• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:34
CEST 11:34
KST 18:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 226ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon415.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation0
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon Is the larve respawn broken?
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 29 GSL CK #5 Race War RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch Data needed Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Summer Games Done Quick 2026! ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10195 users

[OSL] RO16 Day 2 WCS Korea Season 2 2013 - Page 79

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 77 78 79 80 81 88 Next
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
July 04 2013 12:45 GMT
#1561
On July 04 2013 21:29 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 21:24 Eufouria wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:22 gobbledydook wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:20 Aiobhill wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:08 bo1b wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:07 Aiobhill wrote:
Without spending ~9000/6000 on Ultralisks that did virtually nothing, Zerg would have actually won while being outplayed for 45 minutes. Three sources of free units + movable static defense is dumb as eff.

In what way was he being outplayed? Rain must have lost 5k in failed harassment, and he won by slowly building up an army that zerg couldn't engage.


Against a protoss army about as mobile as a whale on an australian beach, zerg used no drops at all, no nydus at all, and no runbys till minute 41 or so. Instead he built swarm hosts, a forest of static defense and twiddled his thumbs. I play that way with 35 apm, really don't want to see it from pros.


are you suggesting that Australian beaches have greater friction than their counterparts in the world?
If true, that would be detrimental to tourism in Australia.

It's so hot that the whale actually melts into the beach.


It's freezing cold in Australia right now.

By Australian standards yo. It's 22C here in the hottest part of the country in the middle of our summer.
Cyrak
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada536 Posts
July 04 2013 12:45 GMT
#1562
On July 04 2013 21:18 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 21:16 Kommander wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:13 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:12 BlueFlames wrote:
ZvP theses days reminds me of TvT mech wars in BW and WoL. Its not bad.


I agree. People equate long standoff games as automatically boring, but they aren't as long as there are things happening around the map and positioning tactics.


It's mostly the free units that people are complaining about I think. Other than that, I like this match up now since it involves more action all over the map unlike Broodwar/Infestor in WoL.


But locusts aren't really free units, they are the weapon of the Swarm Host that you pay 200/100 for


This is some pretty low level sophistry here. Do you actually believe this?
Fortune favors the prepared mind.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
July 04 2013 12:45 GMT
#1563
On July 04 2013 21:44 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 21:42 tomatriedes wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 opterown wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:29 TheDwf wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:28 artrea wrote:
Maru not handling these DTs too well

How do you handle DTs well when they come with your OCs having no energy?


I think he even saw the DT tech... just didn't respond to it by making turrets. He could have won that game...

he didn't see it


He did see the twilight council.

not everyone builds turrets when they see a twilight though

Imo he got confused because he saw robo+TC, so he thought blink + robo units. But still he saw a warp prism flying to him after that, insta turrets normally but Prime terrans will be Prime terrans.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
July 04 2013 12:46 GMT
#1564
On July 04 2013 21:43 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 21:42 tomatriedes wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 opterown wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:29 TheDwf wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:28 artrea wrote:
Maru not handling these DTs too well

How do you handle DTs well when they come with your OCs having no energy?


I think he even saw the DT tech... just didn't respond to it by making turrets. He could have won that game...

he didn't see it


He did see the twilight council.


Doa thought so too but then he checked it and nope


How could he miss it? the reaper went about an inch away from it.
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
July 04 2013 12:46 GMT
#1565
On July 04 2013 21:43 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 21:42 tomatriedes wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 opterown wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:29 TheDwf wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:28 artrea wrote:
Maru not handling these DTs too well

How do you handle DTs well when they come with your OCs having no energy?


I think he even saw the DT tech... just didn't respond to it by making turrets. He could have won that game...

he didn't see it


He did see the twilight council.

Which doesn't necessarily mean he's going to build a Dark shrine.


He saw the robo as well when scouting the twilight -> DT drop is pretty much the only build that it would be with those timings.
hundred thousand krouner
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 04 2013 12:46 GMT
#1566
On July 04 2013 21:46 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 21:43 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:42 tomatriedes wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 opterown wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:29 TheDwf wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:28 artrea wrote:
Maru not handling these DTs too well

How do you handle DTs well when they come with your OCs having no energy?


I think he even saw the DT tech... just didn't respond to it by making turrets. He could have won that game...

he didn't see it


He did see the twilight council.


Doa thought so too but then he checked it and nope


How could he miss it? the reaper went about an inch away from it.

maru defs saw the twilight but not the dark shrine
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 04 2013 12:46 GMT
#1567
On July 04 2013 21:45 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 21:44 opterown wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:42 tomatriedes wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 opterown wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:29 TheDwf wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:28 artrea wrote:
Maru not handling these DTs too well

How do you handle DTs well when they come with your OCs having no energy?


I think he even saw the DT tech... just didn't respond to it by making turrets. He could have won that game...

he didn't see it


He did see the twilight council.

not everyone builds turrets when they see a twilight though

Imo he got confused because he saw robo+TC, so he thought blink + robo units. But still he saw a warp prism flying to him after that, insta turrets normally but Prime terrans will be Prime terrans.

Maybe he didn't see him.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
July 04 2013 12:47 GMT
#1568
Goatrush? Hehe. Pretty funny name.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 12:48:09
July 04 2013 12:47 GMT
#1569
aww, no cheers for Doa and Monte

On July 04 2013 21:47 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Goatrush? Hehe. Pretty funny name.


GoRush*
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
July 04 2013 12:47 GMT
#1570
On July 04 2013 21:46 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 21:46 tomatriedes wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:43 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:42 tomatriedes wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 opterown wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:29 TheDwf wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:28 artrea wrote:
Maru not handling these DTs too well

How do you handle DTs well when they come with your OCs having no energy?


I think he even saw the DT tech... just didn't respond to it by making turrets. He could have won that game...

he didn't see it


He did see the twilight council.


Doa thought so too but then he checked it and nope


How could he miss it? the reaper went about an inch away from it.

maru defs saw the twilight but not the dark shrine


That's what I was saying. I never claimed it saw the dark shrine.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
July 04 2013 12:47 GMT
#1571
On July 04 2013 21:46 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 21:43 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:42 tomatriedes wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 opterown wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:29 TheDwf wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:28 artrea wrote:
Maru not handling these DTs too well

How do you handle DTs well when they come with your OCs having no energy?


I think he even saw the DT tech... just didn't respond to it by making turrets. He could have won that game...

he didn't see it


He did see the twilight council.


Doa thought so too but then he checked it and nope


How could he miss it? the reaper went about an inch away from it.

he has seen it 100% the reaper was in the probeline, he saw it. there's no way he didnt see it
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 04 2013 12:48 GMT
#1572
On July 04 2013 21:46 Zheryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 21:43 TheDwf wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:42 tomatriedes wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 opterown wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:35 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:29 TheDwf wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:28 artrea wrote:
Maru not handling these DTs too well

How do you handle DTs well when they come with your OCs having no energy?


I think he even saw the DT tech... just didn't respond to it by making turrets. He could have won that game...

he didn't see it


He did see the twilight council.

Which doesn't necessarily mean he's going to build a Dark shrine.


He saw the robo as well when scouting the twilight -> DT drop is pretty much the only build that it would be with those timings.

No, could be a Blink attack, could be standard.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
July 04 2013 12:48 GMT
#1573
On July 04 2013 21:47 Ammanas wrote:
aww, no cheers for Doa and Monte

Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 21:47 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Goatrush? Hehe. Pretty funny name.


GoRush*


Not as funny. He should have considered a name change.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
CikaZombi
Profile Joined August 2011
Serbia630 Posts
July 04 2013 12:49 GMT
#1574
That crash! BOOM!
You can no more evade my wrath, than you could your own shadow.
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
July 04 2013 12:49 GMT
#1575
On July 04 2013 21:45 Cyrak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 21:18 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:16 Kommander wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:13 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On July 04 2013 21:12 BlueFlames wrote:
ZvP theses days reminds me of TvT mech wars in BW and WoL. Its not bad.


I agree. People equate long standoff games as automatically boring, but they aren't as long as there are things happening around the map and positioning tactics.


It's mostly the free units that people are complaining about I think. Other than that, I like this match up now since it involves more action all over the map unlike Broodwar/Infestor in WoL.


But locusts aren't really free units, they are the weapon of the Swarm Host that you pay 200/100 for


This is some pretty low level sophistry here. Do you actually believe this?


I've always thought of it that way. Swarm Hosts were introduced as a siege unit, so I always imagined the locusts as projectiles that are just slow and you can kill. I realize this is an... imaginative vision of it, but it beats whining about free units.
BoB_KiLLeR
Profile Joined September 2010
Spain620 Posts
July 04 2013 12:50 GMT
#1576
Shit he could have killed the Mcore :-/

Hellbat drops :3
Jindo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1305 Posts
July 04 2013 12:51 GMT
#1577
nice split
CikaZombi
Profile Joined August 2011
Serbia630 Posts
July 04 2013 12:51 GMT
#1578
Sexy defense thats for sure. Alot of effort went into that but it payed out
You can no more evade my wrath, than you could your own shadow.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51638 Posts
July 04 2013 12:51 GMT
#1579
trap is going to cream maru with this colossus timing
Commentator
artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
July 04 2013 12:52 GMT
#1580
maru has got to be massively behind after not doing much with his HBs
Prev 1 77 78 79 80 81 88 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 26m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 229
ProTech110
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 38620
PianO 682
Hyuk 538
BeSt 259
Tasteless 250
Stork 223
Mong 190
actioN 139
Light 117
Larva 85
[ Show more ]
Dewaltoss 81
Mind 55
ToSsGirL 52
Aegong 52
Sharp 26
NaDa 18
Bale 17
Sacsri 15
IntoTheRainbow 14
sorry 8
Dota 2
Gorgc2072
League of Legends
JimRising 590
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1118
byalli156
Other Games
Sick228
Mew2King98
RuFF_SC230
BEARDiaguz13
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick22617
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 13
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota261
League of Legends
• Jankos4024
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
26m
Kung Fu Cup
1h 26m
Replay Cast
23h 26m
CrankTV Team League
1d 1h
OSC
1d 7h
Replay Cast
1d 14h
Replay Cast
1d 23h
CrankTV Team League
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
2 days
Serral vs Bunny
ByuN vs GgMaChine
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
RSL Revival
3 days
Solar vs Rogue
Maru vs NightMare
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22: Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.