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Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
July 04 2013 12:45 GMT
#1561
On July 04 2013 21:29 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 21:24 Eufouria wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:22 gobbledydook wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:20 Aiobhill wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:08 bo1b wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:07 Aiobhill wrote:
Without spending ~9000/6000 on Ultralisks that did virtually nothing, Zerg would have actually won while being outplayed for 45 minutes. Three sources of free units + movable static defense is dumb as eff.

In what way was he being outplayed? Rain must have lost 5k in failed harassment, and he won by slowly building up an army that zerg couldn't engage.


Against a protoss army about as mobile as a whale on an australian beach, zerg used no drops at all, no nydus at all, and no runbys till minute 41 or so. Instead he built swarm hosts, a forest of static defense and twiddled his thumbs. I play that way with 35 apm, really don't want to see it from pros.


are you suggesting that Australian beaches have greater friction than their counterparts in the world?
If true, that would be detrimental to tourism in Australia.

It's so hot that the whale actually melts into the beach.


It's freezing cold in Australia right now.

By Australian standards yo. It's 22C here in the hottest part of the country in the middle of our summer.
Cyrak
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada536 Posts
July 04 2013 12:45 GMT
#1562
On July 04 2013 21:18 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 21:16 Kommander wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:13 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:12 BlueFlames wrote:
ZvP theses days reminds me of TvT mech wars in BW and WoL. Its not bad.


I agree. People equate long standoff games as automatically boring, but they aren't as long as there are things happening around the map and positioning tactics.


It's mostly the free units that people are complaining about I think. Other than that, I like this match up now since it involves more action all over the map unlike Broodwar/Infestor in WoL.


But locusts aren't really free units, they are the weapon of the Swarm Host that you pay 200/100 for


This is some pretty low level sophistry here. Do you actually believe this?
Fortune favors the prepared mind.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
July 04 2013 12:45 GMT
#1563
On July 04 2013 21:44 opterown wrote:
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On July 04 2013 21:42 tomatriedes wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 opterown wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:29 TheDwf wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:28 artrea wrote:
Maru not handling these DTs too well

How do you handle DTs well when they come with your OCs having no energy?


I think he even saw the DT tech... just didn't respond to it by making turrets. He could have won that game...

he didn't see it


He did see the twilight council.

not everyone builds turrets when they see a twilight though

Imo he got confused because he saw robo+TC, so he thought blink + robo units. But still he saw a warp prism flying to him after that, insta turrets normally but Prime terrans will be Prime terrans.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
July 04 2013 12:46 GMT
#1564
On July 04 2013 21:43 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 21:42 tomatriedes wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 opterown wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:29 TheDwf wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:28 artrea wrote:
Maru not handling these DTs too well

How do you handle DTs well when they come with your OCs having no energy?


I think he even saw the DT tech... just didn't respond to it by making turrets. He could have won that game...

he didn't see it


He did see the twilight council.


Doa thought so too but then he checked it and nope


How could he miss it? the reaper went about an inch away from it.
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
July 04 2013 12:46 GMT
#1565
On July 04 2013 21:43 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 21:42 tomatriedes wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 opterown wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:29 TheDwf wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:28 artrea wrote:
Maru not handling these DTs too well

How do you handle DTs well when they come with your OCs having no energy?


I think he even saw the DT tech... just didn't respond to it by making turrets. He could have won that game...

he didn't see it


He did see the twilight council.

Which doesn't necessarily mean he's going to build a Dark shrine.


He saw the robo as well when scouting the twilight -> DT drop is pretty much the only build that it would be with those timings.
hundred thousand krouner
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
July 04 2013 12:46 GMT
#1566
On July 04 2013 21:46 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 21:43 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:42 tomatriedes wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 opterown wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:29 TheDwf wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:28 artrea wrote:
Maru not handling these DTs too well

How do you handle DTs well when they come with your OCs having no energy?


I think he even saw the DT tech... just didn't respond to it by making turrets. He could have won that game...

he didn't see it


He did see the twilight council.


Doa thought so too but then he checked it and nope


How could he miss it? the reaper went about an inch away from it.

maru defs saw the twilight but not the dark shrine
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 04 2013 12:46 GMT
#1567
On July 04 2013 21:45 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 21:44 opterown wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:42 tomatriedes wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 opterown wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:29 TheDwf wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:28 artrea wrote:
Maru not handling these DTs too well

How do you handle DTs well when they come with your OCs having no energy?


I think he even saw the DT tech... just didn't respond to it by making turrets. He could have won that game...

he didn't see it


He did see the twilight council.

not everyone builds turrets when they see a twilight though

Imo he got confused because he saw robo+TC, so he thought blink + robo units. But still he saw a warp prism flying to him after that, insta turrets normally but Prime terrans will be Prime terrans.

Maybe he didn't see him.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
July 04 2013 12:47 GMT
#1568
Goatrush? Hehe. Pretty funny name.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 12:48:09
July 04 2013 12:47 GMT
#1569
aww, no cheers for Doa and Monte

On July 04 2013 21:47 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Goatrush? Hehe. Pretty funny name.


GoRush*
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
July 04 2013 12:47 GMT
#1570
On July 04 2013 21:46 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 21:46 tomatriedes wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:43 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:42 tomatriedes wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 opterown wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:29 TheDwf wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:28 artrea wrote:
Maru not handling these DTs too well

How do you handle DTs well when they come with your OCs having no energy?


I think he even saw the DT tech... just didn't respond to it by making turrets. He could have won that game...

he didn't see it


He did see the twilight council.


Doa thought so too but then he checked it and nope


How could he miss it? the reaper went about an inch away from it.

maru defs saw the twilight but not the dark shrine


That's what I was saying. I never claimed it saw the dark shrine.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
July 04 2013 12:47 GMT
#1571
On July 04 2013 21:46 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 21:43 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:42 tomatriedes wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 opterown wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:29 TheDwf wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:28 artrea wrote:
Maru not handling these DTs too well

How do you handle DTs well when they come with your OCs having no energy?


I think he even saw the DT tech... just didn't respond to it by making turrets. He could have won that game...

he didn't see it


He did see the twilight council.


Doa thought so too but then he checked it and nope


How could he miss it? the reaper went about an inch away from it.

he has seen it 100% the reaper was in the probeline, he saw it. there's no way he didnt see it
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 04 2013 12:48 GMT
#1572
On July 04 2013 21:46 Zheryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 21:43 TheDwf wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:42 tomatriedes wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 opterown wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:29 TheDwf wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:28 artrea wrote:
Maru not handling these DTs too well

How do you handle DTs well when they come with your OCs having no energy?


I think he even saw the DT tech... just didn't respond to it by making turrets. He could have won that game...

he didn't see it


He did see the twilight council.

Which doesn't necessarily mean he's going to build a Dark shrine.


He saw the robo as well when scouting the twilight -> DT drop is pretty much the only build that it would be with those timings.

No, could be a Blink attack, could be standard.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
July 04 2013 12:48 GMT
#1573
On July 04 2013 21:47 Ammanas wrote:
aww, no cheers for Doa and Monte

Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 21:47 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Goatrush? Hehe. Pretty funny name.


GoRush*


Not as funny. He should have considered a name change.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
CikaZombi
Profile Joined August 2011
Serbia630 Posts
July 04 2013 12:49 GMT
#1574
That crash! BOOM!
You can no more evade my wrath, than you could your own shadow.
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
July 04 2013 12:49 GMT
#1575
On July 04 2013 21:45 Cyrak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 21:18 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:16 Kommander wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:13 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:12 BlueFlames wrote:
ZvP theses days reminds me of TvT mech wars in BW and WoL. Its not bad.


I agree. People equate long standoff games as automatically boring, but they aren't as long as there are things happening around the map and positioning tactics.


It's mostly the free units that people are complaining about I think. Other than that, I like this match up now since it involves more action all over the map unlike Broodwar/Infestor in WoL.


But locusts aren't really free units, they are the weapon of the Swarm Host that you pay 200/100 for


This is some pretty low level sophistry here. Do you actually believe this?


I've always thought of it that way. Swarm Hosts were introduced as a siege unit, so I always imagined the locusts as projectiles that are just slow and you can kill. I realize this is an... imaginative vision of it, but it beats whining about free units.
BoB_KiLLeR
Profile Joined September 2010
Spain620 Posts
July 04 2013 12:50 GMT
#1576
Shit he could have killed the Mcore :-/

Hellbat drops :3
Jindo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1305 Posts
July 04 2013 12:51 GMT
#1577
nice split
CikaZombi
Profile Joined August 2011
Serbia630 Posts
July 04 2013 12:51 GMT
#1578
Sexy defense thats for sure. Alot of effort went into that but it payed out
You can no more evade my wrath, than you could your own shadow.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51706 Posts
July 04 2013 12:51 GMT
#1579
trap is going to cream maru with this colossus timing
Commentator
artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
July 04 2013 12:52 GMT
#1580
maru has got to be massively behind after not doing much with his HBs
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