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packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 26 2013 19:17 GMT
#581
Shuttle vs Slivko
1 - 1
Map is Star Station

Slivko is at the top left
Shuttle is at the bot right
dreaming of a sunny day
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
June 26 2013 19:17 GMT
#582
On June 27 2013 04:15 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 04:14 Heavenlee wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:13 packrat386 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:12 Heavenlee wrote:
should've just massed more mines and marines, no joke. What does one tank do that 2 widow mines wouldn't have?

Its a lot more of an anchor vs banes.


How so? It probably got in one shot, at least widow mines could've gotten in two.


The banes can't afford to hit the tank since it takes so many to kill them. Also it can hit from a far longer range keeping the opponents army back.


I meant in the sense that he had one tank and pushing out instead of making mines. One tank is not going to keep 180 supply of zerg back, and even if it can shoot from a further distance it still got about one shot in.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
June 26 2013 19:18 GMT
#583
On June 27 2013 04:17 Heavenlee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 04:15 packrat386 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:14 Heavenlee wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:13 packrat386 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:12 Heavenlee wrote:
should've just massed more mines and marines, no joke. What does one tank do that 2 widow mines wouldn't have?

Its a lot more of an anchor vs banes.


How so? It probably got in one shot, at least widow mines could've gotten in two.


The banes can't afford to hit the tank since it takes so many to kill them. Also it can hit from a far longer range keeping the opponents army back.


I meant in the sense that he had one tank and pushing out instead of making mines. One tank is not going to keep 180 supply of zerg back, and even if it can shoot from a further distance it still got about one shot in.

He was dead at this point anyway, the Tanks were needed much earlier to hold the first wave capitalizing on the fact the main overhangs the natural and the third.
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 19:20:35
June 26 2013 19:20 GMT
#584
On June 27 2013 04:18 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 04:17 Heavenlee wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:15 packrat386 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:14 Heavenlee wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:13 packrat386 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:12 Heavenlee wrote:
should've just massed more mines and marines, no joke. What does one tank do that 2 widow mines wouldn't have?

Its a lot more of an anchor vs banes.


How so? It probably got in one shot, at least widow mines could've gotten in two.


The banes can't afford to hit the tank since it takes so many to kill them. Also it can hit from a far longer range keeping the opponents army back.


I meant in the sense that he had one tank and pushing out instead of making mines. One tank is not going to keep 180 supply of zerg back, and even if it can shoot from a further distance it still got about one shot in.

He was dead at this point anyway, the Tanks were needed much earlier to hold the first wave capitalizing on the fact the main overhangs the natural and the third.


I know...I'm not trying to start a debate and I'm not talking about what he should've done earlier. Just a little comment where I was baffled by the thought process of putting your factory onto a tech lab and making one tank before pushing out.
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 26 2013 19:20 GMT
#585
On June 27 2013 04:17 packrat386 wrote:
Shuttle vs Slivko
1 - 1
Map is Star Station

Slivko is at the top left
Shuttle is at the bot right


0:00
nothing silly happening yet

1:00
supply depot walling off
drones and SCVs

2:00
hatch first for slivko
CC first on the high ground
spawning pool before gas
rax forms a wall on the high ground

3:00
gas comes after for slivko
shuttle also getting gas

4:00
bunker on the low ground
factory going down
speed on the way
1 drone only in the extractor

dreaming of a sunny day
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 26 2013 19:21 GMT
#586
On June 27 2013 04:20 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 04:17 packrat386 wrote:
Shuttle vs Slivko
1 - 1
Map is Star Station

Slivko is at the top left
Shuttle is at the bot right


0:00
nothing silly happening yet

1:00
supply depot walling off
drones and SCVs

2:00
hatch first for slivko
CC first on the high ground
spawning pool before gas
rax forms a wall on the high ground

3:00
gas comes after for slivko
shuttle also getting gas

4:00
bunker on the low ground
factory going down
speed on the way
1 drone only in the extractor



5:00
the lings try to runby but are stopped by the bunker
armory and reactor on the way for shuttle
lag....

dreaming of a sunny day
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 19:22:32
June 26 2013 19:21 GMT
#587
On June 27 2013 04:12 Heavenlee wrote:
should've just massed more mines and marines, no joke. What does one tank do that 2 widow mines wouldn't have?


Do something if the zerg player sends a roach alone, like Slivko did again and again.

Seriously, there was no way Mvp would have been that cost efficient yesterday if he had mines instead of tanks.

Edit : OK, I agree, no point in making a single tank after being battered down 3 times and push with it
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
June 26 2013 19:21 GMT
#588
On June 27 2013 04:20 Heavenlee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 04:18 TheDwf wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:17 Heavenlee wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:15 packrat386 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:14 Heavenlee wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:13 packrat386 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:12 Heavenlee wrote:
should've just massed more mines and marines, no joke. What does one tank do that 2 widow mines wouldn't have?

Its a lot more of an anchor vs banes.


How so? It probably got in one shot, at least widow mines could've gotten in two.


The banes can't afford to hit the tank since it takes so many to kill them. Also it can hit from a far longer range keeping the opponents army back.


I meant in the sense that he had one tank and pushing out instead of making mines. One tank is not going to keep 180 supply of zerg back, and even if it can shoot from a further distance it still got about one shot in.

He was dead at this point anyway, the Tanks were needed much earlier to hold the first wave capitalizing on the fact the main overhangs the natural and the third.


I know...I'm not trying to start a debate and I'm not talking about what he should've done earlier. Just a little comment where I was baffled by the thought process of putting your factory onto a tech lab and making one tank before pushing out.

Despair can deliver weird things.
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 26 2013 19:22 GMT
#589
ITT: crickets
dreaming of a sunny day
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
June 26 2013 19:23 GMT
#590
On June 27 2013 04:21 fezvez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 04:12 Heavenlee wrote:
should've just massed more mines and marines, no joke. What does one tank do that 2 widow mines wouldn't have?


Do something if the zerg player sends a roach alone, like Slivko did again and again.

Seriously, there was no way Mvp would have been that cost efficient yesterday if he had mines instead of tanks.


Do something with a single tank if a zerg player sends a roach alone ahead of his army before the engagement. You could put your window mine behind your army and pull back when the zerg fully engages, at least.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
June 26 2013 19:23 GMT
#591
On June 27 2013 04:13 Soda-88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 04:10 NovaMB wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:10 Sewi wrote:
3 SCVs vs 3 base Zerg. Fantasy-GG-timing ?



Watch Mvp vs. Tefel and judge again.


Slivko > Tefel
Mvp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shuttle

come again?

Are you sure ? I'm not.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 26 2013 19:24 GMT
#592
On June 27 2013 04:21 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 04:20 packrat386 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:17 packrat386 wrote:
Shuttle vs Slivko
1 - 1
Map is Star Station

Slivko is at the top left
Shuttle is at the bot right


0:00
nothing silly happening yet

1:00
supply depot walling off
drones and SCVs

2:00
hatch first for slivko
CC first on the high ground
spawning pool before gas
rax forms a wall on the high ground

3:00
gas comes after for slivko
shuttle also getting gas

4:00
bunker on the low ground
factory going down
speed on the way
1 drone only in the extractor



5:00
the lings try to runby but are stopped by the bunker
armory and reactor on the way for shuttle
lag....



6:00
we're back
the 3rd blocked briefly by a bunker
3rd goes down for slivko
hellions out on the map
they get surrounded and one dies
roach warren on the way for slivko
more gas as well

7:00
more gas for slivko
the first 2 medivacs are coming out
hellbatzzz
single evo and a bane nest coming down for slivko

8:00
4 hellbats otw to the main
marauders coming out
3rd CC now for shuttle
stim is on the way

dreaming of a sunny day
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
June 26 2013 19:26 GMT
#593
Shuttle build a + Show Spoiler +
fucking
tank already.
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 26 2013 19:26 GMT
#594
On June 27 2013 04:24 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 04:21 packrat386 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:20 packrat386 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:17 packrat386 wrote:
Shuttle vs Slivko
1 - 1
Map is Star Station

Slivko is at the top left
Shuttle is at the bot right


0:00
nothing silly happening yet

1:00
supply depot walling off
drones and SCVs

2:00
hatch first for slivko
CC first on the high ground
spawning pool before gas
rax forms a wall on the high ground

3:00
gas comes after for slivko
shuttle also getting gas

4:00
bunker on the low ground
factory going down
speed on the way
1 drone only in the extractor



5:00
the lings try to runby but are stopped by the bunker
armory and reactor on the way for shuttle
lag....



6:00
we're back
the 3rd blocked briefly by a bunker
3rd goes down for slivko
hellions out on the map
they get surrounded and one dies
roach warren on the way for slivko
more gas as well

7:00
more gas for slivko
the first 2 medivacs are coming out
hellbatzzz
single evo and a bane nest coming down for slivko

8:00
4 hellbats otw to the main
marauders coming out
3rd CC now for shuttle
stim is on the way



9:00
hellbats kill 5 drones
he loses a medivac though
6 OLs at once macro for slivko
shuttle trying to do tri-prong hellbats
OL chased away by viking

10:00
17 roaches otw
hellbats drop in the nat
they do almost nothing
2 hellbats walk into the third, but do very little

11:00
drops do a bit of damage in the main
viking is hunting overlords
lots of roaches headed for the third
80 army supply to 50, slivko leads
dreaming of a sunny day
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
June 26 2013 19:27 GMT
#595
Magnificent freeze when the fight occured.
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
June 26 2013 19:28 GMT
#596
2-2 v 1-0 soon gg.
Dudasc
Profile Joined October 2012
Brazil286 Posts
June 26 2013 19:29 GMT
#597
gg
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 26 2013 19:29 GMT
#598
On June 27 2013 04:26 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 04:24 packrat386 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:21 packrat386 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:20 packrat386 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:17 packrat386 wrote:
Shuttle vs Slivko
1 - 1
Map is Star Station

Slivko is at the top left
Shuttle is at the bot right


0:00
nothing silly happening yet

1:00
supply depot walling off
drones and SCVs

2:00
hatch first for slivko
CC first on the high ground
spawning pool before gas
rax forms a wall on the high ground

3:00
gas comes after for slivko
shuttle also getting gas

4:00
bunker on the low ground
factory going down
speed on the way
1 drone only in the extractor



5:00
the lings try to runby but are stopped by the bunker
armory and reactor on the way for shuttle
lag....



6:00
we're back
the 3rd blocked briefly by a bunker
3rd goes down for slivko
hellions out on the map
they get surrounded and one dies
roach warren on the way for slivko
more gas as well

7:00
more gas for slivko
the first 2 medivacs are coming out
hellbatzzz
single evo and a bane nest coming down for slivko

8:00
4 hellbats otw to the main
marauders coming out
3rd CC now for shuttle
stim is on the way



9:00
hellbats kill 5 drones
he loses a medivac though
6 OLs at once macro for slivko
shuttle trying to do tri-prong hellbats
OL chased away by viking

10:00
17 roaches otw
hellbats drop in the nat
they do almost nothing
2 hellbats walk into the third, but do very little

11:00
drops do a bit of damage in the main
viking is hunting overlords
lots of roaches headed for the third
80 army supply to 50, slivko leads


12:00
solid defense setup for shuttle
slivkos banes kill several bunkers
roaches are in the nat, but the bio is up the ramp
roaches pushing up the main
16 SCVs go down
slivko detonates on a lot of empty bunkers

13:00
shuttle pushes it all back
130 to 104 in slivko's favor
4th goes down for slivko

14:00
2-2 much fast for shuttle
2x drop coming to the main
3rd is up for shuttle
2nd fact is on the way for shuttle

15:00
pathogen glands otw
engagement outside the 4th of slivko ends with a lot of mines going down
main hatch for slivko gets killed by a drop
153 to 145 in slivkos favor

16:00
several banes morphing for slivko
mutas coming out for slivko
hes getting greater spire as well

dreaming of a sunny day
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
June 26 2013 19:30 GMT
#599
"scv"? What does he mean by that?
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 26 2013 19:30 GMT
#600
what the hell was that about rofl
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