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On November 10 2013 01:42 Chessz wrote:
aanyone have vods from yesterday
specifically jaedong game 5
check day 1 thraed or go to twitch.tv/wcs or /wcs_2
jaedong was played on mainstage ( ofc )
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I would like to see a TvT final, but I don't think Bomber could pass sOs(tossimba>.<), and I still hope Jaedong could win this.
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On November 10 2013 01:44 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2013 23:40 Zealously wrote:
이신형 @AcerINno 14h
I trained tvt so much... I wanted to show...
ill cry now Yeah, so much for robot. I always knew Innovation had a ton of emotions, he just tried to hide them. Poor guy gets so much shit from people
Anti-hype machines too strong? This calls for a deus ex machina.
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On November 10 2013 01:44 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 01:37 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On November 10 2013 01:29 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 10 2013 01:22 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On November 10 2013 01:20 awesomoecalypse wrote:
I would love a sOs vs Jaedong final the most. I wouldn't watch a TvT final. Either of the other two possibilities (Jaedong vs Bomber, sOs vs Maru) would be ok. Maru against Bomber could produce the highest-level TvT in the history of SC2. That's worth watching, no? proxy marauder against 11-11? proxy marauder against proxy marauder? We have seen this already. A strategy doesn't indicate high-level thinking or play. Thinking dictates strategy, and there's a huge difference between proxy marauder and proxy marauder because X, Y and Z. When Idra went back to GSL, he was in a group with Nestea. He got 0-2ed. You could think of it as a 14-pool against a 10-pool and a 10-pool against a hatch-first. But then you miss out on the point of that series. Nestea was so far in Idra's head he could finish his sentences. You could also think of Jaedong against Dear, game 5, as a failed Gateway all-in. But why be so needlessly reductionist? If we go by this logic, Soulkey vs sOs in GSL semis was great series.
Yes, it was.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On November 10 2013 01:47 LuckoftheIrish wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 01:44 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 10 2013 01:37 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On November 10 2013 01:29 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 10 2013 01:22 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On November 10 2013 01:20 awesomoecalypse wrote:
I would love a sOs vs Jaedong final the most. I wouldn't watch a TvT final. Either of the other two possibilities (Jaedong vs Bomber, sOs vs Maru) would be ok. Maru against Bomber could produce the highest-level TvT in the history of SC2. That's worth watching, no? proxy marauder against 11-11? proxy marauder against proxy marauder? We have seen this already. A strategy doesn't indicate high-level thinking or play. Thinking dictates strategy, and there's a huge difference between proxy marauder and proxy marauder because X, Y and Z. When Idra went back to GSL, he was in a group with Nestea. He got 0-2ed. You could think of it as a 14-pool against a 10-pool and a 10-pool against a hatch-first. But then you miss out on the point of that series. Nestea was so far in Idra's head he could finish his sentences. You could also think of Jaedong against Dear, game 5, as a failed Gateway all-in. But why be so needlessly reductionist? If we go by this logic, Soulkey vs sOs in GSL semis was great series. Yes, it was.
That was a terrible series.
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It's not too late to close this thread and continue in the day 1 one optown
this one can never live up to yesterday, it can only be a disappointment 
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Guys Alive gave you all a heart. Confirmed he is human. What a nice guy.
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On November 10 2013 01:48 Dodgin wrote:It's not too late to close this thread and continue in the day 1 one optown this one can never live up to yesterday, it can only be a disappointment
Probably won't even hit a thousand pages. How pitiful.
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On November 10 2013 01:48 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 01:47 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On November 10 2013 01:44 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 10 2013 01:37 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On November 10 2013 01:29 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 10 2013 01:22 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On November 10 2013 01:20 awesomoecalypse wrote:
I would love a sOs vs Jaedong final the most. I wouldn't watch a TvT final. Either of the other two possibilities (Jaedong vs Bomber, sOs vs Maru) would be ok. Maru against Bomber could produce the highest-level TvT in the history of SC2. That's worth watching, no? proxy marauder against 11-11? proxy marauder against proxy marauder? We have seen this already. A strategy doesn't indicate high-level thinking or play. Thinking dictates strategy, and there's a huge difference between proxy marauder and proxy marauder because X, Y and Z. When Idra went back to GSL, he was in a group with Nestea. He got 0-2ed. You could think of it as a 14-pool against a 10-pool and a 10-pool against a hatch-first. But then you miss out on the point of that series. Nestea was so far in Idra's head he could finish his sentences. You could also think of Jaedong against Dear, game 5, as a failed Gateway all-in. But why be so needlessly reductionist? If we go by this logic, Soulkey vs sOs in GSL semis was great series. Yes, it was. That was a terrible series.
I don't agree. If any of those cannon rushes had been "what the fuck, I give up", then I'd agree with you.
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On November 10 2013 01:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 01:48 Dodgin wrote:It's not too late to close this thread and continue in the day 1 one optown this one can never live up to yesterday, it can only be a disappointment Probably won't even hit a thousand pages. How pitiful.
Might as well cancel blizzcon, we're all wasting our time here
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On November 10 2013 01:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 01:48 Dodgin wrote:It's not too late to close this thread and continue in the day 1 one optown this one can never live up to yesterday, it can only be a disappointment Probably won't even hit a thousand pages. How pitiful.
we just need a jaedong vs bomber final with 2-3 draws in the series.
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On November 09 2013 14:53 Tobblish wrote:
Gotta start early here, predictions:
sOs < Bomber
Maru < Jaedong
Bomber 4 - 2 Jaedong
isn't it boring to repeat the s2 finals?
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On November 10 2013 01:51 LuckoftheIrish wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 01:48 stuchiu wrote:On November 10 2013 01:47 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On November 10 2013 01:44 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 10 2013 01:37 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On November 10 2013 01:29 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 10 2013 01:22 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On November 10 2013 01:20 awesomoecalypse wrote:
I would love a sOs vs Jaedong final the most. I wouldn't watch a TvT final. Either of the other two possibilities (Jaedong vs Bomber, sOs vs Maru) would be ok. Maru against Bomber could produce the highest-level TvT in the history of SC2. That's worth watching, no? proxy marauder against 11-11? proxy marauder against proxy marauder? We have seen this already. A strategy doesn't indicate high-level thinking or play. Thinking dictates strategy, and there's a huge difference between proxy marauder and proxy marauder because X, Y and Z. When Idra went back to GSL, he was in a group with Nestea. He got 0-2ed. You could think of it as a 14-pool against a 10-pool and a 10-pool against a hatch-first. But then you miss out on the point of that series. Nestea was so far in Idra's head he could finish his sentences. You could also think of Jaedong against Dear, game 5, as a failed Gateway all-in. But why be so needlessly reductionist? If we go by this logic, Soulkey vs sOs in GSL semis was great series. Yes, it was. That was a terrible series. I don't agree. If any of those cannon rushes had been "what the fuck, I give up", then I'd agree with you.
So you were okay with the 4 games where sOs said to himself, He couldn't possibly be going mutas again!!!!!
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On November 10 2013 01:52 75 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 01:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On November 10 2013 01:48 Dodgin wrote:It's not too late to close this thread and continue in the day 1 one optown this one can never live up to yesterday, it can only be a disappointment Probably won't even hit a thousand pages. How pitiful. we just need a jaedong vs bomber final with 2-3 draws in the series.
Also some BM in the interviews.
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On November 10 2013 01:44 LuckoftheIrish wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 01:39 awesomoecalypse wrote:On November 10 2013 01:36 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Seems that templar opening is the new standard meta to PvT. Quite interesting, really. Its just so much better against drops, it sets you up for the lategame better than colossi openings, and while its not quite as strong in direct engagements in the midgame as Colossi, the ability to morph archons does mitigate the lack of aoe while you're teching to storms, and if you're super gosu about it you can pull off stuff like storm drops. Its just a much more flexible tech path. It also lets you get superior upgrades.
The most crucial advantage is the mobility. To be able to use the robotics for other things than colossus also is very nice.
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Lol at all the people blindly picking Jaedong over Maru. Do you guys only watch WCS America or something?
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On November 10 2013 01:53 bearhug wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2013 14:53 Tobblish wrote:
Gotta start early here, predictions:
sOs < Bomber
Maru < Jaedong
Bomber 4 - 2 Jaedong isn't it boring to repeat the s2 finals?
Be 4-0 if we repeated.
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On November 10 2013 01:54 LuckoftheIrish wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 01:52 75 wrote:On November 10 2013 01:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On November 10 2013 01:48 Dodgin wrote:It's not too late to close this thread and continue in the day 1 one optown this one can never live up to yesterday, it can only be a disappointment Probably won't even hit a thousand pages. How pitiful. we just need a jaedong vs bomber final with 2-3 draws in the series. Also some BM in the interviews.
nah, if there is bm between the players we need a bomber vs maru final
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On November 10 2013 01:53 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 01:51 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On November 10 2013 01:48 stuchiu wrote:On November 10 2013 01:47 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On November 10 2013 01:44 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 10 2013 01:37 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On November 10 2013 01:29 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 10 2013 01:22 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On November 10 2013 01:20 awesomoecalypse wrote:
I would love a sOs vs Jaedong final the most. I wouldn't watch a TvT final. Either of the other two possibilities (Jaedong vs Bomber, sOs vs Maru) would be ok. Maru against Bomber could produce the highest-level TvT in the history of SC2. That's worth watching, no? proxy marauder against 11-11? proxy marauder against proxy marauder? We have seen this already. A strategy doesn't indicate high-level thinking or play. Thinking dictates strategy, and there's a huge difference between proxy marauder and proxy marauder because X, Y and Z. When Idra went back to GSL, he was in a group with Nestea. He got 0-2ed. You could think of it as a 14-pool against a 10-pool and a 10-pool against a hatch-first. But then you miss out on the point of that series. Nestea was so far in Idra's head he could finish his sentences. You could also think of Jaedong against Dear, game 5, as a failed Gateway all-in. But why be so needlessly reductionist? If we go by this logic, Soulkey vs sOs in GSL semis was great series. Yes, it was. That was a terrible series. I don't agree. If any of those cannon rushes had been "what the fuck, I give up", then I'd agree with you. So you were okay with the 4 games where sOs said to himself, He couldn't possibly be going mutas again!!!!!
Pretty much. It wasn't fun to watch, but that's what happens when one player is way ahead of the other mentally.
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