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On June 17 2013 22:32 ETisME wrote: People think lucifon can beat jd? I guess they haven't watches enough Pl haha hmm tbh I think it's gonna be close and I can see Lucifron edging out JD but it could go the other way. JD isn't his BW self in SCII yet so anything can happen.
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May the SC2 Gods bring all 3 races to the semis!
...and prevent too many ZvZ's. Especially in the final.
Amen.
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On June 17 2013 22:35 slowbacontron wrote: Yo TheBB, do you have any information on what format the semis and finals will be? Historically they've been Bo3-->Bo5 -_-
Seeing the scheduled times, I'd think so too, only 1 hour scheduled for semis
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On June 17 2013 22:36 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 22:32 ETisME wrote: People think lucifon can beat jd? I guess they haven't watches enough Pl haha hmm tbh I think it's gonna be close and I can see Lucifron edging out JD but it could go the other way. JD isn't his BW self in SCII yet so anything can happen. i love how people always throw that in when talking about Flash and Jaedong. they will NEVER be their "BW self" guys, deal with it. just like Grubby, Moon, Sky, ToD, etc will unfortunately never be their war3 self in sc2.
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On June 17 2013 22:37 Ketch wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 22:35 slowbacontron wrote: Yo TheBB, do you have any information on what format the semis and finals will be? Historically they've been Bo3-->Bo5 -_- Seeing the scheduled times, I'd think so too, only 1 hour scheduled for semis A little unfortunate, but that's Life
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On June 17 2013 22:38 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 22:36 BigFan wrote:On June 17 2013 22:32 ETisME wrote: People think lucifon can beat jd? I guess they haven't watches enough Pl haha hmm tbh I think it's gonna be close and I can see Lucifron edging out JD but it could go the other way. JD isn't his BW self in SCII yet so anything can happen. i love how people always throw that in when talking about Flash and Jaedong. they will NEVER be their "BW self" guys, deal with it. just like Grubby, Moon, Sky, ToD, etc will unfortunately never be their war3 self in sc2. Well don't you just have a negative perspective!
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On June 17 2013 22:38 slowbacontron wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 22:37 Ketch wrote:On June 17 2013 22:35 slowbacontron wrote: Yo TheBB, do you have any information on what format the semis and finals will be? Historically they've been Bo3-->Bo5 -_- Seeing the scheduled times, I'd think so too, only 1 hour scheduled for semis A little unfortunate, but that's Life 
so you are saying that it is life's fault that it is only bo3 ? xD
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On June 17 2013 22:42 arkedos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 22:38 slowbacontron wrote:On June 17 2013 22:37 Ketch wrote:On June 17 2013 22:35 slowbacontron wrote: Yo TheBB, do you have any information on what format the semis and finals will be? Historically they've been Bo3-->Bo5 -_- Seeing the scheduled times, I'd think so too, only 1 hour scheduled for semis A little unfortunate, but that's Life  so you are saying that it is life's fault that it is only bo3 ? xD Yep, because the only possible way the tournament organizers could get someone other than Life to win would be to make the series as volatile as possible
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On June 17 2013 22:38 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 22:36 BigFan wrote:On June 17 2013 22:32 ETisME wrote: People think lucifon can beat jd? I guess they haven't watches enough Pl haha hmm tbh I think it's gonna be close and I can see Lucifron edging out JD but it could go the other way. JD isn't his BW self in SCII yet so anything can happen. i love how people always throw that in when talking about Flash and Jaedong. they will NEVER be their "BW self" guys, deal with it. just like Grubby, Moon, Sky, ToD, etc will unfortunately never be their war3 self in sc2. BW is much more related to SCII then WCIII is for obvious reasons. Point is, I think Jaedong will eventually get there with more practice and more experience.
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On June 17 2013 22:38 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 22:36 BigFan wrote:On June 17 2013 22:32 ETisME wrote: People think lucifon can beat jd? I guess they haven't watches enough Pl haha hmm tbh I think it's gonna be close and I can see Lucifron edging out JD but it could go the other way. JD isn't his BW self in SCII yet so anything can happen. i love how people always throw that in when talking about Flash and Jaedong. they will NEVER be their "BW self" guys, deal with it. just like Grubby, Moon, Sky, ToD, etc will unfortunately never be their war3 self in sc2. You cannot crush my dreams!!!! Moon will rule the Sc2verse when he gets that WCG gold in november!!!!
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On June 17 2013 22:25 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 22:15 Tanzklaue wrote:On June 17 2013 22:09 samurai80 wrote:On June 17 2013 22:06 BigFan wrote:On June 17 2013 22:06 Azurues wrote: the amount of zergs are too damn high zerg OP?  I kid, I kid lol. How many Zergs so far in RO8? There were 63 in the beginning, now 4 remaining. On the other hand 27 terrans, 3 remaining... Edit: I don't even want to mention protoss, too painful. TvP winrate is ridiculous... it was a little less than 50% zerg players at the start, and now it's 50%. do you really think zerg is UP based on those stats? if one race struggled this dreamhack, it's protoss, but that can be accounted to the relative low count of high level protoss players. You misunderstand my statements and in the end we agree on the same conclusion: if there is one race to complain it's obviously protoss. What I meant is that there is no surprise to see a bit more zergs considering the number of them in the beginining. Their percentage has actually almost not changed through the rounds, while T ratio increased more : begining: P= 29.7%, T= 21.1%, Z= 48.4% RO8: P= 12.5%, T= 37.5%, Z= 50%
Within a single tournament you can actually track the reason for each and every loss. Ro128 and Ro64 went pretty well for the toss and they entered Ro32 with 10 players (perfect!). Here they lost 6 of them instead of 5... 1. Bischu eliminated by Harstem & TLO 2. Elfi eliminated by Tefel 3. ViPro eliminated by Sjow 4. Mana eliminated by Dayshi 5. Pandatank thrown into 3 strong Koreans (Jaedong, Gumiho and Sting) 6. Starnan falling to Life and Tod.
One player overperforming here ruined your perfect 50% run and that player is... Sjow. Seriously, he's playing way better than expected.
Now for Ro16: 1. TLO beats Squirtle (upset) 2. Taeja beats ToD (I guess that was expected, ToD had a great run anyways) 3. Sjow beats Harstem (upset) (4). Stardust beats viOLet (upset the other way). Damn, that Sjow again. He single-handedly ruined the balance in both ro32 and ro16.
P T Z ------------------- WCS S1 KR 2 2 4 IEM 7 WC 4 2 2 MLG winter 3 4 1 WCS EU s1 3 4 1 DH STKHLM 2 1 5 WCS US S1 3 2 3 WCS S1 F 2 4 2 DH Summer 1 3 4 ------------------- total 20 22 22
Ro8 for all hots tournaments is now @ 64. Perfect split is 22-21-21. Actual is 22-22-20. So imba
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On June 17 2013 22:44 slowbacontron wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 22:42 arkedos wrote:On June 17 2013 22:38 slowbacontron wrote:On June 17 2013 22:37 Ketch wrote:On June 17 2013 22:35 slowbacontron wrote: Yo TheBB, do you have any information on what format the semis and finals will be? Historically they've been Bo3-->Bo5 -_- Seeing the scheduled times, I'd think so too, only 1 hour scheduled for semis A little unfortunate, but that's Life  so you are saying that it is life's fault that it is only bo3 ? xD Yep, because the only possible way the tournament organizers could get someone other than Life to win would be to make the series as volatile as possible 
Took a page out of OGN's book huh
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IT'S TRICKY!
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On June 17 2013 22:45 scypio wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 22:25 samurai80 wrote:On June 17 2013 22:15 Tanzklaue wrote:On June 17 2013 22:09 samurai80 wrote:On June 17 2013 22:06 BigFan wrote:On June 17 2013 22:06 Azurues wrote: the amount of zergs are too damn high zerg OP?  I kid, I kid lol. How many Zergs so far in RO8? There were 63 in the beginning, now 4 remaining. On the other hand 27 terrans, 3 remaining... Edit: I don't even want to mention protoss, too painful. TvP winrate is ridiculous... it was a little less than 50% zerg players at the start, and now it's 50%. do you really think zerg is UP based on those stats? if one race struggled this dreamhack, it's protoss, but that can be accounted to the relative low count of high level protoss players. You misunderstand my statements and in the end we agree on the same conclusion: if there is one race to complain it's obviously protoss. What I meant is that there is no surprise to see a bit more zergs considering the number of them in the beginining. Their percentage has actually almost not changed through the rounds, while T ratio increased more : begining: P= 29.7%, T= 21.1%, Z= 48.4% RO8: P= 12.5%, T= 37.5%, Z= 50% Within a single tournament you can actually track the reason for each and every loss. Ro128 and Ro64 went pretty well for the toss and they entered Ro32 with 10 players (perfect!). Here they lost 6 of them instead of 5... 1. Bischu eliminated by Harstem & TLO 2. Elfi eliminated by Tefel 3. ViPro eliminated by Sjow 4. Mana eliminated by Dayshi 5. Pandatank thrown into 3 strong Koreans (Jaedong, Gumiho and Sting) 6. Starnan falling to Life and Tod. One player overperforming here ruined your perfect 50% run and that player is... Sjow. Seriously, he's playing way better than expected. Now for Ro16: 1. TLO beats Squirtle (upset) 2. Taeja beats ToD (I guess that was expected, ToD had a great run anyways) 3. Sjow beats Harstem (upset) (4). Stardust beats viOLet (upset the other way). Damn, that Sjow again. He single-handedly ruined the balance in both ro32 and ro16. P T Z ------------------- WCS S1 KR 2 2 4 IEM 7 WC 4 2 2 MLG winter 3 4 1 WCS EU s1 3 4 1 DH STKHLM 2 1 5 WCS US S1 3 2 3 WCS S1 F 2 4 2 DH Summer 1 3 4 ------------------- total 20 22 22
Ro8 for all hots tournaments is now @ 64. Perfect split is 22-21-21. Actual is 22-22-20. So imba  I wouldn't call SjoW beating Harstem an "upset".
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Finally back from work. Sjow is dead meat but TLO and Lucifron might just have a chance :3
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DH dj really makes breaks enjoyable. Good stuff listening to this while playing some starcraft.
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