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VmY
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands1286 Posts
June 27 2013 13:07 GMT
#1221
On June 27 2013 22:05 dainbramage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 22:04 VmY wrote:
Terran harass is pretty good if you HAVE NOTHING TO DEFEND.

Sounds like what the terrans had against rain's zealots. Didn't stop certain terrans from complaining endlessly.


I think his argument was more about protoss players denying protoss harras options rather then the games themselfs. Keen/Bomber didn't handle that the best they could, obviously.
Why can't I quit you, siege tank? FanTaSy, Mvp.
Archybaldie
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom818 Posts
June 27 2013 13:07 GMT
#1222
Keen's TvP knowledge seems to be really damn good. I dont think any protoss would want keen in their group for the next round.
I'm in the bubblewrap league ... i just keep getting popped
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
June 27 2013 13:07 GMT
#1223
That game pretty clearly shows the difference in class between a Protoss like Rain and a Protoss like Hurricane. Keen played well in both games, but the results were somewhat different.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 27 2013 13:07 GMT
#1224
Poll: Recommend Group H Loser's Match?

Yes! (3)
 
38%

Nope. (3)
 
38%

If you have time. (2)
 
25%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Group H Loser's Match?

(Vote): Yes!
(Vote): If you have time.
(Vote): Nope.

The Bomber boy
Nauseam
Profile Joined May 2013
Sweden191 Posts
June 27 2013 13:07 GMT
#1225
On June 27 2013 22:04 VmY wrote:
Terran harass is pretty good if you HAVE NOTHING TO DEFEND.


That was a comment to the ongoing discussion about harassment for P and T.

P harassment is pretty good too if you let two zealots kill all your scv's and don't defend.
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
June 27 2013 13:08 GMT
#1226
Would be cool if FXO started winning again T_T
리노크 👑
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 27 2013 13:08 GMT
#1227
i like ma boy Keen a lot, but i just have to cheer for Bomber here because Bomber
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
June 27 2013 13:08 GMT
#1228
On June 27 2013 22:04 VmY wrote:
Protoss harass is pretty good if you HAVE NOTHING TO DEFEND.


If the statement looks like this, we capture the essence of the Bomber versus Rain game.
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
SeXyBaCk
Profile Joined January 2012
Switzerland174 Posts
June 27 2013 13:08 GMT
#1229
So that's what, 7 terrans out of 16? From 8 out of 32. Man, terrans really coming through. 88% progression rate?

I was started to get worried I wouldn't have enough terran to watch next round, irrational fear apparently.

The protoss have really disappointed this round. No one but Rain remotely impressed me and I think I've seen all games. A lot of the ZvZs were pretty weird games as well.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
June 27 2013 13:08 GMT
#1230
Rain is the only player godlike enough to advance as protoss for now?
Revolutionist fan
bypLy
Profile Joined June 2013
757 Posts
June 27 2013 13:08 GMT
#1231
looks great
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
June 27 2013 13:09 GMT
#1232
On June 27 2013 22:08 Salteador Neo wrote:
Rain is the only player godlike enough to advance as protoss for now?

Hasn't like 4 protossess advanced?
리노크 👑
dainbramage
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia1442 Posts
June 27 2013 13:09 GMT
#1233
On June 27 2013 22:07 VmY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 22:05 dainbramage wrote:
On June 27 2013 22:04 VmY wrote:
Terran harass is pretty good if you HAVE NOTHING TO DEFEND.

Sounds like what the terrans had against rain's zealots. Didn't stop certain terrans from complaining endlessly.


I think his argument was more about protoss players denying protoss harras options rather then the games themselfs. Keen/Bomber didn't handle that the best they could, obviously.

We never said we had absolutely no options. But you can see the difference surely. If you're out of position against a zealot runby/warpin you lose 5 SCVs and maybe a supply depot or missile turret. If you're out of position against a terran drop you lose your nexus.
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
June 27 2013 13:09 GMT
#1234
Commander Keen!!!
#TheOneTrueDong
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
June 27 2013 13:09 GMT
#1235
On June 27 2013 22:01 -Celestial- wrote:
If Protoss harrass was consistently resulting in won games like Terran harrass and Zerg muta harrass often does then you might have an argument. It doesn't. It flat out isn't very good until you're able to throw away units lategame.


The Protoss harass won Rain the game that is discussed in this very thread. So this is the right place to point this out, even if you feel that Protoss harass is not rewarding enough / too risky / unreliable.

Also: every time a player dies to harass is because he did not deal well with it. This time it happened to Bomber.
I play random | I like Hots | INnoVation | sOs | Tefel TOP1!
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
June 27 2013 13:09 GMT
#1236
On June 27 2013 22:06 Kommander wrote:
Bottom line, Protoss does have harass potential, but Terran is still much better at it.

Indeed, because the race (when playing bio) is built around midgame agression, while Protoss can play purely defensively for 16-17 minuts in PvT.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
June 27 2013 13:09 GMT
#1237
On June 27 2013 22:09 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 22:08 Salteador Neo wrote:
Rain is the only player godlike enough to advance as protoss for now?

Hasn't like 4 protossess advanced?


I don't know, thats why I'm asking xD
Revolutionist fan
VmY
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands1286 Posts
June 27 2013 13:09 GMT
#1238
On June 27 2013 22:09 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 22:08 Salteador Neo wrote:
Rain is the only player godlike enough to advance as protoss for now?

Hasn't like 4 protossess advanced?


First, Trap and PartinG aswel. isn't that 1 more then last season? Things are looking up!
Why can't I quit you, siege tank? FanTaSy, Mvp.
FetTerBender
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany1393 Posts
June 27 2013 13:09 GMT
#1239
Gogo Bomber, for Startale!
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
June 27 2013 13:09 GMT
#1240
On June 27 2013 22:01 -Celestial- wrote:
Sometimes I hope that LR threads will surprise me. They never do. Dwf complaining about Protoss again. Everyone arguing because Bomber did as Bomber does, mishandled the situation and now people are trying to use it to justify that somehow Protoss has awesome harrassment.


Remember that time in GSL when hatch first beat proxy rax because of massive misplays? Is hatch first now the counter to proxy rax because it happened that one time? How about when an army gets wiped out because its left standing under a nuke? Are nukes suddenly OP?

If Protoss harrass was consistently resulting in won games like Terran harrass and Zerg muta harrass often does then you might have an argument. It doesn't. It flat out isn't very good until you're able to throw away units lategame.


Such demagoguery. First two ad hominem's, one against TheDwf, the other against Bomber and then repeating the same worn out arguments which were under doubt already as if attacking the messenger made them more true.
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