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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
June 22 2013 17:07 GMT
#1321
happys army is stuck
Moderatorlickypiddy
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
June 22 2013 17:07 GMT
#1322
On June 23 2013 02:02 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 02:01 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:56 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:54 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:47 Juissi wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:41 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:39 Nightwishone wrote:
TLO so good... I don't think there are better foreigners atm. (He didn't took the highest non-korean place at WCS world for nothing)

lol, he didn't even get past the first stage...and he didn't even win WCS Europe.


Lol, he was still the highest placing foreigner. No other foreigner won a WCS either. No other foreigner got past the group stage either. No other foreigner has been as consistently posting results like him.


Is this about recent results because Stephano is by far the highest earning foreigner when it comes to tournaments?


Of course it's about recent results. There's no denying that Stephano has been the best foreigner historically but TLO has been better than him recently imo.


Stephanos WCS EU final is better than any TLO result ever though....

As I said before consistency is overrated. RO8s consistently are nice, but you need finals and wins.


How is consistency overrated? I don't get it, enlighten me please.


1 win trumps infinity RO8s.

You fail to provide any reasoning and only your own biased opinion.


Because like in normal sport, in esports, it is the winning that matters. Winning tournaments is why these guys play. Winning is also what matters when assessing a players legacy.

In terms of judging who is the best RIGHT now, recent consistency may be a pretty good metric to consider that's true but not the most important.
Red and yellow are all I see
Arctyrus
Profile Joined June 2012
Denmark77 Posts
June 22 2013 17:08 GMT
#1323
Whos casting the Bunny vs. Nightend game?
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
June 22 2013 17:08 GMT
#1324
tod will you stay forever on two bases ?
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
eurTsItniH
Profile Joined January 2012
887 Posts
June 22 2013 17:09 GMT
#1325
On June 23 2013 02:08 Arctyrus wrote:
Whos casting the Bunny vs. Nightend game?


BlinG, Babyknight and Daishy.
ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
June 22 2013 17:09 GMT
#1326
happy is such a superior player
"In the name of Holy Terra I challenge, Take up arms, for the Emperor’s Justice falls on you!"
TTOMZ
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom156 Posts
June 22 2013 17:09 GMT
#1327
On June 23 2013 02:08 Arctyrus wrote:
Whos casting the Bunny vs. Nightend game?


Bling, Babyknight, Dayshi
9 pool you say?
emraaa
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany505 Posts
June 22 2013 17:09 GMT
#1328
On June 23 2013 02:08 Arctyrus wrote:
Whos casting the Bunny vs. Nightend game?

bling, babyknight and dayshi
Sure as the dust that floats high and true, when movin through kashmir
OOAK
Profile Joined October 2010
Israel53 Posts
June 22 2013 17:09 GMT
#1329
On June 23 2013 02:08 Arctyrus wrote:
Whos casting the Bunny vs. Nightend game?


bling, babyKnight and dyishi.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
June 22 2013 17:09 GMT
#1330
c'mon tod!
Moderatorlickypiddy
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1776 Posts
June 22 2013 17:09 GMT
#1331
Bunny threw that.
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
June 22 2013 17:09 GMT
#1332
Come on Tod
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
June 22 2013 17:09 GMT
#1333
LOL
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
June 22 2013 17:10 GMT
#1334
On June 23 2013 02:05 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
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On June 23 2013 01:38 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
TLO isn't the best yet, Lucifron and Stephano still better, Snute on a similar level. But he needs to go from consistent RO8 to actually getting to finals to be considered best. Consistency is overrated .


Lucifron is awesome, but you can't say that Lucifron is better, TLOs beaten him at least in 3 different series when they've run into each other, and even though your criteria for being considered best is getting to finals, Lucifron has not made the finals of a premier tournament. And although Stephano has also won against TLO in the past, TLO had the upper hand in their most recent encounter, winning against him in their group at WCS Finals. Stephano also hasn't even gotten close to the finals of a premier tournament lately unless you count WCS EU, but the advantage over TLO there was the reuslt of an unlucky bracket, since TLO got paired with the eventual champion in the ro8 (who Stephano also lost to). TLO could have beaten anyone else in that top 8 to make it to the finals.


So you dismiss one result based on a bracket but don't do the same thing the other way around. Stephano lost in recent tournaments due to an unlucky bracket, running into top Koreans in ZvZ....
Red and yellow are all I see
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
June 22 2013 17:10 GMT
#1335
On June 23 2013 02:06 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 02:05 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:38 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
TLO isn't the best yet, Lucifron and Stephano still better, Snute on a similar level. But he needs to go from consistent RO8 to actually getting to finals to be considered best. Consistency is overrated .


Lucifron is awesome, but you can't say that Lucifron is better, TLOs beaten him at least in 3 different series when they've run into each other, and even though your criteria for being considered best is getting to finals, Lucifron has not made the finals of a premier tournament. And although Stephano has also won against TLO in the past, TLO had the upper hand in their most recent encounter, winning against him in their group at WCS Finals. Stephano also hasn't even gotten close to the finals of a premier tournament lately unless you count WCS EU, but the advantage over TLO there was the reuslt of an unlucky bracket, since TLO got paired with the eventual champion in the ro8 (who Stephano also lost to). TLO could have beaten anyone else in that top 8 to make it to the finals.


You're counting WCS EU for TLO when it comes to beating lucifron, but discounting WCS EU when talking about Stephano getting to the finals.


I'm referring to WCSU EU for lucifron because TLO and lucifron played each other head to head in that tournament. TLO and Stephano did not. So the only comparison for them at WCS EU would be their placements, but like I explained, if their bracket positions had been switched, TLO could have easily been in finals while Stephano would have been the one knocked out in the ro8, an unfortunate outcome of unlucky bracket placement (especially given the fact that they both won 1st in their groups).
Dario Wünsch: I guess...Creator...met his maker *sunglasses*
Zyzz12
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany135 Posts
June 22 2013 17:10 GMT
#1336
I always understand them refering to "she" instead of "he". Are my ears that bad today? *g*
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
June 22 2013 17:10 GMT
#1337
Bunny had tons of timings. He played like s.it.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
June 22 2013 17:11 GMT
#1338
I actually would love to see a rematch b/w Nightend and MC, Nightend threw it hard in their last game.
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
June 22 2013 17:11 GMT
#1339
On June 23 2013 02:10 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 02:05 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:38 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
TLO isn't the best yet, Lucifron and Stephano still better, Snute on a similar level. But he needs to go from consistent RO8 to actually getting to finals to be considered best. Consistency is overrated .


Lucifron is awesome, but you can't say that Lucifron is better, TLOs beaten him at least in 3 different series when they've run into each other, and even though your criteria for being considered best is getting to finals, Lucifron has not made the finals of a premier tournament. And although Stephano has also won against TLO in the past, TLO had the upper hand in their most recent encounter, winning against him in their group at WCS Finals. Stephano also hasn't even gotten close to the finals of a premier tournament lately unless you count WCS EU, but the advantage over TLO there was the reuslt of an unlucky bracket, since TLO got paired with the eventual champion in the ro8 (who Stephano also lost to). TLO could have beaten anyone else in that top 8 to make it to the finals.


So you dismiss one result based on a bracket but don't do the same thing the other way around. Stephano lost in recent tournaments due to an unlucky bracket, running into top Koreans in ZvZ....


Except that a weak matchup is a categorical weakness as a player, whereas running into the champion is not a unique weakness of either player when both players lose to said championship player.
Dario Wünsch: I guess...Creator...met his maker *sunglasses*
jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
June 22 2013 17:11 GMT
#1340
after Dreamhack and now HSC... I've become a massive NightEnd fan. dude is hilarious. Him and ToD are my fav Protoss
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