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johnnyapplec
Profile Joined January 2012
United States33 Posts
September 15 2013 20:35 GMT
#5061
On September 16 2013 05:33 Crot4le wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 05:29 Sub40APM wrote:
On September 16 2013 05:28 Crot4le wrote:


The way I see it know is that TaeJa will win Dreamhack. It's not that I think he's a better player than INnoVation, in fact I think INnoVation is definitely better overall, I just think that TaeJa is better at TvT so will win against Inno.

innovation is better over all? Taeja has better results vs all races. Innovation was great when hellbats were good, now that Blizz balanced them innovation dropped down.


Moving on from the fact that he's currently #1 while TaeJa is #5 (a difference of 2.2k WCS points) let's analyse the match-ups.

TvZ - INnoVation is better (by a country mile).
TvP - INnoVation is better (only slightly though).
TvT - TaeJa is better (considerably).

I think the main reason people try to make out that TaeJa is better than Inno is because TaeJa is regularly beating him. But that's only because TaeJa is really strong in that match-up whilst it is INnoVation's main weakness.


Innovation hella good agaisnt other races but taejja has the edge agaisnt t
Plus it's summer
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
September 15 2013 20:35 GMT
#5062
On September 16 2013 05:34 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 05:33 Crot4le wrote:
On September 16 2013 05:29 Sub40APM wrote:
On September 16 2013 05:28 Crot4le wrote:


The way I see it know is that TaeJa will win Dreamhack. It's not that I think he's a better player than INnoVation, in fact I think INnoVation is definitely better overall, I just think that TaeJa is better at TvT so will win against Inno.

innovation is better over all? Taeja has better results vs all races. Innovation was great when hellbats were good, now that Blizz balanced them innovation dropped down.


Moving on from the fact that he's currently #1 while TaeJa is #5 (a difference of 2.2k WCS points) let's analyse the match-ups.

TvZ - INnoVation is better (by a country mile).
TvP - INnoVation is better (only slightly though).
TvT - TaeJa is better (considerably).

I think the main reason people try to make out that TaeJa is better than Inno is because TaeJa is regularly beating him. But that's only because TaeJa is really strong in that match-up whilst it is INnoVation's main weakness.

Country mile is an exaggeration.


Maybe but only just. INnoVation is a TvZ God, whereas TaeJa is only exceptional.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
September 15 2013 20:35 GMT
#5063
On September 16 2013 05:34 Tanzklaue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 05:33 Crot4le wrote:
On September 16 2013 05:29 Sub40APM wrote:
On September 16 2013 05:28 Crot4le wrote:


The way I see it know is that TaeJa will win Dreamhack. It's not that I think he's a better player than INnoVation, in fact I think INnoVation is definitely better overall, I just think that TaeJa is better at TvT so will win against Inno.

innovation is better over all? Taeja has better results vs all races. Innovation was great when hellbats were good, now that Blizz balanced them innovation dropped down.


Moving on from the fact that he's currently #1 while TaeJa is #5 (a difference of 2.2k WCS points) let's analyse the match-ups.

TvZ - INnoVation is better (by a country mile).
TvP - INnoVation is better (only slightly though).
TvT - TaeJa is better (considerably).

I think the main reason people try to make out that TaeJa is better than Inno is because TaeJa is regularly beating him. But that's only because TaeJa is really strong in that match-up whilst it is INnoVation's main weakness.

I think Taeja is better at TvP than Inno. he manhandled Rain, and sos.

and taeja isn't that much worse at TvZ.


INnoVation destroyed Rain as well when Rain was playing well. Rain really fucked up against TaeJa badly. Also that series against sOs.,.. yay really. INnoVation did 4-0 vs sOs, what do you want? :D
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
September 15 2013 20:35 GMT
#5064
On September 16 2013 05:34 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 05:32 VisonKai wrote:
On September 16 2013 05:31 Heartland wrote:
@Startale_Life 17s

Sorry my fan me very chobo


This killed me. I am going to cry.


Oh no, poor Life, he got top 4 and got a seed to Dreamhack Winter where the huge prize pool is at.

POOR LIFE. MIGHT AS WELL RETIRE.

way overdoing it
Hello
painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
September 15 2013 20:36 GMT
#5065
On September 16 2013 05:33 Crot4le wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 05:29 Sub40APM wrote:
On September 16 2013 05:28 Crot4le wrote:


The way I see it know is that TaeJa will win Dreamhack. It's not that I think he's a better player than INnoVation, in fact I think INnoVation is definitely better overall, I just think that TaeJa is better at TvT so will win against Inno.

innovation is better over all? Taeja has better results vs all races. Innovation was great when hellbats were good, now that Blizz balanced them innovation dropped down.


Moving on from the fact that he's currently #1 while TaeJa is #5 (a difference of 2.2k WCS points) let's analyse the match-ups.

TvZ - INnoVation is better (by a country mile).
TvP - INnoVation is better (only slightly though).
TvT - TaeJa is better (considerably).

I think the main reason people try to make out that TaeJa is better than Inno is because TaeJa is regularly beating him. But that's only because TaeJa is really strong in that match-up whilst it is INnoVation's main weakness.


What are you smoking Taeja's TvP is the best in the business, a level above other terrans.
Supernova | TY | Polt | Innovation | forGG | Lucifron | Happy
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
September 15 2013 20:36 GMT
#5066
On September 16 2013 05:34 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 05:32 VisonKai wrote:
On September 16 2013 05:31 Heartland wrote:
@Startale_Life 17s

Sorry my fan me very chobo


This killed me. I am going to cry.


Oh no, poor Life, he got top 4 and got a seed to Dreamhack Winter where the huge prize pool is at.

POOR LIFE. MIGHT AS WELL RETIRE.


But we want Life to win.. surely he deserves victory the most
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
September 15 2013 20:36 GMT
#5067
innovation gonna roll all over taeja
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
September 15 2013 20:36 GMT
#5068
On September 16 2013 05:35 johnnyapplec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 05:33 Crot4le wrote:
On September 16 2013 05:29 Sub40APM wrote:
On September 16 2013 05:28 Crot4le wrote:


The way I see it know is that TaeJa will win Dreamhack. It's not that I think he's a better player than INnoVation, in fact I think INnoVation is definitely better overall, I just think that TaeJa is better at TvT so will win against Inno.

innovation is better over all? Taeja has better results vs all races. Innovation was great when hellbats were good, now that Blizz balanced them innovation dropped down.


Moving on from the fact that he's currently #1 while TaeJa is #5 (a difference of 2.2k WCS points) let's analyse the match-ups.

TvZ - INnoVation is better (by a country mile).
TvP - INnoVation is better (only slightly though).
TvT - TaeJa is better (considerably).

I think the main reason people try to make out that TaeJa is better than Inno is because TaeJa is regularly beating him. But that's only because TaeJa is really strong in that match-up whilst it is INnoVation's main weakness.


Innovation hella good agaisnt other races but taejja has the edge agaisnt t


That's exactly what my post was saying.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
September 15 2013 20:36 GMT
#5069
As someone who had been away from the scene for a long time, but chose to watch DH, I've gotta say: Widow mines really ruin TvZ. I'm a Protoss player and always enjoyed TvZ, but its just not the same anymore. Plain and simply bad for the game.
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
September 15 2013 20:36 GMT
#5070
On September 16 2013 05:34 ntssauce wrote:
I just realized that SVTV player has INSTANT VOD, you can just go back and rewatch the whole event O.o


Yeah I'm going to rewatch that offensive hatch from Life now.
hundred thousand krouner
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 15 2013 20:36 GMT
#5071
ARGH I'm going to lose it if the robot wins.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Jonrock
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Germany80 Posts
September 15 2013 20:36 GMT
#5072
HuK so good in that commercial :D
take apart your head
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
September 15 2013 20:36 GMT
#5073
On September 16 2013 05:35 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 05:33 Necosarius wrote:
On September 16 2013 05:31 Heartland wrote:
@Startale_Life 17s

Sorry my fan me very chobo

He's talking to Zealously!

Nah, he's just very direct, he's speaking to every fan.

He's zerg rushing every fan, because that's how he communicates. (:
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
unigolyn
Profile Joined August 2013
Estonia1272 Posts
September 15 2013 20:36 GMT
#5074
On September 16 2013 05:34 sparklyresidue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 05:33 unigolyn wrote:
On September 16 2013 05:32 sparklyresidue wrote:
On September 16 2013 05:31 unigolyn wrote:
On September 16 2013 05:30 sparklyresidue wrote:
On September 16 2013 05:29 unigolyn wrote:
On September 16 2013 05:27 scaban84 wrote:
On September 16 2013 05:25 TheDwf wrote:
On September 16 2013 05:24 Dingodile wrote:
hahaha
this game is the best example to show how terrible widow mines are. pure randomness.

Yes, Mines were totally the problem this game.

Widowmines are what held Life's all-in which should have killed Taeja's greedy build.


Zerg can't complain about greedy builds, unless it's 3CC before rax.

What


You hatch first 90% of the time, how was Taeja's build greedy? He built enough for defense and got a third CC.

hatch first has been standard in tvz since forever. my question still stands, and without a question mark.


And my response still stands, you can't say a build with starport tech before third is "greedy".

so unless 3 cc before rax, 2 base zerg all in should never hurt terran. ok.


It did hurt terran quite a bit, they were equalized but Life never got a third. I also haven't seen all that many 2 base all-ins from terran kill Zerg lately.
Show me what passes for fury amongst your misbegotten kind.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
September 15 2013 20:37 GMT
#5075
Hooray I'm glad I was wrong about Bogus and he took out MMA. Just got home woot woot
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 15 2013 20:37 GMT
#5076
On September 16 2013 05:36 Rassy wrote:
innovation gonna roll all over taeja

In your dreams. In everyone else's nightmares.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
September 15 2013 20:37 GMT
#5077
On September 16 2013 05:31 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 05:30 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On September 16 2013 05:29 Sub40APM wrote:
On September 16 2013 05:28 Crot4le wrote:


The way I see it know is that TaeJa will win Dreamhack. It's not that I think he's a better player than INnoVation, in fact I think INnoVation is definitely better overall, I just think that TaeJa is better at TvT so will win against Inno.

innovation is better over all? Taeja has better results vs all races. Innovation was great when hellbats were good, now that Blizz balanced them innovation dropped down.


Also, statistically, Taeja's worst match up by FAAAR is TvT.

Statistically, Taeja took a massive, steaming number two on Innovation's face last night in TvT. Here's hoping he does it again.


omg you're pretty good

call me
"In the name of Holy Terra I challenge, Take up arms, for the Emperor’s Justice falls on you!"
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-15 20:37:46
September 15 2013 20:37 GMT
#5078
Taeja wins. He wins everything lately =D
"Right on" - Morrow
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 15 2013 20:37 GMT
#5079
On September 16 2013 05:37 Shellshock wrote:
Hooray I'm glad I was wrong about Bogus and he took out MMA. Just got home woot woot

How could you.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Sea_aeS
Profile Joined November 2011
1025 Posts
September 15 2013 20:37 GMT
#5080
On September 16 2013 05:33 Crot4le wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 05:29 Sub40APM wrote:
On September 16 2013 05:28 Crot4le wrote:


The way I see it know is that TaeJa will win Dreamhack. It's not that I think he's a better player than INnoVation, in fact I think INnoVation is definitely better overall, I just think that TaeJa is better at TvT so will win against Inno.

innovation is better over all? Taeja has better results vs all races. Innovation was great when hellbats were good, now that Blizz balanced them innovation dropped down.


Moving on from the fact that he's currently #1 while TaeJa is #5 (a difference of 2.2k WCS points) let's analyse the match-ups.

TvZ - INnoVation is better (by a country mile).
TvP - INnoVation is better (only slightly though).
TvT - TaeJa is better (considerably).

I think the main reason people try to make out that TaeJa is better than Inno is because TaeJa is regularly beating him. But that's only because TaeJa is really strong in that match-up whilst it is INnoVation's main weakness.


Thats only your opinion. A lot of people would tell you Taeja is the best TvP.
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