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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 15 2013 12:10 GMT
#541
On August 15 2013 21:04 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 21:02 KristofferAG wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:56 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:54 KristofferAG wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:51 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:50 DidYuhim wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:48 DidYuhim wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:46 LimitSEA wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:44 Fusilero wrote:
[quote]
The disbelief fuels shine.

But it's Shine. Jesus. What planet am I living on?

Somehow, Maru is the OSL champion.

It's the planet we live on.


Still better than Jjakji or Seed winning GSL.

Nah, it's somewhere around Sniper winning GSL.


And Sniper winning GSL is still better than Jjakji or Seed winning GSL. Because Sniper actually played very well that season.

Implying that jjakji didn't play really well and just lucked his way to championship?


With the sole exception of the finals, that is very much what I am implying.

I mean I give NesTea a lot of flak but at least his wins were always convincing. Jjakji barely scraped through to reach the finals and delivered a lot of mediocre/uninspired games.

Except it's bullshit. His game v Killer in the Ro32? Awesome, even if he ended up losing, relentless. His game v Supernova in the same group is still one of the most amazing TvTs ever. Sure he lucked out in the Ro16 and only had to beat Gumi, and both his games v Mvp and Gumi were pretty scrappy and bad. But there's no way you can say his games v Oz weren't interesting at least, and even if he stomped Puzzle it was not because of Puzzle being bad, but jjakji being good.


I disagree. Puzzle played like shit (like in every other Ro8 appearance he had) and the games vs Oz were some of the worst PvT I've ever watched. On paper Oz should've won that 3-0, but he made lots of mistakes and ended up losing. And I guarantee that if CoCa had took part in Code S Jjakji would have never made it to Playoffs.

Sure, with CoCa in it there's a high chance jjakji wouldn't have made it at all, I'm not gonna argue that, but I disagree on the Oz games. Eh.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 12:10:53
August 15 2013 12:10 GMT
#542
Dan Stemkoski ‏@Artosis 45s
First time in my life I'm rooting for Shine. GIVE ME MORE SC.



FUCK YES JJAKJI CODE S!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
August 15 2013 12:10 GMT
#543
Man I'm torn, on the one hand I want Jjakji to win so he and KangHo to get into Code S, but on the other hand I really want the insanity of a 5 way tie to ensue.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 15 2013 12:10 GMT
#544
On August 15 2013 21:07 Thrillz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 21:04 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 15 2013 21:02 KristofferAG wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:56 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:54 KristofferAG wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:51 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:50 DidYuhim wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:48 DidYuhim wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:46 LimitSEA wrote:
[quote]
But it's Shine. Jesus. What planet am I living on?

Somehow, Maru is the OSL champion.

It's the planet we live on.


Still better than Jjakji or Seed winning GSL.

Nah, it's somewhere around Sniper winning GSL.


And Sniper winning GSL is still better than Jjakji or Seed winning GSL. Because Sniper actually played very well that season.

Implying that jjakji didn't play really well and just lucked his way to championship?


With the sole exception of the finals, that is very much what I am implying.

I mean I give NesTea a lot of flak but at least his wins were always convincing. Jjakji barely scraped through to reach the finals and delivered a lot of mediocre/uninspired games.

Except it's bullshit. His game v Killer in the Ro32? Awesome, even if he ended up losing, relentless. His game v Supernova in the same group is still one of the most amazing TvTs ever. Sure he lucked out in the Ro16 and only had to beat Gumi, and both his games v Mvp and Gumi were pretty scrappy and bad. But there's no way you can say his games v Oz weren't interesting at least, and even if he stomped Puzzle it was not because of Puzzle being bad, but jjakji being good.


I disagree. Puzzle played like shit (like in every other Ro8 appearance he had) and the games vs Oz were some of the worst PvT I've ever watched. On paper Oz should've won that 3-0, but he made lots of mistakes and ended up losing. And I guarantee that if CoCa had took part in Code S Jjakji would have never made it to Playoffs.


Jjakji-Leenock still delivered the best finals in terms of games. He did get good draws and lucky consequences. Then again, so did Sniper. Seed actually beat very good opponents and various races, etc. At least Jjakji is more relevant than Sniper now.


Sniper got good draws? You think MarineKing, sHy, Seed himself, then Bogus, Polt and PartinG are good draws? Leenock, the infinitely underrated Ryung and then Hyun? This is what you call a good draw?

On top of all that he was completely destroying team leagues both online and offline (GSTL) during 2012.

So no, I really don't see your point here, sorry. :/
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Raambo11
Profile Joined April 2011
United States828 Posts
August 15 2013 12:10 GMT
#545
Just looked at artosis twitter, hes rooting for shine. Sorry guys no 5 way tie.
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
August 15 2013 12:10 GMT
#546
On August 15 2013 21:07 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 21:05 Destructicon wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:51 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:50 DidYuhim wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:48 DidYuhim wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:46 LimitSEA wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:44 Fusilero wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:43 LimitSEA wrote:
Omg. I can't believe KangHo lost to Shine.

The disbelief fuels shine.

But it's Shine. Jesus. What planet am I living on?

Somehow, Maru is the OSL champion.

It's the planet we live on.


Still better than Jjakji or Seed winning GSL.

Nah, it's somewhere around Sniper winning GSL.


And Sniper winning GSL is still better than Jjakji or Seed winning GSL. Because Sniper actually played very well that season.


Don't disrespect Seed and Jjakji, they played brilliantly to win their respective championships and had to go trough tough opponents. Seed's run in particular was amazing, defeated Symbol trough a reverse sweep 3-2, defeated Byun the same way, 3-2 displaying incredible mental fortitude and patience and in the grand final he dismantled MC displaying superior knowledge of PvP at the time and brilliant micro.

Too many people here have the nerve to downplay the efforts of the past champions, they may have only shone for 2 months but they where the best players of those two months, give them the respect they deserve.

On topic, interesting game from effort and Hurricane, really crazy scenario, its a bit too bad effort didn't read the situation better, I think he could have crushed that 2 base push, though I guess Hurricane was banking on forcing lots of units and recalling out if the situation went sour. Still glad effort won.


"superior knowledge of PvP", aka 4 gate.

I agree 100% though, it's easy to laugh at "washed up" champions now, but a win is a win, and no matter how you get there, winning code s is god damn hard.

No-one is saying that Seed/Jjakji/Sniper etc are better than Mvp. But at the time of their respective championships, they were.

It was Warp Prism + 4gate.

Not just 4gate!!
paradoxOO9
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1123 Posts
August 15 2013 12:10 GMT
#547
I'm confused, if there isn't a 5 way tie who advances?
massivez
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium653 Posts
August 15 2013 12:10 GMT
#548
Fuck you Artosis
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
August 15 2013 12:11 GMT
#549
well, guess that means no tie. artosis curse :3
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
August 15 2013 12:11 GMT
#550
On August 15 2013 21:10 DJHelium wrote:
Dan Stemkoski ‏@Artosis 45s
First time in my life I'm rooting for Shine. GIVE ME MORE SC.



FUCK YES JJAKJI CODE S!


We will never get a five way tie
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 15 2013 12:11 GMT
#551
Dan Stemkoski ‏@Artosis 19s
@Khaldor @proxywolf hi! I think jjakji will win, hope shine wins tho Tt
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 15 2013 12:11 GMT
#552
DAMN HELL ARTOSIS
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
August 15 2013 12:11 GMT
#553
On August 15 2013 21:10 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 21:07 Thrillz wrote:
On August 15 2013 21:04 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 15 2013 21:02 KristofferAG wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:56 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:54 KristofferAG wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:51 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:50 DidYuhim wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 15 2013 20:48 DidYuhim wrote:
[quote]
Somehow, Maru is the OSL champion.

It's the planet we live on.


Still better than Jjakji or Seed winning GSL.

Nah, it's somewhere around Sniper winning GSL.


And Sniper winning GSL is still better than Jjakji or Seed winning GSL. Because Sniper actually played very well that season.

Implying that jjakji didn't play really well and just lucked his way to championship?


With the sole exception of the finals, that is very much what I am implying.

I mean I give NesTea a lot of flak but at least his wins were always convincing. Jjakji barely scraped through to reach the finals and delivered a lot of mediocre/uninspired games.

Except it's bullshit. His game v Killer in the Ro32? Awesome, even if he ended up losing, relentless. His game v Supernova in the same group is still one of the most amazing TvTs ever. Sure he lucked out in the Ro16 and only had to beat Gumi, and both his games v Mvp and Gumi were pretty scrappy and bad. But there's no way you can say his games v Oz weren't interesting at least, and even if he stomped Puzzle it was not because of Puzzle being bad, but jjakji being good.


I disagree. Puzzle played like shit (like in every other Ro8 appearance he had) and the games vs Oz were some of the worst PvT I've ever watched. On paper Oz should've won that 3-0, but he made lots of mistakes and ended up losing. And I guarantee that if CoCa had took part in Code S Jjakji would have never made it to Playoffs.


Jjakji-Leenock still delivered the best finals in terms of games. He did get good draws and lucky consequences. Then again, so did Sniper. Seed actually beat very good opponents and various races, etc. At least Jjakji is more relevant than Sniper now.


Sniper got good draws? You think MarineKing, sHy, Seed himself, then Bogus, Polt and PartinG are good draws? Leenock, the infinitely underrated Ryung and then Hyun? This is what you call a good draw?

On top of all that he was completely destroying team leagues both online and offline (GSTL) during 2012.

So no, I really don't see your point here, sorry. :/

Patch 1.5.3 was the best draw you could get for a Zerg player.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9223 Posts
August 15 2013 12:11 GMT
#554
On August 15 2013 21:10 Tsubbi wrote:
fuck artosis is rotting for shine on twitter
Actually rooting for shine makes him stronger.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
August 15 2013 12:11 GMT
#555
We need to stop that man.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
August 15 2013 12:11 GMT
#556
And now Shine dies less than a minute after Artosis curse strikes
Liquipedia"Expert"
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
August 15 2013 12:11 GMT
#557
Haha Shine!
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
August 15 2013 12:12 GMT
#558
What is this map called again?
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
August 15 2013 12:12 GMT
#559
On August 15 2013 21:11 DJHelium wrote:
Dan Stemkoski ‏@Artosis 19s
@Khaldor @proxywolf hi! I think jjakji will win, hope shine wins tho Tt

What does this mean for the curse?
Long live the King of Wings
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9223 Posts
August 15 2013 12:12 GMT
#560
LOL WTF
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
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