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On June 25 2013 19:05 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 19:04 trifecta wrote:On June 25 2013 19:03 PVJ wrote:On June 25 2013 18:55 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On June 25 2013 18:54 Wintex wrote:On June 25 2013 18:53 goody153 wrote:
owww ... life lost .. damn .. no shame life that was fantasy possibly the greatest terran BW of all time NaDa. BoxeR, NaDa, oov, FlaSh. Midas. DDR Terran I just hope you know what DDR means in this context.
Dance Dance Revolution 
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On June 25 2013 19:06 Thinasy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 19:05 Vash_SC2 wrote:On June 25 2013 19:04 Thinasy wrote:On June 25 2013 19:03 Vash_SC2 wrote:On June 25 2013 19:02 Swisslink wrote:On June 25 2013 18:58 TheDwf wrote:On June 25 2013 18:58 Vash_SC2 wrote:On June 25 2013 18:56 Thinasy wrote:On June 25 2013 18:56 Vash_SC2 wrote:On June 25 2013 18:54 packrat386 wrote:
fuck me. I wish life and my other favorite zergs would learn how to transition out of mutas. Widow mines are too strong for you to stay on them forever. Late game zerg is bad vs T No it isnt. Let me rephrase, Tier 3 is bad against Terran. (At high level, not your level) Ultralisks are bad against Terrans?? Against Bio-Mine they would be great - the problem is the constant pressure a Terran can put on you with this composition, you can't possibly transition out of Muta-ling or you might lose a pretty damn important engagement. Don't forget about the drops with speedboost when you go ultra. Spores, queens, a few mutas? Oh shit mang, you just figured out late game ZvT. Email Soulkey, Life, and RorO. Yeah cause Roro has been playing so great overall lately and you are seriously implying that Soulkey isnt winning vs Terran in lategame? Christ man
You mean all the Roach/Bane all ins are late game tier 3 units?
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On June 25 2013 19:06 HonorZ wrote:
The butthurt balance whine is hurting my eyes ! I miss proleague LR threads when I see all that.
Proleague has the best balance by eliminating everything except Protoss.
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On June 25 2013 19:05 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 19:00 Type|NarutO wrote:On June 25 2013 18:57 Big J wrote:On June 25 2013 18:56 Type|NarutO wrote:On June 25 2013 18:55 KingofGods wrote:On June 25 2013 18:54 Tsubbi wrote:
when is the fucking hellbat nerf live this is so painful to watch Fantasy's hellbat drops did virtually nothing this game....... Tsubbi always cries every time a Zerg playes. Nothing but informed tears from that guy. 10workers killed, spines forced, some zerglings killed, spire rush scouted... Those drops broke more than even. God beware Zerg has to actually do something instead of only droning now. Jesus. If you hate hellbat drops so much, you can hit him so hard with a queen defence and good roach/bane. Hellbat players don't have tons of defence at home and hellbats don't defend roach/bane that well to be honest. Depends on the game and timing, but when you cannot hit Zergs economy while the bust occurs, you might lose right there. "Lots" of queens are also very good against hellbats in the defence, as they can shoot down the medivac pretty quick. Also, seems like mines were more problematic to Life. Did I say I'm for nerfing them or something like that. But putting it like "hellbats aren't worth it unless you kill 923783589287 workers" is simply bullshit. Of course they could do more. They could win the game straight up. But Fantasy was surely not in a bad spot after the drops.
I did never comment on the drops themselves? I said what you can do against them.
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On June 25 2013 19:04 Type|NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 19:03 sitromit wrote:On June 25 2013 19:01 Type|NarutO wrote:On June 25 2013 18:59 sitromit wrote:On June 25 2013 18:54 Swisslink wrote:On June 25 2013 18:52 Wintex wrote:
Life is WAAAAY too overaggressive....... Well, is there a Zerg who wins against Terran lategame? I haven't seen one for quite a while. Which is the reason why everyone plays as aggressive as they do. It's Roach/Bane bust or lose. TvZ is approaching 70% this season for Terran. In PL it's over 60% the last 3 rounds, and this with all the early busts. Lots of wins from Innovation and Flash though. So we're back to the "the top Terrans are just better players" argument like back in early WoL? No. I'm saying if you cut out Innovation and Flash (and you can see their matches, I would argue they have indeed faced off against 'inferior' players in their ZvT matches. vs SoulKey for example its 1-1) and when you take away those games, you won't be at nearly 60% ..
But that is scewing stats in your favor. you can't just take say -"Well this does not count because x or y"
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On June 25 2013 19:05 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 19:04 liberate71 wrote:On June 25 2013 19:03 dabom88 wrote:On June 25 2013 18:59 Wintex wrote:
The widow mine burrow 1 sec thing is really bleh though. Drilling claws, right? I think that one activates them too quickly. 1,5 sec could maybe work. That way you could react to a zerg army without completely giving them the finger. It's pretty equivalent to the Enduring Locust upgrade. Both are rather fair. I think the Mine should pop up when 'triggered', then 1 sec later attack, to give people a chance to split-second-micro to try to mitigate damage. At the moment its just .... SURPRISE MOTHER FUCKER Pretty bad idea, that means detection isn't even necessary against mines if you have enough shit nearby.
Yeah if there is only one mine by itself... but if there is a couple, one might go and the others will still fire (as well as all the other terran stuff near by)
I like the idea of the mine, but i think its just way too easy to 'rely' on ridiculous hits which are really really hard to avoid happening from the zerg POV.
Kinda like how Fungal was at the end of WoL... by the time you see the infestor, its too late.
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On June 25 2013 19:06 HonorZ wrote:
The butthurt balance whine is hurting my eyes ! I miss proleague LR threads when I see all that.
Aren't the Proleague threads usually just complaining about SNM?
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On June 25 2013 19:05 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 19:04 trifecta wrote:On June 25 2013 19:03 PVJ wrote:On June 25 2013 18:55 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On June 25 2013 18:54 Wintex wrote:On June 25 2013 18:53 goody153 wrote:
owww ... life lost .. damn .. no shame life that was fantasy possibly the greatest terran BW of all time NaDa. BoxeR, NaDa, oov, FlaSh. Midas. DDR Terran I just hope you know what DDR means in this context.
Everyone does in fact respect Xellos for his night work. I hope he's having fun with his marketing job at CJ and his wife.
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On June 25 2013 19:04 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 19:00 HolyArrow wrote:
In light of Life losing to Sjow, that was pretty unsurprising. Wouldn't be unexpected for Life to go out in last place this group. Not that Sjow is bad, but you probably shouldn't be dropping Bo3s to foreigners if you want to be considered a top-level player. Come on, all players have off days. You don't suddenly stop being a top player because you haven't played well over the last 2-3 weeks.
dunno man, mvp didn't win a championship this week. Confirmed shit tier.
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lol. god i love tastetosis.
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On June 25 2013 19:07 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 19:06 HonorZ wrote:
The butthurt balance whine is hurting my eyes ! I miss proleague LR threads when I see all that. Aren't the Proleague threads usually just complaining about SNM?
It's that, and talking about Bisu.
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I remember when I first came to Teamliquid and heard that they just ban all the people crying about balance. What ever happened to this? I see so much crying in every thread now it is almost as bad as the sc2 general forums.
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On June 25 2013 19:07 Vash_SC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 19:06 Thinasy wrote:On June 25 2013 19:05 Vash_SC2 wrote:On June 25 2013 19:04 Thinasy wrote:On June 25 2013 19:03 Vash_SC2 wrote:On June 25 2013 19:02 Swisslink wrote:On June 25 2013 18:58 TheDwf wrote:On June 25 2013 18:58 Vash_SC2 wrote:On June 25 2013 18:56 Thinasy wrote:On June 25 2013 18:56 Vash_SC2 wrote:
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Late game zerg is bad vs T No it isnt. Let me rephrase, Tier 3 is bad against Terran. (At high level, not your level) Ultralisks are bad against Terrans?? Against Bio-Mine they would be great - the problem is the constant pressure a Terran can put on you with this composition, you can't possibly transition out of Muta-ling or you might lose a pretty damn important engagement. Don't forget about the drops with speedboost when you go ultra. Spores, queens, a few mutas? Oh shit mang, you just figured out late game ZvT. Email Soulkey, Life, and RorO. Yeah cause Roro has been playing so great overall lately and you are seriously implying that Soulkey isnt winning vs Terran in lategame? Christ man You mean all the Roach/Bane all ins are late game tier 3 units?
No point in arguing anymore, im out. Just baffled why you arent even warned yet.
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On June 25 2013 19:07 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 19:04 Type|NarutO wrote:On June 25 2013 19:03 sitromit wrote:On June 25 2013 19:01 Type|NarutO wrote:On June 25 2013 18:59 sitromit wrote:On June 25 2013 18:54 Swisslink wrote:On June 25 2013 18:52 Wintex wrote:
Life is WAAAAY too overaggressive....... Well, is there a Zerg who wins against Terran lategame? I haven't seen one for quite a while. Which is the reason why everyone plays as aggressive as they do. It's Roach/Bane bust or lose. TvZ is approaching 70% this season for Terran. In PL it's over 60% the last 3 rounds, and this with all the early busts. Lots of wins from Innovation and Flash though. So we're back to the "the top Terrans are just better players" argument like back in early WoL? No. I'm saying if you cut out Innovation and Flash (and you can see their matches, I would argue they have indeed faced off against 'inferior' players in their ZvT matches. vs SoulKey for example its 1-1) and when you take away those games, you won't be at nearly 60% .. But that is scewing stats in your favor. you can't just take say -"Well this does not count because x or y"
Why not? That worked for all other races for three years already.
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On June 25 2013 19:06 DidYuhim wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 19:03 Scarecrow wrote:On June 25 2013 19:00 trifecta wrote:
fanta's macro was awful. floating resources, idle scvs, supply blocked, etc Would you be happier if he had flawless macro but lost from donating an army? Bomber?
Bomber only donates when he wants to. (see: him vs goswswswswswser on newkirk)
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On June 25 2013 19:03 PVJ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 18:55 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On June 25 2013 18:54 Wintex wrote:On June 25 2013 18:53 goody153 wrote:
owww ... life lost .. damn .. no shame life that was fantasy possibly the greatest terran BW of all time NaDa. BoxeR, NaDa, oov, FlaSh. Midas.
lol im sorry people i forgot to put "2nd" in the"greatest BW terran player of all time" lol .. of course no can argue that flash is the best of all time
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On June 25 2013 19:07 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 19:06 HonorZ wrote:
The butthurt balance whine is hurting my eyes ! I miss proleague LR threads when I see all that. Aren't the Proleague threads usually just complaining about SNM?
They used to be, it stopped.
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On June 25 2013 19:08 Mattumsfox wrote:
I remember when I first came to Teamliquid and heard that they just ban all the people crying about balance. What ever happened to this? I see so much crying in every thread now it is almost as bad as the sc2 general forums.
use the report button. Also most of this is benign enough.
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On June 25 2013 19:08 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 19:07 Daralii wrote:On June 25 2013 19:06 HonorZ wrote:
The butthurt balance whine is hurting my eyes ! I miss proleague LR threads when I see all that. Aren't the Proleague threads usually just complaining about SNM? It's that, and talking about Bisu.
Handsome fellow too, though Flash is better and Nada is prettier.
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