• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:23
CEST 07:23
KST 14:23
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On6Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5TL.net Map Contest #21 - Finalists4Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!0[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High15
Community News
5.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version)42$2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 150Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada9Weekly Cups (Sept 22-28): MaxPax double, Zerg wins, PTR12BSL Season 217
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version) Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada SC2 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes + Sept 22nd update Had to smile :) Weekly Cups (Sept 22-28): MaxPax double, Zerg wins, PTR
Tourneys
Stellar Fest Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 15 LANified! 37: Groundswell, BYOC LAN, Nov 28-30 2025 Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight
Brood War
General
Flash On JaeDongs ASL Struggles & Perseverance Any rep analyzer that shows resources situation? Thoughts on rarely used units Recent recommended BW games BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro8 Day 4 [ASL20] Ro8 Day 3 3D!Community Brood War Super Cup №3 BSL Team Wars - Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta I am doing this better than progamers do. Simple Questions, Simple Answers Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy)
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Liquipedia App: Now Covering SC2 and Brood War!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final
Blogs
[AI] Sorry, Chill, My Bad :…
Peanutsc
Try to reverse getting fired …
Garnet
[ASL20] Players bad at pi…
pullarius1
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1855 users

[WCS EU] RO32 Group B - Premier Season 2 2013 - Page 30

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 28 29 30 31 32 44 Next All
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 26 2013 19:17 GMT
#581
Shuttle vs Slivko
1 - 1
Map is Star Station

Slivko is at the top left
Shuttle is at the bot right
dreaming of a sunny day
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
June 26 2013 19:17 GMT
#582
On June 27 2013 04:15 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 04:14 Heavenlee wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:13 packrat386 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:12 Heavenlee wrote:
should've just massed more mines and marines, no joke. What does one tank do that 2 widow mines wouldn't have?

Its a lot more of an anchor vs banes.


How so? It probably got in one shot, at least widow mines could've gotten in two.


The banes can't afford to hit the tank since it takes so many to kill them. Also it can hit from a far longer range keeping the opponents army back.


I meant in the sense that he had one tank and pushing out instead of making mines. One tank is not going to keep 180 supply of zerg back, and even if it can shoot from a further distance it still got about one shot in.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
June 26 2013 19:18 GMT
#583
On June 27 2013 04:17 Heavenlee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 04:15 packrat386 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:14 Heavenlee wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:13 packrat386 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:12 Heavenlee wrote:
should've just massed more mines and marines, no joke. What does one tank do that 2 widow mines wouldn't have?

Its a lot more of an anchor vs banes.


How so? It probably got in one shot, at least widow mines could've gotten in two.


The banes can't afford to hit the tank since it takes so many to kill them. Also it can hit from a far longer range keeping the opponents army back.


I meant in the sense that he had one tank and pushing out instead of making mines. One tank is not going to keep 180 supply of zerg back, and even if it can shoot from a further distance it still got about one shot in.

He was dead at this point anyway, the Tanks were needed much earlier to hold the first wave capitalizing on the fact the main overhangs the natural and the third.
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 19:20:35
June 26 2013 19:20 GMT
#584
On June 27 2013 04:18 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 04:17 Heavenlee wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:15 packrat386 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:14 Heavenlee wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:13 packrat386 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:12 Heavenlee wrote:
should've just massed more mines and marines, no joke. What does one tank do that 2 widow mines wouldn't have?

Its a lot more of an anchor vs banes.


How so? It probably got in one shot, at least widow mines could've gotten in two.


The banes can't afford to hit the tank since it takes so many to kill them. Also it can hit from a far longer range keeping the opponents army back.


I meant in the sense that he had one tank and pushing out instead of making mines. One tank is not going to keep 180 supply of zerg back, and even if it can shoot from a further distance it still got about one shot in.

He was dead at this point anyway, the Tanks were needed much earlier to hold the first wave capitalizing on the fact the main overhangs the natural and the third.


I know...I'm not trying to start a debate and I'm not talking about what he should've done earlier. Just a little comment where I was baffled by the thought process of putting your factory onto a tech lab and making one tank before pushing out.
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 26 2013 19:20 GMT
#585
On June 27 2013 04:17 packrat386 wrote:
Shuttle vs Slivko
1 - 1
Map is Star Station

Slivko is at the top left
Shuttle is at the bot right


0:00
nothing silly happening yet

1:00
supply depot walling off
drones and SCVs

2:00
hatch first for slivko
CC first on the high ground
spawning pool before gas
rax forms a wall on the high ground

3:00
gas comes after for slivko
shuttle also getting gas

4:00
bunker on the low ground
factory going down
speed on the way
1 drone only in the extractor

dreaming of a sunny day
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 26 2013 19:21 GMT
#586
On June 27 2013 04:20 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 04:17 packrat386 wrote:
Shuttle vs Slivko
1 - 1
Map is Star Station

Slivko is at the top left
Shuttle is at the bot right


0:00
nothing silly happening yet

1:00
supply depot walling off
drones and SCVs

2:00
hatch first for slivko
CC first on the high ground
spawning pool before gas
rax forms a wall on the high ground

3:00
gas comes after for slivko
shuttle also getting gas

4:00
bunker on the low ground
factory going down
speed on the way
1 drone only in the extractor



5:00
the lings try to runby but are stopped by the bunker
armory and reactor on the way for shuttle
lag....

dreaming of a sunny day
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 19:22:32
June 26 2013 19:21 GMT
#587
On June 27 2013 04:12 Heavenlee wrote:
should've just massed more mines and marines, no joke. What does one tank do that 2 widow mines wouldn't have?


Do something if the zerg player sends a roach alone, like Slivko did again and again.

Seriously, there was no way Mvp would have been that cost efficient yesterday if he had mines instead of tanks.

Edit : OK, I agree, no point in making a single tank after being battered down 3 times and push with it
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
June 26 2013 19:21 GMT
#588
On June 27 2013 04:20 Heavenlee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 04:18 TheDwf wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:17 Heavenlee wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:15 packrat386 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:14 Heavenlee wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:13 packrat386 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:12 Heavenlee wrote:
should've just massed more mines and marines, no joke. What does one tank do that 2 widow mines wouldn't have?

Its a lot more of an anchor vs banes.


How so? It probably got in one shot, at least widow mines could've gotten in two.


The banes can't afford to hit the tank since it takes so many to kill them. Also it can hit from a far longer range keeping the opponents army back.


I meant in the sense that he had one tank and pushing out instead of making mines. One tank is not going to keep 180 supply of zerg back, and even if it can shoot from a further distance it still got about one shot in.

He was dead at this point anyway, the Tanks were needed much earlier to hold the first wave capitalizing on the fact the main overhangs the natural and the third.


I know...I'm not trying to start a debate and I'm not talking about what he should've done earlier. Just a little comment where I was baffled by the thought process of putting your factory onto a tech lab and making one tank before pushing out.

Despair can deliver weird things.
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 26 2013 19:22 GMT
#589
ITT: crickets
dreaming of a sunny day
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
June 26 2013 19:23 GMT
#590
On June 27 2013 04:21 fezvez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 04:12 Heavenlee wrote:
should've just massed more mines and marines, no joke. What does one tank do that 2 widow mines wouldn't have?


Do something if the zerg player sends a roach alone, like Slivko did again and again.

Seriously, there was no way Mvp would have been that cost efficient yesterday if he had mines instead of tanks.


Do something with a single tank if a zerg player sends a roach alone ahead of his army before the engagement. You could put your window mine behind your army and pull back when the zerg fully engages, at least.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
June 26 2013 19:23 GMT
#591
On June 27 2013 04:13 Soda-88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 04:10 NovaMB wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:10 Sewi wrote:
3 SCVs vs 3 base Zerg. Fantasy-GG-timing ?



Watch Mvp vs. Tefel and judge again.


Slivko > Tefel
Mvp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shuttle

come again?

Are you sure ? I'm not.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 26 2013 19:24 GMT
#592
On June 27 2013 04:21 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 04:20 packrat386 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:17 packrat386 wrote:
Shuttle vs Slivko
1 - 1
Map is Star Station

Slivko is at the top left
Shuttle is at the bot right


0:00
nothing silly happening yet

1:00
supply depot walling off
drones and SCVs

2:00
hatch first for slivko
CC first on the high ground
spawning pool before gas
rax forms a wall on the high ground

3:00
gas comes after for slivko
shuttle also getting gas

4:00
bunker on the low ground
factory going down
speed on the way
1 drone only in the extractor



5:00
the lings try to runby but are stopped by the bunker
armory and reactor on the way for shuttle
lag....



6:00
we're back
the 3rd blocked briefly by a bunker
3rd goes down for slivko
hellions out on the map
they get surrounded and one dies
roach warren on the way for slivko
more gas as well

7:00
more gas for slivko
the first 2 medivacs are coming out
hellbatzzz
single evo and a bane nest coming down for slivko

8:00
4 hellbats otw to the main
marauders coming out
3rd CC now for shuttle
stim is on the way

dreaming of a sunny day
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
June 26 2013 19:26 GMT
#593
Shuttle build a + Show Spoiler +
fucking
tank already.
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 26 2013 19:26 GMT
#594
On June 27 2013 04:24 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 04:21 packrat386 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:20 packrat386 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:17 packrat386 wrote:
Shuttle vs Slivko
1 - 1
Map is Star Station

Slivko is at the top left
Shuttle is at the bot right


0:00
nothing silly happening yet

1:00
supply depot walling off
drones and SCVs

2:00
hatch first for slivko
CC first on the high ground
spawning pool before gas
rax forms a wall on the high ground

3:00
gas comes after for slivko
shuttle also getting gas

4:00
bunker on the low ground
factory going down
speed on the way
1 drone only in the extractor



5:00
the lings try to runby but are stopped by the bunker
armory and reactor on the way for shuttle
lag....



6:00
we're back
the 3rd blocked briefly by a bunker
3rd goes down for slivko
hellions out on the map
they get surrounded and one dies
roach warren on the way for slivko
more gas as well

7:00
more gas for slivko
the first 2 medivacs are coming out
hellbatzzz
single evo and a bane nest coming down for slivko

8:00
4 hellbats otw to the main
marauders coming out
3rd CC now for shuttle
stim is on the way



9:00
hellbats kill 5 drones
he loses a medivac though
6 OLs at once macro for slivko
shuttle trying to do tri-prong hellbats
OL chased away by viking

10:00
17 roaches otw
hellbats drop in the nat
they do almost nothing
2 hellbats walk into the third, but do very little

11:00
drops do a bit of damage in the main
viking is hunting overlords
lots of roaches headed for the third
80 army supply to 50, slivko leads
dreaming of a sunny day
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
June 26 2013 19:27 GMT
#595
Magnificent freeze when the fight occured.
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
June 26 2013 19:28 GMT
#596
2-2 v 1-0 soon gg.
Dudasc
Profile Joined October 2012
Brazil286 Posts
June 26 2013 19:29 GMT
#597
gg
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 26 2013 19:29 GMT
#598
On June 27 2013 04:26 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 04:24 packrat386 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:21 packrat386 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:20 packrat386 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:17 packrat386 wrote:
Shuttle vs Slivko
1 - 1
Map is Star Station

Slivko is at the top left
Shuttle is at the bot right


0:00
nothing silly happening yet

1:00
supply depot walling off
drones and SCVs

2:00
hatch first for slivko
CC first on the high ground
spawning pool before gas
rax forms a wall on the high ground

3:00
gas comes after for slivko
shuttle also getting gas

4:00
bunker on the low ground
factory going down
speed on the way
1 drone only in the extractor



5:00
the lings try to runby but are stopped by the bunker
armory and reactor on the way for shuttle
lag....



6:00
we're back
the 3rd blocked briefly by a bunker
3rd goes down for slivko
hellions out on the map
they get surrounded and one dies
roach warren on the way for slivko
more gas as well

7:00
more gas for slivko
the first 2 medivacs are coming out
hellbatzzz
single evo and a bane nest coming down for slivko

8:00
4 hellbats otw to the main
marauders coming out
3rd CC now for shuttle
stim is on the way



9:00
hellbats kill 5 drones
he loses a medivac though
6 OLs at once macro for slivko
shuttle trying to do tri-prong hellbats
OL chased away by viking

10:00
17 roaches otw
hellbats drop in the nat
they do almost nothing
2 hellbats walk into the third, but do very little

11:00
drops do a bit of damage in the main
viking is hunting overlords
lots of roaches headed for the third
80 army supply to 50, slivko leads


12:00
solid defense setup for shuttle
slivkos banes kill several bunkers
roaches are in the nat, but the bio is up the ramp
roaches pushing up the main
16 SCVs go down
slivko detonates on a lot of empty bunkers

13:00
shuttle pushes it all back
130 to 104 in slivko's favor
4th goes down for slivko

14:00
2-2 much fast for shuttle
2x drop coming to the main
3rd is up for shuttle
2nd fact is on the way for shuttle

15:00
pathogen glands otw
engagement outside the 4th of slivko ends with a lot of mines going down
main hatch for slivko gets killed by a drop
153 to 145 in slivkos favor

16:00
several banes morphing for slivko
mutas coming out for slivko
hes getting greater spire as well

dreaming of a sunny day
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
June 26 2013 19:30 GMT
#599
"scv"? What does he mean by that?
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 26 2013 19:30 GMT
#600
what the hell was that about rofl
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Prev 1 28 29 30 31 32 44 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 37m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 118
UpATreeSC 104
SortOf 62
StarCraft: Brood War
Zeus 106
Noble 47
Shine 45
Bale 28
Icarus 9
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm110
League of Legends
JimRising 715
Counter-Strike
m0e_tv872
Stewie2K585
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King90
Other Games
summit1g9312
WinterStarcraft472
C9.Mang0260
XaKoH 175
ViBE160
Maynarde154
ArmadaUGS18
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick668
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 38
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1090
• Stunt205
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
4h 37m
Map Test Tournament
5h 37m
Wardi Open
1d 5h
[BSL 2025] Weekly
2 days
Safe House 2
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
BSL Team Wars
3 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
Dewalt vs kogeT
JDConan vs Tarson
RaNgeD vs DragOn
StRyKeR vs Bonyth
Aeternum vs Hejek
Replay Cast
4 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-25
Maestros of the Game
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
Acropolis #4 - TS2
EC S1
ESL Pro League S22
Frag Blocktober 2025
Urban Riga Open #1
FERJEE Rush 2025
Birch Cup 2025
DraculaN #2
LanDaLan #3
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2025-26
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
WardiTV TLMC #15
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.