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* = ace. Last player on team can be chosen from the entire lineup, even if the player was eliminated before.
** = revive. Twice per season a team can revive a player that already was eliminated.
Poll: Head?Team Liquid (19) 70% Team Acer (8) 30% 27 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): Team Liquid
(Vote): Team Acer
Poll: Heart?Team Liquid (18) 56% Team Acer (14) 44% 32 total votes Your vote: Heart? (Vote): Team Liquid
(Vote): Team Acer
This is an automated list of Twitch VODs that overlap with the time frame of this match. They are from channels that often provide coverage of the Acer TeamStory Cup, but it is not guaranteed whether the VODs actually covered this match (when a channel broadcasts other stuff).
 TaKeTV: VOD Part 2
 OGamingTV: VOD Part 2 Part 3 Part 4
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/ru.png) SC2TV.ru: VOD
 TheArgieTV: VOD
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/pl.png) ZeddSC: VOD Part 2
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Hopefully, Nathanias will be there from the start so there will be no VODs missing later. Go Liquid!
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Can anyone post something about those upcoming games?
I am currently at work and not able to watch these.
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Why isn't this on teamliquid? 
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On June 27 2013 21:05 goswser wrote:Why isn't this on teamliquid?
So that you can't steal strategies from the best.
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Nathanias is on his way to Anaheim for MLG - So he will not cast in english. Dunno about an alternative :/
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Clanwar is on very short notice - so probably no English caster.
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France7248 Posts
TLO vs Nerchio on Newkirk Precinct
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Nerchio-TLO for the start.
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TLO never performed that well in team leagues
but this could be a good opportunity.
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biggest foreign teamleague without english stream and no stream event link on team liquid.
almost as fucking unbelievable as bo1 in wcs premier league.
thats just an inexcusable state for such a good competition, but nobody from taketv seems to care. I really dont understand this...
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Can nobody say something about the game?
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On June 27 2013 21:39 styLesdavis wrote:
Can nobody say something about the game?
ezpz
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On June 27 2013 21:39 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 21:39 styLesdavis wrote:
Can nobody say something about the game? ezpz
:D
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On June 27 2013 21:34 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
biggest foreign teamleague without english stream and no stream event link on team liquid.
almost as fucking unbelievable as bo1 in wcs premier league.
thats just an inexcusable state for such a good competition, but nobody from taketv seems to care. I really dont understand this...
Yep, it's pretty bad, I've tweeted so often at them in their past when they forgot to link their stream under the event etc., now there isn't even an event any more. If Sincitta wouldn't do the LR every time (thanks a lot!) the league's exposure would be even lower. Somehow they just don't understand at TakeTV that TL is your number 1 priority to get more viewers in sc and it's been this way for years now, how often is their stream under "Other Notable Streams" when they cover an event. But they don't seem to care so we shouldn't either I guess.
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Like your archievements over the last few months, Mr. Nerchio?
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On June 27 2013 21:41 styLesdavis wrote:
Like your archievements over the last few months, Mr. Nerchio?
What i am saying is people should stop hyping players like they are the best
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Where do you see any kind of hype in this thread?
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On June 27 2013 21:43 styLesdavis wrote:
Where do you see any kind of hype in this thread?
Overall, not here!
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Yeah. Could be. But its just a part of this fanboyism thing.
Anyways. Good luck for your 2nd match.
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France7248 Posts
Snute for Team Liquid now, they are playing on NA server (Snute is back in Korea it seems)
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I just want to see Scarlett vs Taeja!
I hope if they do another season they get a full time english caster and market it a bit better.
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On June 27 2013 21:45 Laryleprakon wrote:
I hope if they do another season they get a full time english caster and market it a bit better.
Imho Nathanias is the best caster you can get currently that works for (basically) nothing. TotalBiscuit said in the other thread that he might start to cast ATC again. They just need to accredit other English casters and coordinate it better to ensure there is always an English cast. Now that HSC is over they might have more resources for the ATC again.
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What did Nerchio just said before leaving game?
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On June 27 2013 22:01 SChlafmann wrote:
What did Nerchio just said before leaving game?
"gratz master of zvz!"
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MMA needed some tanks there. Taeja always made tanks in TvZ at HSC last weekend and specially against Snute.
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On June 27 2013 21:42 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 21:41 styLesdavis wrote:
Like your archievements over the last few months, Mr. Nerchio? What i am saying is people should stop hyping players like they are the best
You just gained so much respect from me for this.
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Canada16217 Posts
snute seems to be too good :D
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On June 27 2013 22:34 NovemberstOrm wrote:
snute seems to be too good :D
He's pretty good at making roaches. :D
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On June 27 2013 22:35 Boucot wrote:He's pretty good at making roaches. :D
Please blizzard unbuff spores so there is something more to the game than Snute outsmarting his opponents with roaches each game
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On June 27 2013 22:36 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 22:35 Boucot wrote:On June 27 2013 22:34 NovemberstOrm wrote:
snute seems to be too good :D He's pretty good at making roaches. :D Please blizzard unbuff spores so there is something more to the game than Snute outsmarting his opponents with roaches each game
But mass mutas wasn't very good either. 15 + 22 ? :D
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On June 27 2013 22:40 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 22:36 Nerchio wrote:On June 27 2013 22:35 Boucot wrote:On June 27 2013 22:34 NovemberstOrm wrote:
snute seems to be too good :D He's pretty good at making roaches. :D Please blizzard unbuff spores so there is something more to the game than Snute outsmarting his opponents with roaches each game But mass mutas wasn't very good either. 15 + 22 ? :D
It was bad, but not as bad as mass roaches, there is absolutely no way to outplay your opponent
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Austria24422 Posts
Can we stop flaming Nerchio everytime he enters a thread?
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On June 27 2013 22:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Can we stop flaming Nerchio everytime he enters a thread?
Nobody is flaming here! It's the first topic i think, at least we keep it alive not many people want to talk about the games without english stream ^^
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On June 27 2013 22:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Can we stop flaming Nerchio everytime he enters a thread?
no one is flaming him?
Acer revives Nerchio
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On June 27 2013 22:42 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 22:40 Boucot wrote:On June 27 2013 22:36 Nerchio wrote:On June 27 2013 22:35 Boucot wrote:On June 27 2013 22:34 NovemberstOrm wrote:
snute seems to be too good :D He's pretty good at making roaches. :D Please blizzard unbuff spores so there is something more to the game than Snute outsmarting his opponents with roaches each game But mass mutas wasn't very good either. 15 + 22 ? :D It was bad, but not as bad as mass roaches, there is absolutely no way to outplay your opponent
Yes it's pretty bad to see mass roaches every game. The player who techs should be rewarded.
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Austria24422 Posts
On June 27 2013 22:43 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 22:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Can we stop flaming Nerchio everytime he enters a thread? Nobody is flaming here! It's the first topic i think, at least we keep it alive not many people want to talk about the games without english stream ^^
GLHF vs Snute but I'm gonna have to ask you not to beat HerO please :D
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On June 27 2013 22:40 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 22:36 Nerchio wrote:On June 27 2013 22:35 Boucot wrote:On June 27 2013 22:34 NovemberstOrm wrote:
snute seems to be too good :D He's pretty good at making roaches. :D Please blizzard unbuff spores so there is something more to the game than Snute outsmarting his opponents with roaches each game But mass mutas wasn't very good either. 15 + 22 ? :D
I'd be ok with them being bad at first, but having upgrades to make them better vs bio air. Would give mutas a window in which they were useful.
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On June 27 2013 22:02 Nerchio wrote:
gg master of zvz
What happened to you being the best in the matchup? Remember Idra forfeiting against you in TL Open? Good times.
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An all-kill for Snute today!? 
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Sucks that there is no english stream. But these games are generally worth watching anyway.
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On June 27 2013 22:45 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 22:42 Nerchio wrote:On June 27 2013 22:40 Boucot wrote:On June 27 2013 22:36 Nerchio wrote:On June 27 2013 22:35 Boucot wrote:On June 27 2013 22:34 NovemberstOrm wrote:
snute seems to be too good :D He's pretty good at making roaches. :D Please blizzard unbuff spores so there is something more to the game than Snute outsmarting his opponents with roaches each game But mass mutas wasn't very good either. 15 + 22 ? :D It was bad, but not as bad as mass roaches, there is absolutely no way to outplay your opponent Yes it's pretty bad to see mass roaches every game. The player who techs should be rewarded.
It's actually pretty silly going mass roach when the enemy is going roaches as well. I'm just really fucking sick atm and shouldn't even be playing if we had more than 4 players
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I have no idea how much health the orange/red player has on ANY units. For the love of god Take please change this!
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On June 27 2013 22:51 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 22:45 Boucot wrote:On June 27 2013 22:42 Nerchio wrote:On June 27 2013 22:40 Boucot wrote:On June 27 2013 22:36 Nerchio wrote:On June 27 2013 22:35 Boucot wrote:On June 27 2013 22:34 NovemberstOrm wrote:
snute seems to be too good :D He's pretty good at making roaches. :D Please blizzard unbuff spores so there is something more to the game than Snute outsmarting his opponents with roaches each game But mass mutas wasn't very good either. 15 + 22 ? :D It was bad, but not as bad as mass roaches, there is absolutely no way to outplay your opponent Yes it's pretty bad to see mass roaches every game. The player who techs should be rewarded. It's actually pretty silly going mass roach when the enemy is going roaches as well. I'm just really fucking sick atm and shouldn't even be playing if we had more than 4 players
Hope you feel better soon.
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On June 27 2013 22:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Can we stop flaming Nerchio everytime he enters a thread?
Can we stop being whiteknights for people who aren't even receiving the tiniest bit of flame or attacks?
Snute has been looking in top shape lately though. Would be great to see him close this one out. ^^
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France7248 Posts
MMA not confident today, Scarlett sick/tired, Bly came back home too late so Nerchio got to play Snute 3 times even though he really doesn't like him
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Wait Nerchio is playing AGAIN? okay.
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Aww, I wanted to see MMA for the ace
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On June 27 2013 23:05 Maasked wrote:
Wait Nerchio is playing AGAIN? okay.
Hm, a strange decision.
Why not MMA?
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Kaoru just said they can't use revive anymore as they have used it twice so far (one for MMA and one for Nerchio here). But MVP has used it three times (twice for duckdeok, once for TAiLS).
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On June 27 2013 23:03 Yhamm wrote:
MMA not confident today, Scarlett sick/tired, Bly came back home too late so Nerchio got to play Snute 3 times even though he really doesn't like him
It's unfortunate for Acer but hey, what can you do... at least it's not an offline league that requires even more commitment.
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Stupid question I'm sure, but no english stream?
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On June 27 2013 22:55 Gowerly wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 22:51 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:On June 27 2013 22:45 Boucot wrote:On June 27 2013 22:42 Nerchio wrote:On June 27 2013 22:40 Boucot wrote:On June 27 2013 22:36 Nerchio wrote:On June 27 2013 22:35 Boucot wrote:On June 27 2013 22:34 NovemberstOrm wrote:
snute seems to be too good :D He's pretty good at making roaches. :D Please blizzard unbuff spores so there is something more to the game than Snute outsmarting his opponents with roaches each game But mass mutas wasn't very good either. 15 + 22 ? :D It was bad, but not as bad as mass roaches, there is absolutely no way to outplay your opponent Yes it's pretty bad to see mass roaches every game. The player who techs should be rewarded. It's actually pretty silly going mass roach when the enemy is going roaches as well. I'm just really fucking sick atm and shouldn't even be playing if we had more than 4 players Hope you feel better soon.
Thanks 
Just to elaborate a bit; if you go same style with gasless into roach and add infestor pit with like 2-4 infestors only and then many roach; you should be able to defend because of defenders advantage (faster rally) as well as spine/queens for defense.
You can easily spot their drone count at 3rd with overseer to tell if they're gonna just make a ton of roach randomly ~_~ Just I ended up being behind for no real reason in the game because I'm playing poorly.. somehow lost 1st overlord in the path I always send it this map~ probably sent it slightly wrong so it took longer etc
t-t
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On June 27 2013 23:06 Boucot wrote:
Kaoru just said they can't use revive anymore as they have used it twice so far (one for MMA and one for Nerchio here). But MVP has used it three times (twice for duckdeok, once for TAiLS).
Yeah, the third time for MVP should not have been allowed. The Karont3 games were not nullified, so the joker that MVP used against Karont3 should have counted.
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On June 27 2013 23:10 Amestir wrote:
Stupid question I'm sure, but no english stream?
No, apparently Nathanias is on his way to MLG and obviously cannot provide casting for the event.
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Would be evil if they revive snute now over and over too, if he loses to nerchio.
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Edit: Ah, already covered
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R.I.P RiP
btw nerchio effin bm
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HAHAHA but yeah saw RIP lagging out alot lately poor person.
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Just FYI Nerchio, the smileys dont make you seem like any less of a dick than you are being right now...
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Poor Nerchio. Roaches are sometimes food.
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On June 27 2013 23:14 FeyFey wrote:
HAHAHA but yeah saw RIP lagging out alot lately poor person.
Yeah, pretty much every day. xD
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RiP #1 lag bingo. In which European SC2 event did he not lag yet? :p
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On June 27 2013 23:16 SinCitta wrote:
RiP #1 lag bingo. In which European SC2 event did he not lag yet? :p
Is he the new Argie(?)?
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On June 27 2013 23:05 Maasked wrote:
Wait Nerchio is playing AGAIN? okay.
Nobody wants to play vs Snute :S
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Take casting underwater now. I like it.
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MMA is back in Korea right? Think he was in Europe when he was crushing this league, probably was a factor in his loss today.
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Wow Nerchio. Goodbye indeed, only took you three tries
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lol bm'd him right out of the game XD
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On June 27 2013 23:20 YoungTyTy wrote:
Wow Nerchio. Goodbye indeed, only took you three tries
Only took me enough roaches :D
On June 27 2013 23:15 Maasked wrote:
Just FYI Nerchio, the smileys dont make you seem like any less of a dick than you are being right now...
I don't know if it's my good point or bad, but i like to call things by name.
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On June 27 2013 23:19 Gorlin wrote:
MMA is back in Korea right? Think he was in Europe when he was crushing this league, probably was a factor in his loss today.
Yes he is, GSTL tomorrow.
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On June 27 2013 23:19 Nerchio wrote:Nobody wants to play vs Snute :S
Nobody really wants to see you be a dick to someone for doing a strategy that WORKS either.
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BMing after losing twice. Classy.
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On June 27 2013 23:20 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 23:20 YoungTyTy wrote:
Wow Nerchio. Goodbye indeed, only took you three tries Only took me enough roaches :D Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 23:15 Maasked wrote:
Just FYI Nerchio, the smileys dont make you seem like any less of a dick than you are being right now... I don't know if it's my good point or bad, but i like to call things by name.
Why are you apparently a dick? :x
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Lol Nerchio, i still wonder why you always act like a douche all the time...
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On the plus side, at least Nerchio still has the ability to win A game
Edit: On June 27 2013 23:11 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 23:10 Amestir wrote:
Stupid question I'm sure, but no english stream? No, apparently Nathanias is on his way to MLG and obviously cannot provide casting for the event.
I miss when TB casted and posted VODs :/
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Don't be little Sissys guys! :D
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HotS is funny again with the old Fungal damage, 5 Fungals for a Roach 3 for Hydras. But the Banelings don't die to one Fungal anymore was already a funny change.
Wonder if muscular augmented hydras would be op with 10 extra hp.
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I would love to see TL reviving Snute. Snute-Nerchio BO5 gogo.
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Did Take say that Ret was up next?
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On June 27 2013 23:23 AlgeriaT wrote:
Did Take say that Ret was up next?
Nope, TaeJa.
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On June 27 2013 23:23 Boucot wrote:
I would love to see TL reviving Snute. Snute-Nerchio BO5 gogo.
Just to make Nerchio angry. Yes YES YESYES
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On June 27 2013 23:20 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 23:20 YoungTyTy wrote:
Wow Nerchio. Goodbye indeed, only took you three tries Only took me enough roaches :D Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 23:15 Maasked wrote:
Just FYI Nerchio, the smileys dont make you seem like any less of a dick than you are being right now... I don't know if it's my good point or bad, but i like to call things by name.
When you can't whine about imbalance, whine about your opponent making more of a unit that you can make.
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What did nerchio say against snute?
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On June 27 2013 23:26 ibo422 wrote:
What did nerchio say against snute?
first he complained about snute making roaches and then when he won he said "Goodbye snute"
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On June 27 2013 23:24 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
TaeJa is up
looks like Nerchio is dead~~~ bring that BM sucker down!
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On June 27 2013 23:26 ibo422 wrote:
What did nerchio say against snute?
During lag, try a different unit compostion sometime, or something like that.
At the end of the game, "Goodbye Snute"
After losing twice in a row of course
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On June 27 2013 23:26 ibo422 wrote:
What did nerchio say against snute?
He is just complaining about anything and everything.
Loses to Snute 2 times in a row, bms him for his build both times.
Beats Snute in a 3rd game (barely) and BM's him to get out of the game
The entire time Snute stays manner.
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On June 27 2013 23:24 Maasked wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 23:23 Boucot wrote:
I would love to see TL reviving Snute. Snute-Nerchio BO5 gogo. Just to make Nerchio angry. Yes YES YESYES
Angry Nerchio is still not good enough to beat Tajea most days. Prolly just gonna be more angry getting mass mannermuled.
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On June 27 2013 23:26 ibo422 wrote:
What did nerchio say against snute?
Edit: I was to slow :\
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i can never tell how much hp a unit has with those team colored healthbars
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Oops, I forgot this was a Bo9. Go Taeja!
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Now this should actually be quite funny, because both are good at BMing their opponent out of the game . I hope nerchio takes it and it goes to the ace match.
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Taeja going for helldrops, got some good HPM
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On June 27 2013 23:31 Musicus wrote:Now this should actually be quite funny, because both are good at BMing their opponent out of the game . I hope nerchio takes it and it goes to the ace match.
But I want to see Taeja drop mules so Nerchio can whine about how terran BM is imbalanced.
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Poor Nerchio is getting a lot of flack in this thread.
Also, Acer needs a deeper roster. Relying on 3 key players is hard, even with all these revives.
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Wow, pretty sick play by taeja to just kill the hatch.
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Wow... those hellbats charged into the natural like it was mass roach or something O_O
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On June 27 2013 23:35 Liquid`Snute wrote:
Wow... those hellbats charged into the natural like it was mass roach or something O_O
Hahahahahahaha
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On June 27 2013 23:33 Bagration wrote:
Poor Nerchio is getting a lot of flack in this thread.
Also, Acer needs a deeper roster. Relying on 3 key players is hard, even with all these revives.
how can a person who is totally BM be a poor guy if he gets what he deserves for his actions? its not even much.
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On June 27 2013 23:35 Liquid`Snute wrote:
Wow... those hellbats charged into the natural like it was mass roach or something O_O
They see him trollin', they hatin'!
GG :D
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Hehe, ty for the replies. Oh well, no serious bm towards snute, just the usual balance whinish bm from him! But yeah, snute shouldn't be bm'd, too kind for it.
Anyways gogo acer!
edit: lawl, allready lost! /o\
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gg wp, poor nerchio, acer not in top form today, but gratz TL!
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On June 27 2013 23:35 Liquid`Snute wrote:
Wow... those hellbats charged into the natural like it was mass roach or something O_O
Haha! Well played sir, and good games as well.... so close to taking the full 5!
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On June 27 2013 23:35 Liquid`Snute wrote:
Wow... those hellbats charged into the natural like it was mass roach or something O_O
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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On June 27 2013 23:35 Liquid`Snute wrote:
Wow... those hellbats charged into the natural like it was mass roach or something O_O
Hahahahah!
gg Liquid!
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On June 27 2013 23:35 Liquid`Snute wrote:
Wow... those hellbats charged into the natural like it was mass roach or something O_O
Pure gold, just brilliant 
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oh noes mouz is spot 6, darn it.
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I like how Take always says TeamLiquidPro instead of Teamliquid.
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After the respones to what Snute said you can see most of this thread is fanboying so what's the point on responding to you when you guys can't even think for yourselves? Then you all ask questions why there is no progamers talking except TL stuff themselves :D
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On June 27 2013 23:35 Liquid`Snute wrote:
Wow... those hellbats charged into the natural like it was mass roach or something O_O
Sick burn.
You've been doing great lately man, keep it up!
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On June 27 2013 23:39 Nerchio wrote:
After the respones to what Snute said you can see most of this thread is fanboying so what's the point on responding to you when you guys can't even think for yourselves? Then you all ask questions why there is no progamers talking except TL stuff themselves :D
Maybe you should act courteous at least to your opponent, if you want to be treated kindly.
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On June 27 2013 23:39 Nerchio wrote:
After the respones to what Snute said you can see most of this thread is fanboying so what's the point on responding to you when you guys can't even think for yourselves? Then you all ask questions why there is no progamers talking except TL stuff themselves :D
There's a difference between talking and talking shit...
Moron..
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On June 27 2013 23:39 Nerchio wrote:
After the respones to what Snute said you can see most of this thread is fanboying so what's the point on responding to you when you guys can't even think for yourselves? Then you all ask questions why there is no progamers talking except TL stuff themselves :D
You say things that annoy people, and then claim that it's everyone else's fault when they call you on it. What planet do you live on. If you show no respect to others, you're not going to receive it back. I'm saying this as someone who doesn't want you to keep getting hate, even though I'm hating on you. If you just change your attitude and respect your opponents, you'll get that respect from fans.
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On June 27 2013 23:39 Nerchio wrote:
After the respones to what Snute said you can see most of this thread is fanboying so what's the point on responding to you when you guys can't even think for yourselves? Then you all ask questions why there is no progamers talking except TL stuff themselves :D
or maybe it's funny? what you say makes no sense.
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On June 27 2013 23:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 23:35 Liquid`Snute wrote:
Wow... those hellbats charged into the natural like it was mass roach or something O_O Sick burn. You've been doing great lately man, keep it up!
"sick burn"
Pun intended, please say pun intended
More on topic, damn Snute is good! He's been drinking that TLO Cool Aid, damn!
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On June 27 2013 23:36 Tppz! wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 23:33 Bagration wrote:
Poor Nerchio is getting a lot of flack in this thread.
Also, Acer needs a deeper roster. Relying on 3 key players is hard, even with all these revives. how can a person who is totally BM be a poor guy if he gets what he deserves for his actions? its not even much.
I'm not defending his BM, as I think it's stupid. But people calling him dicks is equally stupid (perhaps even more since Nerchio is an accomplished Progamer and they're anonymous Internet posters). Two wrongs don't make a right, and while Nerchio was in the wrong, we shouldn't be slinging insults at progamers.
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thats actually quite funny.. that means i don't consider it bm!
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On June 27 2013 23:39 Nerchio wrote:
After the respones to what Snute said you can see most of this thread is fanboying so what's the point on responding to you when you guys can't even think for yourselves? Then you all ask questions why there is no progamers talking except TL stuff themselves :D
I just thought it was a funny comment in response to your comments, especially after he just ignored them. If you came up with a good comeback I would probably laugh at it as well. It's funny because it's ironic and has good comedic timing, not because it came from the player I happen to be cheering for.
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On June 27 2013 23:42 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 23:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On June 27 2013 23:35 Liquid`Snute wrote:
Wow... those hellbats charged into the natural like it was mass roach or something O_O Sick burn. You've been doing great lately man, keep it up! "sick burn" Pun intended, please say pun intended More on topic, damn Snute is good! He's been drinking that TLO Cool Aid, damn!
Thank you for catching that! XD
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On June 27 2013 23:39 Nerchio wrote:
After the respones to what Snute said you can see most of this thread is fanboying so what's the point on responding to you when you guys can't even think for yourselves? Then you all ask questions why there is no progamers talking except TL stuff themselves :D
I think people appreciate that you and Scarlett post in the threads and a lot of us enjoy your character and some showmanship/emotions in the games as well as in your posts. So just keep it up imo . This LR was definitely more fun with you!
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On June 27 2013 23:42 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 23:36 Tppz! wrote:On June 27 2013 23:33 Bagration wrote:
Poor Nerchio is getting a lot of flack in this thread.
Also, Acer needs a deeper roster. Relying on 3 key players is hard, even with all these revives. how can a person who is totally BM be a poor guy if he gets what he deserves for his actions? its not even much. I'm not defending his BM, as I think it's stupid. But people calling him dicks is equally stupid (perhaps even more since Nerchio is an accomplished Progamer and they're anonymous Internet posters). Two wrongs don't make a right, and while Nerchio was in the wrong, we shouldn't be slinging insults at progamers.
Maybe, sometimes people take it to far in response. But if someone whines and you call them a whiner for example, that's not wrong, that's just telling the truth. I agree, calling him a douche or other names is also wrong, but calling someone out is not necessarily wrong.
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On June 27 2013 23:44 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 23:39 Nerchio wrote:
After the respones to what Snute said you can see most of this thread is fanboying so what's the point on responding to you when you guys can't even think for yourselves? Then you all ask questions why there is no progamers talking except TL stuff themselves :D I think people appreciate that you and Scarlett post in the threads and a lot of us enjoy your character and some showmanship/emotions in the games as well as in your posts. So just keep it up imo . This LR was definitely more fun with you!
Agreed. I like when they post.
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On June 27 2013 23:45 YoungTyTy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 23:42 Bagration wrote:On June 27 2013 23:36 Tppz! wrote:On June 27 2013 23:33 Bagration wrote:
Poor Nerchio is getting a lot of flack in this thread.
Also, Acer needs a deeper roster. Relying on 3 key players is hard, even with all these revives. how can a person who is totally BM be a poor guy if he gets what he deserves for his actions? its not even much. I'm not defending his BM, as I think it's stupid. But people calling him dicks is equally stupid (perhaps even more since Nerchio is an accomplished Progamer and they're anonymous Internet posters). Two wrongs don't make a right, and while Nerchio was in the wrong, we shouldn't be slinging insults at progamers. Maybe, sometimes people take it to far in response. But if someone whines and you call them a whiner for example, that's not wrong, that's just telling the truth. I agree, calling him a douche or other names is also wrong, but calling someone out is not necessarily wrong.
So i am calling out Snute for his playstyle, what's wrong with that?
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On June 27 2013 23:47 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 23:45 YoungTyTy wrote:On June 27 2013 23:42 Bagration wrote:On June 27 2013 23:36 Tppz! wrote:On June 27 2013 23:33 Bagration wrote:
Poor Nerchio is getting a lot of flack in this thread.
Also, Acer needs a deeper roster. Relying on 3 key players is hard, even with all these revives. how can a person who is totally BM be a poor guy if he gets what he deserves for his actions? its not even much. I'm not defending his BM, as I think it's stupid. But people calling him dicks is equally stupid (perhaps even more since Nerchio is an accomplished Progamer and they're anonymous Internet posters). Two wrongs don't make a right, and while Nerchio was in the wrong, we shouldn't be slinging insults at progamers. Maybe, sometimes people take it to far in response. But if someone whines and you call them a whiner for example, that's not wrong, that's just telling the truth. I agree, calling him a douche or other names is also wrong, but calling someone out is not necessarily wrong. So i am calling out Snute for his playstyle, what's wrong with that?
Because it was snarky, and it was a winning playstyle. Why should he choose a different style if it wins 4 games in a row, that would be stupid. And your final comment was the more annoying one.
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It differs. Some come in and chat and it's fine. Scarlett's posts were well thought out and informative. Nerchio, you just came in expecting to be flamed and so it looked like you said things so that you would be flamed, as if to make your point. If you go looking for fanboyism and the thread to be against you, you will find it.
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On June 27 2013 23:42 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 23:36 Tppz! wrote:On June 27 2013 23:33 Bagration wrote:
Poor Nerchio is getting a lot of flack in this thread.
Also, Acer needs a deeper roster. Relying on 3 key players is hard, even with all these revives. how can a person who is totally BM be a poor guy if he gets what he deserves for his actions? its not even much. I'm not defending his BM, as I think it's stupid. But people calling him dicks is equally stupid (perhaps even more since Nerchio is an accomplished Progamer and they're anonymous Internet posters). Two wrongs don't make a right, and while Nerchio was in the wrong, we shouldn't be slinging insults at progamers.
Why shouldn't we be slinging insults at progamers? I mean sure we should not do it blindly or unfairly, but when someone says something that is clearly retarded I don't see a reason not to call it out in a LR thread. If a player can't handle that then they shouldn't act like Nerchio did, and should probably learn not to visit Internet discussion forums. I just can't follow Nerchio's reasoning. Snute did something effective 3 times in a row and Nerchio apparently knew it every time and had the option of mirroring or directly countering, yet he barely got 1 win and felt a need to bm over that one win. Maybe most progamers don't bother posting on TL, but the ones that do are generally treated well enough. For instance Scarlett often posts and I don't recall seeing her being insulted.
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On June 27 2013 23:47 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 23:45 YoungTyTy wrote:On June 27 2013 23:42 Bagration wrote:On June 27 2013 23:36 Tppz! wrote:On June 27 2013 23:33 Bagration wrote:
Poor Nerchio is getting a lot of flack in this thread.
Also, Acer needs a deeper roster. Relying on 3 key players is hard, even with all these revives. how can a person who is totally BM be a poor guy if he gets what he deserves for his actions? its not even much. I'm not defending his BM, as I think it's stupid. But people calling him dicks is equally stupid (perhaps even more since Nerchio is an accomplished Progamer and they're anonymous Internet posters). Two wrongs don't make a right, and while Nerchio was in the wrong, we shouldn't be slinging insults at progamers. Maybe, sometimes people take it to far in response. But if someone whines and you call them a whiner for example, that's not wrong, that's just telling the truth. I agree, calling him a douche or other names is also wrong, but calling someone out is not necessarily wrong. So i am calling out Snute for his playstyle, what's wrong with that?
Why would you complain when you can do the same playstyle?
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On June 27 2013 23:48 YoungTyTy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 23:47 Nerchio wrote:On June 27 2013 23:45 YoungTyTy wrote:On June 27 2013 23:42 Bagration wrote:On June 27 2013 23:36 Tppz! wrote:On June 27 2013 23:33 Bagration wrote:
Poor Nerchio is getting a lot of flack in this thread.
Also, Acer needs a deeper roster. Relying on 3 key players is hard, even with all these revives. how can a person who is totally BM be a poor guy if he gets what he deserves for his actions? its not even much. I'm not defending his BM, as I think it's stupid. But people calling him dicks is equally stupid (perhaps even more since Nerchio is an accomplished Progamer and they're anonymous Internet posters). Two wrongs don't make a right, and while Nerchio was in the wrong, we shouldn't be slinging insults at progamers. Maybe, sometimes people take it to far in response. But if someone whines and you call them a whiner for example, that's not wrong, that's just telling the truth. I agree, calling him a douche or other names is also wrong, but calling someone out is not necessarily wrong. So i am calling out Snute for his playstyle, what's wrong with that? Because it was snarky, and it was a winning playstyle. Why should he choose a different style if it wins 4 games in a row, that would be stupid.
The point is, I do that when he wins and he loses - with this playstyle he can lose to some random master zergs - who has macro good enough to mass roach as he does(and that happens) but also win the best in the world even if he practiced 10 times less than some korean would.
// I guess all this comes out of the fact we all look at e-sports in a different way. For me winning is not the final goal but competition itself is and your reasoning is "well if it works, it's good". If so, then i agree.
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This won't end well if we start using moron/retard alike words..
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On June 27 2013 23:50 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 23:48 YoungTyTy wrote:On June 27 2013 23:47 Nerchio wrote:On June 27 2013 23:45 YoungTyTy wrote:On June 27 2013 23:42 Bagration wrote:On June 27 2013 23:36 Tppz! wrote:On June 27 2013 23:33 Bagration wrote:
Poor Nerchio is getting a lot of flack in this thread.
Also, Acer needs a deeper roster. Relying on 3 key players is hard, even with all these revives. how can a person who is totally BM be a poor guy if he gets what he deserves for his actions? its not even much. I'm not defending his BM, as I think it's stupid. But people calling him dicks is equally stupid (perhaps even more since Nerchio is an accomplished Progamer and they're anonymous Internet posters). Two wrongs don't make a right, and while Nerchio was in the wrong, we shouldn't be slinging insults at progamers. Maybe, sometimes people take it to far in response. But if someone whines and you call them a whiner for example, that's not wrong, that's just telling the truth. I agree, calling him a douche or other names is also wrong, but calling someone out is not necessarily wrong. So i am calling out Snute for his playstyle, what's wrong with that? Because it was snarky, and it was a winning playstyle. Why should he choose a different style if it wins 4 games in a row, that would be stupid. The point is, I do that when he wins and he loses - with this playstyle he can lose to some random master zergs - who has macro good enough to mass roach as he does(and that happens) but also win the best in the world even if he practiced 10 times less than some korean would. Don't hate the player, hate the game?
I mean that in the serious sense where, if this is something that does work too often, does it not mean that the game itself needs to be fixed to not make it viable? In the end, you're playing to win, and if it works, why not do it?
Edit: and if, in the end, winning is not your final goal, then what is? You compete to win. I mean yes, winning at the exclusion of all else isn't necessarily a great life goal, but without people that will abuse the things that work like that, they won't be fixed.
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On June 27 2013 23:50 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 23:48 YoungTyTy wrote:On June 27 2013 23:47 Nerchio wrote:On June 27 2013 23:45 YoungTyTy wrote:On June 27 2013 23:42 Bagration wrote:On June 27 2013 23:36 Tppz! wrote:On June 27 2013 23:33 Bagration wrote:
Poor Nerchio is getting a lot of flack in this thread.
Also, Acer needs a deeper roster. Relying on 3 key players is hard, even with all these revives. how can a person who is totally BM be a poor guy if he gets what he deserves for his actions? its not even much. I'm not defending his BM, as I think it's stupid. But people calling him dicks is equally stupid (perhaps even more since Nerchio is an accomplished Progamer and they're anonymous Internet posters). Two wrongs don't make a right, and while Nerchio was in the wrong, we shouldn't be slinging insults at progamers. Maybe, sometimes people take it to far in response. But if someone whines and you call them a whiner for example, that's not wrong, that's just telling the truth. I agree, calling him a douche or other names is also wrong, but calling someone out is not necessarily wrong. So i am calling out Snute for his playstyle, what's wrong with that? Because it was snarky, and it was a winning playstyle. Why should he choose a different style if it wins 4 games in a row, that would be stupid. The point is, I do that when he wins and he loses - with this playstyle he can lose to some random master zergs - who has macro good enough to mass roach as he does(and that happens) but also win the best in the world even if he practiced 10 times less than some korean would.
Fair enough, that's not at all how it came across, though. In that context, it sounds like you're complaining about a strategy you can't beat, even though you can do the same thing. Either way, I don't think during a game is the time to bring it up.
You should just remember people do have different outlooks, like you said. Winning and only that is the goal for a lot of people. Besides, what does it gain you to point out that his strat is dumb. Just accept losses to it, and find a way to win. You should prove that you are the better player with your play not with your words.
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On June 27 2013 23:49 rasnj wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 23:42 Bagration wrote:On June 27 2013 23:36 Tppz! wrote:On June 27 2013 23:33 Bagration wrote:
Poor Nerchio is getting a lot of flack in this thread.
Also, Acer needs a deeper roster. Relying on 3 key players is hard, even with all these revives. how can a person who is totally BM be a poor guy if he gets what he deserves for his actions? its not even much. I'm not defending his BM, as I think it's stupid. But people calling him dicks is equally stupid (perhaps even more since Nerchio is an accomplished Progamer and they're anonymous Internet posters). Two wrongs don't make a right, and while Nerchio was in the wrong, we shouldn't be slinging insults at progamers. Why shouldn't we be slinging insults at progamers? I mean sure we should not do it blindly or unfairly, but when someone says something that is clearly retarded I don't see a reason not to call it out in a LR thread. If a player can't handle that then they shouldn't act like Nerchio did, and should probably learn not to visit Internet discussion forums. I just can't follow Nerchio's reasoning. Snute did something effective 3 times in a row and Nerchio apparently knew it every time and had the option of mirroring or directly countering, yet he barely got 1 win and felt a need to bm over that one win. Maybe most progamers don't bother posting on TL, but the ones that do are generally treated well enough. For instance Scarlett often posts and I don't recall seeing her being insulted.
you guys are complaining that Nerchio is BM and you insult him in return. you are doing worse than him...
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Austria24422 Posts
On June 27 2013 22:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Can we stop flaming Nerchio everytime he enters a thread?
You're a wizard, Olli!
Predicting the future isn't hard at all.
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On June 27 2013 23:47 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 23:45 YoungTyTy wrote:On June 27 2013 23:42 Bagration wrote:On June 27 2013 23:36 Tppz! wrote:On June 27 2013 23:33 Bagration wrote:
Poor Nerchio is getting a lot of flack in this thread.
Also, Acer needs a deeper roster. Relying on 3 key players is hard, even with all these revives. how can a person who is totally BM be a poor guy if he gets what he deserves for his actions? its not even much. I'm not defending his BM, as I think it's stupid. But people calling him dicks is equally stupid (perhaps even more since Nerchio is an accomplished Progamer and they're anonymous Internet posters). Two wrongs don't make a right, and while Nerchio was in the wrong, we shouldn't be slinging insults at progamers. Maybe, sometimes people take it to far in response. But if someone whines and you call them a whiner for example, that's not wrong, that's just telling the truth. I agree, calling him a douche or other names is also wrong, but calling someone out is not necessarily wrong. So i am calling out Snute for his playstyle, what's wrong with that?
There's absolutely no reason at all to "call him out for his playstyle" because it's a winning strategy. It's up to you to find a way to beat that strategy. And it is not like that strategy is some kind of risky cheese or anything, it still strains both his micro and macro abilities. So the thing is, you are using your frustration surrounding the game or how it turned out to attack Snute, and you have done this countless times to other players as well over the years. It's getting old and it is not really good for your reputation. It's fine to be a bit BM and to think of funny comments, but that wasn't it. And then you call us fanboys of Snute for not really responding to your attitude in a positive manner. You as a progamer posting here is great, but you can't expect some kind of immunity when you say stupid shit. You were being a dick towards your opponent, and you often are, it's just getting really really old...
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On June 27 2013 23:53 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 22:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Can we stop flaming Nerchio everytime he enters a thread? You're a wizard, Olli! Predicting the future isn't hard at all.
it was more epic without the self quote. should have added the one quoting you, saying to stop white knighting if nothing like that happens
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On June 27 2013 23:55 FeyFey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 23:53 DarkLordOlli wrote:On June 27 2013 22:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Can we stop flaming Nerchio everytime he enters a thread? You're a wizard, Olli! Predicting the future isn't hard at all. it was more epic without the self quote. should have added the one quoting you, saying to stop white knighting if nothing like that happens
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you just had to take it away from me, didn't you.
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On June 27 2013 23:49 rasnj wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 23:42 Bagration wrote:On June 27 2013 23:36 Tppz! wrote:On June 27 2013 23:33 Bagration wrote:
Poor Nerchio is getting a lot of flack in this thread.
Also, Acer needs a deeper roster. Relying on 3 key players is hard, even with all these revives. how can a person who is totally BM be a poor guy if he gets what he deserves for his actions? its not even much. I'm not defending his BM, as I think it's stupid. But people calling him dicks is equally stupid (perhaps even more since Nerchio is an accomplished Progamer and they're anonymous Internet posters). Two wrongs don't make a right, and while Nerchio was in the wrong, we shouldn't be slinging insults at progamers. Why shouldn't we be slinging insults at progamers? I mean sure we should not do it blindly or unfairly, but when someone says something that is clearly retarded I don't see a reason not to call it out in a LR thread. If a player can't handle that then they shouldn't act like Nerchio did, and should probably learn not to visit Internet discussion forums. I just can't follow Nerchio's reasoning. Snute did something effective 3 times in a row and Nerchio apparently knew it every time and had the option of mirroring or directly countering, yet he barely got 1 win and felt a need to bm over that one win. Maybe most progamers don't bother posting on TL, but the ones that do are generally treated well enough. For instance Scarlett often posts and I don't recall seeing her being insulted.
Calling anybody, much less a progamer, a "dick" is not constructive whatsoever. There's a difference between calling somebody out respectfully for BM, and slinging an insult.
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// I guess all this comes out of the fact we all look at e-sports in a different way. For me winning is not the final goal but competition itself is and your reasoning is "well if it works, it's good". If so, then i agree.
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On June 27 2013 23:55 FeyFey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 23:53 DarkLordOlli wrote:On June 27 2013 22:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Can we stop flaming Nerchio everytime he enters a thread? You're a wizard, Olli! Predicting the future isn't hard at all. it was more epic without the self quote. should have added the one quoting you, saying to stop white knighting if nothing like that happens
Nobody had flamed Nerchio when Olli made that post.
That he's brought it upon himself since then, well... that one's debatable.
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On June 28 2013 00:06 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 23:55 FeyFey wrote:On June 27 2013 23:53 DarkLordOlli wrote:On June 27 2013 22:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Can we stop flaming Nerchio everytime he enters a thread? You're a wizard, Olli! Predicting the future isn't hard at all. it was more epic without the self quote. should have added the one quoting you, saying to stop white knighting if nothing like that happens Nobody had flamed Nerchio when Olli made that post. That he's brought it upon himself since then, well... that one's debatable.
To be fair
On June 27 2013 21:41 styLesdavis wrote:
Like your archievements over the last few months, Mr. Nerchio?
had already happened.
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On June 27 2013 23:39 Musicus wrote:
I like how Take always says TeamLiquidPro instead of Teamliquid.
he says that because liquids twitter is @TeamliquidPro and not team liquid
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Does replay be upload soon ?
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On June 27 2013 23:47 Nerchio wrote:So i am calling out Snute for his playstyle, what's wrong with that?
I don't mind people arguing over each others playstyle, but the "goodbye snute" is just bm and you do stuff like that over and over again.
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On June 27 2013 23:59 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +
// I guess all this comes out of the fact we all look at e-sports in a different way. For me winning is not the final goal but competition itself is and your reasoning is "well if it works, it's good". If so, then i agree.
Losers have excuses, winners have a plan.
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On June 28 2013 03:54 Skyline026 wrote:
Losers have excuses, winners have a plan.
What kind of a lame phrase is that? And why would you call someone like Nerchio a loser, when he's clearly been one of the best foreign players around for a while now?
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On June 28 2013 04:09 4tre55 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 03:54 Skyline026 wrote:
Losers have excuses, winners have a plan. What kind of a lame phrase is that? And why would you call someone like Nerchio a loser, when he's clearly been one of the best foreign players around for a while now?
Stating you are not in progaming to win is like stating you are not in the bathroom to poo. Sure there is other stuff to do in there, but nothing is better than pooping and winning. Nice to see someone enjoying competition, but it's not PROgaming for nothing.
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On June 28 2013 03:54 Skyline026 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 23:59 Nerchio wrote:
// I guess all this comes out of the fact we all look at e-sports in a different way. For me winning is not the final goal but competition itself is and your reasoning is "well if it works, it's good". If so, then i agree.
Losers have excuses, winners have a plan.
Except i won much more than Snute.. yeah that makes sense
Also i never considered myself a progamer because I don't force myself to play the game, i take what i can
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On June 28 2013 04:40 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 03:54 Skyline026 wrote:On June 27 2013 23:59 Nerchio wrote:
// I guess all this comes out of the fact we all look at e-sports in a different way. For me winning is not the final goal but competition itself is and your reasoning is "well if it works, it's good". If so, then i agree.
Losers have excuses, winners have a plan. Except i won much more than Snute.. yeah that makes sense Also i never considered myself a progamer because I don't force myself to play the game, i take what i can
Why are you whining exactly? Cause snute goes roaches? Like almost every other zerg player in the competitive scene? Or because he has a specific roach build that is pretty strong? Because he doesn't use lings as much in the early game?
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On June 27 2013 23:39 Nerchio wrote:
After the respones to what Snute said you can see most of this thread is fanboying so what's the point on responding to you when you guys can't even think for yourselves? Then you all ask questions why there is no progamers talking except TL stuff themselves :D
cuz Snute made a funny comment and you are just a sad whiner?
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Damn this thread is depressing. Now I don't agree with Nerchio's BM (though it certainly does make things interesting), but seeing people call one of the most successful foreign progamers things like "dick" or "loser" while hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet is just disappointing.
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On June 28 2013 05:11 Bagration wrote:
Damn this thread is depressing. Now I don't agree with Nerchio's BM (though it certainly does make things interesting), but seeing people call one of the most successful foreign progamers things like "dick" or "loser" while hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet is just disappointing.
Yeah, really not a big fan of nerchios in game personality, but this is a bit too much.
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On June 28 2013 05:11 Bagration wrote:
Damn this thread is depressing. Now I don't agree with Nerchio's BM (though it certainly does make things interesting), but seeing people call one of the most successful foreign progamers things like "dick" or "loser" while hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet is just disappointing.
Ganging up on people of interest is just an easy way to get some spotlight, like 5 minutes of sad imagined anonymous fame. Your disappointed shall also be feasted upon as a way of recycling emotion. Nothing get lost!
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On June 28 2013 04:21 Skyline026 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 04:09 4tre55 wrote:On June 28 2013 03:54 Skyline026 wrote:
Losers have excuses, winners have a plan. What kind of a lame phrase is that? And why would you call someone like Nerchio a loser, when he's clearly been one of the best foreign players around for a while now? Stating you are not in progaming to win is like stating you are not in the bathroom to poo. Sure there is other stuff to do in there, but nothing is better than pooping and winning. Nice to see someone enjoying competition, but it's not PROgaming for nothing.
That was a shitty comparison.
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On June 28 2013 05:11 Bagration wrote:
Damn this thread is depressing. Now I don't agree with Nerchio's BM (though it certainly does make things interesting), but seeing people call one of the most successful foreign progamers things like "dick" or "loser" while hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet is just disappointing.
This is how reality works. If he cared he wouldnt have responded.
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On June 28 2013 05:33 Otolia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 04:21 Skyline026 wrote:On June 28 2013 04:09 4tre55 wrote:On June 28 2013 03:54 Skyline026 wrote:
Losers have excuses, winners have a plan. What kind of a lame phrase is that? And why would you call someone like Nerchio a loser, when he's clearly been one of the best foreign players around for a while now? Stating you are not in progaming to win is like stating you are not in the bathroom to poo. Sure there is other stuff to do in there, but nothing is better than pooping and winning. Nice to see someone enjoying competition, but it's not PROgaming for nothing. That was a shitty comparison.
Both a nice pun and an accurate statement !
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Snute is doing a fantastic job representing the foreign scene atm so he's going to be a fan favorite and people will be upset.
For one thing everyone hates those passive-aggressive comments that attack someone with a smiley :DD.
What is that? At least idra was an obvious jerk.
That said I'm a Nerchio fan from WoL, but this just makes him out to look petty. In a competitive setting, you have to expect players to do what wins. When someone wins it's narcissistic to take away from their win. It was terrible timing and inappropriate.
Honestly I wish Nerchio the best and I want him to become relevant in the big tournament scene again, but don't you dare disrespect the foreigners that are hanging with the Koreans as if they are undeserving.
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On June 28 2013 05:11 Bagration wrote:
Damn this thread is depressing. Now I don't agree with Nerchio's BM (though it certainly does make things interesting), but seeing people call one of the most successful foreign progamers things like "dick" or "loser" while hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet is just disappointing.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here but I don't see why being a successful foreigner progamer makes you immune to being called a dick, especially if you do dick-ish things (I'd say consistently BMing your opponents is a pretty dickish thing to do). I also don't see what anonymity has to do with it. If someone acts like a dick then people will call him out on it. You reap what you sow.
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On June 28 2013 09:28 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 05:11 Bagration wrote:
Damn this thread is depressing. Now I don't agree with Nerchio's BM (though it certainly does make things interesting), but seeing people call one of the most successful foreign progamers things like "dick" or "loser" while hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet is just disappointing. Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here but I don't see why being a successful foreigner progamer makes you immune to being called a dick, especially if you do dick-ish things (I'd say consistently BMing your opponents is a pretty dickish thing to do). I also don't see what anonymity has to do with it. If someone acts like a dick then people will call him out on it. You reap what you sow.
Well, two rights don't make a wrong. Either call him out respectfully, but slinging insults ruins the discourse. I don't mind people telling him to lay off the BM, but using terms like "loser" is a bit excessive. Progamers play this game as a job, have a much deeper understanding of the game, and are heavily involved in the scene. They put themselves out there for our entertainment, so to see some kid on the Internet hide behind an anonymous ID sling mud at them is irritating.
Progamers are human and aren't immune to criticism, but show some basic respect (and this goes all people, but especially progamers). Don't suddenly get brave because we don't know your name.
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On June 28 2013 10:25 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 09:28 HolyArrow wrote:On June 28 2013 05:11 Bagration wrote:
Damn this thread is depressing. Now I don't agree with Nerchio's BM (though it certainly does make things interesting), but seeing people call one of the most successful foreign progamers things like "dick" or "loser" while hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet is just disappointing. Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here but I don't see why being a successful foreigner progamer makes you immune to being called a dick, especially if you do dick-ish things (I'd say consistently BMing your opponents is a pretty dickish thing to do). I also don't see what anonymity has to do with it. If someone acts like a dick then people will call him out on it. You reap what you sow. Well, two rights don't make a wrong. Either call him out respectfully, but slinging insults ruins the discourse. I don't mind people telling him to lay off the BM, but using terms like "loser" is a bit excessive. Progamers play this game as a job, have a much deeper understanding of the game, and are heavily involved in the scene. They put themselves out there for our entertainment, so to see some kid on the Internet hide behind an anonymous ID sling mud at them is irritating. Progamers are human and aren't immune to criticism, but show some basic respect (and this goes all people, but especially progamers). Don't suddenly get brave because we don't know your name.
pretty sure plenty of people here would have called him a loser or a dick in front of his face...it's not like he's someone to be afraid of...
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On June 28 2013 11:08 ninjamyst wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 10:25 Bagration wrote:On June 28 2013 09:28 HolyArrow wrote:On June 28 2013 05:11 Bagration wrote:
Damn this thread is depressing. Now I don't agree with Nerchio's BM (though it certainly does make things interesting), but seeing people call one of the most successful foreign progamers things like "dick" or "loser" while hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet is just disappointing. Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here but I don't see why being a successful foreigner progamer makes you immune to being called a dick, especially if you do dick-ish things (I'd say consistently BMing your opponents is a pretty dickish thing to do). I also don't see what anonymity has to do with it. If someone acts like a dick then people will call him out on it. You reap what you sow. Well, two rights don't make a wrong. Either call him out respectfully, but slinging insults ruins the discourse. I don't mind people telling him to lay off the BM, but using terms like "loser" is a bit excessive. Progamers play this game as a job, have a much deeper understanding of the game, and are heavily involved in the scene. They put themselves out there for our entertainment, so to see some kid on the Internet hide behind an anonymous ID sling mud at them is irritating. Progamers are human and aren't immune to criticism, but show some basic respect (and this goes all people, but especially progamers). Don't suddenly get brave because we don't know your name. pretty sure plenty of people here would have called him a loser or a dick in front of his face...it's not like he's someone to be afraid of...
Maybe. 12 year olds are pretty angsty
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On June 27 2013 23:39 Nerchio wrote:
After the respones to what Snute said you can see most of this thread is fanboying so what's the point on responding to you when you guys can't even think for yourselves? Then you all ask questions why there is no progamers talking except TL stuff themselves :D
Nerchio <333
Lotsa fair weather douche bags here... Don't worry bro...
Anyone who BMs a player on a forum when they cant even lick his boots skill-wise is not worth your consideration!
What would they understand about commitment and sacrifice to SC? Nothing!! They can never put themselves in your shoes and hence the insensitive comments.
GL HF.
On June 28 2013 12:05 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 11:08 ninjamyst wrote:On June 28 2013 10:25 Bagration wrote:On June 28 2013 09:28 HolyArrow wrote:On June 28 2013 05:11 Bagration wrote:
Damn this thread is depressing. Now I don't agree with Nerchio's BM (though it certainly does make things interesting), but seeing people call one of the most successful foreign progamers things like "dick" or "loser" while hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet is just disappointing. Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here but I don't see why being a successful foreigner progamer makes you immune to being called a dick, especially if you do dick-ish things (I'd say consistently BMing your opponents is a pretty dickish thing to do). I also don't see what anonymity has to do with it. If someone acts like a dick then people will call him out on it. You reap what you sow. Well, two rights don't make a wrong. Either call him out respectfully, but slinging insults ruins the discourse. I don't mind people telling him to lay off the BM, but using terms like "loser" is a bit excessive. Progamers play this game as a job, have a much deeper understanding of the game, and are heavily involved in the scene. They put themselves out there for our entertainment, so to see some kid on the Internet hide behind an anonymous ID sling mud at them is irritating. Progamers are human and aren't immune to criticism, but show some basic respect (and this goes all people, but especially progamers). Don't suddenly get brave because we don't know your name. pretty sure plenty of people here would have called him a loser or a dick in front of his face...it's not like he's someone to be afraid of... Maybe. 12 year olds are pretty angsty
Spot on. Ha!
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On June 28 2013 12:12 Nedereden wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 23:39 Nerchio wrote:
After the respones to what Snute said you can see most of this thread is fanboying so what's the point on responding to you when you guys can't even think for yourselves? Then you all ask questions why there is no progamers talking except TL stuff themselves :D Nerchio <333 Lotsa fair weather douche bags here... Don't worry bro... Anyone who BMs a player on a forum when they cant even lick his boots skill-wise is not worth your consideration! What would they understand about commitment and sacrifice to SC? Nothing!! They can never put themselves in your shoes and hence the insensitive comments. GL HF. Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 12:05 Bagration wrote:On June 28 2013 11:08 ninjamyst wrote:On June 28 2013 10:25 Bagration wrote:On June 28 2013 09:28 HolyArrow wrote:On June 28 2013 05:11 Bagration wrote:
Damn this thread is depressing. Now I don't agree with Nerchio's BM (though it certainly does make things interesting), but seeing people call one of the most successful foreign progamers things like "dick" or "loser" while hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet is just disappointing. Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here but I don't see why being a successful foreigner progamer makes you immune to being called a dick, especially if you do dick-ish things (I'd say consistently BMing your opponents is a pretty dickish thing to do). I also don't see what anonymity has to do with it. If someone acts like a dick then people will call him out on it. You reap what you sow. Well, two rights don't make a wrong. Either call him out respectfully, but slinging insults ruins the discourse. I don't mind people telling him to lay off the BM, but using terms like "loser" is a bit excessive. Progamers play this game as a job, have a much deeper understanding of the game, and are heavily involved in the scene. They put themselves out there for our entertainment, so to see some kid on the Internet hide behind an anonymous ID sling mud at them is irritating. Progamers are human and aren't immune to criticism, but show some basic respect (and this goes all people, but especially progamers). Don't suddenly get brave because we don't know your name. pretty sure plenty of people here would have called him a loser or a dick in front of his face...it's not like he's someone to be afraid of... Maybe. 12 year olds are pretty angsty Spot on. Ha!
Actually, if the BM was about his game play, you would be right. But the BM was mainly towards his attitude, so I am not sure how his skill in SC makes any difference.
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On June 28 2013 12:29 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 12:12 Nedereden wrote:On June 27 2013 23:39 Nerchio wrote:
After the respones to what Snute said you can see most of this thread is fanboying so what's the point on responding to you when you guys can't even think for yourselves? Then you all ask questions why there is no progamers talking except TL stuff themselves :D Nerchio <333 Lotsa fair weather douche bags here... Don't worry bro... Anyone who BMs a player on a forum when they cant even lick his boots skill-wise is not worth your consideration! What would they understand about commitment and sacrifice to SC? Nothing!! They can never put themselves in your shoes and hence the insensitive comments. GL HF. On June 28 2013 12:05 Bagration wrote:On June 28 2013 11:08 ninjamyst wrote:On June 28 2013 10:25 Bagration wrote:On June 28 2013 09:28 HolyArrow wrote:On June 28 2013 05:11 Bagration wrote:
Damn this thread is depressing. Now I don't agree with Nerchio's BM (though it certainly does make things interesting), but seeing people call one of the most successful foreign progamers things like "dick" or "loser" while hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet is just disappointing. Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here but I don't see why being a successful foreigner progamer makes you immune to being called a dick, especially if you do dick-ish things (I'd say consistently BMing your opponents is a pretty dickish thing to do). I also don't see what anonymity has to do with it. If someone acts like a dick then people will call him out on it. You reap what you sow. Well, two rights don't make a wrong. Either call him out respectfully, but slinging insults ruins the discourse. I don't mind people telling him to lay off the BM, but using terms like "loser" is a bit excessive. Progamers play this game as a job, have a much deeper understanding of the game, and are heavily involved in the scene. They put themselves out there for our entertainment, so to see some kid on the Internet hide behind an anonymous ID sling mud at them is irritating. Progamers are human and aren't immune to criticism, but show some basic respect (and this goes all people, but especially progamers). Don't suddenly get brave because we don't know your name. pretty sure plenty of people here would have called him a loser or a dick in front of his face...it's not like he's someone to be afraid of... Maybe. 12 year olds are pretty angsty Spot on. Ha! Actually, if the BM was about his game play, you would be right. But the BM was mainly towards his attitude, so I am not sure how his skill in SC makes any difference.
Because fanboys are illogical.
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Good job Taeja, TL and especially Snute!!!
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Damn, so much drama in this thread about Nerchio. Had a nice read, thanks guys, thanks Nerchio :D
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