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On August 15 2013 21:05 Raambo11 wrote: Why is there not a 3 way tie even if Jjakji wins? The other day we had a 3 way tie even though one of the players had a map win over the other two..really confusing
Depends on the Head-2-head results. And KangHo would have won against the other 2.
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On August 15 2013 21:04 Taf the Ghost wrote: What's the tie-breaker like if we get a 5-way? Do we have play a "play until you lose" system, with the first to 3 victories goes in?
Basically you turn the clock 3 hours and start over.
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On August 15 2013 21:05 Destructicon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 20:51 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On August 15 2013 20:50 DidYuhim wrote:On August 15 2013 20:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On August 15 2013 20:48 DidYuhim wrote:On August 15 2013 20:46 LimitSEA wrote:On August 15 2013 20:44 Fusilero wrote:On August 15 2013 20:43 LimitSEA wrote: Omg. I can't believe KangHo lost to Shine. The disbelief fuels shine. But it's Shine. Jesus. What planet am I living on? Somehow, Maru is the OSL champion. It's the planet we live on. Still better than Jjakji or Seed winning GSL.  Nah, it's somewhere around Sniper winning GSL. And Sniper winning GSL is still better than Jjakji or Seed winning GSL. Because Sniper actually played very well that season.  Don't disrespect Seed and Jjakji, they played brilliantly to win their respective championships and had to go trough tough opponents. Seed's run in particular was amazing, defeated Symbol trough a reverse sweep 3-2, defeated Byun the same way, 3-2 displaying incredible mental fortitude and patience and in the grand final he dismantled MC displaying superior knowledge of PvP at the time and brilliant micro. Too many people here have the nerve to downplay the efforts of the past champions, they may have only shone for 2 months but they where the best players of those two months, give them the respect they deserve. On topic, interesting game from effort and Hurricane, really crazy scenario, its a bit too bad effort didn't read the situation better, I think he could have crushed that 2 base push, though I guess Hurricane was banking on forcing lots of units and recalling out if the situation went sour. Still glad effort won.
Seed vs Symbol was incredibly sloppy and it's a shame MC wasn't in shape when the finals were played.
Jjakji had an insanely lucky run to even reach the finals in the first place, riddled with mediocre and poor games, although to his only credit the finals was fantastic.
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On August 15 2013 21:05 Destructicon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 20:51 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On August 15 2013 20:50 DidYuhim wrote:On August 15 2013 20:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On August 15 2013 20:48 DidYuhim wrote:On August 15 2013 20:46 LimitSEA wrote:On August 15 2013 20:44 Fusilero wrote:On August 15 2013 20:43 LimitSEA wrote: Omg. I can't believe KangHo lost to Shine. The disbelief fuels shine. But it's Shine. Jesus. What planet am I living on? Somehow, Maru is the OSL champion. It's the planet we live on. Still better than Jjakji or Seed winning GSL.  Nah, it's somewhere around Sniper winning GSL. And Sniper winning GSL is still better than Jjakji or Seed winning GSL. Because Sniper actually played very well that season.  Don't disrespect Seed and Jjakji, they played brilliantly to win their respective championships and had to go trough tough opponents. Seed's run in particular was amazing, defeated Symbol trough a reverse sweep 3-2, defeated Byun the same way, 3-2 displaying incredible mental fortitude and patience and in the grand final he dismantled MC displaying superior knowledge of PvP at the time and brilliant micro. Too many people here have the nerve to downplay the efforts of the past champions, they may have only shone for 2 months but they where the best players of those two months, give them the respect they deserve. On topic, interesting game from effort and Hurricane, really crazy scenario, its a bit too bad effort didn't read the situation better, I think he could have crushed that 2 base push, though I guess Hurricane was banking on forcing lots of units and recalling out if the situation went sour. Still glad effort won.
Jjakji and leenock still hold the title IMO of best finals as well, Jjakji was truly the best player in the world at the time
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On August 15 2013 21:03 TheDougler wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 20:56 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On August 15 2013 20:54 KristofferAG wrote:On August 15 2013 20:51 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On August 15 2013 20:50 DidYuhim wrote:On August 15 2013 20:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On August 15 2013 20:48 DidYuhim wrote:On August 15 2013 20:46 LimitSEA wrote:On August 15 2013 20:44 Fusilero wrote:On August 15 2013 20:43 LimitSEA wrote: Omg. I can't believe KangHo lost to Shine. The disbelief fuels shine. But it's Shine. Jesus. What planet am I living on? Somehow, Maru is the OSL champion. It's the planet we live on. Still better than Jjakji or Seed winning GSL.  Nah, it's somewhere around Sniper winning GSL. And Sniper winning GSL is still better than Jjakji or Seed winning GSL. Because Sniper actually played very well that season.  Implying that jjakji didn't play really well and just lucked his way to championship? With the sole exception of the finals, that is very much what I am implying. I mean I give NesTea a lot of flak but at least his wins were always convincing. Jjakji barely scraped through to reach the finals and delivered a lot of mediocre/uninspired games. Indeed, the Coca thing and that bizarre base race against supernova made jjakji the strangest champion of all time IMO
Sniper is still bottom of the barrel for me. He's like the least distinguishable zerg I've ever seen. His run was better than Jjakji's but worse than Seed's. Yet, unlike Seed he did stick around for just a little bit longer.
Still, of the 3 Jjakji has had the greatest longevity of the 3 considering he stayed in code S a little bit longer after winning, almost solely kept NSH alive, made a decent run in Iron Squid, and won a fairly good tournament to qualify for IPL4. It might sound like I'm desperate, but really all 3 of those champs have so few results I need something to distinguish them with.
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On August 15 2013 21:05 Destructicon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 20:51 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On August 15 2013 20:50 DidYuhim wrote:On August 15 2013 20:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On August 15 2013 20:48 DidYuhim wrote:On August 15 2013 20:46 LimitSEA wrote:On August 15 2013 20:44 Fusilero wrote:On August 15 2013 20:43 LimitSEA wrote: Omg. I can't believe KangHo lost to Shine. The disbelief fuels shine. But it's Shine. Jesus. What planet am I living on? Somehow, Maru is the OSL champion. It's the planet we live on. Still better than Jjakji or Seed winning GSL.  Nah, it's somewhere around Sniper winning GSL. And Sniper winning GSL is still better than Jjakji or Seed winning GSL. Because Sniper actually played very well that season.  Don't disrespect Seed and Jjakji, they played brilliantly to win their respective championships and had to go trough tough opponents. Seed's run in particular was amazing, defeated Symbol trough a reverse sweep 3-2, defeated Byun the same way, 3-2 displaying incredible mental fortitude and patience and in the grand final he dismantled MC displaying superior knowledge of PvP at the time and brilliant micro. Too many people here have the nerve to downplay the efforts of the past champions, they may have only shone for 2 months but they where the best players of those two months, give them the respect they deserve. On topic, interesting game from effort and Hurricane, really crazy scenario, its a bit too bad effort didn't read the situation better, I think he could have crushed that 2 base push, though I guess Hurricane was banking on forcing lots of units and recalling out if the situation went sour. Still glad effort won.
"superior knowledge of PvP", aka 4 gate.
I agree 100% though, it's easy to laugh at "washed up" champions now, but a win is a win, and no matter how you get there, winning code s is god damn hard.
No-one is saying that Seed/Jjakji/Sniper etc are better than Mvp. But at the time of their respective championships, they were.
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On August 15 2013 21:04 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 21:02 KristofferAG wrote:On August 15 2013 20:56 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On August 15 2013 20:54 KristofferAG wrote:On August 15 2013 20:51 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On August 15 2013 20:50 DidYuhim wrote:On August 15 2013 20:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On August 15 2013 20:48 DidYuhim wrote:On August 15 2013 20:46 LimitSEA wrote:On August 15 2013 20:44 Fusilero wrote: [quote] The disbelief fuels shine. But it's Shine. Jesus. What planet am I living on? Somehow, Maru is the OSL champion. It's the planet we live on. Still better than Jjakji or Seed winning GSL.  Nah, it's somewhere around Sniper winning GSL. And Sniper winning GSL is still better than Jjakji or Seed winning GSL. Because Sniper actually played very well that season.  Implying that jjakji didn't play really well and just lucked his way to championship? With the sole exception of the finals, that is very much what I am implying. I mean I give NesTea a lot of flak but at least his wins were always convincing. Jjakji barely scraped through to reach the finals and delivered a lot of mediocre/uninspired games. Except it's bullshit. His game v Killer in the Ro32? Awesome, even if he ended up losing, relentless. His game v Supernova in the same group is still one of the most amazing TvTs ever. Sure he lucked out in the Ro16 and only had to beat Gumi, and both his games v Mvp and Gumi were pretty scrappy and bad. But there's no way you can say his games v Oz weren't interesting at least, and even if he stomped Puzzle it was not because of Puzzle being bad, but jjakji being good. I disagree. Puzzle played like shit (like in every other Ro8 appearance he had) and the games vs Oz were some of the worst PvT I've ever watched. On paper Oz should've won that 3-0, but he made lots of mistakes and ended up losing. And I guarantee that if CoCa had took part in Code S Jjakji would have never made it to Playoffs. 
Jjakji-Leenock still delivered the best finals in terms of games. He did get good draws and lucky consequences. Then again, so did Sniper. Seed actually beat very good opponents and various races, etc. At least Jjakji is more relevant than Sniper now.
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On August 15 2013 21:06 ETisME wrote: 5 ways tier, imagine how stressful it is for the players
or for me. Got to watch constant 7 hours of GSL Up/Downs :D
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It's funny because Shine and Effort could forever be the masters of ties.
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On August 15 2013 21:04 Fyzar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 21:04 Rollora wrote:On August 15 2013 21:00 Fyzar wrote: Why the fuck is he not making a probe lol, what is he going to use the 60 minerals for -_-. or the 220 he had when the contain started? But he had a changeling in his main, if he makes a probe, Zerg sends 1 muta over... Ohh, I didn't see a changeling ~ that changes it a bit then I guess. yeah. and there was always the thread of mutas without large ammounts of cannons Zerg could always go for the snipe, recharches/heals muta -> snipes another probe. Yes, he could have tried it, but he had to gamble: if he loses the probes it was worth nothing. actually i wonder why Zerg didn't send 3 or 4 mutas over, just to slowly kill buildings. Protoss ofc tried to dry out the Zerg, I'll never understand the last attack
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The rocks strike again! Omg.
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On August 15 2013 21:05 MasterOfPuppets wrote:No, but OSL has had a day of four 3-way tiebreakers involving Shine and EffOrt. 
And one time was close but a Kespa Zerg fucked up if I recall
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Shit I had stuff to do today, if it's a shine-way tie it looks like this will last about 3-4 more hours O_O
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On August 15 2013 21:07 Raambo11 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 21:05 Destructicon wrote:On August 15 2013 20:51 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On August 15 2013 20:50 DidYuhim wrote:On August 15 2013 20:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On August 15 2013 20:48 DidYuhim wrote:On August 15 2013 20:46 LimitSEA wrote:On August 15 2013 20:44 Fusilero wrote:On August 15 2013 20:43 LimitSEA wrote: Omg. I can't believe KangHo lost to Shine. The disbelief fuels shine. But it's Shine. Jesus. What planet am I living on? Somehow, Maru is the OSL champion. It's the planet we live on. Still better than Jjakji or Seed winning GSL.  Nah, it's somewhere around Sniper winning GSL. And Sniper winning GSL is still better than Jjakji or Seed winning GSL. Because Sniper actually played very well that season.  Don't disrespect Seed and Jjakji, they played brilliantly to win their respective championships and had to go trough tough opponents. Seed's run in particular was amazing, defeated Symbol trough a reverse sweep 3-2, defeated Byun the same way, 3-2 displaying incredible mental fortitude and patience and in the grand final he dismantled MC displaying superior knowledge of PvP at the time and brilliant micro. Too many people here have the nerve to downplay the efforts of the past champions, they may have only shone for 2 months but they where the best players of those two months, give them the respect they deserve. On topic, interesting game from effort and Hurricane, really crazy scenario, its a bit too bad effort didn't read the situation better, I think he could have crushed that 2 base push, though I guess Hurricane was banking on forcing lots of units and recalling out if the situation went sour. Still glad effort won. Jjakji and leenock still hold the title IMO of best finals as well, Jjakji was truly the best player in the world at the time
At the time of the finals? Sure. Were the finals amazing? Sure. But people tend to forget how incredibly poor and lucky the rest of his run was.
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Yes, 3 rax play from jjakji. Solid choice vs Shine.
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wanting the 5 way tie to happen will make it not happen. if you really want it just cheer for shine to lose.
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we're on our way to a 5 way tie
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On August 15 2013 21:04 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 21:02 KristofferAG wrote:On August 15 2013 20:56 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On August 15 2013 20:54 KristofferAG wrote:On August 15 2013 20:51 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On August 15 2013 20:50 DidYuhim wrote:On August 15 2013 20:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On August 15 2013 20:48 DidYuhim wrote:On August 15 2013 20:46 LimitSEA wrote:On August 15 2013 20:44 Fusilero wrote: [quote] The disbelief fuels shine. But it's Shine. Jesus. What planet am I living on? Somehow, Maru is the OSL champion. It's the planet we live on. Still better than Jjakji or Seed winning GSL.  Nah, it's somewhere around Sniper winning GSL. And Sniper winning GSL is still better than Jjakji or Seed winning GSL. Because Sniper actually played very well that season.  Implying that jjakji didn't play really well and just lucked his way to championship? With the sole exception of the finals, that is very much what I am implying. I mean I give NesTea a lot of flak but at least his wins were always convincing. Jjakji barely scraped through to reach the finals and delivered a lot of mediocre/uninspired games. Except it's bullshit. His game v Killer in the Ro32? Awesome, even if he ended up losing, relentless. His game v Supernova in the same group is still one of the most amazing TvTs ever. Sure he lucked out in the Ro16 and only had to beat Gumi, and both his games v Mvp and Gumi were pretty scrappy and bad. But there's no way you can say his games v Oz weren't interesting at least, and even if he stomped Puzzle it was not because of Puzzle being bad, but jjakji being good. I disagree. Puzzle played like shit (like in every other Ro8 appearance he had) and the games vs Oz were some of the worst PvT I've ever watched. On paper Oz should've won that 3-0, but he made lots of mistakes and ended up losing. And I guarantee that if CoCa had took part in Code S Jjakji would have never made it to Playoffs.  jjakji shows the best TvZ on the planet. -> "he would have lost to Coca" ok...
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fuck artosis is rotting for shine on twitter
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