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On September 16 2013 05:33 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:29 Sub40APM wrote:On September 16 2013 05:28 Crot4le wrote:
The way I see it know is that TaeJa will win Dreamhack. It's not that I think he's a better player than INnoVation, in fact I think INnoVation is definitely better overall, I just think that TaeJa is better at TvT so will win against Inno. innovation is better over all? Taeja has better results vs all races. Innovation was great when hellbats were good, now that Blizz balanced them innovation dropped down. Moving on from the fact that he's currently #1 while TaeJa is #5 (a difference of 2.2k WCS points) let's analyse the match-ups. TvZ - INnoVation is better (by a country mile). TvP - INnoVation is better (only slightly though). TvT - TaeJa is better (considerably). I think the main reason people try to make out that TaeJa is better than Inno is because TaeJa is regularly beating him. But that's only because TaeJa is really strong in that match-up whilst it is INnoVation's main weakness.
Innovation hella good agaisnt other races but taejja has the edge agaisnt t
Plus it's summer
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On September 16 2013 05:34 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:33 Crot4le wrote:On September 16 2013 05:29 Sub40APM wrote:On September 16 2013 05:28 Crot4le wrote:
The way I see it know is that TaeJa will win Dreamhack. It's not that I think he's a better player than INnoVation, in fact I think INnoVation is definitely better overall, I just think that TaeJa is better at TvT so will win against Inno. innovation is better over all? Taeja has better results vs all races. Innovation was great when hellbats were good, now that Blizz balanced them innovation dropped down. Moving on from the fact that he's currently #1 while TaeJa is #5 (a difference of 2.2k WCS points) let's analyse the match-ups. TvZ - INnoVation is better (by a country mile). TvP - INnoVation is better (only slightly though). TvT - TaeJa is better (considerably). I think the main reason people try to make out that TaeJa is better than Inno is because TaeJa is regularly beating him. But that's only because TaeJa is really strong in that match-up whilst it is INnoVation's main weakness. Country mile is an exaggeration.
Maybe but only just. INnoVation is a TvZ God, whereas TaeJa is only exceptional.
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On September 16 2013 05:34 Tanzklaue wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:33 Crot4le wrote:On September 16 2013 05:29 Sub40APM wrote:On September 16 2013 05:28 Crot4le wrote:
The way I see it know is that TaeJa will win Dreamhack. It's not that I think he's a better player than INnoVation, in fact I think INnoVation is definitely better overall, I just think that TaeJa is better at TvT so will win against Inno. innovation is better over all? Taeja has better results vs all races. Innovation was great when hellbats were good, now that Blizz balanced them innovation dropped down. Moving on from the fact that he's currently #1 while TaeJa is #5 (a difference of 2.2k WCS points) let's analyse the match-ups. TvZ - INnoVation is better (by a country mile). TvP - INnoVation is better (only slightly though). TvT - TaeJa is better (considerably). I think the main reason people try to make out that TaeJa is better than Inno is because TaeJa is regularly beating him. But that's only because TaeJa is really strong in that match-up whilst it is INnoVation's main weakness. I think Taeja is better at TvP than Inno. he manhandled Rain, and sos. and taeja isn't that much worse at TvZ.
INnoVation destroyed Rain as well when Rain was playing well. Rain really fucked up against TaeJa badly. Also that series against sOs.,.. yay really. INnoVation did 4-0 vs sOs, what do you want? :D
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On September 16 2013 05:34 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:32 VisonKai wrote:On September 16 2013 05:31 Heartland wrote:
@Startale_Life 17s
Sorry my fan me very chobo This killed me. I am going to cry. Oh no, poor Life, he got top 4 and got a seed to Dreamhack Winter where the huge prize pool is at. POOR LIFE. MIGHT AS WELL RETIRE.
way overdoing it
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On September 16 2013 05:33 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:29 Sub40APM wrote:On September 16 2013 05:28 Crot4le wrote:
The way I see it know is that TaeJa will win Dreamhack. It's not that I think he's a better player than INnoVation, in fact I think INnoVation is definitely better overall, I just think that TaeJa is better at TvT so will win against Inno. innovation is better over all? Taeja has better results vs all races. Innovation was great when hellbats were good, now that Blizz balanced them innovation dropped down. Moving on from the fact that he's currently #1 while TaeJa is #5 (a difference of 2.2k WCS points) let's analyse the match-ups. TvZ - INnoVation is better (by a country mile). TvP - INnoVation is better (only slightly though). TvT - TaeJa is better (considerably). I think the main reason people try to make out that TaeJa is better than Inno is because TaeJa is regularly beating him. But that's only because TaeJa is really strong in that match-up whilst it is INnoVation's main weakness.
What are you smoking Taeja's TvP is the best in the business, a level above other terrans.
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On September 16 2013 05:34 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:32 VisonKai wrote:On September 16 2013 05:31 Heartland wrote:
@Startale_Life 17s
Sorry my fan me very chobo This killed me. I am going to cry. Oh no, poor Life, he got top 4 and got a seed to Dreamhack Winter where the huge prize pool is at. POOR LIFE. MIGHT AS WELL RETIRE.
But we want Life to win.. surely he deserves victory the most
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innovation gonna roll all over taeja
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On September 16 2013 05:35 johnnyapplec wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:33 Crot4le wrote:On September 16 2013 05:29 Sub40APM wrote:On September 16 2013 05:28 Crot4le wrote:
The way I see it know is that TaeJa will win Dreamhack. It's not that I think he's a better player than INnoVation, in fact I think INnoVation is definitely better overall, I just think that TaeJa is better at TvT so will win against Inno. innovation is better over all? Taeja has better results vs all races. Innovation was great when hellbats were good, now that Blizz balanced them innovation dropped down. Moving on from the fact that he's currently #1 while TaeJa is #5 (a difference of 2.2k WCS points) let's analyse the match-ups. TvZ - INnoVation is better (by a country mile). TvP - INnoVation is better (only slightly though). TvT - TaeJa is better (considerably). I think the main reason people try to make out that TaeJa is better than Inno is because TaeJa is regularly beating him. But that's only because TaeJa is really strong in that match-up whilst it is INnoVation's main weakness. Innovation hella good agaisnt other races but taejja has the edge agaisnt t
That's exactly what my post was saying.
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As someone who had been away from the scene for a long time, but chose to watch DH, I've gotta say: Widow mines really ruin TvZ. I'm a Protoss player and always enjoyed TvZ, but its just not the same anymore. Plain and simply bad for the game.
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On September 16 2013 05:34 ntssauce wrote:
I just realized that SVTV player has INSTANT VOD, you can just go back and rewatch the whole event O.o
Yeah I'm going to rewatch that offensive hatch from Life now.
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ARGH I'm going to lose it if the robot wins.
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HuK so good in that commercial :D
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On September 16 2013 05:35 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:33 Necosarius wrote:On September 16 2013 05:31 Heartland wrote:
@Startale_Life 17s
Sorry my fan me very chobo He's talking to Zealously! Nah, he's just very direct, he's speaking to every fan.
He's zerg rushing every fan, because that's how he communicates. (:
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On September 16 2013 05:34 sparklyresidue wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:33 unigolyn wrote:On September 16 2013 05:32 sparklyresidue wrote:On September 16 2013 05:31 unigolyn wrote:On September 16 2013 05:30 sparklyresidue wrote:On September 16 2013 05:29 unigolyn wrote:On September 16 2013 05:27 scaban84 wrote:On September 16 2013 05:25 TheDwf wrote:On September 16 2013 05:24 Dingodile wrote:
hahaha
this game is the best example to show how terrible widow mines are. pure randomness. Yes, Mines were totally the problem this game. Widowmines are what held Life's all-in which should have killed Taeja's greedy build. Zerg can't complain about greedy builds, unless it's 3CC before rax. What You hatch first 90% of the time, how was Taeja's build greedy? He built enough for defense and got a third CC. hatch first has been standard in tvz since forever. my question still stands, and without a question mark. And my response still stands, you can't say a build with starport tech before third is "greedy". so unless 3 cc before rax, 2 base zerg all in should never hurt terran. ok.
It did hurt terran quite a bit, they were equalized but Life never got a third. I also haven't seen all that many 2 base all-ins from terran kill Zerg lately.
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Hooray I'm glad I was wrong about Bogus and he took out MMA. Just got home woot woot
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On September 16 2013 05:36 Rassy wrote:innovation gonna roll all over taeja
In your dreams. In everyone else's nightmares.
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On September 16 2013 05:31 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:30 FiWiFaKi wrote:On September 16 2013 05:29 Sub40APM wrote:On September 16 2013 05:28 Crot4le wrote:
The way I see it know is that TaeJa will win Dreamhack. It's not that I think he's a better player than INnoVation, in fact I think INnoVation is definitely better overall, I just think that TaeJa is better at TvT so will win against Inno. innovation is better over all? Taeja has better results vs all races. Innovation was great when hellbats were good, now that Blizz balanced them innovation dropped down. Also, statistically, Taeja's worst match up by FAAAR is TvT. Statistically, Taeja took a massive, steaming number two on Innovation's face last night in TvT. Here's hoping he does it again.
omg you're pretty good
call me
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Taeja wins. He wins everything lately =D
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On September 16 2013 05:37 Shellshock wrote:
Hooray I'm glad I was wrong about Bogus and he took out MMA. Just got home woot woot
How could you.
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On September 16 2013 05:33 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:29 Sub40APM wrote:On September 16 2013 05:28 Crot4le wrote:
The way I see it know is that TaeJa will win Dreamhack. It's not that I think he's a better player than INnoVation, in fact I think INnoVation is definitely better overall, I just think that TaeJa is better at TvT so will win against Inno. innovation is better over all? Taeja has better results vs all races. Innovation was great when hellbats were good, now that Blizz balanced them innovation dropped down. Moving on from the fact that he's currently #1 while TaeJa is #5 (a difference of 2.2k WCS points) let's analyse the match-ups. TvZ - INnoVation is better (by a country mile). TvP - INnoVation is better (only slightly though). TvT - TaeJa is better (considerably). I think the main reason people try to make out that TaeJa is better than Inno is because TaeJa is regularly beating him. But that's only because TaeJa is really strong in that match-up whilst it is INnoVation's main weakness.
Thats only your opinion. A lot of people would tell you Taeja is the best TvP.
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