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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
June 22 2013 17:12 GMT
#1341
please tod do not throw
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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agile_legs
Profile Joined January 2011
Philippines348 Posts
June 22 2013 17:12 GMT
#1342
On June 23 2013 01:52 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 01:49 agile_legs wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:33 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Maybe the TL8 curse ends this HSC?


may i know what the TL8 curse is? been out of sc2 for quite a while now

TLO loses every time in the ro8 in tournaments and wins in the consolation bracket if there is one.(winning in consolation brackets more recently though}


thanks man
Winter is Coming
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 17:13:29
June 22 2013 17:13 GMT
#1343
On June 23 2013 02:10 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 02:06 stuchiu wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:05 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:38 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
TLO isn't the best yet, Lucifron and Stephano still better, Snute on a similar level. But he needs to go from consistent RO8 to actually getting to finals to be considered best. Consistency is overrated .


Lucifron is awesome, but you can't say that Lucifron is better, TLOs beaten him at least in 3 different series when they've run into each other, and even though your criteria for being considered best is getting to finals, Lucifron has not made the finals of a premier tournament. And although Stephano has also won against TLO in the past, TLO had the upper hand in their most recent encounter, winning against him in their group at WCS Finals. Stephano also hasn't even gotten close to the finals of a premier tournament lately unless you count WCS EU, but the advantage over TLO there was the reuslt of an unlucky bracket, since TLO got paired with the eventual champion in the ro8 (who Stephano also lost to). TLO could have beaten anyone else in that top 8 to make it to the finals.


You're counting WCS EU for TLO when it comes to beating lucifron, but discounting WCS EU when talking about Stephano getting to the finals.


I'm referring to WCSU EU for lucifron because TLO and lucifron played each other head to head in that tournament. TLO and Stephano did not. So the only comparison for them at WCS EU would be their placements, but like I explained, if their bracket positions had been switched, TLO could have easily been in finals while Stephano would have been the one knocked out in the ro8, an unfortunate outcome of unlucky bracket placement (especially given the fact that they both won 1st in their groups).


Don't get into what-if scenarios. You don't want to go there
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 17:14:11
June 22 2013 17:13 GMT
#1344
what the
edit:
what an engagement :O
Moderatorlickypiddy
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
June 22 2013 17:14 GMT
#1345
ToD with an almost epic throw .......
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
June 22 2013 17:14 GMT
#1346
Tod is really fun to watch haha.
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
June 22 2013 17:14 GMT
#1347
holy mother of throws tod :o
Romanes eunt domus
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
June 22 2013 17:14 GMT
#1348
dear me TOD !!
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
June 22 2013 17:15 GMT
#1349
tod still wins imo
Moderatorlickypiddy
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
June 22 2013 17:15 GMT
#1350
On June 23 2013 02:15 NovemberstOrm wrote:
tod still wins imo


Well yeh he's still a bit ahead but if he keeps trying this hard to throw the game he wont be anymore pretty soon :/
Romanes eunt domus
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
June 22 2013 17:16 GMT
#1351
tod is going for an other throw
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
2stra
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands928 Posts
June 22 2013 17:17 GMT
#1352
On June 23 2013 02:16 Makro wrote:
tod is going for an other throw


I think Happy can't catch tho
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 22 2013 17:17 GMT
#1353
On June 23 2013 02:10 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 02:06 stuchiu wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:05 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:38 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
TLO isn't the best yet, Lucifron and Stephano still better, Snute on a similar level. But he needs to go from consistent RO8 to actually getting to finals to be considered best. Consistency is overrated .


Lucifron is awesome, but you can't say that Lucifron is better, TLOs beaten him at least in 3 different series when they've run into each other, and even though your criteria for being considered best is getting to finals, Lucifron has not made the finals of a premier tournament. And although Stephano has also won against TLO in the past, TLO had the upper hand in their most recent encounter, winning against him in their group at WCS Finals. Stephano also hasn't even gotten close to the finals of a premier tournament lately unless you count WCS EU, but the advantage over TLO there was the reuslt of an unlucky bracket, since TLO got paired with the eventual champion in the ro8 (who Stephano also lost to). TLO could have beaten anyone else in that top 8 to make it to the finals.


You're counting WCS EU for TLO when it comes to beating lucifron, but discounting WCS EU when talking about Stephano getting to the finals.


I'm referring to WCSU EU for lucifron because TLO and lucifron played each other head to head in that tournament. TLO and Stephano did not. So the only comparison for them at WCS EU would be their placements, but like I explained, if their bracket positions had been switched, TLO could have easily been in finals while Stephano would have been the one knocked out in the ro8, an unfortunate outcome of unlucky bracket placement (especially given the fact that they both won 1st in their groups).


When talking about what player is better than the other, head-to-head probably isn't the best way to go about it. TLO beat Lucifron a few times, but lost 0-3 to MVP. Conversely Lucifron beat MVP 2-0 when they met. And you can't say, oh if he got a bit luckier in brackets he could have gone farther, you can literally say the same thing about anyone. If Lucifron didn't get hit by a coin, he could have won Dreamhack.
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juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
June 22 2013 17:18 GMT
#1354
Remember, if you want to watch both streams at once:

http://multitwitch.tv/taketv/taketvbstream
This Week in SC2Find out what happened 'This Week in Starcraft 2': http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278126
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 17:19:24
June 22 2013 17:19 GMT
#1355
this game is just nuts
On June 23 2013 02:18 juicyjames wrote:
Remember, if you want to watch both streams at once:

http://multitwitch.tv/taketv/taketvbstream

thanks!
Moderatorlickypiddy
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
June 22 2013 17:19 GMT
#1356
well may god have mercy
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
June 22 2013 17:20 GMT
#1357
nightend spends so much into defense vs hellbat drops, they drop in the mineral line anyways while rest of army harakiris into photon overcharge, afterwards terran is ahead anyways cuz its no commitment at all
ZMTYOU
Profile Joined May 2013
88 Posts
June 22 2013 17:20 GMT
#1358
gogo happy you can win!!
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
June 22 2013 17:20 GMT
#1359
"So many wikings" haha Kas :D
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
June 22 2013 17:20 GMT
#1360
"almost paid for itself" are you kidding me? These casters need to stop talking because it makes them look stupid. Short probe pull is not equivalent to 300/100, let alone the fact that fast medivacs delay expansion and tech upgrade
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