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juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
October 16 2013 11:58 GMT
#461
On October 16 2013 20:56 SoFrOsTy wrote:
LOL Terran imba? Really guys? The zerg never injects, had thousands of minerals and gas......

that was a joke ok, but gotta admit sleep had some sick moves too. The macro was terrible yeah.
Michael Probu
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 12:00:19
October 16 2013 11:59 GMT
#462
Not the best micro from both players, neither macro concerning sleep. It was fun to watch nonetheless but I don't see fantasy making it far against a top zerg.

edit: sleep kept sending banelings blobs offcreeps trading 10+ banelings for 5 marines all game, his muta control kept him into the game but his ground army control...
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
October 16 2013 11:59 GMT
#463
On October 16 2013 20:58 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 20:52 Pandemona wrote:
On October 16 2013 20:50 juvenal wrote:
Sorry guys I had no clue, terran imba.


They are not that imba, if this was 2-2 upgrades vs 2-2 or even 3-3 vs the 3-3 Zerg wins. But being ahead 1-1 is huge in this match up

And Terran will be ahead every time, because Zerg can't continue from 2-2 directly to 3-3 like Terran can.


Sen would like to have a word with you. He managed to do that just fine last night against Taeja of all ppl
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
October 16 2013 12:00 GMT
#464
On October 16 2013 20:58 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 20:52 Pandemona wrote:
On October 16 2013 20:50 juvenal wrote:
Sorry guys I had no clue, terran imba.


They are not that imba, if this was 2-2 upgrades vs 2-2 or even 3-3 vs the 3-3 Zerg wins. But being ahead 1-1 is huge in this match up

And Terran will be ahead every time, because Zerg can't continue from 2-2 directly to 3-3 like Terran can.

If only 3-3 vs 2-2 was just one factor among others to determine who will come out ahead of a fight.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
October 16 2013 12:00 GMT
#465
fantasy is lucky sleep has awful macro, but still, one of the most fun tvz's i've seen for some time.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 16 2013 12:00 GMT
#466
On October 16 2013 20:58 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 20:52 Pandemona wrote:
On October 16 2013 20:50 juvenal wrote:
Sorry guys I had no clue, terran imba.


They are not that imba, if this was 2-2 upgrades vs 2-2 or even 3-3 vs the 3-3 Zerg wins. But being ahead 1-1 is huge in this match up

And Terran will be ahead every time, because Zerg can't continue from 2-2 directly to 3-3 like Terran can.


Yes but Zerg don't fail to tech beyond Lair every game like Sleep does lol. 3-3 vs 2-2 is only around for less than 5minutes normally and then it is down to zerg for failing to get to 3-3 quick enough. But 3-3 vs 2-2 with no sign of an infestor pit let alone hive is a free win for Terran in a decent match in terms of skill like that bo3 was
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
October 16 2013 12:00 GMT
#467
On October 16 2013 20:58 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 20:52 Pandemona wrote:
On October 16 2013 20:50 juvenal wrote:
Sorry guys I had no clue, terran imba.


They are not that imba, if this was 2-2 upgrades vs 2-2 or even 3-3 vs the 3-3 Zerg wins. But being ahead 1-1 is huge in this match up

And Terran will be ahead every time, because Zerg can't continue from 2-2 directly to 3-3 like Terran can.

-.- so what. Terran buildings can float and zerg can't. Protoss get their upgrades faster than either. The races are different, what matters is it balances out in the end.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
October 16 2013 12:01 GMT
#468
On October 16 2013 20:59 Fjodorov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 20:58 sitromit wrote:
On October 16 2013 20:52 Pandemona wrote:
On October 16 2013 20:50 juvenal wrote:
Sorry guys I had no clue, terran imba.


They are not that imba, if this was 2-2 upgrades vs 2-2 or even 3-3 vs the 3-3 Zerg wins. But being ahead 1-1 is huge in this match up

And Terran will be ahead every time, because Zerg can't continue from 2-2 directly to 3-3 like Terran can.


Sen would like to have a word with you. He managed to do that just fine last night against Taeja of all ppl

And lost, against a Taeja who was ill according to his manager.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
October 16 2013 12:01 GMT
#469
I think this game was a bit frustrating to watch because you know that better players would not make constant control errors, but from another point of view this was still quite exciting. Fantasy ended up winning because he played better, Sleep was punished for his bad macro and so on. I think if the game was more mechanically difficult that we would see more games like these.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
October 16 2013 12:02 GMT
#470
On October 16 2013 20:57 samurai80 wrote:
Awesome to see Fantasy win but kinda sloppy macro on both sides.

agreed. A very entertaining game that featured several battles that didn't decide the game. Unfortunately not the highest level of macro by either player.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12482 Posts
October 16 2013 12:02 GMT
#471
On October 16 2013 20:58 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 20:56 ETisME wrote:
LOL build mines and hope it gets a nice hit

So this is your summary of the game?

uhhhh nope, I am saying he just build tonnes of mines and while may be 30 of them didn't get a nice hit, those two hits alone sealed the game and I don't even know if that was intended which is the funny part lol
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
October 16 2013 12:03 GMT
#472
On October 16 2013 21:02 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 20:58 TheDwf wrote:
On October 16 2013 20:56 ETisME wrote:
LOL build mines and hope it gets a nice hit

So this is your summary of the game?

uhhhh nope, I am saying he just build tonnes of mines and while may be 30 of them didn't get a nice hit, those two hits alone sealed the game and I don't even know if that was intended which is the funny part lol

Sleep's terribad macro sealed the game more than any mine could.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 12:04:27
October 16 2013 12:04 GMT
#473
On October 16 2013 21:02 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 20:58 TheDwf wrote:
On October 16 2013 20:56 ETisME wrote:
LOL build mines and hope it gets a nice hit

So this is your summary of the game?

uhhhh nope, I am saying he just build tonnes of mines and while may be 30 of them didn't get a nice hit, those two hits alone sealed the game and I don't even know if that was intended which is the funny part lol


No one mine hit ( or two) sealed that game.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
October 16 2013 12:07 GMT
#474
On October 16 2013 20:58 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 20:52 Pandemona wrote:
On October 16 2013 20:50 juvenal wrote:
Sorry guys I had no clue, terran imba.


They are not that imba, if this was 2-2 upgrades vs 2-2 or even 3-3 vs the 3-3 Zerg wins. But being ahead 1-1 is huge in this match up

And Terran will be ahead every time, because Zerg can't continue from 2-2 directly to 3-3 like Terran can.


Just like Zerg is always ahead of terran with 2-2 because terran needs to invest more useless tech into 2-2. Oh, wait...
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
oriontr
Profile Joined July 2013
Turkey120 Posts
October 16 2013 12:09 GMT
#475
why no ghost. at mid game fantasy has a strong economy and enough units. he can add a few ghosts his army. sniping observers can make mutas open target against mines. also ghosts good against banelings i think....
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
October 16 2013 12:12 GMT
#476
On October 16 2013 21:09 oriontr wrote:
why no ghost. at mid game fantasy has a strong economy and enough units. he can add a few ghosts his army. sniping observers can make mutas open target against mines. also ghosts good against banelings i think....

Overseers are not Psionic, and Ghosts would be way too expensive anyway.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12482 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 12:29:05
October 16 2013 12:27 GMT
#477
On October 16 2013 21:04 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 21:02 ETisME wrote:
On October 16 2013 20:58 TheDwf wrote:
On October 16 2013 20:56 ETisME wrote:
LOL build mines and hope it gets a nice hit

So this is your summary of the game?

uhhhh nope, I am saying he just build tonnes of mines and while may be 30 of them didn't get a nice hit, those two hits alone sealed the game and I don't even know if that was intended which is the funny part lol


No one mine hit ( or two) sealed that game.

One mine killed around 10 banelings when he sent off for harassing.
the final shot killed around 20 banelings or so.

Even if Sleep macro was horrible, how am I supposed to appreciate fantasy skill in placing those widow mines there?
what a genius to put mines into the 4th?

or should i say to sleep, tough luck, you need overseer for every run bys and hope it doesn't get shut down even if terran wasn't looking there?
Or tough luck, there are more mines there but you can't see it because overseer wasn't near by and it was either you go in after bait some mine shots and hope there are no more mines?
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
October 16 2013 12:37 GMT
#478
On October 16 2013 20:50 juvenal wrote:
Sorry guys I had no clue, terran imba.

User was warned for this post

that was ironic, I'm terran lol
Michael Probu
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
October 16 2013 12:39 GMT
#479
On October 16 2013 21:27 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 21:04 AxionSteel wrote:
On October 16 2013 21:02 ETisME wrote:
On October 16 2013 20:58 TheDwf wrote:
On October 16 2013 20:56 ETisME wrote:
LOL build mines and hope it gets a nice hit

So this is your summary of the game?

uhhhh nope, I am saying he just build tonnes of mines and while may be 30 of them didn't get a nice hit, those two hits alone sealed the game and I don't even know if that was intended which is the funny part lol


No one mine hit ( or two) sealed that game.

One mine killed around 10 banelings when he sent off for harassing.
the final shot killed around 20 banelings or so.

Even if Sleep macro was horrible, how am I supposed to appreciate fantasy skill in placing those widow mines there?
what a genius to put mines into the 4th?

or should i say to sleep, tough luck, you need overseer for every run bys and hope it doesn't get shut down even if terran wasn't looking there?
Or tough luck, there are more mines there but you can't see it because overseer wasn't near by and it was either you go in after bait some mine shots and hope there are no more mines?


First of all, Fantasy WAS looking there. He lifted the OC at the last moment and ran the scv's away. He probably also targeted the bane group because it was perfectly centered, something that would not have happened manually.

Secondly, Sleep messed up royally by a) not having detection, b) not splitting the banes in any way.

I always thought that using banes to snipe an expansion is a terrible mechanic because for a set cost you eliminate something crucial (a base) in a very short amount of time, unless the terran has defences ready. As soon as the Z has has an X amount of minerals and gas, the base is forfeit. And that's not good entertaining harassment.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
October 16 2013 12:39 GMT
#480
On October 16 2013 21:37 juvenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 20:50 juvenal wrote:
Sorry guys I had no clue, terran imba.

User was warned for this post

that was ironic, I'm terran lol


Tough luck, someone misfired. But it's only a warning, and you're unlikely to keep balance whining in LRs, are you
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