear yesterday.


You have inside info that Maru is playing toss?

People said that Dear is the best player atm. Jaedong beat him.

He can beat anyone, even if on paper Maru is the better player. Just like on paper Dear is/was the better player.


By that logic, Oz is better than almost everyone here cause he also beat Dear.

Lolwat, no. The point is that JD already proved that he can beat anyone (by beating Dear, the best protoss atm), so why would it be a surprise that people pick JD to win over Maru. Different race, sure, but that doesn't matter.
Hello
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
November 09 2013 17:18 GMT
#603
On November 10 2013 02:10 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 02:01 75 wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:00 IntoTheheart wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:57 Strivers wrote:
If Dear just played a solid abc macro game he could have beaten Jaedong for the last 2 games he played. I don't know why he threw it away like that.


Didn't JD kinda toss games 2 and 3 though? :S

like incontrol said.
should have been a 5-0


I strongly disagree with this. Dear is a player who is incredibly good, perhaps the best in the world, on waiting for his opponent to make a mistake and then capitalize on it. Jaedong is a player that, for all his brilliance, can sometimes shoot himself in the foot with the occasional sloppy misstep. To simply discount the moments where Jaedong made mistakes and Dear capitalized as not being reflective of their skills doesn't make any sense.

like incontrol did.
i was joking
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
November 09 2013 17:19 GMT
#604
What in the fuck? I leave you guys for one day and Jaedong beats Dear? Duckdeok Beats Innovation? sOs beats Polt?
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Cainam
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States421 Posts
November 09 2013 17:19 GMT
#605
Bomber vs. Jaedong finals would be amazing
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
November 09 2013 17:19 GMT
#606
Wow the viewer numbers even on the recast are great.

What an incredible success these finals have been for Blizzard. And what a fantastic rebuttal to all that silly "SC2 is dying" negativity. The stream yesterday was at 125k viewers, and that doesn't even count the Blizzard stream numbers we don't have. That stacks up nicely with the most watched tournaments in SC2 history--and perhaps more importantly, the level of play has been incredible as well. Just a fantastic showcase of SC2 at its best.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
November 09 2013 17:20 GMT
#607
I think its almost futile to predict who will win after yesterday. We have almost all the upsets that could possibly happen in the first round and second rounds. Really anyone could win. I just hope its a Terran since its my new race
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 09 2013 17:21 GMT
#608
On November 10 2013 02:18 Keeemy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 02:10 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:04 Keeemy wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:03 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:56 75 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:54 alexiii wrote:
Lol at all the people blindly picking Jaedong over Maru. Do you guys only watch WCS America or something?

no, we also watched jaedong beating dear yesterday.


You have inside info that Maru is playing toss?

People said that Dear is the best player atm. Jaedong beat him.

He can beat anyone, even if on paper Maru is the better player. Just like on paper Dear is/was the better player.


By that logic, Oz is better than almost everyone here cause he also beat Dear.

Lolwat, no. The point is that JD already proved that he can beat anyone (by beating Dear, the best protoss atm), so why would it be a surprise that people pick JD to win over Maru. Different race, sure, but that doesn't matter.


Seems legit to me.
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DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
November 09 2013 17:22 GMT
#609
JAEDONG! JAEDONG! JAEDONG! GIVE THEM THE DONG
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
November 09 2013 17:22 GMT
#610
On November 10 2013 02:20 radscorpion9 wrote:
I think its almost futile to predict who will win after yesterday. We have almost all the upsets that could possibly happen in the first round and second rounds. Really anyone could win. I just hope its a Terran since its my new race

what? there was 1 upset in the ro16. ro8 you could argue for 3, but overall that still isn't THAT many.

that being said, Bomber wins this.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
November 09 2013 17:22 GMT
#611
On November 10 2013 02:19 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Wow the viewer numbers even on the recast are great.

What an incredible success these finals have been for Blizzard. And what a fantastic rebuttal to all that silly "SC2 is dying" negativity. The stream yesterday was at 125k viewers, and that doesn't even count the Blizzard stream numbers we don't have. That stacks up nicely with the most watched tournaments in SC2 history--and perhaps more importantly, the level of play has been incredible as well. Just a fantastic showcase of SC2 at its best.


Well you can't exactly judge the survival of a game off of one event, you have to look at yearly trends to really judge whether its getting better or worse. I mean this is clearly the premiere event for SC2 so its not surprising many would tune in. But will it last as long as BW did? I wonder. Anyway I agree that its not dying at all. It at worst will plateau at a lower level of viewership compared to other games like LoL etc.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 17:23:39
November 09 2013 17:22 GMT
#612
So anyway, in the ro4, we have two major upset players here: Bomber beating Soulkey and Jaedong beating Dear.

sOs vs Polt was a toss-up, could have went anyway.
Maru should've beaten Duckdeok, but Duckdeok is actually much better than anyway gave him credit for, so in retrospect that was also another 50/50 series.

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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
November 09 2013 17:23 GMT
#613
On November 10 2013 02:22 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 02:20 radscorpion9 wrote:
I think its almost futile to predict who will win after yesterday. We have almost all the upsets that could possibly happen in the first round and second rounds. Really anyone could win. I just hope its a Terran since its my new race

what? there was 1 upset in the ro16. ro8 you could argue for 3, but overall that still isn't THAT many.

that being said, Bomber wins this.

so 1 upset in Ro16, real 1 upset, arguable 3 in ro4, going by this logic, we get either sOs JD finals, either sOs Maru ones.
YAyayaya
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 09 2013 17:24 GMT
#614
Duckdeok should've beaten Maru because he's the better player objectively.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
November 09 2013 17:24 GMT
#615
does anyone have a gif of the dear vs jaedong burrow rape?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 09 2013 17:25 GMT
#616
On November 10 2013 02:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Duckdeok should've beaten Maru because he's the better player objectively.


Typical lucky Prime players.
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bhfberserk
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada390 Posts
November 09 2013 17:25 GMT
#617
On paper, Maru seems to be the stronger opponent. Dropping MMM everywhere, bio-mine push. On the other side, Jaedong's ZvT record was not too bright against some of the top Terrans. 4-0 by Polt, 4-0 by Bomber.
Mvp was not in his top form, so not much of a tell there. (Even those games JD shows absolute domination.)

It is really all up to how good JvT is now. If JD really fixed JvT and feels confident in the matchup, he will win it all. Taken into Jaedong's work ethic, determination. He tends to fix his weaknesses. That is why the Tyrant will edge out against Maru. That is why I would bet JD to win it all!

It is also a really important fact that there are not much "solid" games of JD's ZvT. His opponents cannot study his style at all!
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
November 09 2013 17:25 GMT
#618
On November 10 2013 02:22 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 02:20 radscorpion9 wrote:
I think its almost futile to predict who will win after yesterday. We have almost all the upsets that could possibly happen in the first round and second rounds. Really anyone could win. I just hope its a Terran since its my new race

what? there was 1 upset in the ro16. ro8 you could argue for 3, but overall that still isn't THAT many.

that being said, Bomber wins this.


Yeah I suppose. But I guess the upsets were significant enough that the number doesn't matter too much. Who really was predicting Jaedong would beat dear of all people, or bomber beating soulkey, or duckdeok beating innovation? I don't think you can reliably predict anything after seeing what happened yesterday.
DeadSanto123
Profile Joined August 2013
United States90 Posts
November 09 2013 17:26 GMT
#619
On November 10 2013 02:25 bhfberserk wrote:
On paper, Maru seems to be the stronger opponent. Dropping MMM everywhere, bio-mine push. On the other side, Jaedong's ZvT record was not too bright against some of the top Terrans. 4-0 by Polt, 4-0 by Bomber.
Mvp was not in his top form, so not much of a tell there. (Even those games JD shows absolute domination.)

It is really all up to how good JvT is now. If JD really fixed JvT and feels confident in the matchup, he will win it all. Taken into Jaedong's work ethic, determination. He tends to fix his weaknesses. That is why the Tyrant will edge out against Maru. That is why I would bet JD to win it all!

It is also a really important fact that there are not much "solid" games of JD's ZvT. His opponents cannot study his style at all!

YES
Jaedong!!!
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 09 2013 17:26 GMT
#620
On November 10 2013 02:22 radscorpion9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 02:19 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Wow the viewer numbers even on the recast are great.

What an incredible success these finals have been for Blizzard. And what a fantastic rebuttal to all that silly "SC2 is dying" negativity. The stream yesterday was at 125k viewers, and that doesn't even count the Blizzard stream numbers we don't have. That stacks up nicely with the most watched tournaments in SC2 history--and perhaps more importantly, the level of play has been incredible as well. Just a fantastic showcase of SC2 at its best.


Well you can't exactly judge the survival of a game off of one event, you have to look at yearly trends to really judge whether its getting better or worse. I mean this is clearly the premiere event for SC2 so its not surprising many would tune in. But will it last as long as BW did? I wonder. Anyway I agree that its not dying at all. It at worst will plateau at a lower level of viewership compared to other games like LoL etc.


Everyone talks about how big TI3 is for DotA or how huge Worlds was for LoL. If we'll compare, can we at least be consistent in using only "standard" tournaments or only "huge" tournaments?
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