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Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
June 25 2013 10:11 GMT
#721
On June 25 2013 19:11 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 19:10 Lunareste wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:08 Heartland wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:07 Daralii wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:06 HonorZ wrote:
The butthurt balance whine is hurting my eyes ! I miss proleague LR threads when I see all that.

Aren't the Proleague threads usually just complaining about SNM?


It's that, and talking about Bisu.


Listen, I don't care what you think about Bisu

but you will never stop me from talking/worshipping him in TL threads.

Bisu is my one true love.


I like Bisu : P


And this is why we are now friends<3
KT FlaSh FOREVER
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 25 2013 10:11 GMT
#722
On June 25 2013 19:08 Mattumsfox wrote:
I remember when I first came to Teamliquid and heard that they just ban all the people crying about balance. What ever happened to this? I see so much crying in every thread now it is almost as bad as the sc2 general forums.

Sorry about that. I just feel some things are a little odd some times. In addition, if you want a real storm of shit, you should check threads from august-november last year. The zerg hate is actually pretty funny to read.
The Bomber boy
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
June 25 2013 10:11 GMT
#723
On June 25 2013 19:07 Assirra wrote:
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On June 25 2013 19:04 Type|NarutO wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:03 sitromit wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:01 Type|NarutO wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:59 sitromit wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:54 Swisslink wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:52 Wintex wrote:
Life is WAAAAY too overaggressive.......


Well, is there a Zerg who wins against Terran lategame?
I haven't seen one for quite a while. Which is the reason why everyone plays as aggressive as they do.

It's Roach/Bane bust or lose.

TvZ is approaching 70% this season for Terran. In PL it's over 60% the last 3 rounds, and this with all the early busts.


Lots of wins from Innovation and Flash though.

So we're back to the "the top Terrans are just better players" argument like back in early WoL?


No. I'm saying if you cut out Innovation and Flash (and you can see their matches, I would argue they have indeed faced off against 'inferior' players in their ZvT matches. vs SoulKey for example its 1-1) and when you take away those games, you won't be at nearly 60% ..

But that is scewing stats in your favor. you can't just take say -"Well this does not count because x or y"


Ofcourse I can say that. Flash and INnoVation are outstanding TvZ players. SoulKey outstanding ZvT. I cannot name more ZvT players that are outstanding right now, so yes, actually I'm not screwing stats with this statement.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 25 2013 10:11 GMT
#724
On June 25 2013 19:09 HolyArrow wrote:
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On June 25 2013 19:04 Zealously wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:00 HolyArrow wrote:
In light of Life losing to Sjow, that was pretty unsurprising. Wouldn't be unexpected for Life to go out in last place this group. Not that Sjow is bad, but you probably shouldn't be dropping Bo3s to foreigners if you want to be considered a top-level player.


Come on, all players have off days. You don't suddenly stop being a top player because you haven't played well over the last 2-3 weeks.


Well, an off-day is an off-day. A month of underwhelming play is a slump, and to me when someone's slumping it means that they're not currently a top-level player. Life hasn't really impressed me much since he beat Flash at MLG a while ago. He got eliminated in the Ro16 of Code S, dropped 2 Bo3s to foreigners at DH Summer, and also got pretty convincingly beaten by Ryung recently in the GSTL. He hasn't been terrible, but he certainly hasn't been performing up to his reputation.


An "off month" is like 3 or 4 bad series. Also losing in the Ro16 vs Parting and Innovation isn't exactly a slump.
dreaming of a sunny day
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
June 25 2013 10:11 GMT
#725
On June 25 2013 19:07 ShroudeD wrote:
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On June 25 2013 19:05 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:04 trifecta wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:03 PVJ wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:55 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:54 Wintex wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:53 goody153 wrote:
owww ... life lost .. damn .. no shame life that was fantasy possibly the greatest terran BW of all time

NaDa.


BoxeR, NaDa, oov, FlaSh.



Midas.


DDR Terran


I just hope you know what DDR means in this context.

Dance Dance Revolution


ddal ddal ri
Never!
poisui
Profile Joined July 2011
1088 Posts
June 25 2013 10:11 GMT
#726
On June 25 2013 18:58 YourHarry wrote:
Esf player A loses to kespa player B. Find the weakest player (foreigner preferred) C that had beat A. Dismiss player B to be as bad as C.

LAWL.
Disarmed
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria721 Posts
June 25 2013 10:11 GMT
#727
guys i dont wanna be that guy

but is it lagging for anyone else? even on 480...

im starting to think it might be me, idra lagged too yesterday...
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 25 2013 10:12 GMT
#728
I havent been paying attention the last few pages did I miss anything good?
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packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 25 2013 10:12 GMT
#729
On June 25 2013 19:11 Schelim wrote:
it's so funny how whenever there's a technical issue Tasteless points out it's not a GOM tournament every 2 minutes :O


I think hes just trying to explain why they don't have information on what is going wrong.
dreaming of a sunny day
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
June 25 2013 10:12 GMT
#730
On June 25 2013 19:10 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 19:09 Heartland wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:07 Assirra wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:04 Type|NarutO wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:03 sitromit wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:01 Type|NarutO wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:59 sitromit wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:54 Swisslink wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:52 Wintex wrote:
Life is WAAAAY too overaggressive.......


Well, is there a Zerg who wins against Terran lategame?
I haven't seen one for quite a while. Which is the reason why everyone plays as aggressive as they do.

It's Roach/Bane bust or lose.

TvZ is approaching 70% this season for Terran. In PL it's over 60% the last 3 rounds, and this with all the early busts.


Lots of wins from Innovation and Flash though.

So we're back to the "the top Terrans are just better players" argument like back in early WoL?


No. I'm saying if you cut out Innovation and Flash (and you can see their matches, I would argue they have indeed faced off against 'inferior' players in their ZvT matches. vs SoulKey for example its 1-1) and when you take away those games, you won't be at nearly 60% ..

But that is scewing stats in your favor. you can't just take say -"Well this does not count because x or y"


It can be, but statistics should never be taken at face value. Breaking them down and attempting to sort them into sub-categories or other categories will give you new and interesting information. Like, for example, if two players are inflating win levels for a specific race, if a given map is changing something or if B-teamers are facing some specific A-teamers more than others.


Also these player pools are so small AND they aren't random. A lot of statisticians would be unhappy trying to infer anything from this game.


Couldn't you use amount of games to form the basis for statistics rather than players? But yeah, you do need at least a 100 games or so to make any sort of meaningful statistic. I'm sure theBB could tell us more specifically how he generates stats. But when tournaments say that they have some stats based off of seven games or something it's just.. yeah. Not so good.
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
June 25 2013 10:12 GMT
#731
On June 25 2013 19:10 liberate71 wrote:
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On June 25 2013 19:09 negativedge wrote:
why the hell are there always so many technical problems for OSL? like, way more than any other tournament?


Yeah its ridiculous hey. I think every day so far has been a crash at least, if not more!

Imagine if the casters have the scripts pre-written and when something fails they just pull that thing out and do it.

So, when the production crew gives the command something goes off for a set amout of time.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
June 25 2013 10:12 GMT
#732
On June 25 2013 19:09 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 19:04 Zealously wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:00 HolyArrow wrote:
In light of Life losing to Sjow, that was pretty unsurprising. Wouldn't be unexpected for Life to go out in last place this group. Not that Sjow is bad, but you probably shouldn't be dropping Bo3s to foreigners if you want to be considered a top-level player.


Come on, all players have off days. You don't suddenly stop being a top player because you haven't played well over the last 2-3 weeks.


Well, an off-day is an off-day. A month of underwhelming play is a slump, and to me when someone's slumping it means that they're not currently a top-level player. Life hasn't really impressed me much since he beat Flash at MLG a while ago. He got eliminated in the Ro16 of Code S, dropped 2 Bo3s to foreigners at DH Summer, and also got pretty convincingly beaten by Ryung recently in the GSTL. He hasn't been terrible, but he certainly hasn't been performing up to his reputation.


yeah. Life's gameplay has been pretty bad lately.
I think last season his games were still good. But his ZvT style is really questionable right now and his ZvZ has never been overly strong. I guess his ZvP is still solid, but not topnotch either...
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
June 25 2013 10:12 GMT
#733
tasteless world war z didnt really earn much because of the cost and it was not the same with the book which what people came for .. aside from the casual viewers
this is a quote
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
June 25 2013 10:12 GMT
#734
On June 25 2013 19:11 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 19:04 liberate71 wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:03 dabom88 wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:59 Wintex wrote:
The widow mine burrow 1 sec thing is really bleh though. Drilling claws, right? I think that one activates them too quickly. 1,5 sec could maybe work. That way you could react to a zerg army without completely giving them the finger.

It's pretty equivalent to the Enduring Locust upgrade. Both are rather fair.


I think the Mine should pop up when 'triggered', then 1 sec later attack, to give people a chance to split-second-micro to try to mitigate damage.

At the moment its just .... SURPRISE MOTHER FUCKER


And I want to see a shredder upgrade that makes it so that two mines can interact to form radiation. Idea recycling is good for the environment.


Science Vessel Eraser bring it back
jimothyjim
Profile Joined August 2011
Great Britain836 Posts
June 25 2013 10:12 GMT
#735
This is quite the pause. Anyone have any estimates of what time this will finish? I wanted to get some work done between Korea and EU WCS
Go Hyvaa, Hyun, Maru, DRG, NaNiwa, MaNa, Genius, Dimaga, Scarlett, Soulkey, First! Elfi is God.
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
June 25 2013 10:12 GMT
#736
On June 25 2013 19:12 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I havent been paying attention the last few pages did I miss anything good?


We started talking about how amazing Bisu is.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
June 25 2013 10:13 GMT
#737
On June 25 2013 19:11 Schelim wrote:
it's so funny how whenever there's a technical issue Tasteless points out it's not a GOM tournament every 2 minutes :O

Yeah, feel pretty rude. GOM has had a lot of issues themselves. No need to make OGN make bad when GOM is not perfect either.
리노크 👑
Hellbat
Profile Joined June 2013
223 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 10:13:16
June 25 2013 10:13 GMT
#738
On June 25 2013 19:10 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 19:05 bo1b wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:03 Scarecrow wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:00 trifecta wrote:
fanta's macro was awful. floating resources, idle scvs, supply blocked, etc

Would you be happier if he had flawless macro but lost from donating an army?

He lost his armies several times when he pushed out lol. A lone baneling rolled into his army when he tried to push into lifes 4th.

So apparently both his macro and micro were awful? Why can't people just enjoy a good back and forth game without whining about a number at the top right?


Because their favorite race lost in the end.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 25 2013 10:13 GMT
#739
On June 25 2013 19:11 Disarmed wrote:
guys i dont wanna be that guy

but is it lagging for anyone else? even on 480...

im starting to think it might be me, idra lagged too yesterday...

Not lagging for me. I think it is best for you to use the GOM stream. The free HD stream.
http://www.gomtv.net/live/index.gom
I had a good night of sleep.
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 25 2013 10:13 GMT
#740
On June 25 2013 19:12 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I havent been paying attention the last few pages did I miss anything good?

balance whine and whine about balance whine.
dreaming of a sunny day
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