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In our never-ending quest to destroy free speech, we have banned Twitch chat related memes.

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MosART
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1899 Posts
August 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1421
good thing Bomber likes to scout.
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
August 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1422
Tasteless didn't even get to say "expect gg"
Year of MaxPax
MrBrunk
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada428 Posts
August 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1423
Its activating... noooo
MiCa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States147 Posts
August 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1424
Playing games of Throw
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull sheet. - W. C. Fields
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1425
Bomber is such a tricky pony. Saw it vs First who crumbled vs proxy reapers and stuff, Rain will most likely not, he's just rock solid. Can already see frustration on Bombers face. Lets see if he pulls scvs now for timings
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1426
That was the same build Supernova used on Belshir, right?
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
tns
Profile Joined June 2011
1054 Posts
August 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1427
Gosh... T^T minerals where floating around 600
firebathero miss u♥! http://youtu.be/AXkoG9GnpcM - 1998/11/30 to 2001/05/18 BW stabilized! - WoL v.alpha HotS v.beta LotD v.gamma... summer 2017 SC3 (sc1remastered)
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
August 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1428
What the fuck happened? I closed the stream for like 3 minutes, at the point where the scouting Zealot died in Bombers base. I come back, Bomber down. FUCK HIS LAW!
Meself
Profile Joined February 2011
Estonia552 Posts
August 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1429
That counter-attack started while he was killing the hellions and marines...that multi-tasking.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
August 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1430
On August 01 2013 18:57 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 18:51 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:49 ZenithM wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:47 Zealously wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:45 RamboJesus wrote:
It is so obvious that mech is not viable in TvP. I'm not saying mech should be buffed. I'm just saying that Terran has one strat and one strat alone in TvP.


I'm pretty sure a mech buff would be fine as long as it wasn't plain +thor damage or some shit. More creative and less arbitrary numbers could work.

The thing is, Terran doesn't need any buff right now. And making more strats viable is a pretty strong buff in itself, other races have to be ready for more stuff. It would probably have to come with some kind of nerf. I'm not sure they would be willing to fuck up Terran as it is now just to buff mech :D


Buffing Mech doesn't have to affect Bio the two are completely exclusive playstyles.

It doesn't work like that. Every viable strat you add to a race, no matter how independant from the already available options, is something more your opponents have to prepare for. For example, let's say that some matchup is at 50% winrate but side A doesn't need to invest in scouting options because they know what side B is doing. Add a completely different offensive option to B and now A has to scout, hence possibly shifting the balance.

It's good for variety, but not so straightforward for balance.


By that logic, this game should have EXACTLY 1 playstyle that's viable per match up and players are only allowed to play that style every game in order to ensure the best possible balance we can ever have.

Please spare me. You can have your cake and eat it too. This game can have more diversity and still be balanced. Brood War managed to do it, WoL in its earlier iterations managed to do it. HoTS can do it also.

Pushing for more diversity in order to stave off the kind of metagame stagnation we saw at the end of WoL should be a priority. It's better for the players playing, and its better for the spectators. It just improves the game.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
August 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1431
that's our bomber
Everyday Girl's Day~!
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1432
Is that mozarts requiem serenading us into the games?
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
August 01 2013 10:00 GMT
#1433
On August 01 2013 18:58 shid0x wrote:
DAT FACE
you could see the strong rage on this one.

RAIN RAIN RAIN RAIN RAIN RAIN



Dude, he was clearing his mind, inner peace yo.
LiquipediaWanderer
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 01 2013 10:00 GMT
#1434
cmon bomber T_T
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 01 2013 10:00 GMT
#1435
On August 01 2013 18:56 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 18:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:54 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:51 VisonKai wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:50 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:47 Zealously wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:45 RamboJesus wrote:
It is so obvious that mech is not viable in TvP. I'm not saying mech should be buffed. I'm just saying that Terran has one strat and one strat alone in TvP.


I'm pretty sure a mech buff would be fine as long as it wasn't plain +thor damage or some shit. More creative and less arbitrary numbers could work.


Nerfing Hardened Shields does nothing vs Zerg .


wat.


As I said. it does nothing vs Zerg.

The only unit the Immortal is really needed against is the Roach, and Hardened Shields are not why Protoss uses Immortals vs Zerg. They use them for their damage.

Hardened Shields blocks 6 damage vs Roaches, it blocks 40 damage vs Siege Tanks.

Or if you want to be elegant about it you can do something like this:

Change Hardened Shields to a flat 50% damage reduction to all attacks on their shields greater than 10 damage to a minimum of 10 damage.

That'd mean Siege Tanks would do 25 damage instead of 10, Thors do 15 damage instead of 30 and Roaches stay the same.


The ultralisk.


Really dude?

Late game PvZ armies use Void Rays already as it is, and even if they don't the difference between Ultralisks and Siege Tanks is that Ultralisks are melee units so they need to actually close onto the Immortal to kill it, which can easily be stopped by just throwing Zealots in front to buffer while the Immortal deals its ridiculous anti-armored damage to kill it.

Even so, Ultralisks are almost never used vs Protoss since Swarm Hosts and Broodlords are superior late game units anyway.


Quod the fuck
Ultras feature every PvZ lategame now. Void rays don't cut it. Infestor/ultra/queen smashes any protoss army until you can stall long enough to get enough immortals out and even then they trade decently if you add vipers with blinding cloud.
HerO vs Jaedong game 2, good example.
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Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
August 01 2013 10:00 GMT
#1436
--- Nuked ---
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
August 01 2013 10:00 GMT
#1437
Dunno why bomber is trying to be cute. Just play macro.
Don't mind me
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11047 Posts
August 01 2013 10:00 GMT
#1438
If bomber wants to win, he should go back to the same antics as in Game 1. Push the game off balance and let his macro force Rain to keep on making the right choice.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
August 01 2013 10:00 GMT
#1439
To be honest, Bomber losing to Rain cannot really be considered a massive disappointment.
PerSe
Profile Joined June 2013
United Kingdom550 Posts
August 01 2013 10:00 GMT
#1440
T pulls scvs = win, T doesn't pull scv= lose?
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