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Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
October 13 2013 18:17 GMT
#1821
On October 14 2013 03:16 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2013 03:14 Nauseam wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:10 goody153 wrote:
although life never lost a grand finals .. naniwa is like the Mvp of europe ... you can never count him out .. he is always a championship contender no matter how long the time is

Mvp of Europe? There is no Mvp of europe, there is a strange protoss, that can not play good macro games in a game, that brought good macro games.

Your Protoss whine in this thread is reaching obnoxious levels.

Didn't you know that Protoss is massively overpowered and the only reason that Protoss players don't stomp every tournament is because they're not as good/innovative/capable as Zerg and Terran players..?

:3


Offtopic - your quote so is amazingly relevant for so many different games, it's just ridiculous.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
odE
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland177 Posts
October 13 2013 18:18 GMT
#1822
Help for lag here:

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1o5n68/how_to_watch_twitch_through_vlc/
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 13 2013 18:18 GMT
#1823
On October 14 2013 03:17 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2013 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:10 goody153 wrote:
although life never lost a grand finals .. naniwa is like the Mvp of europe ... you can never count him out .. he is always a championship contender no matter how long the time is

Mvp of Europe? There is no Mvp of europe, there is a strange protoss, that can not play good macro games in a game, that brought good macro games.

geez i was just comparing the way they win 1st places ones in a while .. u dont have to be so mean

Naniwa won only 1 MLG, didn't he :D?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44309 Posts
October 13 2013 18:19 GMT
#1824
On October 14 2013 03:18 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2013 03:17 goody153 wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:10 goody153 wrote:
although life never lost a grand finals .. naniwa is like the Mvp of europe ... you can never count him out .. he is always a championship contender no matter how long the time is

Mvp of Europe? There is no Mvp of europe, there is a strange protoss, that can not play good macro games in a game, that brought good macro games.

geez i was just comparing the way they win 1st places ones in a while .. u dont have to be so mean

Naniwa won only 1 MLG, didn't he :D?

uhm yeah .. dont forget dreamhack and all other stuff ,...
this is a quote
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 18:19:42
October 13 2013 18:19 GMT
#1825
Of course it is good to learn English, stop this retarded discussion.

I guess I could only speak Swedish too, might as well unplug the internet cable right now x)
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 13 2013 18:19 GMT
#1826
On October 14 2013 03:19 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2013 03:18 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:17 goody153 wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:10 goody153 wrote:
although life never lost a grand finals .. naniwa is like the Mvp of europe ... you can never count him out .. he is always a championship contender no matter how long the time is

Mvp of Europe? There is no Mvp of europe, there is a strange protoss, that can not play good macro games in a game, that brought good macro games.

geez i was just comparing the way they win 1st places ones in a while .. u dont have to be so mean

Naniwa won only 1 MLG, didn't he :D?

uhm yeah .. dont forget dreamhack and all other stuff ,...

2nd places, eh?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
October 13 2013 18:19 GMT
#1827
--- Nuked ---
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
October 13 2013 18:19 GMT
#1828
On October 14 2013 03:18 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2013 03:17 goody153 wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:10 goody153 wrote:
although life never lost a grand finals .. naniwa is like the Mvp of europe ... you can never count him out .. he is always a championship contender no matter how long the time is

Mvp of Europe? There is no Mvp of europe, there is a strange protoss, that can not play good macro games in a game, that brought good macro games.

geez i was just comparing the way they win 1st places ones in a while .. u dont have to be so mean

Naniwa won only 1 MLG, didn't he :D?

Didn't he sweep that one? Or only drop one map to Drewbie was it?
dafunk
Profile Joined January 2009
France521 Posts
October 13 2013 18:19 GMT
#1829
So, twitch has a partnership with Microsoft and Sony for their gaming consoles when they cant even handle pc gaming...
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 13 2013 18:19 GMT
#1830
On October 14 2013 03:18 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2013 03:17 goody153 wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:10 goody153 wrote:
although life never lost a grand finals .. naniwa is like the Mvp of europe ... you can never count him out .. he is always a championship contender no matter how long the time is

Mvp of Europe? There is no Mvp of europe, there is a strange protoss, that can not play good macro games in a game, that brought good macro games.

geez i was just comparing the way they win 1st places ones in a while .. u dont have to be so mean

Naniwa won only 1 MLG, didn't he :D?

honestly, with your protoss whining in the last x posts, I'm surprised you haven't been warned or something. I didn't watch naniwa's games but he made it to the finals fair and square. Please quit whining about protoss since there is no reason to do so.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
October 13 2013 18:20 GMT
#1831
On October 14 2013 03:15 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2013 03:14 Nauseam wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:10 goody153 wrote:
although life never lost a grand finals .. naniwa is like the Mvp of europe ... you can never count him out .. he is always a championship contender no matter how long the time is

Mvp of Europe? There is no Mvp of europe, there is a strange protoss, that can not play good macro games in a game, that brought good macro games.


Your Protoss whine in this thread is reaching obnoxious levels.

Counter example of good long macro game that involved naniwa. Or at least hilarious one.

Naniwa vs Jaedong dreamhack?
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 13 2013 18:20 GMT
#1832
On October 14 2013 03:19 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2013 03:17 Crownlol wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:16 Sated wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:14 Nauseam wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:10 goody153 wrote:
although life never lost a grand finals .. naniwa is like the Mvp of europe ... you can never count him out .. he is always a championship contender no matter how long the time is

Mvp of Europe? There is no Mvp of europe, there is a strange protoss, that can not play good macro games in a game, that brought good macro games.

Your Protoss whine in this thread is reaching obnoxious levels.

Didn't you know that Protoss is massively overpowered and the only reason that Protoss players don't stomp every tournament is because they're not as good/innovative/capable as Zerg and Terran players..?

:3


Offtopic - your quote so is amazingly relevant for so many different games, it's just ridiculous.

Which quote..? o_O

guessing this: "I'd rather play a strategy that is worse, but that I feel confident in, than play the better strategy, not really feeling it and not being 100% behind it"
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 13 2013 18:20 GMT
#1833
On October 14 2013 03:19 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2013 03:18 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:17 goody153 wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:10 goody153 wrote:
although life never lost a grand finals .. naniwa is like the Mvp of europe ... you can never count him out .. he is always a championship contender no matter how long the time is

Mvp of Europe? There is no Mvp of europe, there is a strange protoss, that can not play good macro games in a game, that brought good macro games.

geez i was just comparing the way they win 1st places ones in a while .. u dont have to be so mean

Naniwa won only 1 MLG, didn't he :D?

Didn't he sweep that one? Or only drop one map to Drewbie was it?

He didn't drop a map to the finals, then lost two games to Kiwikaki. My first SC2 tourney watched by the way. When I fell in love with Select.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 13 2013 18:20 GMT
#1834
On October 14 2013 03:19 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2013 03:18 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:17 goody153 wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:10 goody153 wrote:
although life never lost a grand finals .. naniwa is like the Mvp of europe ... you can never count him out .. he is always a championship contender no matter how long the time is

Mvp of Europe? There is no Mvp of europe, there is a strange protoss, that can not play good macro games in a game, that brought good macro games.

geez i was just comparing the way they win 1st places ones in a while .. u dont have to be so mean

Naniwa won only 1 MLG, didn't he :D?

Didn't he sweep that one? Or only drop one map to Drewbie was it?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Dallas
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
October 13 2013 18:20 GMT
#1835
--- Nuked ---
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8160 Posts
October 13 2013 18:20 GMT
#1836
I hope Life smashes Naniwa 4-0
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12891 Posts
October 13 2013 18:20 GMT
#1837
On October 14 2013 03:16 Heartland wrote:
Ehm, a ton of Koreans are quite obviously learning more and more english the more tournaments they go to. Just look at Life who is tweeting in (bad) english now, or Stardust, or Leenock's improvements.

No.
English is mandatory in S.Korea education as far as I know.

Most of the asians can write simple to advanced English, it is only speaking and listening that we aren't good at.

I honestly don't mind koreans not speaking in English, giving a more accurate statement is more important for me
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 13 2013 18:20 GMT
#1838
On October 14 2013 03:16 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2013 03:14 Nauseam wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:10 goody153 wrote:
although life never lost a grand finals .. naniwa is like the Mvp of europe ... you can never count him out .. he is always a championship contender no matter how long the time is

Mvp of Europe? There is no Mvp of europe, there is a strange protoss, that can not play good macro games in a game, that brought good macro games.

Your Protoss whine in this thread is reaching obnoxious levels.

Didn't you know that Protoss is massively overpowered and the only reason that Protoss players don't stomp every tournament is because they're not as good/innovative/capable as Zerg and Terran players..?

:3


Everyone seems to agree that in BW the races were balanced, but even then there were more Terran and Zerg Champions.

Now while in SC2, Protoss doesn't work at all like BW, but the same logic applies. Even if the game is balanced, that doesn't mean the races will have an even number of championships. Unless you were able to run an infinite amount of trials, this would never happen.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 18:21:26
October 13 2013 18:21 GMT
#1839
On October 14 2013 03:18 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2013 03:17 goody153 wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 14 2013 03:10 goody153 wrote:
although life never lost a grand finals .. naniwa is like the Mvp of europe ... you can never count him out .. he is always a championship contender no matter how long the time is

Mvp of Europe? There is no Mvp of europe, there is a strange protoss, that can not play good macro games in a game, that brought good macro games.

geez i was just comparing the way they win 1st places ones in a while .. u dont have to be so mean

Naniwa won only 1 MLG, didn't he :D?

Lots of top 4's and stuff. Plus best foreigner showing in code S. And don't even say, "But Jinro..."
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
October 13 2013 18:21 GMT
#1840
On October 14 2013 03:20 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2013 03:16 Heartland wrote:
Ehm, a ton of Koreans are quite obviously learning more and more english the more tournaments they go to. Just look at Life who is tweeting in (bad) english now, or Stardust, or Leenock's improvements.

No.
English is mandatory in S.Korea education as far as I know.

Most of the asians can write simple to advanced English, it is only speaking and listening that we aren't good at.

I honestly don't mind koreans not speaking in English, giving a more accurate statement is more important for me


I don't see how that contradicts what I said?
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