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Melix
Profile Joined December 2010
United States89 Posts
November 09 2013 16:46 GMT
#541
On November 10 2013 01:45 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 01:42 Chessz wrote:
aanyone have vods from yesterday
specifically jaedong game 5


Check the end of the day 1 thread.


You'll find it at the end of this:

http://www.twitch.tv/wcs/b/477842650
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
November 09 2013 16:46 GMT
#542
On November 10 2013 01:42 Chessz wrote:
aanyone have vods from yesterday
specifically jaedong game 5

check day 1 thraed or go to twitch.tv/wcs or /wcs_2
jaedong was played on mainstage ( ofc )
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
lystier
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
China877 Posts
November 09 2013 16:47 GMT
#543
I would like to see a TvT final, but I don't think Bomber could pass sOs(tossimba>.<), and I still hope Jaedong could win this.
Startale forever.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 09 2013 16:47 GMT
#544
On November 10 2013 01:44 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 23:40 Zealously wrote:
이신형 ‏@AcerINno 14h
I trained tvt so much... I wanted to show...

ill cry now


Yeah, so much for robot. I always knew Innovation had a ton of emotions, he just tried to hide them. Poor guy gets so much shit from people


Anti-hype machines too strong? This calls for a deus ex machina.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 09 2013 16:47 GMT
#545
On November 10 2013 01:44 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 01:37 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:22 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:20 awesomoecalypse wrote:
I would love a sOs vs Jaedong final the most. I wouldn't watch a TvT final. Either of the other two possibilities (Jaedong vs Bomber, sOs vs Maru) would be ok.


Maru against Bomber could produce the highest-level TvT in the history of SC2. That's worth watching, no?

proxy marauder against 11-11? proxy marauder against proxy marauder?
We have seen this already.


A strategy doesn't indicate high-level thinking or play. Thinking dictates strategy, and there's a huge difference between proxy marauder and proxy marauder because X, Y and Z.

When Idra went back to GSL, he was in a group with Nestea. He got 0-2ed. You could think of it as a 14-pool against a 10-pool and a 10-pool against a hatch-first. But then you miss out on the point of that series. Nestea was so far in Idra's head he could finish his sentences. You could also think of Jaedong against Dear, game 5, as a failed Gateway all-in. But why be so needlessly reductionist?

If we go by this logic, Soulkey vs sOs in GSL semis was great series.


Yes, it was.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 09 2013 16:48 GMT
#546
On November 10 2013 01:47 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 01:44 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:37 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:22 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:20 awesomoecalypse wrote:
I would love a sOs vs Jaedong final the most. I wouldn't watch a TvT final. Either of the other two possibilities (Jaedong vs Bomber, sOs vs Maru) would be ok.


Maru against Bomber could produce the highest-level TvT in the history of SC2. That's worth watching, no?

proxy marauder against 11-11? proxy marauder against proxy marauder?
We have seen this already.


A strategy doesn't indicate high-level thinking or play. Thinking dictates strategy, and there's a huge difference between proxy marauder and proxy marauder because X, Y and Z.

When Idra went back to GSL, he was in a group with Nestea. He got 0-2ed. You could think of it as a 14-pool against a 10-pool and a 10-pool against a hatch-first. But then you miss out on the point of that series. Nestea was so far in Idra's head he could finish his sentences. You could also think of Jaedong against Dear, game 5, as a failed Gateway all-in. But why be so needlessly reductionist?

If we go by this logic, Soulkey vs sOs in GSL semis was great series.


Yes, it was.


That was a terrible series.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 09 2013 16:48 GMT
#547
It's not too late to close this thread and continue in the day 1 one optown

this one can never live up to yesterday, it can only be a disappointment
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 09 2013 16:48 GMT
#548
Guys Alive gave you all a heart. Confirmed he is human. What a nice guy.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45386 Posts
November 09 2013 16:50 GMT
#549
On November 10 2013 01:48 Dodgin wrote:
It's not too late to close this thread and continue in the day 1 one optown

this one can never live up to yesterday, it can only be a disappointment


Probably won't even hit a thousand pages. How pitiful.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 09 2013 16:51 GMT
#550
On November 10 2013 01:48 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 01:47 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:44 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:37 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:22 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:20 awesomoecalypse wrote:
I would love a sOs vs Jaedong final the most. I wouldn't watch a TvT final. Either of the other two possibilities (Jaedong vs Bomber, sOs vs Maru) would be ok.


Maru against Bomber could produce the highest-level TvT in the history of SC2. That's worth watching, no?

proxy marauder against 11-11? proxy marauder against proxy marauder?
We have seen this already.


A strategy doesn't indicate high-level thinking or play. Thinking dictates strategy, and there's a huge difference between proxy marauder and proxy marauder because X, Y and Z.

When Idra went back to GSL, he was in a group with Nestea. He got 0-2ed. You could think of it as a 14-pool against a 10-pool and a 10-pool against a hatch-first. But then you miss out on the point of that series. Nestea was so far in Idra's head he could finish his sentences. You could also think of Jaedong against Dear, game 5, as a failed Gateway all-in. But why be so needlessly reductionist?

If we go by this logic, Soulkey vs sOs in GSL semis was great series.


Yes, it was.


That was a terrible series.


I don't agree. If any of those cannon rushes had been "what the fuck, I give up", then I'd agree with you.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 09 2013 16:52 GMT
#551
On November 10 2013 01:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 01:48 Dodgin wrote:
It's not too late to close this thread and continue in the day 1 one optown

this one can never live up to yesterday, it can only be a disappointment


Probably won't even hit a thousand pages. How pitiful.

Might as well cancel blizzcon, we're all wasting our time here
Glorious SEA doto
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
November 09 2013 16:52 GMT
#552
On November 10 2013 01:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 01:48 Dodgin wrote:
It's not too late to close this thread and continue in the day 1 one optown

this one can never live up to yesterday, it can only be a disappointment


Probably won't even hit a thousand pages. How pitiful.

we just need a jaedong vs bomber final with 2-3 draws in the series.
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
bearhug
Profile Joined September 2010
United States999 Posts
November 09 2013 16:53 GMT
#553
On November 09 2013 14:53 Tobblish wrote:
Gotta start early here, predictions:

sOs < Bomber
Maru < Jaedong

Bomber 4 - 2 Jaedong


isn't it boring to repeat the s2 finals?
We are dusts in the vast cosmic arena. Need to make the most out of life when we still have it.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 09 2013 16:53 GMT
#554
On November 10 2013 01:51 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 01:48 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:47 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:44 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:37 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:22 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:20 awesomoecalypse wrote:
I would love a sOs vs Jaedong final the most. I wouldn't watch a TvT final. Either of the other two possibilities (Jaedong vs Bomber, sOs vs Maru) would be ok.


Maru against Bomber could produce the highest-level TvT in the history of SC2. That's worth watching, no?

proxy marauder against 11-11? proxy marauder against proxy marauder?
We have seen this already.


A strategy doesn't indicate high-level thinking or play. Thinking dictates strategy, and there's a huge difference between proxy marauder and proxy marauder because X, Y and Z.

When Idra went back to GSL, he was in a group with Nestea. He got 0-2ed. You could think of it as a 14-pool against a 10-pool and a 10-pool against a hatch-first. But then you miss out on the point of that series. Nestea was so far in Idra's head he could finish his sentences. You could also think of Jaedong against Dear, game 5, as a failed Gateway all-in. But why be so needlessly reductionist?

If we go by this logic, Soulkey vs sOs in GSL semis was great series.


Yes, it was.


That was a terrible series.


I don't agree. If any of those cannon rushes had been "what the fuck, I give up", then I'd agree with you.


So you were okay with the 4 games where sOs said to himself, He couldn't possibly be going mutas again!!!!!
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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 09 2013 16:54 GMT
#555
On November 10 2013 01:52 75 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 01:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:48 Dodgin wrote:
It's not too late to close this thread and continue in the day 1 one optown

this one can never live up to yesterday, it can only be a disappointment


Probably won't even hit a thousand pages. How pitiful.

we just need a jaedong vs bomber final with 2-3 draws in the series.


Also some BM in the interviews.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
November 09 2013 16:54 GMT
#556
On November 10 2013 01:44 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 01:39 awesomoecalypse wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:36 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Seems that templar opening is the new standard meta to PvT. Quite interesting, really.


Its just so much better against drops, it sets you up for the lategame better than colossi openings, and while its not quite as strong in direct engagements in the midgame as Colossi, the ability to morph archons does mitigate the lack of aoe while you're teching to storms, and if you're super gosu about it you can pull off stuff like storm drops. Its just a much more flexible tech path.


It also lets you get superior upgrades.


The most crucial advantage is the mobility. To be able to use the robotics for other things than colossus also is very nice.
alexiii
Profile Joined February 2012
Belgium41 Posts
November 09 2013 16:54 GMT
#557
Lol at all the people blindly picking Jaedong over Maru. Do you guys only watch WCS America or something?
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
November 09 2013 16:54 GMT
#558
On November 10 2013 01:53 bearhug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 14:53 Tobblish wrote:
Gotta start early here, predictions:

sOs < Bomber
Maru < Jaedong

Bomber 4 - 2 Jaedong


isn't it boring to repeat the s2 finals?

Be 4-0 if we repeated.
kiss kiss fall in love
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 16:55:41
November 09 2013 16:55 GMT
#559
On November 10 2013 01:54 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 01:52 75 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:48 Dodgin wrote:
It's not too late to close this thread and continue in the day 1 one optown

this one can never live up to yesterday, it can only be a disappointment


Probably won't even hit a thousand pages. How pitiful.

we just need a jaedong vs bomber final with 2-3 draws in the series.


Also some BM in the interviews.

nah, if there is bm between the players we need a bomber vs maru final
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 09 2013 16:55 GMT
#560
On November 10 2013 01:53 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 01:51 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:48 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:47 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:44 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:37 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:22 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:20 awesomoecalypse wrote:
I would love a sOs vs Jaedong final the most. I wouldn't watch a TvT final. Either of the other two possibilities (Jaedong vs Bomber, sOs vs Maru) would be ok.


Maru against Bomber could produce the highest-level TvT in the history of SC2. That's worth watching, no?

proxy marauder against 11-11? proxy marauder against proxy marauder?
We have seen this already.


A strategy doesn't indicate high-level thinking or play. Thinking dictates strategy, and there's a huge difference between proxy marauder and proxy marauder because X, Y and Z.

When Idra went back to GSL, he was in a group with Nestea. He got 0-2ed. You could think of it as a 14-pool against a 10-pool and a 10-pool against a hatch-first. But then you miss out on the point of that series. Nestea was so far in Idra's head he could finish his sentences. You could also think of Jaedong against Dear, game 5, as a failed Gateway all-in. But why be so needlessly reductionist?

If we go by this logic, Soulkey vs sOs in GSL semis was great series.


Yes, it was.


That was a terrible series.


I don't agree. If any of those cannon rushes had been "what the fuck, I give up", then I'd agree with you.


So you were okay with the 4 games where sOs said to himself, He couldn't possibly be going mutas again!!!!!


Pretty much. It wasn't fun to watch, but that's what happens when one player is way ahead of the other mentally.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
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