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On September 16 2013 05:36 Darkhoarse wrote:
ARGH I'm going to lose it if the robot wins.
Think about the champagne ceremony! I'm getting all giggly.
...too bad Taeja strong.
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I just tried watching LoL on source and there was no lag as opposed to watching DH on medium with substantial lag. I never usually complain about lag, but wth twitch?!?
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On September 16 2013 05:36 Mohdoo wrote:
As someone who had been away from the scene for a long time, but chose to watch DH, I've gotta say: Widow mines really ruin TvZ. I'm a Protoss player and always enjoyed TvZ, but its just not the same anymore. Plain and simply bad for the game.
What would that game have been without mines? A complete roll.
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On September 16 2013 05:34 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:32 VisonKai wrote:On September 16 2013 05:31 Heartland wrote:
@Startale_Life 17s
Sorry my fan me very chobo This killed me. I am going to cry. Oh no, poor Life, he got top 4 and got a seed to Dreamhack Winter where the huge prize pool is at. POOR LIFE. MIGHT AS WELL RETIRE.
I feel the Zealously bait. 
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On September 16 2013 05:35 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:34 Tanzklaue wrote:On September 16 2013 05:33 Crot4le wrote:On September 16 2013 05:29 Sub40APM wrote:On September 16 2013 05:28 Crot4le wrote:
The way I see it know is that TaeJa will win Dreamhack. It's not that I think he's a better player than INnoVation, in fact I think INnoVation is definitely better overall, I just think that TaeJa is better at TvT so will win against Inno. innovation is better over all? Taeja has better results vs all races. Innovation was great when hellbats were good, now that Blizz balanced them innovation dropped down. Moving on from the fact that he's currently #1 while TaeJa is #5 (a difference of 2.2k WCS points) let's analyse the match-ups. TvZ - INnoVation is better (by a country mile). TvP - INnoVation is better (only slightly though). TvT - TaeJa is better (considerably). I think the main reason people try to make out that TaeJa is better than Inno is because TaeJa is regularly beating him. But that's only because TaeJa is really strong in that match-up whilst it is INnoVation's main weakness. I think Taeja is better at TvP than Inno. he manhandled Rain, and sos. and taeja isn't that much worse at TvZ. INnoVation destroyed Rain as well when Rain was playing well. Rain really fucked up against TaeJa badly. Also that series against sOs.,.. yay really. INnoVation did 4-0 vs sOs, what do you want? :D
Why are you pulling up stats from half a year ago? Lol. Innovation looked quite mortal in TvP recently, losing to a foreigner even.
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The Major interview which was on SVT just now, when was it from? I didn't catch the beginning of it. I really like Major, and he seems so passionate when speaking about his life in Korea.
I have not really been following, but was Major not sent home? And in the interview he spoke as if he lived together with Innovation, whom he reveres. I can only assume it has be a very old interview, can anyone please clarify for a fool?
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On September 16 2013 05:34 sparklyresidue wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:33 unigolyn wrote:On September 16 2013 05:32 sparklyresidue wrote:On September 16 2013 05:31 unigolyn wrote:On September 16 2013 05:30 sparklyresidue wrote:On September 16 2013 05:29 unigolyn wrote:On September 16 2013 05:27 scaban84 wrote:On September 16 2013 05:25 TheDwf wrote:On September 16 2013 05:24 Dingodile wrote:
hahaha
this game is the best example to show how terrible widow mines are. pure randomness. Yes, Mines were totally the problem this game. Widowmines are what held Life's all-in which should have killed Taeja's greedy build. Zerg can't complain about greedy builds, unless it's 3CC before rax. What You hatch first 90% of the time, how was Taeja's build greedy? He built enough for defense and got a third CC. hatch first has been standard in tvz since forever. my question still stands, and without a question mark. And my response still stands, you can't say a build with starport tech before third is "greedy". so unless 3 cc before rax, 2 base zerg all in should never hurt terran. ok.
It is what it is and it's all Life's fault for choosing a build with such a low chance of working
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On September 16 2013 05:36 painkilla wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:33 Crot4le wrote:On September 16 2013 05:29 Sub40APM wrote:On September 16 2013 05:28 Crot4le wrote:
The way I see it know is that TaeJa will win Dreamhack. It's not that I think he's a better player than INnoVation, in fact I think INnoVation is definitely better overall, I just think that TaeJa is better at TvT so will win against Inno. innovation is better over all? Taeja has better results vs all races. Innovation was great when hellbats were good, now that Blizz balanced them innovation dropped down. Moving on from the fact that he's currently #1 while TaeJa is #5 (a difference of 2.2k WCS points) let's analyse the match-ups. TvZ - INnoVation is better (by a country mile). TvP - INnoVation is better (only slightly though). TvT - TaeJa is better (considerably). I think the main reason people try to make out that TaeJa is better than Inno is because TaeJa is regularly beating him. But that's only because TaeJa is really strong in that match-up whilst it is INnoVation's main weakness. What are you smoking Taeja's TvP is the best in the business, a level above other terrans.
You can make a case for either but the timing of how INnoVation pulls those SCVs is just perfection and that does it for me. Aside from CranK I don't think Bogus has dropped a single map against Protoss this Dreamhack.
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On September 16 2013 05:35 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:34 Tanzklaue wrote:On September 16 2013 05:33 Crot4le wrote:On September 16 2013 05:29 Sub40APM wrote:On September 16 2013 05:28 Crot4le wrote:
The way I see it know is that TaeJa will win Dreamhack. It's not that I think he's a better player than INnoVation, in fact I think INnoVation is definitely better overall, I just think that TaeJa is better at TvT so will win against Inno. innovation is better over all? Taeja has better results vs all races. Innovation was great when hellbats were good, now that Blizz balanced them innovation dropped down. Moving on from the fact that he's currently #1 while TaeJa is #5 (a difference of 2.2k WCS points) let's analyse the match-ups. TvZ - INnoVation is better (by a country mile). TvP - INnoVation is better (only slightly though). TvT - TaeJa is better (considerably). I think the main reason people try to make out that TaeJa is better than Inno is because TaeJa is regularly beating him. But that's only because TaeJa is really strong in that match-up whilst it is INnoVation's main weakness. I think Taeja is better at TvP than Inno. he manhandled Rain, and sos. and taeja isn't that much worse at TvZ. INnoVation destroyed Rain as well when Rain was playing well. Rain really fucked up against TaeJa badly. Also that series against sOs.,.. yay really. INnoVation did 4-0 vs sOs, what do you want? :D
But but but INno lost to Crank.
Both INno and TaeJa are great players, let the duel begins.
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On September 16 2013 05:37 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:36 Darkhoarse wrote:
ARGH I'm going to lose it if the robot wins. Think about the champagne ceremony! I'm getting all giggly. ...too bad Taeja strong.
Innovation will just eat the bottle and finally prove that he is a cyborg.
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On September 16 2013 05:38 painkilla wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:35 NarutO wrote:On September 16 2013 05:34 Tanzklaue wrote:On September 16 2013 05:33 Crot4le wrote:On September 16 2013 05:29 Sub40APM wrote:On September 16 2013 05:28 Crot4le wrote:
The way I see it know is that TaeJa will win Dreamhack. It's not that I think he's a better player than INnoVation, in fact I think INnoVation is definitely better overall, I just think that TaeJa is better at TvT so will win against Inno. innovation is better over all? Taeja has better results vs all races. Innovation was great when hellbats were good, now that Blizz balanced them innovation dropped down. Moving on from the fact that he's currently #1 while TaeJa is #5 (a difference of 2.2k WCS points) let's analyse the match-ups. TvZ - INnoVation is better (by a country mile). TvP - INnoVation is better (only slightly though). TvT - TaeJa is better (considerably). I think the main reason people try to make out that TaeJa is better than Inno is because TaeJa is regularly beating him. But that's only because TaeJa is really strong in that match-up whilst it is INnoVation's main weakness. I think Taeja is better at TvP than Inno. he manhandled Rain, and sos. and taeja isn't that much worse at TvZ. INnoVation destroyed Rain as well when Rain was playing well. Rain really fucked up against TaeJa badly. Also that series against sOs.,.. yay really. INnoVation did 4-0 vs sOs, what do you want? :D Why are you pulling up stats from half a year ago? Lol. Innovation looked quite mortal in TvP recently, losing to a foreigner even.
Taeja lost a map to Welmu this tournament. INnoVation has a greater than 70% Winrate TvP and nearly 80% TvZ
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On September 16 2013 05:36 Darkhoarse wrote:
ARGH I'm going to lose it if the robot wins.
Which one is the robot?;f
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1. Stop it with the stupid commercials.
2. If you're going to show that cool hearthstone commercial to me, you better have a beta key with my name on it prepared.
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On September 16 2013 05:38 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:36 painkilla wrote:On September 16 2013 05:33 Crot4le wrote:On September 16 2013 05:29 Sub40APM wrote:On September 16 2013 05:28 Crot4le wrote:
The way I see it know is that TaeJa will win Dreamhack. It's not that I think he's a better player than INnoVation, in fact I think INnoVation is definitely better overall, I just think that TaeJa is better at TvT so will win against Inno. innovation is better over all? Taeja has better results vs all races. Innovation was great when hellbats were good, now that Blizz balanced them innovation dropped down. Moving on from the fact that he's currently #1 while TaeJa is #5 (a difference of 2.2k WCS points) let's analyse the match-ups. TvZ - INnoVation is better (by a country mile). TvP - INnoVation is better (only slightly though). TvT - TaeJa is better (considerably). I think the main reason people try to make out that TaeJa is better than Inno is because TaeJa is regularly beating him. But that's only because TaeJa is really strong in that match-up whilst it is INnoVation's main weakness. What are you smoking Taeja's TvP is the best in the business, a level above other terrans. You can make a case for either but the timing of how INnoVation pulls those SCVs is just perfection and that does it for me. Aside from CranK I don't think Bogus has dropped a single map against Protoss this Dreamhack.
the way taeja crushes late game protoss is pure magic aswell.
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On September 16 2013 05:37 ImperialFist wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:31 Darkhoarse wrote:On September 16 2013 05:30 FiWiFaKi wrote:On September 16 2013 05:29 Sub40APM wrote:On September 16 2013 05:28 Crot4le wrote:
The way I see it know is that TaeJa will win Dreamhack. It's not that I think he's a better player than INnoVation, in fact I think INnoVation is definitely better overall, I just think that TaeJa is better at TvT so will win against Inno. innovation is better over all? Taeja has better results vs all races. Innovation was great when hellbats were good, now that Blizz balanced them innovation dropped down. Also, statistically, Taeja's worst match up by FAAAR is TvT. Statistically, Taeja took a massive, steaming number two on Innovation's face last night in TvT. Here's hoping he does it again. omg you're pretty good call me
Thanks.
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Kerence
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On September 16 2013 05:38 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:37 AlternativeEgo wrote:On September 16 2013 05:36 Darkhoarse wrote:
ARGH I'm going to lose it if the robot wins. Think about the champagne ceremony! I'm getting all giggly. ...too bad Taeja strong. Innovation will just eat the bottle and finally prove that he is a cyborg.
Depends on if they're backstage at the moment trying to install a champagne bottle opening subroutine or not.
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On September 16 2013 05:37 figq wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:34 Dodgin wrote:On September 16 2013 05:32 VisonKai wrote:On September 16 2013 05:31 Heartland wrote:
@Startale_Life 17s
Sorry my fan me very chobo This killed me. I am going to cry. Oh no, poor Life, he got top 4 and got a seed to Dreamhack Winter where the huge prize pool is at. POOR LIFE. MIGHT AS WELL RETIRE. I feel the Zealously bait.
I really want to add salt into those injured Startale fans
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On September 16 2013 05:39 DinoToss wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:36 Darkhoarse wrote:
ARGH I'm going to lose it if the robot wins. Which one is the robot?;f
They call him le senior "Innovation" robot.
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On September 16 2013 05:39 LawnMower wrote:
1. Stop it with the stupid commercials.
2. If you're going to show that cool hearthstone commercial to me, you better have a beta key with my name on it prepared.
hahaha i second the second point.
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At least Life is the only one able to win against a Terran in elimination stage. I guess that could be a big achievement now.
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