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LOL MC is a fucking G man. i hope we get an interview with him.
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Belgica34432 Posts
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2?★★★★- Highly recommended game (4) 50% ★★★- Good game (2) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 13% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 13% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?★★★- Good game (5) 56% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 22% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 11% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 11% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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MC so fucking clutch, doesn't warp in anything at home to deal with the drop, just kills Kas
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Is there another stream ? Because it's unwatchable.. Any resolution...
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Canada16217 Posts
Good games and congrats to MC!
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Very convincing from MC, he is looking in good shape to go deep this season
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Damn, MC murdered this group
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If Kas doesn't make it out of the group, I will be really sad.
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Yeah! MC go to final and take that MONEY!
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are there no skype interviews anymore this season? this is the first group i'm actually watching.
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On September 19 2013 03:07 FFW_Rude wrote:
Is there another stream ? Because it's unwatchable.. Any resolution...
Stream: WCS Europe
Stream: WCS Europe RU
Stream: WCS Europe DE
Stream: WCS Europe FR
Stream: WCS Europe PL
Stream: WCS Europe IT
Stream: WCS Europe ES
You can pick anyone why like, as long as it's on twitch
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On September 19 2013 03:05 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 03:01 NarutO wrote:On September 19 2013 02:59 Plansix wrote:On September 19 2013 02:57 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 19 2013 02:57 Plansix wrote:On September 19 2013 02:53 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 19 2013 02:52 TheDwf wrote:On September 19 2013 02:50 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 19 2013 02:48 TheDwf wrote:On September 19 2013 02:42 DarkLordOlli wrote:
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Taeja's TvP has been amazing ever since WoL. And his style hasn't changed at all. It's still a heavy aggressive midgame not necessarily dropping all over the place but constantly threatening it. And, this is the most important thing probably, he scans observers. You can hurt protoss if you don't allow them to see everything, it keeps their robo busy and lategame you win the game with Ghost/Viking because hey, he doesn't see half your army.
Taeja just plays straight up TvP and wins. He's done so ever since. Losing that total of 3 maps you stated doesn't mean that his TvP isn't fucking amazing.
It's got nothing to do with saving TvP. TvP doesn't need to be saved, terrans just need to learn how to play a proper macro game vs protoss. Please go ahead and teach us the way, I'm sure you know so much better than most Code S Terrans. (; Watch Taeja and play like him. There's about a year worth of VODs out there with him playing the same style and trashing protoss with it. You forgot "just" in your first sentence, I am disappointed. Who said it was easy? It's hard as shit. But it's definitely not impossible like a lot of terran players claim. And if you honestly think it's too hard for Code S players to copy then I don't know what to tell you. On September 19 2013 02:53 geokilla wrote:On September 19 2013 02:50 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 19 2013 02:48 TheDwf wrote:On September 19 2013 02:42 DarkLordOlli wrote:
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Taeja's TvP has been amazing ever since WoL. And his style hasn't changed at all. It's still a heavy aggressive midgame not necessarily dropping all over the place but constantly threatening it. And, this is the most important thing probably, he scans observers. You can hurt protoss if you don't allow them to see everything, it keeps their robo busy and lategame you win the game with Ghost/Viking because hey, he doesn't see half your army.
Taeja just plays straight up TvP and wins. He's done so ever since. Losing that total of 3 maps you stated doesn't mean that his TvP isn't fucking amazing.
It's got nothing to do with saving TvP. TvP doesn't need to be saved, terrans just need to learn how to play a proper macro game vs protoss. Please go ahead and teach us the way, I'm sure you know so much better than most Code S Terrans. (; Watch Taeja and play like him. There's about a year worth of VODs out there with him playing the same style and trashing protoss with it. If we can all play like Taeja, then we won't be watching WCS. We'd be playing in the WCS. I don't see the point of your argument. He is under the impression that he needs to play as well as taeja, rather than learn from his play style and try to play to that style. This style is well known to every macro terran in EU GM, you need to play as well as TaeJa to pull it off consistently though/ I doubt that, your opponents are just as terrible as you are when you are on the ladder, so I don't think you need to be the level of a Code S terran to pull it off against them. That is the point. While you will get ultimatively more often punished for greed compared to TaeJa, in addition while Terran scales insanely with skill, Protoss does not. It takes unbelievably more effort to be as good as TaeJa and to control ghosts as well and spot on in addition to all the smaller parts compared to Protoss who can rely on good builds. The engagements will favor Protoss as well, as the engagement for Protoss is usually easier compared to Terran. While this is no issue or less of an issue of you reach top level, it is a huge issue on the lower levels of the top level. Ok, now I am just hearing excuses as to why TeaJa is winning and why you can't. If your excuse is that you are limited by your race, switch and become a champion. Or say in your current race and have a built in excuse for not winning.
We are winning. We're just pulling SCVs and ending it early rather than go into an extremely fragile lategame that requires you to get just as far ahead and not lose a single engagement.
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On September 19 2013 03:05 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 03:01 NarutO wrote:On September 19 2013 02:59 Plansix wrote:On September 19 2013 02:57 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 19 2013 02:57 Plansix wrote:On September 19 2013 02:53 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 19 2013 02:52 TheDwf wrote:On September 19 2013 02:50 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 19 2013 02:48 TheDwf wrote:On September 19 2013 02:42 DarkLordOlli wrote:
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Taeja's TvP has been amazing ever since WoL. And his style hasn't changed at all. It's still a heavy aggressive midgame not necessarily dropping all over the place but constantly threatening it. And, this is the most important thing probably, he scans observers. You can hurt protoss if you don't allow them to see everything, it keeps their robo busy and lategame you win the game with Ghost/Viking because hey, he doesn't see half your army.
Taeja just plays straight up TvP and wins. He's done so ever since. Losing that total of 3 maps you stated doesn't mean that his TvP isn't fucking amazing.
It's got nothing to do with saving TvP. TvP doesn't need to be saved, terrans just need to learn how to play a proper macro game vs protoss. Please go ahead and teach us the way, I'm sure you know so much better than most Code S Terrans. (; Watch Taeja and play like him. There's about a year worth of VODs out there with him playing the same style and trashing protoss with it. You forgot "just" in your first sentence, I am disappointed. Who said it was easy? It's hard as shit. But it's definitely not impossible like a lot of terran players claim. And if you honestly think it's too hard for Code S players to copy then I don't know what to tell you. On September 19 2013 02:53 geokilla wrote:On September 19 2013 02:50 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 19 2013 02:48 TheDwf wrote:On September 19 2013 02:42 DarkLordOlli wrote:
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Taeja's TvP has been amazing ever since WoL. And his style hasn't changed at all. It's still a heavy aggressive midgame not necessarily dropping all over the place but constantly threatening it. And, this is the most important thing probably, he scans observers. You can hurt protoss if you don't allow them to see everything, it keeps their robo busy and lategame you win the game with Ghost/Viking because hey, he doesn't see half your army.
Taeja just plays straight up TvP and wins. He's done so ever since. Losing that total of 3 maps you stated doesn't mean that his TvP isn't fucking amazing.
It's got nothing to do with saving TvP. TvP doesn't need to be saved, terrans just need to learn how to play a proper macro game vs protoss. Please go ahead and teach us the way, I'm sure you know so much better than most Code S Terrans. (; Watch Taeja and play like him. There's about a year worth of VODs out there with him playing the same style and trashing protoss with it. If we can all play like Taeja, then we won't be watching WCS. We'd be playing in the WCS. I don't see the point of your argument. He is under the impression that he needs to play as well as taeja, rather than learn from his play style and try to play to that style. This style is well known to every macro terran in EU GM, you need to play as well as TaeJa to pull it off consistently though/ I doubt that, your opponents are just as terrible as you are when you are on the ladder, so I don't think you need to be the level of a Code S terran to pull it off against them. That is the point. While you will get ultimatively more often punished for greed compared to TaeJa, in addition while Terran scales insanely with skill, Protoss does not. It takes unbelievably more effort to be as good as TaeJa and to control ghosts as well and spot on in addition to all the smaller parts compared to Protoss who can rely on good builds. The engagements will favor Protoss as well, as the engagement for Protoss is usually easier compared to Terran. While this is no issue or less of an issue of you reach top level, it is a huge issue on the lower levels of the top level. Ok, now I am just hearing excuses as to why TeaJa is winning and why you can't. If your excuse is that you are limited by your race, switch and become a champion. Or say in your current race and have a built in excuse for not winning.
No, you are being ignorant. It takes more effort to control the Terran army compared to the Protoss army. While this in itself is no issue for a progamer, the issue of TvP lies within its early game. Personally I never did complain as I was very good in Ghost/Viking (thanks for the insult btw) but most of the time you don't get to the stage of a lot of ghost/viking, because you simply have weaker midgame compared to WoL, Protoss has stronger midgame and earlier lategame and often time will end up killing you before ghost/viking. Thats exactly one of the - if not the main reason that we see SCV pulls.
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On September 19 2013 03:09 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 03:07 FFW_Rude wrote:
Is there another stream ? Because it's unwatchable.. Any resolution... Stream: WCS Europe Stream: WCS Europe RU Stream: WCS Europe DE Stream: WCS Europe FR Stream: WCS Europe PL Stream: WCS Europe IT Stream: WCS Europe ES You can pick anyone why like, as long as it's on twitch
Well i don't want to watch it in deutch or russian...
So there is no other english streams ? Just the twitch laggy as hell stream ?
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On September 19 2013 03:10 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 03:05 Plansix wrote:On September 19 2013 03:01 NarutO wrote:On September 19 2013 02:59 Plansix wrote:On September 19 2013 02:57 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 19 2013 02:57 Plansix wrote:On September 19 2013 02:53 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 19 2013 02:52 TheDwf wrote:On September 19 2013 02:50 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 19 2013 02:48 TheDwf wrote:
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Please go ahead and teach us the way, I'm sure you know so much better than most Code S Terrans. (; Watch Taeja and play like him. There's about a year worth of VODs out there with him playing the same style and trashing protoss with it. You forgot "just" in your first sentence, I am disappointed. Who said it was easy? It's hard as shit. But it's definitely not impossible like a lot of terran players claim. And if you honestly think it's too hard for Code S players to copy then I don't know what to tell you. On September 19 2013 02:53 geokilla wrote:On September 19 2013 02:50 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 19 2013 02:48 TheDwf wrote:
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Please go ahead and teach us the way, I'm sure you know so much better than most Code S Terrans. (; Watch Taeja and play like him. There's about a year worth of VODs out there with him playing the same style and trashing protoss with it. If we can all play like Taeja, then we won't be watching WCS. We'd be playing in the WCS. I don't see the point of your argument. He is under the impression that he needs to play as well as taeja, rather than learn from his play style and try to play to that style. This style is well known to every macro terran in EU GM, you need to play as well as TaeJa to pull it off consistently though/ I doubt that, your opponents are just as terrible as you are when you are on the ladder, so I don't think you need to be the level of a Code S terran to pull it off against them. That is the point. While you will get ultimatively more often punished for greed compared to TaeJa, in addition while Terran scales insanely with skill, Protoss does not. It takes unbelievably more effort to be as good as TaeJa and to control ghosts as well and spot on in addition to all the smaller parts compared to Protoss who can rely on good builds. The engagements will favor Protoss as well, as the engagement for Protoss is usually easier compared to Terran. While this is no issue or less of an issue of you reach top level, it is a huge issue on the lower levels of the top level. Ok, now I am just hearing excuses as to why TeaJa is winning and why you can't. If your excuse is that you are limited by your race, switch and become a champion. Or say in your current race and have a built in excuse for not winning. No, you are being ignorant. It takes more effort to control the Terran army compared to the Protoss army. While this in itself is no issue for a progamer, the issue of TvP lies within its early game. Personally I never did complain as I was very good in Ghost/Viking (thanks for the insult btw) but most of the time you don't get to the stage of a lot of ghost/viking, because you simply have weaker midgame compared to WoL, Protoss has stronger midgame and earlier lategame and often time will end up killing you before ghost/viking. Thats exactly one of the - if not the main reason that we see SCV pulls.
TL going to ban you for "balance whining' even though you're a respected member of the community. Just like how they banned me because I apparently balance whined last week.
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Yeah and in other streams, we cannot see the interviews ...
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On September 19 2013 03:10 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 03:05 Plansix wrote:On September 19 2013 03:01 NarutO wrote:On September 19 2013 02:59 Plansix wrote:On September 19 2013 02:57 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 19 2013 02:57 Plansix wrote:On September 19 2013 02:53 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 19 2013 02:52 TheDwf wrote:On September 19 2013 02:50 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 19 2013 02:48 TheDwf wrote:
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Please go ahead and teach us the way, I'm sure you know so much better than most Code S Terrans. (; Watch Taeja and play like him. There's about a year worth of VODs out there with him playing the same style and trashing protoss with it. You forgot "just" in your first sentence, I am disappointed. Who said it was easy? It's hard as shit. But it's definitely not impossible like a lot of terran players claim. And if you honestly think it's too hard for Code S players to copy then I don't know what to tell you. On September 19 2013 02:53 geokilla wrote:On September 19 2013 02:50 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 19 2013 02:48 TheDwf wrote:
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Please go ahead and teach us the way, I'm sure you know so much better than most Code S Terrans. (; Watch Taeja and play like him. There's about a year worth of VODs out there with him playing the same style and trashing protoss with it. If we can all play like Taeja, then we won't be watching WCS. We'd be playing in the WCS. I don't see the point of your argument. He is under the impression that he needs to play as well as taeja, rather than learn from his play style and try to play to that style. This style is well known to every macro terran in EU GM, you need to play as well as TaeJa to pull it off consistently though/ I doubt that, your opponents are just as terrible as you are when you are on the ladder, so I don't think you need to be the level of a Code S terran to pull it off against them. That is the point. While you will get ultimatively more often punished for greed compared to TaeJa, in addition while Terran scales insanely with skill, Protoss does not. It takes unbelievably more effort to be as good as TaeJa and to control ghosts as well and spot on in addition to all the smaller parts compared to Protoss who can rely on good builds. The engagements will favor Protoss as well, as the engagement for Protoss is usually easier compared to Terran. While this is no issue or less of an issue of you reach top level, it is a huge issue on the lower levels of the top level. Ok, now I am just hearing excuses as to why TeaJa is winning and why you can't. If your excuse is that you are limited by your race, switch and become a champion. Or say in your current race and have a built in excuse for not winning. No, you are being ignorant. It takes more effort to control the Terran army compared to the Protoss army. While this in itself is no issue for a progamer, the issue of TvP lies within its early game. Personally I never did complain as I was very good in Ghost/Viking (thanks for the insult btw) but most of the time you don't get to the stage of a lot of ghost/viking, because you simply have weaker midgame compared to WoL, Protoss has stronger midgame and earlier lategame and often time will end up killing you before ghost/viking. Thats exactly one of the - if not the main reason that we see SCV pulls.
Sorry for being harsh, but I have grown tired of the mob of terrans whining about how protoss and how they have to play and claiming they need to be SO much better than the protoss to win. It gets as old as Idra whining about terran when playing zerg and claiming that terran can be SO much worse than the zerg and still winning.
Sorry for taking a dig at you and derailing the thread with balance discussions. Back to MC being a boss and the closeting thing we have to pro wrestler in SC2.
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