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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 26 2013 02:00 GMT
#4381
Never make promises you cannot keep MC. :/ It doesn't end well.
TimENT
Profile Joined November 2012
United States1425 Posts
October 26 2013 02:00 GMT
#4382
Prime minister? I guess that's a new nickname (cut me some slack I haven't really watched SC2 in a long time)
Barcelona / Arsenal Fan!
jarhead271
Profile Joined October 2010
United States160 Posts
October 26 2013 02:00 GMT
#4383
MC, thank you for being so awesome.
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
October 26 2013 02:00 GMT
#4384
On October 26 2013 10:58 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 10:54 Cramsy wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:53 Darkhoarse wrote:
What the hell... Hack gets up 65 supply by nice micro.... vanishes with two storms...


Been the standard TvP since sc2 came out. Really nice emps and micro from Hack but all negated because of 2 storms

Why are the emps nice but the storms are ezmode? The ghosts just sit in a ball, the templar are spaced out coming from different angles.

Why are the emps nice but the storms are ezmode? The ghosts just sit in a ball, the templar are spaced out coming from different angles - here's the answer no? I don't think it's an imba issue, but storm hit's clumped army (even if it's well spread storm still hits a lot) while emp hits a templar. And there's those 5 templars left.
Michael Probu
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
October 26 2013 02:00 GMT
#4385
On October 26 2013 10:59 shockaslim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 10:54 dainbramage wrote:
OK terrans.

Supplies even

Terran gets up 60 supply form good EMPs

Protoss equalizes that with good storms, then wins once he gets the upgrade advantage.

Where the hell is the balance whine coming from?


Because it defies all logic of RTS play. You don't just equalize, especially in the middle of a fight, from being 60 supply down. Thats where the balance whine is coming from.


I'm guessing you never watched BW then, because a perfectly placed spell (including storms) could absolutely swing a game that had looked unwinnable.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
October 26 2013 02:00 GMT
#4386
On October 26 2013 10:57 Exarl25 wrote:
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On October 26 2013 10:55 Darkhoarse wrote:
This any other protoss stuff is way over the top. A lot of good Protosses could've stormed like that.


MC just knows how to win, like no other player. As if just any Protoss could have pulled that off. There is a reason why he has the most prize money of any player in SC2 history, surpassing even Mvp.

I say that has more to do with Mvp's injury tough. Imagine if he was in form and played as much as MC, nobody would get close to him
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
October 26 2013 02:00 GMT
#4387
On October 26 2013 10:59 shockaslim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 10:54 dainbramage wrote:
OK terrans.

Supplies even

Terran gets up 60 supply form good EMPs

Protoss equalizes that with good storms, then wins once he gets the upgrade advantage.

Where the hell is the balance whine coming from?


Because it defies all logic of RTS play. You don't just equalize, especially in the middle of a fight, from being 60 supply down. Thats where the balance whine is coming from.

Except the bio was all overstimmed and hadn't even healed before the start of the fight due to a low medivac count (MC constantly sniped them that game). Supply doesn't mean much when it's half hp T1 getting hit by T3 AoE.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
October 26 2013 02:00 GMT
#4388
On October 26 2013 10:59 shockaslim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 10:54 dainbramage wrote:
OK terrans.

Supplies even

Terran gets up 60 supply form good EMPs

Protoss equalizes that with good storms, then wins once he gets the upgrade advantage.

Where the hell is the balance whine coming from?


Because it defies all logic of RTS play. You don't just equalize, especially in the middle of a fight, from being 60 supply down. Thats where the balance whine is coming from.


Supply is irrelevent here. All of the terran units were VERY low health. If the units had more health, Hack could have minimized damage from them and won.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
GulpyBlinkeyes
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1449 Posts
October 26 2013 02:00 GMT
#4389
MC, I want to believe. Please win this!
SkullZ9
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium2048 Posts
October 26 2013 02:00 GMT
#4390
On October 26 2013 10:58 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 10:57 Exarl25 wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:55 Darkhoarse wrote:
This any other protoss stuff is way over the top. A lot of good Protosses could've stormed like that.


MC just knows how to win, like no other player. As if just any Protoss could have pulled that off. There is a reason why he has the most prize money of any player in SC2 history, surpassing even Mvp.

I mean that game specifically.


Lol no, that defense was crazy, he was down in supply by a huge number and he had amazing control of all his army. I don't think "any protoss could have pulled that off"
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
October 26 2013 02:00 GMT
#4391
On October 26 2013 10:56 Griffith` wrote:
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On October 26 2013 10:54 Mozdk wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:54 Griffith` wrote:
Storms LOL. sigh what a horrid game.


WHAT?

Because the Terran is losing? Come on, this is a great fucking game!


No because it makes for a horrid viewing experience when half the army vanishes in 1 second.


BW must have been the worst game of all time then for the viewers when Terran was involved haha. Melting armies in seconds was in their race description ^.^
Green_25
Profile Joined June 2013
Great Britain696 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 02:01:32
October 26 2013 02:01 GMT
#4392
MC interviews are the best interviews

Lol @ Hack played good so I had to make templar
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 02:02:12
October 26 2013 02:01 GMT
#4393
On October 26 2013 10:59 shockaslim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 10:54 dainbramage wrote:
OK terrans.

Supplies even

Terran gets up 60 supply form good EMPs

Protoss equalizes that with good storms, then wins once he gets the upgrade advantage.

Where the hell is the balance whine coming from?


Because it defies all logic of RTS play. You don't just equalize, especially in the middle of a fight, from being 60 supply down. Thats where the balance whine is coming from.


He clearly had those templar for a while and were holding them back, so he wasn't engaging with at least 50% of his most powerful AOE unit that was integral to his composition. So yes, you can equalize in the middle of the fight and it makes perfect sense. And he was like 40 supply down, not 20, with defender's advantage, with much of Hack's supply being taken up in production, with a huge chunk of Hack's army significantly damaged with low medivac count. Doesn't defy any logic whatsoever.
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
October 26 2013 02:01 GMT
#4394
MC is like the perfect showman, really knows how to work the crowd.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
October 26 2013 02:01 GMT
#4395
On October 26 2013 10:59 Highcounsel wrote:
MC is the staple product of sc2, there is not one other player that has been around this long and still winning and winning...just insane and on top of it he has impeccable people skills.

I can't help but root for him. Even though he's already filthy rich
Neosteel Enthusiast
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
October 26 2013 02:01 GMT
#4396
On October 26 2013 10:59 Highcounsel wrote:
MC is the staple product of sc2, there is not one other player that has been around this long and still winning and winning...just insane and on top of it he has impeccable people skills.


Mvp has, but MC has that charisma that really propels him with the fans.

Mvp's ability to defy all odds and win puts him in the same lofty heights though.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
October 26 2013 02:01 GMT
#4397
MC MC ALWAYS MC !!! xD
*burp*
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 26 2013 02:01 GMT
#4398
On October 26 2013 11:00 TimENT wrote:
Prime minister? I guess that's a new nickname (cut me some slack I haven't really watched SC2 in a long time)

Just because he's in Canada. No President there!
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Swede
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand853 Posts
October 26 2013 02:01 GMT
#4399
On October 26 2013 10:59 shockaslim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 10:54 dainbramage wrote:
OK terrans.

Supplies even

Terran gets up 60 supply form good EMPs

Protoss equalizes that with good storms, then wins once he gets the upgrade advantage.

Where the hell is the balance whine coming from?


Because it defies all logic of RTS play. You don't just equalize, especially in the middle of a fight, from being 60 supply down. Thats where the balance whine is coming from.


Keep in mind that Hack had the option of retreating once he gained that large advantage, or at least moving back and reassessing his position. It was his choice to push further in with damaged units and knowing that MC had storm. He didn't have to close the game there but he took that risk anyway.

I really don't see how anybody could complain about those storms.
Cramsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1100 Posts
October 26 2013 02:01 GMT
#4400
On October 26 2013 10:59 shockaslim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 10:54 dainbramage wrote:
OK terrans.

Supplies even

Terran gets up 60 supply form good EMPs

Protoss equalizes that with good storms, then wins once he gets the upgrade advantage.

Where the hell is the balance whine coming from?


Because it defies all logic of RTS play. You don't just equalize, especially in the middle of a fight, from being 60 supply down. Thats where the balance whine is coming from.


Also because it was an awesome game the whole way through. Great trades and control from both players. Then it's just switches to fucking dumb mode at the end
"give me 20 minutes and I'll make them quiet" - MVP
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