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75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
November 09 2013 16:56 GMT
#561
On November 10 2013 01:54 alexiii wrote:
Lol at all the people blindly picking Jaedong over Maru. Do you guys only watch WCS America or something?

no, we also watched jaedong beating dear yesterday.
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 09 2013 16:56 GMT
#562
On November 10 2013 01:54 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 01:44 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:39 awesomoecalypse wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:36 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Seems that templar opening is the new standard meta to PvT. Quite interesting, really.


Its just so much better against drops, it sets you up for the lategame better than colossi openings, and while its not quite as strong in direct engagements in the midgame as Colossi, the ability to morph archons does mitigate the lack of aoe while you're teching to storms, and if you're super gosu about it you can pull off stuff like storm drops. Its just a much more flexible tech path.


It also lets you get superior upgrades.


The most crucial advantage is the mobility. To be able to use the robotics for other things than colossus also is very nice.


Agreed.
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Strivers
Profile Joined November 2010
United States358 Posts
November 09 2013 16:57 GMT
#563
If Dear just played a solid abc macro game he could have beaten Jaedong for the last 2 games he played. I don't know why he threw it away like that.
These little dudes really like the blue stuff..
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
November 09 2013 16:58 GMT
#564
please jaedong win the damn tournament
can i get my estro logo back pls
norterrible
Profile Joined October 2009
United States618 Posts
November 09 2013 16:59 GMT
#565
I'm rooting for Jaedong with all my heart but his games with dear were way to close for me to have confidence in him.
kekeke
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
November 09 2013 17:00 GMT
#566
On November 10 2013 01:57 Strivers wrote:
If Dear just played a solid abc macro game he could have beaten Jaedong for the last 2 games he played. I don't know why he threw it away like that.


Didn't JD kinda toss games 2 and 3 though? :S
kiss kiss fall in love
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
November 09 2013 17:01 GMT
#567
On November 10 2013 02:00 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 01:57 Strivers wrote:
If Dear just played a solid abc macro game he could have beaten Jaedong for the last 2 games he played. I don't know why he threw it away like that.


Didn't JD kinda toss games 2 and 3 though? :S

like incontrol said.
should have been a 5-0
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Maegi
Profile Joined January 2013
Finland174 Posts
November 09 2013 17:01 GMT
#568
What's is the sc2 exhibion about?
NaNiwa <3
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 17:03:28
November 09 2013 17:01 GMT
#569
On November 10 2013 02:00 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 01:57 Strivers wrote:
If Dear just played a solid abc macro game he could have beaten Jaedong for the last 2 games he played. I don't know why he threw it away like that.


Didn't JD kinda toss games 2 and 3 though? :S

Yes he did. Overall I'd say that Jaedong was the more impressive player of the 2.

Dear is amazing too, so no hate.

On November 10 2013 01:59 norterrible wrote:
I'm rooting for Jaedong with all my heart but his games with dear were way to close for me to have confidence in him.

No confidence in him after he beat the "best player in the world"? Dear beat Soulkey 4-0 just a while ago, you know.
Hello
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7117 Posts
November 09 2013 17:02 GMT
#570
Jaedong sOs would make me super happy.

Make it happen, Bomber and Maru.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 09 2013 17:02 GMT
#571
On November 10 2013 01:55 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 01:53 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:51 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:48 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:47 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:44 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:37 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:22 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:20 awesomoecalypse wrote:
I would love a sOs vs Jaedong final the most. I wouldn't watch a TvT final. Either of the other two possibilities (Jaedong vs Bomber, sOs vs Maru) would be ok.


Maru against Bomber could produce the highest-level TvT in the history of SC2. That's worth watching, no?

proxy marauder against 11-11? proxy marauder against proxy marauder?
We have seen this already.


A strategy doesn't indicate high-level thinking or play. Thinking dictates strategy, and there's a huge difference between proxy marauder and proxy marauder because X, Y and Z.

When Idra went back to GSL, he was in a group with Nestea. He got 0-2ed. You could think of it as a 14-pool against a 10-pool and a 10-pool against a hatch-first. But then you miss out on the point of that series. Nestea was so far in Idra's head he could finish his sentences. You could also think of Jaedong against Dear, game 5, as a failed Gateway all-in. But why be so needlessly reductionist?

If we go by this logic, Soulkey vs sOs in GSL semis was great series.


Yes, it was.


That was a terrible series.


I don't agree. If any of those cannon rushes had been "what the fuck, I give up", then I'd agree with you.


So you were okay with the 4 games where sOs said to himself, He couldn't possibly be going mutas again!!!!!


Pretty much. It wasn't fun to watch, but that's what happens when one player is way ahead of the other mentally.


Still 4-3, and then sOs won the match the week after. Not that mentally ahead.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 09 2013 17:03 GMT
#572
On November 10 2013 01:56 75 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 01:54 alexiii wrote:
Lol at all the people blindly picking Jaedong over Maru. Do you guys only watch WCS America or something?

no, we also watched jaedong beating dear yesterday.


You have inside info that Maru is playing toss?
Moderator
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 17:07:58
November 09 2013 17:04 GMT
#573
On November 10 2013 02:03 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 01:56 75 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:54 alexiii wrote:
Lol at all the people blindly picking Jaedong over Maru. Do you guys only watch WCS America or something?

no, we also watched jaedong beating dear yesterday.


You have inside info that Maru is playing toss?

People said that Dear is the best player atm. Jaedong beat him.

He can beat anyone, even if on paper Maru is the better player. Just like on paper Dear is/was the better player.
Hello
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 09 2013 17:05 GMT
#574
On November 10 2013 02:01 Maegi wrote:
What's is the sc2 exhibion about?


It will either be awesome or unspeakably lame.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Melix
Profile Joined December 2010
United States89 Posts
November 09 2013 17:06 GMT
#575
Part of me wishes that they had made this a double elimination tournament. Getting just three games from someone like MVP is unfortunate, even if he's not in top form. Same really for everyone who was eliminated in the first round.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 09 2013 17:07 GMT
#576
On November 10 2013 02:02 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 01:55 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:53 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:51 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:48 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:47 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:44 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:37 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:22 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
[quote]

Maru against Bomber could produce the highest-level TvT in the history of SC2. That's worth watching, no?

proxy marauder against 11-11? proxy marauder against proxy marauder?
We have seen this already.


A strategy doesn't indicate high-level thinking or play. Thinking dictates strategy, and there's a huge difference between proxy marauder and proxy marauder because X, Y and Z.

When Idra went back to GSL, he was in a group with Nestea. He got 0-2ed. You could think of it as a 14-pool against a 10-pool and a 10-pool against a hatch-first. But then you miss out on the point of that series. Nestea was so far in Idra's head he could finish his sentences. You could also think of Jaedong against Dear, game 5, as a failed Gateway all-in. But why be so needlessly reductionist?

If we go by this logic, Soulkey vs sOs in GSL semis was great series.


Yes, it was.


That was a terrible series.


I don't agree. If any of those cannon rushes had been "what the fuck, I give up", then I'd agree with you.


So you were okay with the 4 games where sOs said to himself, He couldn't possibly be going mutas again!!!!!


Pretty much. It wasn't fun to watch, but that's what happens when one player is way ahead of the other mentally.


Still 4-3, and then sOs won the match the week after. Not that mentally ahead.


Things change in the course of a series, and players can make adjustments (or not make them). The first three games of that series, Soulkey had a pretty solid advantage over sOs.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16835 Posts
November 09 2013 17:08 GMT
#577
There's only one guy to cheer for.

Bomber.
The Bomber boy
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
November 09 2013 17:08 GMT
#578
On November 10 2013 02:04 Keeemy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 02:03 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:56 75 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:54 alexiii wrote:
Lol at all the people blindly picking Jaedong over Maru. Do you guys only watch WCS America or something?

no, we also watched jaedong beating dear yesterday.


You have inside info that Maru is playing toss?

People said that Dear is the best player atm. Jaedong beat him.

He can beat anyone, even if on paper Maru is the better player. Just like on paper Dear is/was the better player.


On paper I'd say Jaedong is the better player
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40186 Posts
November 09 2013 17:09 GMT
#579
On November 10 2013 02:08 Wintex wrote:
There's only one guy to cheer for.

Bomber.

Yeah, lose to sOs, fullfill the curse!
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
November 09 2013 17:10 GMT
#580
On November 10 2013 02:01 75 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 02:00 IntoTheheart wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:57 Strivers wrote:
If Dear just played a solid abc macro game he could have beaten Jaedong for the last 2 games he played. I don't know why he threw it away like that.


Didn't JD kinda toss games 2 and 3 though? :S

like incontrol said.
should have been a 5-0


I strongly disagree with this. Dear is a player who is incredibly good, perhaps the best in the world, on waiting for his opponent to make a mistake and then capitalize on it. Jaedong is a player that, for all his brilliance, can sometimes shoot himself in the foot with the occasional sloppy misstep. To simply discount the moments where Jaedong made mistakes and Dear capitalized as not being reflective of their skills doesn't make any sense.
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