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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 27 2013 20:11 GMT
#161
Damn this thread is depressing. Now I don't agree with Nerchio's BM (though it certainly does make things interesting), but seeing people call one of the most successful foreign progamers things like "dick" or "loser" while hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet is just disappointing.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
4tre55
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany330 Posts
June 27 2013 20:23 GMT
#162
On June 28 2013 05:11 Bagration wrote:
Damn this thread is depressing. Now I don't agree with Nerchio's BM (though it certainly does make things interesting), but seeing people call one of the most successful foreign progamers things like "dick" or "loser" while hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet is just disappointing.


Yeah, really not a big fan of nerchios in game personality, but this is a bit too much.
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-27 20:33:01
June 27 2013 20:32 GMT
#163
On June 28 2013 05:11 Bagration wrote:
Damn this thread is depressing. Now I don't agree with Nerchio's BM (though it certainly does make things interesting), but seeing people call one of the most successful foreign progamers things like "dick" or "loser" while hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet is just disappointing.


Ganging up on people of interest is just an easy way to get some spotlight, like 5 minutes of sad imagined anonymous fame. Your disappointed shall also be feasted upon as a way of recycling emotion. Nothing get lost!
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
June 27 2013 20:33 GMT
#164
On June 28 2013 04:21 Skyline026 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 04:09 4tre55 wrote:
On June 28 2013 03:54 Skyline026 wrote:
Losers have excuses, winners have a plan.


What kind of a lame phrase is that? And why would you call someone like Nerchio a loser, when he's clearly been one of the best foreign players around for a while now?



Stating you are not in progaming to win is like stating you are not in the bathroom to poo. Sure there is other stuff to do in there, but nothing is better than pooping and winning. Nice to see someone enjoying competition, but it's not PROgaming for nothing.

That was a shitty comparison.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
June 27 2013 20:59 GMT
#165
On June 28 2013 05:11 Bagration wrote:
Damn this thread is depressing. Now I don't agree with Nerchio's BM (though it certainly does make things interesting), but seeing people call one of the most successful foreign progamers things like "dick" or "loser" while hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet is just disappointing.

This is how reality works. If he cared he wouldnt have responded.
ColtraneL
Profile Joined December 2011
France248 Posts
June 27 2013 22:17 GMT
#166
On June 28 2013 05:33 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 04:21 Skyline026 wrote:
On June 28 2013 04:09 4tre55 wrote:
On June 28 2013 03:54 Skyline026 wrote:
Losers have excuses, winners have a plan.


What kind of a lame phrase is that? And why would you call someone like Nerchio a loser, when he's clearly been one of the best foreign players around for a while now?



Stating you are not in progaming to win is like stating you are not in the bathroom to poo. Sure there is other stuff to do in there, but nothing is better than pooping and winning. Nice to see someone enjoying competition, but it's not PROgaming for nothing.

That was a shitty comparison.


Both a nice pun and an accurate statement !
spiralkill
Profile Joined June 2012
United States17 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-27 23:50:25
June 27 2013 23:50 GMT
#167
Snute is doing a fantastic job representing the foreign scene atm so he's going to be a fan favorite and people will be upset.
For one thing everyone hates those passive-aggressive comments that attack someone with a smiley :DD.
What is that? At least idra was an obvious jerk.

That said I'm a Nerchio fan from WoL, but this just makes him out to look petty. In a competitive setting, you have to expect players to do what wins. When someone wins it's narcissistic to take away from their win. It was terrible timing and inappropriate.
Honestly I wish Nerchio the best and I want him to become relevant in the big tournament scene again, but don't you dare disrespect the foreigners that are hanging with the Koreans as if they are undeserving.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
June 28 2013 00:28 GMT
#168
On June 28 2013 05:11 Bagration wrote:
Damn this thread is depressing. Now I don't agree with Nerchio's BM (though it certainly does make things interesting), but seeing people call one of the most successful foreign progamers things like "dick" or "loser" while hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet is just disappointing.


Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here but I don't see why being a successful foreigner progamer makes you immune to being called a dick, especially if you do dick-ish things (I'd say consistently BMing your opponents is a pretty dickish thing to do). I also don't see what anonymity has to do with it. If someone acts like a dick then people will call him out on it. You reap what you sow.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
June 28 2013 00:30 GMT
#169
nerchio always delivers
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 28 2013 01:25 GMT
#170
On June 28 2013 09:28 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 05:11 Bagration wrote:
Damn this thread is depressing. Now I don't agree with Nerchio's BM (though it certainly does make things interesting), but seeing people call one of the most successful foreign progamers things like "dick" or "loser" while hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet is just disappointing.


Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here but I don't see why being a successful foreigner progamer makes you immune to being called a dick, especially if you do dick-ish things (I'd say consistently BMing your opponents is a pretty dickish thing to do). I also don't see what anonymity has to do with it. If someone acts like a dick then people will call him out on it. You reap what you sow.


Well, two rights don't make a wrong. Either call him out respectfully, but slinging insults ruins the discourse. I don't mind people telling him to lay off the BM, but using terms like "loser" is a bit excessive. Progamers play this game as a job, have a much deeper understanding of the game, and are heavily involved in the scene. They put themselves out there for our entertainment, so to see some kid on the Internet hide behind an anonymous ID sling mud at them is irritating.

Progamers are human and aren't immune to criticism, but show some basic respect (and this goes all people, but especially progamers). Don't suddenly get brave because we don't know your name.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 02:09:46
June 28 2013 02:08 GMT
#171
On June 28 2013 10:25 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 09:28 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 28 2013 05:11 Bagration wrote:
Damn this thread is depressing. Now I don't agree with Nerchio's BM (though it certainly does make things interesting), but seeing people call one of the most successful foreign progamers things like "dick" or "loser" while hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet is just disappointing.


Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here but I don't see why being a successful foreigner progamer makes you immune to being called a dick, especially if you do dick-ish things (I'd say consistently BMing your opponents is a pretty dickish thing to do). I also don't see what anonymity has to do with it. If someone acts like a dick then people will call him out on it. You reap what you sow.


Well, two rights don't make a wrong. Either call him out respectfully, but slinging insults ruins the discourse. I don't mind people telling him to lay off the BM, but using terms like "loser" is a bit excessive. Progamers play this game as a job, have a much deeper understanding of the game, and are heavily involved in the scene. They put themselves out there for our entertainment, so to see some kid on the Internet hide behind an anonymous ID sling mud at them is irritating.

Progamers are human and aren't immune to criticism, but show some basic respect (and this goes all people, but especially progamers). Don't suddenly get brave because we don't know your name.


pretty sure plenty of people here would have called him a loser or a dick in front of his face...it's not like he's someone to be afraid of...
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 28 2013 03:05 GMT
#172
On June 28 2013 11:08 ninjamyst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 10:25 Bagration wrote:
On June 28 2013 09:28 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 28 2013 05:11 Bagration wrote:
Damn this thread is depressing. Now I don't agree with Nerchio's BM (though it certainly does make things interesting), but seeing people call one of the most successful foreign progamers things like "dick" or "loser" while hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet is just disappointing.


Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here but I don't see why being a successful foreigner progamer makes you immune to being called a dick, especially if you do dick-ish things (I'd say consistently BMing your opponents is a pretty dickish thing to do). I also don't see what anonymity has to do with it. If someone acts like a dick then people will call him out on it. You reap what you sow.


Well, two rights don't make a wrong. Either call him out respectfully, but slinging insults ruins the discourse. I don't mind people telling him to lay off the BM, but using terms like "loser" is a bit excessive. Progamers play this game as a job, have a much deeper understanding of the game, and are heavily involved in the scene. They put themselves out there for our entertainment, so to see some kid on the Internet hide behind an anonymous ID sling mud at them is irritating.

Progamers are human and aren't immune to criticism, but show some basic respect (and this goes all people, but especially progamers). Don't suddenly get brave because we don't know your name.


pretty sure plenty of people here would have called him a loser or a dick in front of his face...it's not like he's someone to be afraid of...


Maybe. 12 year olds are pretty angsty
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Nedereden
Profile Joined June 2013
777 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 03:17:04
June 28 2013 03:12 GMT
#173
On June 27 2013 23:39 Nerchio wrote:
After the respones to what Snute said you can see most of this thread is fanboying so what's the point on responding to you when you guys can't even think for yourselves? Then you all ask questions why there is no progamers talking except TL stuff themselves :D

Nerchio <333

Lotsa fair weather douche bags here... Don't worry bro...

Anyone who BMs a player on a forum when they cant even lick his boots skill-wise is not worth your consideration!
What would they understand about commitment and sacrifice to SC? Nothing!! They can never put themselves in your shoes and hence the insensitive comments.

GL HF.

On June 28 2013 12:05 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 11:08 ninjamyst wrote:
On June 28 2013 10:25 Bagration wrote:
On June 28 2013 09:28 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 28 2013 05:11 Bagration wrote:
Damn this thread is depressing. Now I don't agree with Nerchio's BM (though it certainly does make things interesting), but seeing people call one of the most successful foreign progamers things like "dick" or "loser" while hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet is just disappointing.


Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here but I don't see why being a successful foreigner progamer makes you immune to being called a dick, especially if you do dick-ish things (I'd say consistently BMing your opponents is a pretty dickish thing to do). I also don't see what anonymity has to do with it. If someone acts like a dick then people will call him out on it. You reap what you sow.


Well, two rights don't make a wrong. Either call him out respectfully, but slinging insults ruins the discourse. I don't mind people telling him to lay off the BM, but using terms like "loser" is a bit excessive. Progamers play this game as a job, have a much deeper understanding of the game, and are heavily involved in the scene. They put themselves out there for our entertainment, so to see some kid on the Internet hide behind an anonymous ID sling mud at them is irritating.

Progamers are human and aren't immune to criticism, but show some basic respect (and this goes all people, but especially progamers). Don't suddenly get brave because we don't know your name.


pretty sure plenty of people here would have called him a loser or a dick in front of his face...it's not like he's someone to be afraid of...


Maybe. 12 year olds are pretty angsty

Spot on. Ha!
"Firefly piglet force staff chicken" - TobiWanKenobi TI3 2013
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
June 28 2013 03:29 GMT
#174
On June 28 2013 12:12 Nedereden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 23:39 Nerchio wrote:
After the respones to what Snute said you can see most of this thread is fanboying so what's the point on responding to you when you guys can't even think for yourselves? Then you all ask questions why there is no progamers talking except TL stuff themselves :D

Nerchio <333

Lotsa fair weather douche bags here... Don't worry bro...

Anyone who BMs a player on a forum when they cant even lick his boots skill-wise is not worth your consideration!
What would they understand about commitment and sacrifice to SC? Nothing!! They can never put themselves in your shoes and hence the insensitive comments.

GL HF.

Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 12:05 Bagration wrote:
On June 28 2013 11:08 ninjamyst wrote:
On June 28 2013 10:25 Bagration wrote:
On June 28 2013 09:28 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 28 2013 05:11 Bagration wrote:
Damn this thread is depressing. Now I don't agree with Nerchio's BM (though it certainly does make things interesting), but seeing people call one of the most successful foreign progamers things like "dick" or "loser" while hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet is just disappointing.


Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here but I don't see why being a successful foreigner progamer makes you immune to being called a dick, especially if you do dick-ish things (I'd say consistently BMing your opponents is a pretty dickish thing to do). I also don't see what anonymity has to do with it. If someone acts like a dick then people will call him out on it. You reap what you sow.


Well, two rights don't make a wrong. Either call him out respectfully, but slinging insults ruins the discourse. I don't mind people telling him to lay off the BM, but using terms like "loser" is a bit excessive. Progamers play this game as a job, have a much deeper understanding of the game, and are heavily involved in the scene. They put themselves out there for our entertainment, so to see some kid on the Internet hide behind an anonymous ID sling mud at them is irritating.

Progamers are human and aren't immune to criticism, but show some basic respect (and this goes all people, but especially progamers). Don't suddenly get brave because we don't know your name.


pretty sure plenty of people here would have called him a loser or a dick in front of his face...it's not like he's someone to be afraid of...


Maybe. 12 year olds are pretty angsty

Spot on. Ha!


Actually, if the BM was about his game play, you would be right. But the BM was mainly towards his attitude, so I am not sure how his skill in SC makes any difference.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
June 28 2013 06:37 GMT
#175
On June 28 2013 12:29 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 12:12 Nedereden wrote:
On June 27 2013 23:39 Nerchio wrote:
After the respones to what Snute said you can see most of this thread is fanboying so what's the point on responding to you when you guys can't even think for yourselves? Then you all ask questions why there is no progamers talking except TL stuff themselves :D

Nerchio <333

Lotsa fair weather douche bags here... Don't worry bro...

Anyone who BMs a player on a forum when they cant even lick his boots skill-wise is not worth your consideration!
What would they understand about commitment and sacrifice to SC? Nothing!! They can never put themselves in your shoes and hence the insensitive comments.

GL HF.

On June 28 2013 12:05 Bagration wrote:
On June 28 2013 11:08 ninjamyst wrote:
On June 28 2013 10:25 Bagration wrote:
On June 28 2013 09:28 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 28 2013 05:11 Bagration wrote:
Damn this thread is depressing. Now I don't agree with Nerchio's BM (though it certainly does make things interesting), but seeing people call one of the most successful foreign progamers things like "dick" or "loser" while hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet is just disappointing.


Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here but I don't see why being a successful foreigner progamer makes you immune to being called a dick, especially if you do dick-ish things (I'd say consistently BMing your opponents is a pretty dickish thing to do). I also don't see what anonymity has to do with it. If someone acts like a dick then people will call him out on it. You reap what you sow.


Well, two rights don't make a wrong. Either call him out respectfully, but slinging insults ruins the discourse. I don't mind people telling him to lay off the BM, but using terms like "loser" is a bit excessive. Progamers play this game as a job, have a much deeper understanding of the game, and are heavily involved in the scene. They put themselves out there for our entertainment, so to see some kid on the Internet hide behind an anonymous ID sling mud at them is irritating.

Progamers are human and aren't immune to criticism, but show some basic respect (and this goes all people, but especially progamers). Don't suddenly get brave because we don't know your name.


pretty sure plenty of people here would have called him a loser or a dick in front of his face...it's not like he's someone to be afraid of...


Maybe. 12 year olds are pretty angsty

Spot on. Ha!


Actually, if the BM was about his game play, you would be right. But the BM was mainly towards his attitude, so I am not sure how his skill in SC makes any difference.


Because fanboys are illogical.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
oneill12
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
June 28 2013 06:51 GMT
#176
Good job Taeja, TL and especially Snute!!!
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
June 28 2013 06:52 GMT
#177
Damn, so much drama in this thread about Nerchio. Had a nice read, thanks guys, thanks Nerchio :D
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