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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
June 22 2013 16:58 GMT
#1301
if tod loses he will be so mad, being at 1-2 two times in a row
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 16:59:43
June 22 2013 16:59 GMT
#1302
On June 23 2013 01:42 ratbert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 01:41 Faruko wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:38 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:35 Faruko wrote:
Take should go and try to bring Parting, Rain, Innovation, sOs, Flash or SoulKey to the HSC, MC and Seed arent the same anymore, the KR players of this HSC arent really top tier anymore


Its very hard to get Kespa players to go to foreigner events? All the players you listed are Kespa...

I know they are Kespa, and this is mostly impossible to be fair, it could give HSC that little push that it needs

one can just wish


the whole tournament being destroyed and noone taking a map off Innovation would give HSC a push? don't think so

SoulKey could and not just 1, but 4 in a row
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Juissi
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland209 Posts
June 22 2013 16:59 GMT
#1303
On June 23 2013 01:58 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 01:57 Bagration wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:56 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:54 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:47 Juissi wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:41 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:39 Nightwishone wrote:
TLO so good... I don't think there are better foreigners atm. (He didn't took the highest non-korean place at WCS world for nothing)

lol, he didn't even get past the first stage...and he didn't even win WCS Europe.


Lol, he was still the highest placing foreigner. No other foreigner won a WCS either. No other foreigner got past the group stage either. No other foreigner has been as consistently posting results like him.


Is this about recent results because Stephano is by far the highest earning foreigner when it comes to tournaments?


Of course it's about recent results. There's no denying that Stephano has been the best foreigner historically but TLO has been better than him recently imo.


Stephanos WCS EU final is better than any TLO result ever though....

As I said before consistency is overrated. RO8s consistently are nice, but you need finals and wins.


How is consistency overrated? I don't get it, enlighten me please.


Consistency isn't overrated, but getting 1st once is better than getting 8th 4 times

I disagree when you consider volatility, bracket luck, etc.


I'd still take that 1st place before those 8th places tho.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 22 2013 17:00 GMT
#1304
On June 23 2013 01:58 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 01:57 Bagration wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:56 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:54 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:47 Juissi wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:41 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:39 Nightwishone wrote:
TLO so good... I don't think there are better foreigners atm. (He didn't took the highest non-korean place at WCS world for nothing)

lol, he didn't even get past the first stage...and he didn't even win WCS Europe.


Lol, he was still the highest placing foreigner. No other foreigner won a WCS either. No other foreigner got past the group stage either. No other foreigner has been as consistently posting results like him.


Is this about recent results because Stephano is by far the highest earning foreigner when it comes to tournaments?


Of course it's about recent results. There's no denying that Stephano has been the best foreigner historically but TLO has been better than him recently imo.


Stephanos WCS EU final is better than any TLO result ever though....

As I said before consistency is overrated. RO8s consistently are nice, but you need finals and wins.


How is consistency overrated? I don't get it, enlighten me please.


Consistency isn't overrated, but getting 1st once is better than getting 8th 4 times

I disagree when you consider volatility, bracket luck, etc.


oGs Ensnare used to be one of the most consistent Code S players :p
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
June 22 2013 17:01 GMT
#1305
On June 23 2013 01:56 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 01:54 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:47 Juissi wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:41 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:39 Nightwishone wrote:
TLO so good... I don't think there are better foreigners atm. (He didn't took the highest non-korean place at WCS world for nothing)

lol, he didn't even get past the first stage...and he didn't even win WCS Europe.


Lol, he was still the highest placing foreigner. No other foreigner won a WCS either. No other foreigner got past the group stage either. No other foreigner has been as consistently posting results like him.


Is this about recent results because Stephano is by far the highest earning foreigner when it comes to tournaments?


Of course it's about recent results. There's no denying that Stephano has been the best foreigner historically but TLO has been better than him recently imo.


Stephanos WCS EU final is better than any TLO result ever though....

As I said before consistency is overrated. RO8s consistently are nice, but you need finals and wins.


How is consistency overrated? I don't get it, enlighten me please.


1 win trumps infinity RO8s.
Red and yellow are all I see
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 17:02:51
June 22 2013 17:02 GMT
#1306
On June 23 2013 02:01 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 01:56 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:54 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:47 Juissi wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:41 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:39 Nightwishone wrote:
TLO so good... I don't think there are better foreigners atm. (He didn't took the highest non-korean place at WCS world for nothing)

lol, he didn't even get past the first stage...and he didn't even win WCS Europe.


Lol, he was still the highest placing foreigner. No other foreigner won a WCS either. No other foreigner got past the group stage either. No other foreigner has been as consistently posting results like him.


Is this about recent results because Stephano is by far the highest earning foreigner when it comes to tournaments?


Of course it's about recent results. There's no denying that Stephano has been the best foreigner historically but TLO has been better than him recently imo.


Stephanos WCS EU final is better than any TLO result ever though....

As I said before consistency is overrated. RO8s consistently are nice, but you need finals and wins.


How is consistency overrated? I don't get it, enlighten me please.


1 win trumps infinity RO8s.

You fail to provide any reasoning and only your own biased opinion.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
June 22 2013 17:03 GMT
#1307
happy is a master when it comes to drop
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
TTOMZ
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom156 Posts
June 22 2013 17:04 GMT
#1308
Man these three are really working well together as a casting trio

I would have never guessed
9 pool you say?
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
June 22 2013 17:05 GMT
#1309
On June 23 2013 01:38 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
TLO isn't the best yet, Lucifron and Stephano still better, Snute on a similar level. But he needs to go from consistent RO8 to actually getting to finals to be considered best. Consistency is overrated .


Lucifron is awesome, but you can't say that Lucifron is better, TLOs beaten him at least in 3 different series when they've run into each other, and even though your criteria for being considered best is getting to finals, Lucifron has not made the finals of a premier tournament. And although Stephano has also won against TLO in the past, TLO had the upper hand in their most recent encounter, winning against him in their group at WCS Finals. Stephano also hasn't even gotten close to the finals of a premier tournament lately unless you count WCS EU, but the advantage over TLO there was the reuslt of an unlucky bracket, since TLO got paired with the eventual champion in the ro8 (who Stephano also lost to). TLO could have beaten anyone else in that top 8 to make it to the finals.
Dario Wünsch: I guess...Creator...met his maker *sunglasses*
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
June 22 2013 17:05 GMT
#1310
usually in tvps on this map terran stretches out the protoss so much when he tries to take a 3rd but bunny has like 1 control group all game long
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
June 22 2013 17:05 GMT
#1311
gogo ToD, you can do it!
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
June 22 2013 17:05 GMT
#1312
Bunny too indecisive. That might cost him.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 17:06:45
June 22 2013 17:05 GMT
#1313
LOL TOD
losing that forge would have been huge
Moderatorlickypiddy
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
June 22 2013 17:06 GMT
#1314
WTF ToD
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
June 22 2013 17:06 GMT
#1315
opening Dt is so good even if terran have turrets you unlock archon tech and can't be touched.
"In the name of Holy Terra I challenge, Take up arms, for the Emperor’s Justice falls on you!"
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
June 22 2013 17:06 GMT
#1316
tod you can't lose right now :/
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 22 2013 17:06 GMT
#1317
On June 23 2013 02:05 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 01:38 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
TLO isn't the best yet, Lucifron and Stephano still better, Snute on a similar level. But he needs to go from consistent RO8 to actually getting to finals to be considered best. Consistency is overrated .


Lucifron is awesome, but you can't say that Lucifron is better, TLOs beaten him at least in 3 different series when they've run into each other, and even though your criteria for being considered best is getting to finals, Lucifron has not made the finals of a premier tournament. And although Stephano has also won against TLO in the past, TLO had the upper hand in their most recent encounter, winning against him in their group at WCS Finals. Stephano also hasn't even gotten close to the finals of a premier tournament lately unless you count WCS EU, but the advantage over TLO there was the reuslt of an unlucky bracket, since TLO got paired with the eventual champion in the ro8 (who Stephano also lost to). TLO could have beaten anyone else in that top 8 to make it to the finals.


You're counting WCS EU for TLO when it comes to beating lucifron, but discounting WCS EU when talking about Stephano getting to the finals.
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TTOMZ
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom156 Posts
June 22 2013 17:06 GMT
#1318
Full le Tod
9 pool you say?
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
June 22 2013 17:07 GMT
#1319
crazy game
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
June 22 2013 17:07 GMT
#1320
WTF TOD
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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