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On October 16 2013 20:56 SoFrOsTy wrote: LOL Terran imba? Really guys? The zerg never injects, had thousands of minerals and gas...... that was a joke ok, but gotta admit sleep had some sick moves too. The macro was terrible yeah.
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Not the best micro from both players, neither macro concerning sleep. It was fun to watch nonetheless but I don't see fantasy making it far against a top zerg.
edit: sleep kept sending banelings blobs offcreeps trading 10+ banelings for 5 marines all game, his muta control kept him into the game but his ground army control...
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On October 16 2013 20:58 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2013 20:52 Pandemona wrote:On October 16 2013 20:50 juvenal wrote: Sorry guys I had no clue, terran imba. They are not that imba, if this was 2-2 upgrades vs 2-2 or even 3-3 vs the 3-3 Zerg wins. But being ahead 1-1 is huge in this match up And Terran will be ahead every time, because Zerg can't continue from 2-2 directly to 3-3 like Terran can.
Sen would like to have a word with you. He managed to do that just fine last night against Taeja of all ppl
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On October 16 2013 20:58 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2013 20:52 Pandemona wrote:On October 16 2013 20:50 juvenal wrote: Sorry guys I had no clue, terran imba. They are not that imba, if this was 2-2 upgrades vs 2-2 or even 3-3 vs the 3-3 Zerg wins. But being ahead 1-1 is huge in this match up And Terran will be ahead every time, because Zerg can't continue from 2-2 directly to 3-3 like Terran can. If only 3-3 vs 2-2 was just one factor among others to determine who will come out ahead of a fight.
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fantasy is lucky sleep has awful macro, but still, one of the most fun tvz's i've seen for some time.
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On October 16 2013 20:58 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2013 20:52 Pandemona wrote:On October 16 2013 20:50 juvenal wrote: Sorry guys I had no clue, terran imba. They are not that imba, if this was 2-2 upgrades vs 2-2 or even 3-3 vs the 3-3 Zerg wins. But being ahead 1-1 is huge in this match up And Terran will be ahead every time, because Zerg can't continue from 2-2 directly to 3-3 like Terran can.
Yes but Zerg don't fail to tech beyond Lair every game like Sleep does lol. 3-3 vs 2-2 is only around for less than 5minutes normally and then it is down to zerg for failing to get to 3-3 quick enough. But 3-3 vs 2-2 with no sign of an infestor pit let alone hive is a free win for Terran in a decent match in terms of skill like that bo3 was
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On October 16 2013 20:58 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2013 20:52 Pandemona wrote:On October 16 2013 20:50 juvenal wrote: Sorry guys I had no clue, terran imba. They are not that imba, if this was 2-2 upgrades vs 2-2 or even 3-3 vs the 3-3 Zerg wins. But being ahead 1-1 is huge in this match up And Terran will be ahead every time, because Zerg can't continue from 2-2 directly to 3-3 like Terran can. -.- so what. Terran buildings can float and zerg can't. Protoss get their upgrades faster than either. The races are different, what matters is it balances out in the end.
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On October 16 2013 20:59 Fjodorov wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2013 20:58 sitromit wrote:On October 16 2013 20:52 Pandemona wrote:On October 16 2013 20:50 juvenal wrote: Sorry guys I had no clue, terran imba. They are not that imba, if this was 2-2 upgrades vs 2-2 or even 3-3 vs the 3-3 Zerg wins. But being ahead 1-1 is huge in this match up And Terran will be ahead every time, because Zerg can't continue from 2-2 directly to 3-3 like Terran can. Sen would like to have a word with you. He managed to do that just fine last night against Taeja of all ppl And lost, against a Taeja who was ill according to his manager.
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I think this game was a bit frustrating to watch because you know that better players would not make constant control errors, but from another point of view this was still quite exciting. Fantasy ended up winning because he played better, Sleep was punished for his bad macro and so on. I think if the game was more mechanically difficult that we would see more games like these.
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On October 16 2013 20:57 samurai80 wrote: Awesome to see Fantasy win but kinda sloppy macro on both sides. agreed. A very entertaining game that featured several battles that didn't decide the game. Unfortunately not the highest level of macro by either player.
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On October 16 2013 20:58 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2013 20:56 ETisME wrote: LOL build mines and hope it gets a nice hit So this is your summary of the game? uhhhh nope, I am saying he just build tonnes of mines and while may be 30 of them didn't get a nice hit, those two hits alone sealed the game and I don't even know if that was intended which is the funny part lol
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On October 16 2013 21:02 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2013 20:58 TheDwf wrote:On October 16 2013 20:56 ETisME wrote: LOL build mines and hope it gets a nice hit So this is your summary of the game? uhhhh nope, I am saying he just build tonnes of mines and while may be 30 of them didn't get a nice hit, those two hits alone sealed the game and I don't even know if that was intended which is the funny part lol Sleep's terribad macro sealed the game more than any mine could.
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On October 16 2013 21:02 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2013 20:58 TheDwf wrote:On October 16 2013 20:56 ETisME wrote: LOL build mines and hope it gets a nice hit So this is your summary of the game? uhhhh nope, I am saying he just build tonnes of mines and while may be 30 of them didn't get a nice hit, those two hits alone sealed the game and I don't even know if that was intended which is the funny part lol
No one mine hit ( or two) sealed that game.
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On October 16 2013 20:58 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2013 20:52 Pandemona wrote:On October 16 2013 20:50 juvenal wrote: Sorry guys I had no clue, terran imba. They are not that imba, if this was 2-2 upgrades vs 2-2 or even 3-3 vs the 3-3 Zerg wins. But being ahead 1-1 is huge in this match up And Terran will be ahead every time, because Zerg can't continue from 2-2 directly to 3-3 like Terran can.
Just like Zerg is always ahead of terran with 2-2 because terran needs to invest more useless tech into 2-2. Oh, wait...
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why no ghost. at mid game fantasy has a strong economy and enough units. he can add a few ghosts his army. sniping observers can make mutas open target against mines. also ghosts good against banelings i think....
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On October 16 2013 21:09 oriontr wrote: why no ghost. at mid game fantasy has a strong economy and enough units. he can add a few ghosts his army. sniping observers can make mutas open target against mines. also ghosts good against banelings i think.... Overseers are not Psionic, and Ghosts would be way too expensive anyway.
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On October 16 2013 21:04 AxionSteel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2013 21:02 ETisME wrote:On October 16 2013 20:58 TheDwf wrote:On October 16 2013 20:56 ETisME wrote: LOL build mines and hope it gets a nice hit So this is your summary of the game? uhhhh nope, I am saying he just build tonnes of mines and while may be 30 of them didn't get a nice hit, those two hits alone sealed the game and I don't even know if that was intended which is the funny part lol No one mine hit ( or two) sealed that game. One mine killed around 10 banelings when he sent off for harassing. the final shot killed around 20 banelings or so.
Even if Sleep macro was horrible, how am I supposed to appreciate fantasy skill in placing those widow mines there? what a genius to put mines into the 4th?
or should i say to sleep, tough luck, you need overseer for every run bys and hope it doesn't get shut down even if terran wasn't looking there? Or tough luck, there are more mines there but you can't see it because overseer wasn't near by and it was either you go in after bait some mine shots and hope there are no more mines?
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On October 16 2013 20:50 juvenal wrote: Sorry guys I had no clue, terran imba.
User was warned for this post that was ironic, I'm terran lol
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On October 16 2013 21:27 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2013 21:04 AxionSteel wrote:On October 16 2013 21:02 ETisME wrote:On October 16 2013 20:58 TheDwf wrote:On October 16 2013 20:56 ETisME wrote: LOL build mines and hope it gets a nice hit So this is your summary of the game? uhhhh nope, I am saying he just build tonnes of mines and while may be 30 of them didn't get a nice hit, those two hits alone sealed the game and I don't even know if that was intended which is the funny part lol No one mine hit ( or two) sealed that game. One mine killed around 10 banelings when he sent off for harassing. the final shot killed around 20 banelings or so. Even if Sleep macro was horrible, how am I supposed to appreciate fantasy skill in placing those widow mines there? what a genius to put mines into the 4th? or should i say to sleep, tough luck, you need overseer for every run bys and hope it doesn't get shut down even if terran wasn't looking there? Or tough luck, there are more mines there but you can't see it because overseer wasn't near by and it was either you go in after bait some mine shots and hope there are no more mines?
First of all, Fantasy WAS looking there. He lifted the OC at the last moment and ran the scv's away. He probably also targeted the bane group because it was perfectly centered, something that would not have happened manually.
Secondly, Sleep messed up royally by a) not having detection, b) not splitting the banes in any way.
I always thought that using banes to snipe an expansion is a terrible mechanic because for a set cost you eliminate something crucial (a base) in a very short amount of time, unless the terran has defences ready. As soon as the Z has has an X amount of minerals and gas, the base is forfeit. And that's not good entertaining harassment.
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On October 16 2013 21:37 juvenal wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2013 20:50 juvenal wrote: Sorry guys I had no clue, terran imba.
User was warned for this post that was ironic, I'm terran lol
Tough luck, someone misfired. But it's only a warning, and you're unlikely to keep balance whining in LRs, are you
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