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openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
August 24 2013 13:53 GMT
#2621
On August 24 2013 22:47 Zheryn wrote:
I'm not even sure how the hell that happened. Alive was outplaying him the entire game, so late natural and third by First, and somehow he still had big enough army to stomp Alive.


The casters didn't show the constant zealot warp ins.
Toss's smart play is to play defensively with storms, lose a templar here, lose some zealots there. Use storms to disengage, Warp in replacement templars and zealots. Keep on dancing with main armies, while trying to keep on warping in zealots with warp prism and try to find a hole in Terran base. Never engage unless 100% opponent is out of position.

Hard to deal with. Not impossible but apm wise much harder on Terran. Not balance whining, just stating a fact. Still great games. Go head to head in one big battle and you flip a coin as to who comes out on top depending on micro and positioning. Dragging it out while backstabbing tilts the odds in P's way as eventually 10-12 zealots will find a chink somewhere.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
August 24 2013 13:53 GMT
#2622
On August 24 2013 22:48 Swisslink wrote:
aLive's multitasking just completely fell apart. It wasn't only the storms but also the fact that aLive did absolutely nothing to defend in his base.

Maybe because he had nothing to defend? SCVs don't do that well against upgraded Zealots.
SamuelGreen
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden292 Posts
August 24 2013 13:53 GMT
#2623
Yeah that was a singular good storm. Thats all you need :-)
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
August 24 2013 13:53 GMT
#2624
On August 24 2013 22:52 Skillver wrote:
Finally, a korean who does a bit of workout

Dude, Jaedong is pretty swole.
Long live the King of Wings
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
August 24 2013 13:53 GMT
#2625
On August 24 2013 22:52 Raambo11 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 22:48 Swisslink wrote:
aLive's multitasking just completely fell apart. It wasn't only the storms but also the fact that aLive did absolutely nothing to defend in his base.


When your maxed as terran you can't defend until you lose supply if your army is on the other side of the map. Either that or wait for a production cycle and take damage meanwhile.


If the Protoss is dedicating supply to harassment then the Terran must dedicate supply to defense. Splitting your army is so hard? And people complain about deathballs.
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
August 24 2013 13:53 GMT
#2626
great series, great that First won too, IM so strong!
Darthsanta13
Profile Joined July 2011
United States564 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 13:54:09
August 24 2013 13:53 GMT
#2627
Oh man let the tears flow

Congrats to First! Excited to see more of him
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 24 2013 13:53 GMT
#2628
On August 24 2013 22:51 Netto. wrote:
quick 3-0 now in JD vs Naniwa


a man can dream
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
reki-
Profile Joined July 2008
Netherlands327 Posts
August 24 2013 13:54 GMT
#2629
man fck this lag :/
>BD
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 24 2013 13:54 GMT
#2630
On August 24 2013 22:53 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 22:48 Swisslink wrote:
aLive's multitasking just completely fell apart. It wasn't only the storms but also the fact that aLive did absolutely nothing to defend in his base.

Maybe because he had nothing to defend? SCVs don't do that well against upgraded Zealots.


What can a terran player do then? Like produce a ton of turrets?
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 24 2013 13:54 GMT
#2631
That was so sad to watch, poor aLive. Up 30 supply to down by 30 in an instant >< GG first.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
August 24 2013 13:54 GMT
#2632
Who is rooting for Jaedong?
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
August 24 2013 13:54 GMT
#2633
On August 24 2013 22:53 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 22:51 Netto. wrote:
quick 3-0 now in JD vs Naniwa


a man can dream


I dream of lagfree twitch events.
월요 날 재미있
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 24 2013 13:54 GMT
#2634
On August 24 2013 22:54 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Who is rooting for Jaedong?

Me. :D
kiss kiss fall in love
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 24 2013 13:54 GMT
#2635
On August 24 2013 22:53 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 22:52 Skillver wrote:
Finally, a korean who does a bit of workout

Dude, Jaedong is pretty swole.


Have you seen HerO's biceps? He's hawt
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
August 24 2013 13:54 GMT
#2636
JAEDONGGGGGGGG
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
August 24 2013 13:54 GMT
#2637
On August 24 2013 22:53 75 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 22:51 boxerfred wrote:
On August 24 2013 22:48 Sated wrote:
On August 24 2013 22:47 boxerfred wrote:
protoss basics #3: lose your HT until the ghosts do not have energy.
protoss basics #4: do 2 storms and win

And the balance whining begins again...

:D

...

The game isn't even over yet.



Not talking about balance. Just talking about the skill required to manage the armies.

so you are whining about balance?


touché again.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 24 2013 13:55 GMT
#2638
Poll: Head?

Jaedong (27)
 
66%

NaNiwa (14)
 
34%

41 total votes

Your vote: Head?

(Vote): NaNiwa
(Vote): Jaedong


Poll: Heart?

Jaedong (28)
 
64%

NaNiwa (16)
 
36%

44 total votes

Your vote: Heart?

(Vote): NaNiwa
(Vote): Jaedong

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Frex
Profile Joined March 2012
Finland888 Posts
August 24 2013 13:55 GMT
#2639
That was really bitter loss to aLive but it was a great match, couldn´t have gotten much better.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
August 24 2013 13:55 GMT
#2640
On August 24 2013 22:53 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 22:52 Raambo11 wrote:
On August 24 2013 22:48 Swisslink wrote:
aLive's multitasking just completely fell apart. It wasn't only the storms but also the fact that aLive did absolutely nothing to defend in his base.


When your maxed as terran you can't defend until you lose supply if your army is on the other side of the map. Either that or wait for a production cycle and take damage meanwhile.


If the Protoss is dedicating supply to harassment then the Terran must dedicate supply to defense. Splitting your army is so hard? And people complain about deathballs.

Both armies don't have the same supply-efficiency at all; park 20 army supply to defend Zealots raids and suddenly your core army melts so badly.
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