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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 09 2013 17:10 GMT
#581
On November 10 2013 02:08 Wintex wrote:
There's only one guy to cheer for.

Tasteless.


FTFY.
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Lorning *
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Belgica34432 Posts
November 09 2013 17:10 GMT
#582
On November 10 2013 02:08 Wintex wrote:
There's only one guy to cheer for.

Bomber.

There's not a thing more wrong in the world, than this statement.

Maru all the way.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 09 2013 17:10 GMT
#583
On November 10 2013 02:04 Keeemy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 02:03 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:56 75 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:54 alexiii wrote:
Lol at all the people blindly picking Jaedong over Maru. Do you guys only watch WCS America or something?

no, we also watched jaedong beating dear yesterday.


You have inside info that Maru is playing toss?

People said that Dear is the best player atm. Jaedong beat him.

He can beat anyone, even if on paper Maru is the better player. Just like on paper Dear is/was the better player.


By that logic, Oz is better than almost everyone here cause he also beat Dear.
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askmc70
Profile Joined March 2012
United States722 Posts
November 09 2013 17:11 GMT
#584
what is this exhibition match?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 09 2013 17:11 GMT
#585
On November 10 2013 02:07 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 02:02 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:55 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:53 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:51 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:48 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:47 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:44 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:37 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
[quote]
proxy marauder against 11-11? proxy marauder against proxy marauder?
We have seen this already.


A strategy doesn't indicate high-level thinking or play. Thinking dictates strategy, and there's a huge difference between proxy marauder and proxy marauder because X, Y and Z.

When Idra went back to GSL, he was in a group with Nestea. He got 0-2ed. You could think of it as a 14-pool against a 10-pool and a 10-pool against a hatch-first. But then you miss out on the point of that series. Nestea was so far in Idra's head he could finish his sentences. You could also think of Jaedong against Dear, game 5, as a failed Gateway all-in. But why be so needlessly reductionist?

If we go by this logic, Soulkey vs sOs in GSL semis was great series.


Yes, it was.


That was a terrible series.


I don't agree. If any of those cannon rushes had been "what the fuck, I give up", then I'd agree with you.


So you were okay with the 4 games where sOs said to himself, He couldn't possibly be going mutas again!!!!!


Pretty much. It wasn't fun to watch, but that's what happens when one player is way ahead of the other mentally.


Still 4-3, and then sOs won the match the week after. Not that mentally ahead.


Things change in the course of a series, and players can make adjustments (or not make them). The first three games of that series, Soulkey had a pretty solid advantage over sOs.


So you'd say he wasn't that mentally ahead of sOs then?
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
November 09 2013 17:12 GMT
#586
On November 10 2013 02:10 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 02:04 Keeemy wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:03 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:56 75 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:54 alexiii wrote:
Lol at all the people blindly picking Jaedong over Maru. Do you guys only watch WCS America or something?

no, we also watched jaedong beating dear yesterday.


You have inside info that Maru is playing toss?

People said that Dear is the best player atm. Jaedong beat him.

He can beat anyone, even if on paper Maru is the better player. Just like on paper Dear is/was the better player.


By that logic, Oz is better than almost everyone here cause he also beat Dear.

sOs 2 0 Dear.
What are you talking about?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 09 2013 17:12 GMT
#587
On November 10 2013 02:10 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 02:04 Keeemy wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:03 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:56 75 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:54 alexiii wrote:
Lol at all the people blindly picking Jaedong over Maru. Do you guys only watch WCS America or something?

no, we also watched jaedong beating dear yesterday.


You have inside info that Maru is playing toss?

People said that Dear is the best player atm. Jaedong beat him.

He can beat anyone, even if on paper Maru is the better player. Just like on paper Dear is/was the better player.


By that logic, Oz is better than almost everyone here cause he also beat Dear.


No, Oz is better than everyone here because he's unbeatable in PvP duh
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TaishiCi
Profile Joined September 2013
Korea (South)211 Posts
November 09 2013 17:13 GMT
#588
Bomber is least likely, but I hope he can get recognition as the top players for once in his career before he retires.
I can see Bomber take out sOs, if sOs decides to just play standard vs Bomber (unlikely).
If Jaedong beats Maru (extremely unlikely), Bomber will no doubt beat Jaedong for the win.
However, if Maru wins I don't think Bomber will beat him.

Jaedong isn't going to win vs Maru's TvZ. If he does and sOs beats Bomber he will win the grand finals.
sOs will probably beat Bomber and lose against Maru.
Maru should be a heavy favorite to win it all, I don't understand why he wasn't.

Maru's mechanics are now on par with any top Terran, with a wide range of builds and flexible execution.
Maru is going to be what we thought he would become from the open season and what Innovation/Flash should have become.
Dae Han Min Gook Man Sae!!!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44368 Posts
November 09 2013 17:14 GMT
#589
On November 10 2013 01:52 75 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 01:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:48 Dodgin wrote:
It's not too late to close this thread and continue in the day 1 one optown

this one can never live up to yesterday, it can only be a disappointment


Probably won't even hit a thousand pages. How pitiful.

we just need a jaedong vs bomber final with 2-3 draws in the series.


Maybe Jaedong will cause the power to go out, causing a ten-hour long delay where everyone reminisces over FvJ and KeSPA.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 09 2013 17:14 GMT
#590
On November 10 2013 02:12 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 02:10 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:04 Keeemy wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:03 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:56 75 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:54 alexiii wrote:
Lol at all the people blindly picking Jaedong over Maru. Do you guys only watch WCS America or something?

no, we also watched jaedong beating dear yesterday.


You have inside info that Maru is playing toss?

People said that Dear is the best player atm. Jaedong beat him.

He can beat anyone, even if on paper Maru is the better player. Just like on paper Dear is/was the better player.


By that logic, Oz is better than almost everyone here cause he also beat Dear.


No, Oz is better than everyone here because he's unbeatable in PvP duh


And Jaedong is better than Maru cause his ZvP is godlike. You have given me the light.
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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 09 2013 17:14 GMT
#591
On November 10 2013 02:11 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 02:07 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:02 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:55 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:53 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:51 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:48 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:47 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:44 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:37 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
[quote]

A strategy doesn't indicate high-level thinking or play. Thinking dictates strategy, and there's a huge difference between proxy marauder and proxy marauder because X, Y and Z.

When Idra went back to GSL, he was in a group with Nestea. He got 0-2ed. You could think of it as a 14-pool against a 10-pool and a 10-pool against a hatch-first. But then you miss out on the point of that series. Nestea was so far in Idra's head he could finish his sentences. You could also think of Jaedong against Dear, game 5, as a failed Gateway all-in. But why be so needlessly reductionist?

If we go by this logic, Soulkey vs sOs in GSL semis was great series.


Yes, it was.


That was a terrible series.


I don't agree. If any of those cannon rushes had been "what the fuck, I give up", then I'd agree with you.


So you were okay with the 4 games where sOs said to himself, He couldn't possibly be going mutas again!!!!!


Pretty much. It wasn't fun to watch, but that's what happens when one player is way ahead of the other mentally.


Still 4-3, and then sOs won the match the week after. Not that mentally ahead.


Things change in the course of a series, and players can make adjustments (or not make them). The first three games of that series, Soulkey had a pretty solid advantage over sOs.


So you'd say he wasn't that mentally ahead of sOs then?


Going into that series, yes, he was. And he blitzed his opponent, who made good adjustments but couldn't ultimately dig himself out of the hole.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
November 09 2013 17:14 GMT
#592
Just watched almost all of the vods, and I gotta say, this is one the best tournaments in SC2 so far.

If Jaedong wins it all, I'll be so happy. What a thing to win the largest tournament of the year after placing second in four in a short time. So exciting. Can't wait for the ro4 matches in a few hours.
Flash | Mvp
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44368 Posts
November 09 2013 17:14 GMT
#593
On November 10 2013 02:12 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 02:10 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:04 Keeemy wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:03 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:56 75 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:54 alexiii wrote:
Lol at all the people blindly picking Jaedong over Maru. Do you guys only watch WCS America or something?

no, we also watched jaedong beating dear yesterday.


You have inside info that Maru is playing toss?

People said that Dear is the best player atm. Jaedong beat him.

He can beat anyone, even if on paper Maru is the better player. Just like on paper Dear is/was the better player.


By that logic, Oz is better than almost everyone here cause he also beat Dear.


No, Oz is better than everyone here because he's unbeatable in PvP duh


Oz vs. Elfi... uh oh.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 09 2013 17:15 GMT
#594
On November 10 2013 02:12 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 02:10 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:04 Keeemy wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:03 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:56 75 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:54 alexiii wrote:
Lol at all the people blindly picking Jaedong over Maru. Do you guys only watch WCS America or something?

no, we also watched jaedong beating dear yesterday.


You have inside info that Maru is playing toss?

People said that Dear is the best player atm. Jaedong beat him.

He can beat anyone, even if on paper Maru is the better player. Just like on paper Dear is/was the better player.


By that logic, Oz is better than almost everyone here cause he also beat Dear.

sOs 2 0 Dear.
What are you talking about?


Shit sos in top 4, Dear is out. Makes sense to me.
Moderator
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 09 2013 17:15 GMT
#595
On November 10 2013 02:14 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 02:12 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:10 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:04 Keeemy wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:03 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:56 75 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:54 alexiii wrote:
Lol at all the people blindly picking Jaedong over Maru. Do you guys only watch WCS America or something?

no, we also watched jaedong beating dear yesterday.


You have inside info that Maru is playing toss?

People said that Dear is the best player atm. Jaedong beat him.

He can beat anyone, even if on paper Maru is the better player. Just like on paper Dear is/was the better player.


By that logic, Oz is better than almost everyone here cause he also beat Dear.


No, Oz is better than everyone here because he's unbeatable in PvP duh


And Jaedong is better than Maru cause his ZvP is godlike. You have given me the light.


It's almost like you have a weird switch set to 'misinterpret.'

On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 09 2013 17:15 GMT
#596
On November 10 2013 02:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 02:12 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:10 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:04 Keeemy wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:03 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:56 75 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:54 alexiii wrote:
Lol at all the people blindly picking Jaedong over Maru. Do you guys only watch WCS America or something?

no, we also watched jaedong beating dear yesterday.


You have inside info that Maru is playing toss?

People said that Dear is the best player atm. Jaedong beat him.

He can beat anyone, even if on paper Maru is the better player. Just like on paper Dear is/was the better player.


By that logic, Oz is better than almost everyone here cause he also beat Dear.


No, Oz is better than everyone here because he's unbeatable in PvP duh


Oz vs. Elfi... uh oh.


Elfi Oz WCS 2014 grand finals please.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
November 09 2013 17:16 GMT
#597
On November 10 2013 02:15 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 02:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:12 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:10 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:04 Keeemy wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:03 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:56 75 wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:54 alexiii wrote:
Lol at all the people blindly picking Jaedong over Maru. Do you guys only watch WCS America or something?

no, we also watched jaedong beating dear yesterday.


You have inside info that Maru is playing toss?

People said that Dear is the best player atm. Jaedong beat him.

He can beat anyone, even if on paper Maru is the better player. Just like on paper Dear is/was the better player.


By that logic, Oz is better than almost everyone here cause he also beat Dear.


No, Oz is better than everyone here because he's unbeatable in PvP duh


Oz vs. Elfi... uh oh.


Elfi Oz WCS 2014 grand finals please.

With region lock it is even possible :O
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 09 2013 17:16 GMT
#598
On November 10 2013 02:14 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 02:11 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:07 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:02 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:55 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:53 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:51 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:48 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:47 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:44 lolfail9001 wrote:
[quote]
If we go by this logic, Soulkey vs sOs in GSL semis was great series.


Yes, it was.


That was a terrible series.


I don't agree. If any of those cannon rushes had been "what the fuck, I give up", then I'd agree with you.


So you were okay with the 4 games where sOs said to himself, He couldn't possibly be going mutas again!!!!!


Pretty much. It wasn't fun to watch, but that's what happens when one player is way ahead of the other mentally.


Still 4-3, and then sOs won the match the week after. Not that mentally ahead.


Things change in the course of a series, and players can make adjustments (or not make them). The first three games of that series, Soulkey had a pretty solid advantage over sOs.


So you'd say he wasn't that mentally ahead of sOs then?


Going into that series, yes, he was. And he blitzed his opponent, who made good adjustments but couldn't ultimately dig himself out of the hole.


Ahead sure, but wayyyy ahead?
Moderator
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
November 09 2013 17:16 GMT
#599
Bomber>SoS
Maru>Jaedong

Maru>Bomber
MC for president
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 09 2013 17:17 GMT
#600
On November 10 2013 02:16 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 02:14 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:11 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:07 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 02:02 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:55 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:53 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:51 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:48 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 01:47 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
[quote]

Yes, it was.


That was a terrible series.


I don't agree. If any of those cannon rushes had been "what the fuck, I give up", then I'd agree with you.


So you were okay with the 4 games where sOs said to himself, He couldn't possibly be going mutas again!!!!!


Pretty much. It wasn't fun to watch, but that's what happens when one player is way ahead of the other mentally.


Still 4-3, and then sOs won the match the week after. Not that mentally ahead.


Things change in the course of a series, and players can make adjustments (or not make them). The first three games of that series, Soulkey had a pretty solid advantage over sOs.


So you'd say he wasn't that mentally ahead of sOs then?


Going into that series, yes, he was. And he blitzed his opponent, who made good adjustments but couldn't ultimately dig himself out of the hole.


Ahead sure, but wayyyy ahead?


I'm no longer participating in your stupid game of gotcha.
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