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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12636 Posts
October 16 2013 12:57 GMT
#481
On October 16 2013 21:39 Ghanburighan wrote:
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On October 16 2013 21:27 ETisME wrote:
On October 16 2013 21:04 AxionSteel wrote:
On October 16 2013 21:02 ETisME wrote:
On October 16 2013 20:58 TheDwf wrote:
On October 16 2013 20:56 ETisME wrote:
LOL build mines and hope it gets a nice hit

So this is your summary of the game?

uhhhh nope, I am saying he just build tonnes of mines and while may be 30 of them didn't get a nice hit, those two hits alone sealed the game and I don't even know if that was intended which is the funny part lol


No one mine hit ( or two) sealed that game.

One mine killed around 10 banelings when he sent off for harassing.
the final shot killed around 20 banelings or so.

Even if Sleep macro was horrible, how am I supposed to appreciate fantasy skill in placing those widow mines there?
what a genius to put mines into the 4th?

or should i say to sleep, tough luck, you need overseer for every run bys and hope it doesn't get shut down even if terran wasn't looking there?
Or tough luck, there are more mines there but you can't see it because overseer wasn't near by and it was either you go in after bait some mine shots and hope there are no more mines?


First of all, Fantasy WAS looking there. He lifted the OC at the last moment and ran the scv's away. He probably also targeted the bane group because it was perfectly centered, something that would not have happened manually.

Secondly, Sleep messed up royally by a) not having detection, b) not splitting the banes in any way.

I always thought that using banes to snipe an expansion is a terrible mechanic because for a set cost you eliminate something crucial (a base) in a very short amount of time, unless the terran has defences ready. As soon as the Z has has an X amount of minerals and gas, the base is forfeit. And that's not good entertaining harassment.

the point is, he didn't even need to lift it up.
The lift up saved maybe 20 scvs, but he would have killed around 10 banelings for the scvs which is ideal anyway.
secondly, the "probably" is exactly what I have problem with. We don't even know did fantasy do anything for the mine to hit so well. It isn't the first time we see a mine hit that is as good as it without terran even needing to micro it at all.

as for Sleep messing up, I honestly think it just completely sucks because unlike tank which you can have an idea how many units to break through, you can't do that with mine. You have to have an overseer and without overseer, you have to wait to get one which you don't always have time to get one.

The last death was basically showing the problem, you can't wait enough for overseer to morph or you will lose the 4th and terran knowing that can just push forward and be more aggressive with the bio poke.
Overseer is with muta harassing? him dropping a mine bio drop? guess you have to morph another overseer or wait for your muta to go there to clean it up.
You have to have overseer literally for everything, defense, attack, run by etc.

You can snipe a drop, another drop with widow mine bio, and a main push with a widow mine bio push, your overseer and muta is all the way sniped that drop.
I mean it's like a dt with aoe damage drop defense while your race has no instant detection and once the mine hit is there, you cannot micro it off.
It's doable, but it's silly, especially considering the mine shots are even automatic and you can spam them with late game economy. It is such a mess up once and I will swing the game right back type of unit .
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3830 Posts
October 16 2013 14:56 GMT
#482
On October 16 2013 18:33 AtlasEndured wrote:
GO AVENGE

Been a fan of him ever since he went on a rampage killing oGs Terrans in GSTL :D

That was TREME :D Avenge brought the soul train to GSTL though
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 16 2013 15:05 GMT
#483
Wow I slept through this but literally every matchup went the opposite way I wanted it to T_T

Avenge, Dream, DRG
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 16 2013 15:07 GMT
#484
On October 16 2013 23:56 catplanetcatplanet wrote:
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On October 16 2013 18:33 AtlasEndured wrote:
GO AVENGE

Been a fan of him ever since he went on a rampage killing oGs Terrans in GSTL :D

That was TREME :D Avenge brought the soul train to GSTL though

Yeah Avenge was the other player who cleverly used Zenex in his name. Old ID was ZenexPlosion
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 16 2013 16:06 GMT
#485
Disappointed in Dream but I figured Keen would win since Dream's TvT has always been relatively weak. 3/4 not sure why I'm still betting on DRG >.<
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Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
October 16 2013 16:25 GMT
#486
Aw, Dream didn't make it.

sOs did though! =D
Teams: IM, Jin Air, Invictus || Players: Maru, GuMiho, INnoVation, Ryung, sOs, Squirtle, NaNiwa, Has, Zoun, Life, Rogue, Dark
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
October 16 2013 17:39 GMT
#487
So the winners go to Code S after all? I'm confused quite a bit.
Michael Probu
illidanx
Profile Joined November 2011
United States973 Posts
October 16 2013 18:26 GMT
#488
I'm happy, all 3 kespa players won.
Die-hard KeSPA fan
AlgeriaT
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2197 Posts
October 16 2013 20:59 GMT
#489
So fucking happy about Fanta winning today. Ahhhh...after Scarlett's loss earlier, at least this
CORN GIRL + Flash + FanTaSy + CholeraSC + iNcontroL 4 eva <3
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