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VmY
Netherlands1286 Posts
On June 27 2013 22:05 dainbramage wrote: Sounds like what the terrans had against rain's zealots. Didn't stop certain terrans from complaining endlessly. I think his argument was more about protoss players denying protoss harras options rather then the games themselfs. Keen/Bomber didn't handle that the best they could, obviously. | ||
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Archybaldie
United Kingdom818 Posts
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FuRong
New Zealand3089 Posts
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Wintex
Norway16838 Posts
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Nauseam
Sweden191 Posts
On June 27 2013 22:04 VmY wrote: Terran harass is pretty good if you HAVE NOTHING TO DEFEND. That was a comment to the ongoing discussion about harassment for P and T. P harassment is pretty good too if you let two zealots kill all your scv's and don't defend.  | ||
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DrPandaPhD
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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Wingblade
United States1806 Posts
On June 27 2013 22:04 VmY wrote: Protoss harass is pretty good if you HAVE NOTHING TO DEFEND. If the statement looks like this, we capture the essence of the Bomber versus Rain game. | ||
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SeXyBaCk
Switzerland174 Posts
I was started to get worried I wouldn't have enough terran to watch next round, irrational fear apparently. The protoss have really disappointed this round. No one but Rain remotely impressed me and I think I've seen all games. A lot of the ZvZs were pretty weird games as well. | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
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bypLy
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
On June 27 2013 22:08 Salteador Neo wrote: Rain is the only player godlike enough to advance as protoss for now? Hasn't like 4 protossess advanced? | ||
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dainbramage
Australia1442 Posts
On June 27 2013 22:07 VmY wrote: I think his argument was more about protoss players denying protoss harras options rather then the games themselfs. Keen/Bomber didn't handle that the best they could, obviously. We never said we had absolutely no options. But you can see the difference surely. If you're out of position against a zealot runby/warpin you lose 5 SCVs and maybe a supply depot or missile turret. If you're out of position against a terran drop you lose your nexus. | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
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scypio
Poland2127 Posts
On June 27 2013 22:01 -Celestial- wrote: If Protoss harrass was consistently resulting in won games like Terran harrass and Zerg muta harrass often does then you might have an argument. It doesn't. It flat out isn't very good until you're able to throw away units lategame. The Protoss harass won Rain the game that is discussed in this very thread. So this is the right place to point this out, even if you feel that Protoss harass is not rewarding enough / too risky / unreliable. Also: every time a player dies to harass is because he did not deal well with it. This time it happened to Bomber. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On June 27 2013 22:06 Kommander wrote: Bottom line, Protoss does have harass potential, but Terran is still much better at it. Indeed, because the race (when playing bio) is built around midgame agression, while Protoss can play purely defensively for 16-17 minuts in PvT. | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
I don't know, thats why I'm asking xD | ||
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VmY
Netherlands1286 Posts
First, Trap and PartinG aswel. isn't that 1 more then last season? Things are looking up! | ||
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FetTerBender
Germany1393 Posts
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Deleted User 137586
7859 Posts
On June 27 2013 22:01 -Celestial- wrote: Sometimes I hope that LR threads will surprise me. They never do. Dwf complaining about Protoss again. Everyone arguing because Bomber did as Bomber does, mishandled the situation and now people are trying to use it to justify that somehow Protoss has awesome harrassment. Remember that time in GSL when hatch first beat proxy rax because of massive misplays? Is hatch first now the counter to proxy rax because it happened that one time? How about when an army gets wiped out because its left standing under a nuke? Are nukes suddenly OP? If Protoss harrass was consistently resulting in won games like Terran harrass and Zerg muta harrass often does then you might have an argument. It doesn't. It flat out isn't very good until you're able to throw away units lategame. Such demagoguery. First two ad hominem's, one against TheDwf, the other against Bomber and then repeating the same worn out arguments which were under doubt already as if attacking the messenger made them more true. | ||
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